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@westreadwell96752 жыл бұрын
Coca-Cola has claimed more than one of my subs. Sorry to hear you had some bad luck on this one. Raffle off the sub as a rebuild. I’d be in on that.
@ParkerTheBasshead2 жыл бұрын
I just might man! Thank. Your X show up yet?
@westreadwell96752 жыл бұрын
@@ParkerTheBasshead no sir, but I am on the edge of my seat!
@AJOSUE2 жыл бұрын
I was just going to suggest that 🔥🔥🔥
@lordoftheturps93372 жыл бұрын
Mannnn I was just about to say the same thing!!!! Coca-cola is just a earth shake in Shittttt breakin song
@stevenwolfie2 жыл бұрын
I ripped the song off KZfaq put in in audacity and removed the distortion. Now I can play it full tilt no smell and way less heat to the coil
@DibeezyTheGifted2 жыл бұрын
Recone and you'll love it. Just an honest oops. 3500 watts clean power and you'll never have a problem. They're not Super Saiyan subs they're just high motor Force drivers but they still need to be used correctly. Great video and accountability. You didn't even blame sundown and it very much could have been quality control as well. A lot of people are going to chime in to your videos and your respect will grow because of how candid you are.
@madscientist68692 жыл бұрын
What was the oops just hooking it up ..
@ParkerTheBasshead2 жыл бұрын
Thanks man means a lot!!
@gamersfan2 жыл бұрын
That sounds about right from what I've read on the car audio pages a good 3-inch coil sub will take 3-4k rms clean once you start pushing them above that it will work, but it's like how long will it still keep pounding with that much power
@DibeezyTheGifted2 жыл бұрын
@@madscientist6869 possibly double RMS and clipping (regardless of what the clip indicator on the amplifier showed). Slight clip at double RMS or playing an octave below tuning. So many factors and variables about a subwoofer blowing. 90% of the time it's user error. Manufacture defects absolutely happen. But I build for a living and I've never blown a z-sub and I personally run zv5 drivers. Personally put 20,000 clamped to 4 18s. Never a blown sub.
@fxgamer-11yt2 жыл бұрын
@@DibeezyTheGifted thouse amps start flashing the clip light at .8 tdh soo there was no clipping just way tomuch power before brake in
@MannuhFestIt2 жыл бұрын
What I love about this video is how you take full accountability for your mistakes and are completely honest about what happened! You even reveal how even some of the top subs can face certain death under the wrong conditions. Much respect for this!
@richyoung40512 жыл бұрын
i one time didnt keep my secondary agm battery charged after gutting my system out and i killed the battery. went to finaly charge it one day and didnt hold a charge at all. 400 dollar mistake
@GrowhouseMN Жыл бұрын
Just recone it fr
@cin5cin1nat3i Жыл бұрын
@Trav Hamler exactly
@jackcassette1364 Жыл бұрын
He cooked the sundown but didn’t blame them? 🤔 hmmm starting to feel like a couple people are against dc audio.
@liftedcj7on44s2 жыл бұрын
This is why I run 4" coil drivers once I go past 3k RMS per sub. No matter what you do a 3" coil can only handle so much heat where the 4" coil has a lot more surface area.
@________GHOST________2 жыл бұрын
The problem with your idea here if you switch to 4 inch coil YOU WILL LOSE EXCURSION BIG TIME SO GOOD LUCK WITH THAT ONE LOLOL
@liftedcj7on44s2 жыл бұрын
@@________GHOST________ Excursion really doesn't mean much in a ported enclosure. Besides a properly designed driver with a 4" coil can have just as much Xmax/Xmech as a 3" coil driver.
@georgesrisomsak96502 жыл бұрын
@@________GHOST________ excursion isn't everything. Motor force, piston & suspension durability, and power handling, in the proper enclosure, is what nets good results. Subs hardly move at tuning frequency, thier ability to compress air with great force becomes the main factor when trying to get dumb loud. Large excursion drivers compromise peak motor strength for linearity. It's a direct compromise.
@cfrazier84002 жыл бұрын
Guess you've never heard of a ddz.
@liftedcj7on44s2 жыл бұрын
@@cfrazier8400 guess your wrong. You are talking about a neo motor that has a ton more cooling than a normal ferrite vented pole. Hint, never assume someone doesn't know what they are talking about.
@goldeneagle75592 жыл бұрын
Likely the fact that the coil heated up too rapidly and expanded being that flat wire coils have to go through a heating/ cooling process during break in. If it's not done or not done properly the flat wires (being so close to each other) won't let the coils glue offgass properly and will trap gasses between the layers causing the wire layers to bulge outward or inwards. Round wire coils don't do this as often as they have more gap between the wires allowing for gasses to escape a bit easier.. Some companies perform the off gassing heating/ cooling process in steps at the factory to the coils themselves before assembly of the whole sub, I'm not sure if Sundown does this to their subs to prevent coil failure but I know a few companies that do. Not a Sundown fan myself but still a bummer to see subs go bad
@berto371rr2 жыл бұрын
Might also have to do with the enclosure was not made for this sub. He always uses same box and puts different subs in it. Not really really showing a subs potential in a box not built to spec and tuned to the fs of the sub
@patricedavid1 Жыл бұрын
We're not going to lie to each other, he always took the same shitty box to do his tests while doing his showoff and the only thing he showed us today is the OVER X-MAXX that his sound box will force his subwoofer to do...very brilliant
@avhuffTeamOtis Жыл бұрын
This is interesting, my zv6 is still working just fine but stinks pretty bad. I have pics of the coil and she definitely got hot. Had no idea about this flat coil break in shit.
@dragon76er2 жыл бұрын
As Big D would say, "You Big Dummie!." 🤣🤣🤣
@OFFICERPORNSAK11 ай бұрын
that fred sanford
@Bugg882 жыл бұрын
My zv5s never did that. I had an 8k on each fresh out of the box. Sounds like defective sub, there was no clipping present
@Rezbionic Жыл бұрын
How long can you play on max volume? Does it overheat with 8k each
@60wayland20102 жыл бұрын
Parker, I had talked to the Audio apex guys at one of the shows and they told me that they could arrange an appointment for me to bring my subs in to their shop in Nc where they would recone it while I hung around out in town. They said that would cost (approx. $100 a piece) I know you don't live to far off from there so it could be an option. It would make an awesome video to if they let you film some. Something to think about.
@rodolfosotelo59292 жыл бұрын
I was gonna comment to hit up Audio Apex they will get him squared away
@33bigggman2 жыл бұрын
That's cheap
@60wayland20102 жыл бұрын
@@33bigggman That was labor the recones are normal price on top of that.
@kramnull89622 жыл бұрын
@@60wayland2010 $900 sub in the trash can vs. $500 for a rework. If you are going to play with a big dog, sometimes you have to feed it....
@thomashood85492 жыл бұрын
It would be cool if you could do a review on a 12" or a 15" psi platform 5.
@kcmullins61792 жыл бұрын
Those are bad ass heavy heavy heavy woofers
@zanechristiansen2 жыл бұрын
yes get this some attention im looking into psi subs but don't see a whole lot of in depth reviews. any video of them does bang hard, but I just wanna see this style of review lol
@mj14sk8er2 жыл бұрын
love my platform 5💪
@tbzombie17252 жыл бұрын
Man i bought a platform 1 15 and a star power 1500 amp and holy shit it blows the doors off my 08 avenger
@tammyforbes21012 жыл бұрын
Those are comp subs who runs 4” coils and 10k daily? I would love to but who has the money to do it shit would cost $10k easy unless you do a bunch of cheap Brazilian crap!! A pair of those need a Korean 12k-20k to get the best out of them! If all you got is a normal 1500 watt amp forget it you want even tickle them!
@JoseMartinez-qp5rf2 жыл бұрын
I remember when I made that mistake with my Zv5 I was so sad. Then i ended up buying a nightshade v.4 lol easier to carry around as well :)
@HifiVega2 жыл бұрын
😬😬😬 She gone 🔥💨💨
@BassFace17762 жыл бұрын
If I can run 2.5x power on some Alpine bassline $50 12s for 8 months. I think the sundown should have lasted a lot longer.
@charliefrancis64382 жыл бұрын
That black glue some manufacturers use is really good for holding together at high power , no sub single sub is going to handle an 8k amp all day long , 8000 watts is a lot of heat !!!
@busa_joe11592 жыл бұрын
You will never see 8k especially on music maybe for a second but the rise will be all over the place
@drutang2 жыл бұрын
$900??!!!!! not a good look for sundown!!
@schons77iceman2 жыл бұрын
You should do a review on the deaf bonce 4515... I have a brand new one sitting in a box that I would let you review and send it back to me..
@jtfordracing19752 жыл бұрын
I'd enjoy a recone video... I reconed my X12's after watching a couple you tube videos and it was a surprisingly easy job with just some printer paper and proper glues.
@silenthaiku50922 жыл бұрын
We're here to help your channel to be the biggest car audio page!
@ParkerTheBasshead2 жыл бұрын
💪🏻💪🏻
@Bassotronics2 жыл бұрын
95 lbs is not easy to carry around but not easy on the daily driver either if you own two or more. Thank goodness for Neo magnets. Bummer about the sub. But made for an interesting vid! 👍🏻
@ChaosTherapy7192 жыл бұрын
Poorly wound/glued coil, wasn't your fault Parker that's a factory defect that was completely missed by Sundown. Otherwise they woulda sold it in the yard sale as a defective product.
@harveyacosta97702 жыл бұрын
Jp has Travis build his sundown subs he should have got it from audio apex
@catch22frubert2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. If the coil comes unwound like that after a week with no clipping, it was just a defective coil. Sundown needs to step up and take care of a good customer that spends good money with them, and even reps their products on KZfaq to a few hundred thousand people.
@ChaosTherapy7192 жыл бұрын
@@harveyacosta9770 agreed, plus Apex woulda done a sick color powder coat too and he coulda had the sub build with Nightshade v5 Spider and 8 layer coil too
@ChaosTherapy7192 жыл бұрын
@@catch22frubert I really question D4S in general though, this spring i bought a new in the box Sundown SFB 2000D from them that fried in 6 hours playing my Xv2 10
@nationalblake57432 жыл бұрын
Why does everybody think JP (the owner of D4S) own sundown. 🤣🤦♂️ Jacob Fuller owns sundown. Where he bought the sub has nothing to do with how his outcome would of been. Sundown builds this sub in house, then put to a test to make sure the sub has no weird noises. Then is boxed up and shipped out to disrupters such as D4S & audio apex. Audio apex only builds refurbished subs. But, you can get ahold of audio apex and they will hook you up for a recone for it, as they share the same warehouse as sundown. Since he put 8k watts on it, I highly doubt sundown will warranty it.
@urbansasquatch55372 жыл бұрын
The x and zv use the exact same surround, so one can not be taller than the other, also the x and zv are both assembled here in the US, also making your box bigger doesn't mean louder
@bradmeek2 жыл бұрын
This is why I swear by running in subs as you would an engine, give it time to get hot and cold a heap of times before going full send to allow the glue properly set on the VC plus loosening the soft parts
@catch22frubert2 жыл бұрын
He broke it in for like a week. He did it right. That coil was just a defective coil. It happens to the best of them. Every one in a thousand is gonna be defective for whatever reason. Sundown needs to take care of the man and send him a new sub. He spent $1000 on that thing and it lasted a week.
@scottbe12 жыл бұрын
You live in North Carolina close to Sundown themselves. I would go get it re-coned rather than wait and buy another. I think a lot of other people feel the same way. Love the videos and keep bassing on!!!
@mondo821112 жыл бұрын
With a 3inch coil i would put only 3-4K on that thing
@scottouimet28652 жыл бұрын
You should check out Resilient Sounds... I upgraded to RS team 18s over zv5 18s and I'm loving them. 5k rms rated... Easily they take 10k from everything I've seen about em.
@nandocastillo83662 жыл бұрын
My new zv6 came in the mail and it’s reading 1.3 on both coils . Did you have your sub in parallel when they read.5 and.7?
@bobbyhorton40342 жыл бұрын
Several things to consider for the reason it siezed up. 1. It's brand new and you went to slamming it full power with no break in time at all. 2. Ohm load lower than what you could have used for the demonstration. 3. Mass produced Chinese, once again proves itself again.
@TheZombieSlayer11552 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure sundown builds their subs in factory.. in america, and the ohm load doesnt really matter. Just the amount of power going thru it, probably too rough on a new sub
@4gclipseGT Жыл бұрын
i love how easy going and honest you are, especially with the mistake being made and admitting to it and not blaming anyone else. i got into your vids because i was trying to upgrade my 10 year old system. ive been running 2 alpine type Rs in a ported box on a hifonics 1700.1 for since and it still pounds lol. after watching a ton of youtube i just ordered a sundown 15 xv3 and jp23v2. cant wait. thanks for the vids
@kenneththompson98892 жыл бұрын
Need a 4 inch coil for an 8k! 🌋😭
@RomaVilla2 жыл бұрын
Avatar stu
@kenneththompson98892 жыл бұрын
@@RomaVilla Skar DNR 🎭
@snauspockets99242 жыл бұрын
I have an 8,000 watt amp and I'm just going to hook every sub that I buy up to it no matter what it's rated for and hope for the best...smh
@DjR3aper2 жыл бұрын
it's how men are made
@JasonKerlin2 жыл бұрын
It happened to two x series I got from them early this year, it is not your fault. I reconed them. It happened with the first in about 10 mins of playing the second after a few hours of playtime. The coil seperated and was not burnt in the least. on both of them.......
@salvatorehayes27532 жыл бұрын
8 Layer Coil Typically Expand And Contract More During Heat Cycles Since There Are More Layers Ontop Of Each Other. If It Expands Too Fast / Heats Up Too Fast It Has A Slight Chance Of Unwinding. I Think That May Have Been A Defect Becasue You Would Have Smelt It First. I've Been Basing On Some 8 Layer Coil Subs For Over A Year And They Start To Stink Every Time I'm Getting The Coil Temps Too High.
@catman13042 жыл бұрын
Hey bro! We all appreciate your dedication to this channel and most of all your honesty. Take it ez
@ParkerTheBasshead2 жыл бұрын
Thank man!!
@catman13042 жыл бұрын
@@ParkerTheBasshead Just stating facts bro. Have a great day.
@chrisfiske2 жыл бұрын
It’s easy to do trust me you can recone it I did my first one on a zv5 and it went right in perfect I used paper for the shims and it’s still going that’s been almost 2 years ago
@theinsaneunknown2 жыл бұрын
That Deaf Bonce is looking like a beast now after getting hammered on. I have a Zv5 15 @.5 on a Synergy 3.1(5k certified) for over a year now as a daily.
@blownvoicecoil1242 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure if the deaf bounce had the same power put in it, it would blow way faster
@richmedina27382 жыл бұрын
@@blownvoicecoil124 I highly doubt it.. I've seen a pair of 3515s on a 20k clamping over 22k and playing strong for months
@Matt-co6bc2 жыл бұрын
@@blownvoicecoil124 nah sundown just suck ass.. skar zvxs are wayy better
@subdynoman2 жыл бұрын
@@Matt-co6bc oh man your trying to get people triggered LOL
@michaelmosher79022 жыл бұрын
@@blownvoicecoil124 put money on it the deaf bonce db3512 will definitely perform far better as far as longevity goes vs the zv5. And no you can't compare the zv6 12 and the db3012 as I can almost buy 2 db3012 for the price of a zv6. Just the honest truth that that is not a 900 dollar sub price to performance wise. I had a zv5 15 on around 3k clamped that I didn't get 8 months out of it. The xv2 is a better sub than the zv5 performance and efficiency wise and that came from people who ran real world t\s specs after break in on every sub sundown had at the time. But they needed a little more power handling so they didn't go without sundown, they had 2 massive audio hippo 15s with custom cone and coil and were doing a 160 with 2 15s on under 3 20k in a huge folded horn paraflex enclosure from 28hz to like 70hz. They're good subs but sundown definitely charges far too much for the most reconed subs every year. When I started seeing post after post about their extremely overpriced salt series amps blowing up and the trash quality sfb amps that 1 out of 5 last more then a week I knew I would nev run sundown again. My soundqubed hdc3.1 15 is over 5 years old and still going in a friend's car and I abused it 10 times as bad in the 4 years I ran it. I learned sundown is just a name. I call them subdown because I constantly see people having to recone them. And please don't think I like skar, I wouldn't run anything from skar even if it was free. Complete junk company and you can get the skar evl to on alibaba for like 160 shipped as a sample sub same as the Orion hcca
@richwhite23022 жыл бұрын
I think sundown should step up and warranty it out. Would've never considered them till your videos... now not so sure. Would've liked to see what this could handle.
@michaelmosher79022 жыл бұрын
Much better subs out there for that price
@jgman68562 жыл бұрын
@@michaelmosher7902 what are some better subs for that price?
@arfathkhalid10992 жыл бұрын
@@jgman6856 Deaf Bounce is my favorite
@cin5cin1nat3i Жыл бұрын
@@jgman6856 no sub in that price range that’s winning championships. Or killing it in the lanes don’t let them tell you a lie
@user-wg7ym2un8q Жыл бұрын
@@cin5cin1nat3i so what 18 should i buy?
@last_king56102 жыл бұрын
🟢I'ld to LOVE to see you making a review on Pride ST12 subwoofer. Can you do it please?
@grimmurk2 жыл бұрын
Inductive reactance (impedance) is entirely different than resistance. Sometimes manufacturers will post DC resistance for convenience.
@bassjasinski2 жыл бұрын
Always wondered how the voice coil glue holds up to the extreme expansion/contraction of CCA wire.
@ederreyes3612 Жыл бұрын
When the glue warms up it becomes softer so in a way it works out
@chrisbordelon27822 жыл бұрын
It’s amazing how such a beast subwoofer can be such a wimp at the same time. It’s not as tough as everyone makes them out to be!!!
@whoopdeedo832 жыл бұрын
It took more than double rated..
@swagon76262 жыл бұрын
That enclosure was prob a few cubes too small. this sub alone has almost .6 cubes of displacement if im not mistaken.
@HashDogg062 жыл бұрын
My thoughts too, this is why most people will use them in very large enclosures so then you don't have to drive so much power into them to get them cranking plus the sound quality will be night & day difference.
@dead6last2 жыл бұрын
you cant hurt it from the box being that size it will actually help it take more power... but not that much 8k is too much
@HashDogg062 жыл бұрын
@@dead6last Correct, most people don't understand that. With a box to big you will eat up spiders & glue joins before a coil, box to small you get a bit to confident with the volume & start to kill the coil.
@matthewnicaud64982 жыл бұрын
The 8 layer coil doesn’t cool as well. A longer 4 layer coil would run cooler for sure.
@christopherparis68412 жыл бұрын
Lmao that's stupid to even breathe that B's cause ur theory means a 2 layer would be even better. Look up heat sink um that's what more layers are.
@LerRhann2 жыл бұрын
JP probably laughing his ass off. Everyone makes mistakes man but next time, wire it at 2 ohms. That would leave you at twice this sub's full power, more than enough but safer than 8kW.
@TowGoat2 жыл бұрын
Prolly not he is a buisness man Jp I's prolly with Travis trying figure out how or why that coil slid that easy I pray Parker reaches out to JP and let's him help him out
@dkpjap2 жыл бұрын
@@TowGoat JP has nothing to do with any of these subs being built. He only sells sundown..... he has nothing to do with sundown other than he sells their stuff.
@TowGoat2 жыл бұрын
@@dkpjap your incorrect the ZV6 buildhouse is JP peoples quote Travis and Apex are the zv6 build houses
@TowGoat2 жыл бұрын
@@dkpjap FYI the ZV6 at Down4sound is Travis build I'll link video of the walk thru with JP . kzfaq.info/get/bejne/f9Jpi6h_1b2UiYU.html
@b1782w2 жыл бұрын
Just a little side note to anyone Who doesn't know but but taking your Box for example that is tuned to 32 it can only safely play down to 24 hertz So when playing decaf Songs need to be careful on high power Because under that frequency the sub is not controlled anymore by the Box and The subwoofer suspension alone is controlling it and it and can cause over Excursion ( bottoming out or jumping the gap)
@knockout_wj88862 жыл бұрын
Bummer. Excited to see you test the big boy subs. Don't get me wrong, I like the budget subs also. I'm running DC Elite XL'S in my jeep and for now a JLW6V3 in my daily. But I'm thinking of getting something that slams a little harder for the daily (I have a JP23 amp just sitting around) I was kinda looking at the Sundown Xv3. Only cause Sundowns are on sale. Heck I might get some bigger subs for the jeep and put the Elite's in the daily. If I go that route I'll have to get some more lithium and a 20k or so also for the jeep. I have enough electrical in the daily for my 6k I'm already using in the jeep. Decisions, decisions lol. Also considering Deaf Bonce, but I really like DC. Tell you what though if I was Jacob I would send you a new Zv6. Love what you are doing, keep it up.
@763KillerB2 жыл бұрын
Road trip to sundown for a recone!!! I bet they know a guy....😂
@Bigislandguy9 ай бұрын
Here I am in the middle of the night thinking about subwoofers 🔊 😂 Was planning on doing 8-12 vxf15’s but I wanna play windy lows. And what sub has the most Xmax to get low? Sundown! Now these subs are quite a bit more expensive, like 2.5 times more for the Xv3 , or almost 4x more for the zv6. At this point, I might just have to wait until I figure out which way to go.
@ginovannelpawiroastro40762 жыл бұрын
D4 sound gonna give u another sub... no worry.. 🙈 wich i dont think .. seeing clip light @ 7:40.. 7:43.. and the box to small for that thick motor.... not enough cooling..
@robertmurphy88082 жыл бұрын
I wanna go with sundown but it seems like everybody and their mother has sundown.
@catch22frubert2 жыл бұрын
Sundown is a bit overrated and overpriced in my opinion. Especially the Salt amps. Very overpriced. You can definitely get equipment that is just as good for less money.
@MannuhFestIt2 жыл бұрын
@@catch22frubert like what?
@michaelmosher79022 жыл бұрын
@@MannuhFestIt deaf bonce, DC audio and many other companies that if they charge 900 bucks for a sub it'll last more than a year. The most reconed sub on my 3k plus friends list has been the zv5 series. I owned a zv5 and didn't get 8 months out of it on around 3k clamped. Taught me a great lesson though, sundown is just a name. I'm running a black brick heavy hitter budget sub right now and so far price to performance wise it blows my zv5 out the water. But my soundqubed hdc3.1 that's 5 years old and still going outperformed my zv5 just by lasting 4 years when I paid 50 bucks for it brand new because of all the ones getting reconed back then. Traded a kicker cvx for that soundqubed hdc3.1. If soundqubed ever gets stock again I'd get an hdx4.1 for sure
@robertmurphy88082 жыл бұрын
@@michaelmosher7902 I've been looking at black brick subs for a bit. The new bb3 just came out not to long ago. The brick house looks badass. I've been looking at dc audio as well.
@robertmurphy88082 жыл бұрын
@@catch22frubert I agree. If I was a millionaire I'd get the nightshade v6.
@dou8letap822 жыл бұрын
Torture test without break-in.. wouldn’t expect anything less
@catch22frubert2 жыл бұрын
Sundown needs to send you a new ZV6. Thats nonsense. Its $1000 sub. It should take that power if your Xv2 and Xv3 took it. I see it as thier error. You gotta at least try to get a recone for free or something here man. You are a good customer and you buy a lot of expensive subs from them. I bet JP would help you out. Especially since you rep them pretty hard on the internet. Use some of that KZfaq clout you built up and get them to replace it.
@HemiMichael2 жыл бұрын
Never had very good luck with sundown audio. DC is made so much better!! That's what I use in my truck!!
@madscientist68692 жыл бұрын
$900 piece of junk hope this thing has got a warranty
@sparco3172 жыл бұрын
Time for a new enclosure. Ones that is designed properly.
@dabeardsmen36212 жыл бұрын
I was waiting on someone to point this out.
@robfishingkingdavis56532 жыл бұрын
Parker you're a genius, bro you are the sub woofer destroyer if it cant hang you'll be the one that prove the truth of a sub Great Job
@kramnull89622 жыл бұрын
Parker, we didn't expect you to feed that thing sammiches its entire life... Good job man, you took a hit and it will still pay off in the end...
@jj14792 жыл бұрын
You need to try a Fi neo sub. Awesome sale at the moment. I just got 2 15” neo 4.7’s.
@RomaVilla2 жыл бұрын
Nice, I'm looking into the fi neo's aswell, how much of a difference is the neo 3 from the neo 4's . I'm looking at the 15 inch.
@cjon24s692 жыл бұрын
I have 2 neo 3.5 18s, they have ot of mechanical noise due to no backplate venting
@loganmilam40652 жыл бұрын
@@RomaVilla extra inch of coil
@RomaVilla2 жыл бұрын
@@loganmilam4065 thanks for letting me know, don't know alot about fi subs but I've heard they are worth the money. Do they sound good in ported enclosures or more for 4th and 6th orders?
@EcSsAwS2 жыл бұрын
Noooo thanks. I'll stick with my 2nd generation XFL 12. That weighs enough 😆 Been taking over 1200w for 2 years too
@benjonesss2 жыл бұрын
cant go wrong with XFLs
@xnightmare90x2 жыл бұрын
Take a shot everytime he says "massive" 😂
@Randy_G2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your honesty and not making excuses!
@DTW-bx2vy2 жыл бұрын
Does it even matter to hear made in America anymore? It has nothing to do with quality these days one single bit.
@MothManLives2 жыл бұрын
Go for the recone man. It's a great opportunity to put out a video on how to save a sub. Like, "hey if you guys have accidentally blown an expensive sub and want to recone it..." In the future you could put the recone vs the new.
@kevinhollingsworth58162 жыл бұрын
I would call Sundown. I won the Zv6-12 in the raffle at the show this year and I have a CAB-45 on it. I beat on it every day. Jacob Fuller will figure something out. They have the best warranty on there equipment. I would just call and let them know what happened or drop by there.
@bassjunkie20202 жыл бұрын
Recone it for like 200 dollars or little more. I reconed my Xs and they are better than when I got them brandnew 👍😁💯💨💨💨
@TheDJWaves2 жыл бұрын
what a shame, that speaker can take power, but what learnt from my nsv4, 1 week wasn't near enough time to break those spiders in, try two months... would of been under incredible forces
@vasquez37692 жыл бұрын
I want to see you test some DC Audio level 5 and Lvl 6's.
@BabyCharlotteschannel2 жыл бұрын
Yeah for sure! I'm supposed to be picking up a lightly used level 4 DC Audio 12" in a nice custom box for like $160'ish bucks. I don't know too much about this brand but it looks like it's a well built sub and the box looks great compared to anything prefab that's for sure! Figuring this should be a great start to the new system I'll be putting together in this first generation Grand Cherokee I just got! Hopefully this level 4 is decent, especially compared to the Audiopulse Axis quad 1 ohm voice coil 12 in sub I have been running for year's now, and it's been a beast that's taken hour plus commutes to and from work cranking the entire drive!
@vasquez37692 жыл бұрын
@@BabyCharlotteschannel the DC lvl 4 is the sub that I started with. It's a great sub! If you're a beginner, throw at least 1000 watts rms. They're rated about 1400 but can take about 2500
@BabyCharlotteschannel2 жыл бұрын
@@vasquez3769 thanks, yeah not a beginner, I'm a kid at heart but feel like an old man from my wild days of 100++ mph wheelies and all kinds of stunts on street bikes, well the injuries are from other's not paying attention, but I've been putting systems together and doing installs for over 30 years now, holy crap 50yrs old is just around the corner... But thanks, I figure for the price the custom box with what sounds like a decent sub will be a good start for this latest system I'm gonna put together! I forget what Big D got from this Orion xtr 2500, bit it puts out more than rated, and was running it at .8 ohms for the last year with my baby, an old Audiopulse Axis quad 1 ohm voice coil 12 in sub along with a TC Sounds 15" Tropo and it was really a hard hitting, great sounding system for every type of music I listened to. If I'm lucky enough to get the Audiopulse Axis 12" sub back from my buddy I sold the Xterra to with most of the system I'd definitely be building a quality custom box for, cause that was in a crappy prefab though the 15" Tropo is in a nice low tuned box that really sounded great. Thanks again for your input, much appreciated Brother?
@mrbasscow2 жыл бұрын
I’m going to stick with wolfram where you can get a 4000 watt rms sub for 700$
@catch22frubert2 жыл бұрын
Parker really needs to step up to 4 inch coil subs with the power he has available and a box with more port area to test huge subs like this. I do definitely understand that 4 inch coil subs are expensive though, and not everyone has multiple 8k amps and lithium to run their system. That King City Customs box is a nice box, but its meant for smaller subs like the XFL and subs in the 1000-1500 watt range with less excursion. When you move up to the Xv3 and ZV6 class of subs with crazy excursion, it starts to call for a different box with more port area and different specs. Parker needs more than just that one box so he can better match the kind of sub he's testing to the box he's using. I don't know if he still has that other 2.7 cube box with the aero port or not, but he should think about building a couple different boxes for testing these different subs with different box requirements. The one he has is a good mid range sub box, but boxes aren't a one size fits all thing as we all know.
@jacobguerne23882 жыл бұрын
I can tell you now those surrounds are 100% identical and very much the same... X series all the way to the teams all use the mega roll V2 it doesn't change from sub to sub..
@kickzalonekuz96802 жыл бұрын
I just love how far your videos have come bro great work
@omark24236 ай бұрын
Do you think if you would have had it inverted it would have held up better. I keep my q class inverted and they stay cool
@DeadPhish8124 ай бұрын
So you blow a DC Level 5 after putting it through hell and said it was junk and then you blow a sundown before you get to test it and not a single complaint. Im glad some accountability was taken on this one though.
@cin5cin1nat3iАй бұрын
Parker is a clown 😂
@girthquake96552 жыл бұрын
This makes me moist in the place where relatives are not supposed to touch.
@florenceflavien39702 жыл бұрын
taramps so strong
@zachhiggs23682 жыл бұрын
Got mine on a crescendo 4K, boxed tuned to 32.25 htz. I tested it at 40 hz 0db and getting no clipping playing it loud. Smelled the glue a little when I was breaking it in. But now it doesent smell at all and the spider has loosened up. Sounds great. Sundown only rated the sub at 2500 watts. I was told a 4K was plenty for it
@kswis2 жыл бұрын
No way a $900 sub should've blown, ft
@TowGoat2 жыл бұрын
Parker please reach out to JP Im. Big #TeamdOwn4sound I promise you JP is best in the industry for a reason he will handle this!!!!!! I personally will reach out to him now!! FYI in the future every a issue from a D4S sub etc reach out you will see JP is second to none in the industry!!
@Van1018s2 жыл бұрын
I’ve seen zv5 clamping 7000 a sub with no problem. I think you got a factory defect. I bought 12 DB 3512 R. One sub dropped a coil for no reason. Clamping about 4K a sub. Unclipped. And the sub had well over 50 hours on it being demoed at shows. Never an issue. Then one day for seemingly no reason 1 coil came unwound. Actual pieces of coil in the bottom of my box. One coil measured .9. Other measured .2. Wasn’t a heat issue. Happened when sub was cold at maybe 60% volume. I have a feeling sundown will send you a new sub. Their customer service is typically pretty good and I certainly can’t see where you abused it. Good luck
@HashDogg062 жыл бұрын
"I certainly CAN'T see where you abused it" Wow, you may need to watch the video again & listen to what he says. If indeed he is right & the sub was seeing 3x rated power for a consistent amount of time then it is on you, as soon as you put in more power than rated you are abusing it & isn't in anyway the manufacturers fault.
@Van1018s2 жыл бұрын
@@HashDogg06 how much car audio experience do you have? I’ve been competing since 1998 and I’ve been to world finals 11 times. I’ve seen a zv5 take 7000 watts over and over for 2 years. And a zv6 is suppose to be a step up. I had 3 zv4 15’s prolly 3 years ago with 7900.1 wired at .8 on each sub. I was putting 6000 watts a sub. Beat the hell out them constantly. Never had a problem or failure. Do you really think a 91lb sub with that much motor force can’t handle more than 2500 watts? Drives me crazy when people get on here and know nothing but a manufacturers spec. Go to 20-30 shows a year for 23 years. Work on car audio almost daily for 26 years. Once you have some experience then come up with an intelligent comment.
@HashDogg062 жыл бұрын
@@Van1018s Good for you.
@blownvoicecoil1242 жыл бұрын
@@Van1018s bro he put 9k dam watts to that zv6 ofc he abuse it
@quentinprather6072 жыл бұрын
Damn that sucks!!! Recone it and sell it. Get a nice 4 inch coil sub like the B2 Audio Rampage if your wanting to abuse the hell out of a sub. 3 inch are nice for SPL and music but if you really want to abuse a sub gotta go 4 inch.
@Ieatpeople22 жыл бұрын
i just sold my 2 sa-10's i've been pushing 2k-rms on for 8yrs, they never had any issues. Clearly, tripling the rated wattage is playing with fire... i still want a zv6 tho
@DjDioxis2 жыл бұрын
That's a bummer man. But hopefully they'll have a v6 recone soon. Hopefully the raffle goes well. 👍
@robertkurtz75872 жыл бұрын
Fwiw I ran a bass 8k per RS plat 18, i clamped almost 7k out of one bass 8k That’s a ton of power for anyone sub I’m a fan of taramps , I’ve ran them for years , I’ll say this 100% a big Korean is so much better than taramps , I’ve seen bass 8-15ks blow subs ( also blew a sub on one ) I’ve had many knowledgeable people tell me the signal is just crap from them
@busa_joe11592 жыл бұрын
The amp doesn’t blow subs the user does unless the amp had a problem lmao. Where do you people make this info up
@bainmccartney6852 жыл бұрын
Yo I could fix that with only having to replace only the coil. Heat takes those glues out like nothing
@jaymoney88772 жыл бұрын
Skar didn’t blow 😂😂😂
@arnoldsalazar58512 жыл бұрын
Defective product bro, send that 900 dollar paper weight back to scumdown.
@arnoldsalazar58512 жыл бұрын
My bad sundown. Lol
@cristovalmontoya52222 жыл бұрын
The spider differant colors on z vs x series. Some can't tell tge difference sundiwn should color tge dustcap letters or put a z or x on dustcap to tell difference on series.
@RebursPsychology2 жыл бұрын
mannnnn i woulda been pissed off.. My X15 has been getting daily abuse for 7 months straight
@ParkerTheBasshead2 жыл бұрын
It happens man!
@RebursPsychology2 жыл бұрын
@@ParkerTheBasshead most definitely!!! Your videos are the best🤙 Preciate all the hard work!!!
@justinambrose43872 жыл бұрын
Definitely an eye opener. I will be running 2 sundown nsv5 on a taramps 8k bass and was just thinking about doubling up on the amp until now. 4K watts each of clean power should be plenty
@lancewilliams42612 жыл бұрын
4k is definitely all you need but this wasn't because of the size of the amp, it was either enclosure wrong size, amp clipping, or defective sub-I've had a scv7500 per sub at .5 ohm and below using ZV5s, ZV6s, and NSV4s and never had this happen.
@justinambrose43872 жыл бұрын
@@lancewilliams4261 good to know! This is the biggest system I’ve ever done. Most I’ve had is 1 j 13w7 and just had a 12” skar evl on 1500 rms
@crustysleet2 жыл бұрын
Looks like you get to make another recone video
@BrianErwin Жыл бұрын
so there's no point in getting the z series? the x series is the same thing?
@worldwideteambasscatdownri69632 жыл бұрын
I want the 45series behind these Sundowns!! No disrespect to Sundown, ZV6 is beautiful!! Sorry it broke, my favorite version of Coca-Cola is 18-21Hz on 1 15" Machete Sport V2 on Crescendo Symphony S1 & XS D7500 @rest.
@gio08292 жыл бұрын
Respect for taking responsibility of your mistake, subbed and liked 👍
@ParkerTheBasshead2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate you!!
@dayweed42682 жыл бұрын
Sundown baskets have the worst cooling. Supposed to get air over the coil better but that doesn't happen. Just moves more hot air and Slinky coils
@emmittbishop4783 Жыл бұрын
Dude, the damn thing was about to shoot through the roof of the truck. One could easily believe you were trying to put the coil in orbit. I tend to distinguish between mistakes and bad decisions. I'm not sure which one this was but you had to see that coming.
@user-if5wi7gz5w2 жыл бұрын
Parker, please give me your oppinion on this. I have a taramps MD 1800.1 . Shall I get an Xv2D2 sub and wire it down to 1 Ohm or can I get away with geting an Xv3D1 and wire it down to 0.5 Ohm without frying the amp? I'm willing to take the chance, I wont blame you if it fries, but if you say it will fail 100% then I wouldn't try. I just want to enjoy one beast like this and I think that if I wire it to 1 Ohm the MD 1800.1 won't provide enough power for it after impedance rise.
@rellyrell54092 жыл бұрын
Do u prefer carbon fiber dust cap and cone or Kevlar dust cap and cone??
@scottiffanimccord15092 жыл бұрын
I'm a little speechless. Keep your head up bud you did good love ya man.
@MadDragon752 жыл бұрын
This is the reason why I switched to quadcopters. That sucks bro.
@troydefond23072 жыл бұрын
just get a recone! it'll be back to new.
@madscientist68692 жыл бұрын
900 dollar peace of junk .. you shouldn't have to get it recoiled how much money do you got to spend to have a subwoofer that just works
@BenaresDarkness2 жыл бұрын
Most definitely but he probably won't.
@yhprumhsoj2 жыл бұрын
@@madscientist6869 He had it wired down to .5 ohm on a bass 8k... it has a 3" 8 layer coil. It doesn't matter what "brand" it is, that is abuse. Contrary to what you believe, The Zv6 will handle more abuse than most subs in its class. Reconing isn't a big deal at all and $900 doesn't mean it's invincible.
@quinton3372 жыл бұрын
Lol those deaf bonce 3012s can take it why not a almost twice the price
@blownvoicecoil1242 жыл бұрын
@@quinton337 lol what do you mean the deaf bounce would have blown WAY faster that was 8k watts lmao surprised it lasted a minute
@jordank76852 жыл бұрын
Should make a short video of all your 12s in a line from smallest to biggest motor. Id like to see a side by side comparison of the Jensen js12 and the sundown zv6
@noconfusion252 жыл бұрын
ill send sundown a message about their product here, i mean come on 900 plus dollars............
@skylerharris3488 Жыл бұрын
Why would you buy a second one when you can buy a recon kit?