Thank you!! Me Too!!

Won’t a compression check reveal a blown head gasket?

Anytime!!!

If my Bayliner wasn't paid off and such a reliable boat, man that Yamaha would be nice. Good choice!!!!

+fiero880 im a mechanic and was wondering if a 4.3 block from a regular s10 or astro van would work

Matt Josefczyk bought mine on Craigslist. Great boat for 6 years now at a fraction of the price of new. Plus saved several thousand in taxes.

My dream boat!

yes, same engine, it would need the stainless head gaskets n water pump but same thing, mechanically speaking

If the motor is coming out anyway for 3k you're spending you could have a forged internal blue printed and balanced motor. Swapping a motor over

No it can be used in both fresh water and salt water.

Not a 2 stroke fan but agree Mercury is good.

Outboard are great but I have been a boat mechanic for over 20 years working on outboard and Inboard/Outboards. Over those years I have seen just as many people if not more buy an outboard with a bad engine as I/O folks. The main thing is to know what you are buying and get it checked out.

Kody George 2 strokes banned on most lakes in California

@@robertgary3561 that's another good reason not to live in California!

soft wood / flooring, check the wood in the transom or have a professional check the wood, and check the wood on the underneath of the swim platform, outdrive oil condition, make sure she smoothly gets up to plane, no hesitation or skips. See if the seller has any prior owner information and or service information. How many hours on the engine, which engine does it have.

+fiero880 shes got 380hours and is powered by twin 5.7 carb'd mercruisers paired with bravo 2 drives

Good hours, twin engines can be double the trouble. Just be careful and fully check it out.

Two problems- one is a Mercruiser and the other is a Mercruiser.

Yeah I say bullshit.

THEY TOLD HIM IT "HAS A RACE CAM" IN IT ...LOL

David Jessee agreed

I'll just tare shit up until I figure it out my self don't like the idea of this magic man that's a alien who's smarter than everyone on earth if it was build by humans a human can fix it .

Depends on the price point. If you're buying a 20 year old Bayliner for $7k, most sellers are not going to want to deal with the hassle of water trial. They'll move on to the next buyer. What this is means is that you can pass up a lot of decent boats for $7k. At a certain (much higher) price, a seller will anticipate a water trial and will be open to doing one, but the delta between the two prices can buy you a lot of repairs. Personally, I just assume that an older I/O will need bellows, gimbal bearing, and maybe exhaust manifold/risers unless the seller has records that these were addressed recently. If the price is fair considering these potential maintenance items, I'll buy without a surveyor or water trial. Unless you have deep pockets, you shouldn't be buying an I/O unless you're reasonably mechanically inclined. There is just too much to go wrong with an I/O that even a brief water trial or pre-purchase survey won't find.

Was the filter that is on the carb where the fuel line attaches to changed ? Also you should have a catch bowl / water separator on the mechanical fuel pump, have you checked that ? Could also be a fuel line from the tank to the engine breaking down, or trash that is not being picked up in the tank but the filter screen on the pick up tube.

I know I have a few myself.

What is the valve lash

Louisiana,huh? not much call for MARINE TECHS IN THAT STATE...could take as much as 2 or 3 minutes to find a good one.....lol hahahaha Lake Bistineau RULES!!!! BOOO! TEXAS!!!

I know, it is crappy. There are great boats on CL but you have to look hard. The bad is there are many out there that are bad deals. If you can afford, newer with warranty is safer. But finding a good used boat and letting a reputable mechanic check it out before buying is much safer.

sam3d best boats I ever got were CL

A marine surveyor is a good idea but many of them do not check out mechanical items like engines as hard as that is to believe. Now it's not that the surveyor is lazy or corrupt, they just do not inspect engines even though you would think that is one of the most important items that should be checked. If you are hiring a surveyor interview them and find out what they will be inspecting.

checked a few and they all do according to what they have listed. also it is a visual inspection. they cannot inspect what they cant see or access easily like bellows if the boat is out of water.

Like I said before a marine surveyor is a good idea and a good surveyor does a great job at checking boats for structural issues. While no one can be expected to see through metal or find drive hardware problems if the boat is in the water not all, but many of the surveyors I have observed over 20 years as a boat mechanic don’t check much in the way of engine mechanical items. Now different surveyors are going to do different things all I can do is speak to what I have seen. Of those surveyors most don’t even start the main engines let alone take the boat for a ride. My point is known what they are checking. If they look at an engine block to inspect for cracks do to improper winterization that’s good, but if they do not run that same engine and miss a rod knock that could be an expensive miss.

I'm in MI and though a sea trial is extra it is fairly common in my region. Typically lenders send out a surveyor to see if what they are writing a loan on is worth the money as a loss prevention measure. typically there is no relationship with the customer in that instance. A private survey is of a different circumstance. i know that seawater vessel surveyors play by different rules. I see a lot of ocean boats come through repossession auctions and some actually have paperwork.

Barack Obama I hope your enjoying your free time now that you’re out of office and I thought you were from Chicago. Barack we are getting way off topic. The guy’s buddy in the video bought a boat from a private seller who only ran it on the hose. That seller may have told him a BS story of why the boat runs rough and then the guy bought the boat and now has to replace or rebuild the engine. To my original point have someone qualified whether it’s a surveyor or good mechanic check out the engine so you avoid this guy fate. And I personally believe a late test is a big part of that check. In this case even if the buyer would have gone on a lake test by himself with the seller he would have seen this thing needed more than a tune-up. I am also from MI and never once post that a marine survey is a bad thing in fact I encouraged people to get a survey just make sure the engine gets checked. It seems like you may also work in the industry but it doesn’t help anyone for us to debate the nuances of a marine survey. Like you said there are different types of surveys done a buyer needs to know what was checked. If someone just says the bank did a survey it’s all good but does not know what was checked they could be stuck with a problem. Many boats cost thousands of dollars spend a few hundred and get it properly checked out.

Don't Tread On Me then your a bad seller

TechOut so you would let someone mess around with a car your selling and take parts off?? I doubt it. If im selling a vehicle first off im honest so I would tell them of there was a problem. Many ways to see problems without removing parts.

TechOut - I can answer this with experience: Last year I was selling a fair/good condition 1987 Bayliner Liberty 2150 for $3500. I had rebuilt the engine, so it was welllll worth the asking price. It was a solid runner, drove nice as could be, and was mechanically 10/10 and cosmetically 8/10. A guy comes to look at buying it, and asks if he can pull the plugs to check the engine and check out the stringers and transom. I said "of course, be my guest", you know, thinking it was an easy sale because I knew how good of condition everything was in. I took a picture of his ID and his phone number down (in case he pulled any BS). Well, I hear his drills, tools, and him wrenching around. Then he gets done and says it looks pretty decent, and he then offers me $1900. So, I turn it down and thank him for looking anyways. He leaves, I put the mooring cover back on, and then I end up having another guy coming out about 2hrs later. This guy checks out the boat, wants to hear it start. I go to start it, and nothing... I lift the doghouse, and I'm mortified when I investigate the issue: 3 Spark Plugs are cracked off with the bottom half still in the heads!!! I then start REALLY investigating an looking around, and see in the bottom of the bay a dime sized hole drilled into the very bottom of the stringer, all the way through (there's no access to the other side to repair it either). He drilled 12 holes in random places all around the inside of the transom about halfway through the transom.... Needles to say, I'm LIVID at this point. So, I call the guy to tell him I mulled it over and talked to my wife, and she feels its best just to let it go for the offer he made ($1900). When he arrives, I have my wife secretly call the sheriff film inside, and the guy starts trying to haggle the price down to $1500 now.... During our haggling and my fake friendly BS'ing with the guy, the Sherrif shows up. The guy looks shaken up, and I instantly start letting the guy have it (at this point, he can't do anything to me). I explain to the sheriff exactly what happened, and luckily I had a video of me running the engine on Facebook live right before the guy got there. The sheriff runs his nameand it turns out he didn't even have a drivers license! Lol. The guy starts denying that he did any checking on the boat and that he merely seen the broken plugs and offered the $1900. He started pajnting himself in s corner by trying talking too much, and he accidentally let some things slip that we wouldn't have known otherwise unless he was working on the boat like he denied doing. So, the sheriff gave him an ultimatum once be realized the guy flatout did it: he told the guy to pay up the $1900 he originally offered to me, for myself to get the repairs done, OR he was going to be taking him in for driving without a license, vandalism, and "theft by deception"... The guy quickly rips the cash out of his pocket and hands it to me. IMMEDIATELY something feels off. I hand the deputy money and voice my concern. The guy then IMMEDIATELY takes off running trying to get away! It turns out the money was counterfeit/fake as hell!!! So, the guy gets arrested for counterfeit, obstruction, fraud, vandalism, and attempted theft, lol... The problem though? I'm still out all the damage and have to pay to fix it all still, AND can't sell my boat until it's don'e! The case is still going on and the trial date is set for the 2nd week in Ocyober. But, even when he's found guilty and does his time and had restitution applied to pay me, I'm still out the money if he doesn't decide to pay up anyways... Judging by how big of a scumbag he is, itll be years before I see any of that money. Sooooo, why don't you let people start wrenching on your boat before buying it??? This is why...

@@strikeforcek9149 why you would leave a random guy alone do that is just stupid. I would've done the compression test in front of him. I have done this with cars, boats and dirt bikes. Lesson learnt

@@chrisso4869 lesson learned is right! Lol I would've never imagined someone doing some horse shit like that, especially over a little $3500 boat. Nonetheless, I surely didn't expect all the rest of the scam to unfold like it did either. Lol. But, yes, lesson learned.

If you are paying a mechanic, considering other factors with the right side of the engine block, a replacement was the best option.

NovaMan 350 almost guaranteed the hole was caused by running low on oil.

Where do you live? I need to sell a boat 😂

Jibber Ish California.

@@robertgary3561 gotcha, I'm in TX.

buy a PROJECT BOAT from a REPUTABLE MECHANIC.....HAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAH, YOU ARE KILLIN ME!!!

Absolutely Agree!!!

If I'm the seller, NO Eff'n Way I'm letting a tire-kicker run my I/O or big outboard 'wide open' for ten minutes straight. That's not normal or expected operation. He can demo it for up to an hour at various engine RPM's, including one to two minute INTERVALS at WOT. With small outboards, continuous WOT is OK.

10/15 minutes flat out sounds too long to me. AS Russ G says short periods at a time.

David Farmer If an engine cannot run wot for more than 15 mins then its not worth a fuck !

You can get a remand motor for 1500

Yeah I would look elsewhere. I mean a simple carb rebuild and new fuel would correct a "its been sitting" issue. It could many more problems than just something simple. Don't let them try and lock you into an agreement you can't get out of. Sounds shady.

I could not agree with you more. 150% more. The engine is getting changed out as we speak with a nice reman long block from a reputable company in Charlotte, NC. Hopefully in a week or two he will be back in the water.

Depends, on how much another engine or rebuild will cost ? also what about the outdrive unit ? what is that condition.

hell NO........

head over to my channel to see what $2k gets you. rotten floor, transom, stringers, and an engine that doesn't start.

I would have looked into it,long ago,lol !!! I'm a mechanic,and a non-start can, *sometimes* be easy to repair.

200 HP is plenty...

@@BuzzLOLOL but 300 is better

@@user-zf4qs2jy3n my 20 baja outlaw has 5.7LX GM 🤘

That is horrible. His reman block has been working great. So this is one of the reasons going reman vs rebuild is so much better.

insure it and set it on fire.... collect check and buy a dependable boat