I was one of those people who was questioning whether or not I may have lost my salvation. Thanks to your teaching and messages I now know that I have eternal life! Thank you and God Bless you!

Now I know who Trent is. I enjoy your channel; I am an advocate of eternal security and when this was revealed to me 3 years ago after 27 years of bad doctrine , it was like spring cleaning in my soul, and brought me peace and joy like I had never experienced. I believe this is a serious issue that needs to be addressed because satan hates the message of grace , the true gospel . God bless this ministry

Out of the hundreds and hundreds of sermons and teachings ive watched, this is the most blunt, clear cut and to the point teaching ive seen. Bravo good sir, bravo. 😊

I read the gospel in a book.The Holy Spirit opened my eyes to Jesus paying for my sin debt.I accepted the message in my heart and mind.

Thank you for preaching a clear gospel message. In 52 years I've seen the gospel dragged through mud repeatedly.

I attended harvest church in riverside CA. From 2010 to 2020. I struggled with my salvation because I was never taught the true security of the believer. As I watched you as you listened to Greg I saw similar reactions in you to him. Greg will teach security one day and conditional security the next. Since I left harvest my salvation security has grown thanks to people like you.

Good message Jesse. Glad to see people are starting to watch your channel. It has been a blessing to me😎

To be 'born again' means you become a child of God. You can't change that any more than I can stop being my earthly dad's child. A believer can stop acting like God's child, but the relationship can't be revoked. God will stop blessing a misbehaving child, remove certain protections, allow consequences, possibly take them home and withhold rewards at the judgement, but that child is forever a child of the same heavenly father.

Thanks for exposing Greg Laurie and his false doctrine.

Awesome message brother Jesse! Clearly you are rightly dividing the word of God. Anyone who listens to Greg Laurie is going to be placed under condemnation and fear, and not be effective in giving the gospel and winning souls for Christ! This is clearly what the enemy wants. If the enemy can get you to believe in just ONE work, before you get saved, he can cancel out your salvation. My wife and I are considering attending the Florida Bible college in Tampa. We love your teaching and the teaching of Dr. Ralph Yankee Arnold.. God bless you brother keep up the good work🙏🙏🙏

Love your message Jesse. Keep going. I have a perpetual question for all the ‘persevere’ crowd, or the P in tulip. What constitutes perseverance? They must have a very low view of the law to think their flawed and spotty good works can be compared to Christs work on our behalf. This is heresy, they are deceived, and it’s all driven by Pride.

Excellent, as always!!! Thank you so much, Bibleline!!!

I tell calvinists many times that God gave them a free will. That God is sovereign and if they don't like it, they need to take it up with God. But God in His sovereignty gave us free will. It was God's decision to give us a free will.

Sounds like Greg Laurie frontloads and backloads works to his gospel message.

But the salvation of the righteous is of the LORD: He is their strength in the time of trouble. Psalm 37:39 KJV In God is my salvation and my glory: The rock of my strength, and my refuge, is in God. Psalm 62:7 KJV Salvation belongeth unto the LORD: Thy blessing is upon thy people. Selah. Psalm 3:8 KJV The LORD is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? The LORD is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid? Psalm 27:1 KJV The LORD is my strength and song, And is become my salvation. Psalm 118:14 KJV

anytime you see stadiums full of people claiming to be saved, you can bet that's the wide gate... certainly not the straight and narrow gate that leads to salvation

Glad to hear that you said rightly dividing the Bible

The parable of the soil is a great litmus test for one's doctrinal view as the plain simple reading is 1st soil never saved, all others saved but differ in what type of fruitful or unfruitful lives they have. Some believe some don't. Some believers bear fruit , some don't. Those who bear fruit are rewarded, those who don't aren't and suffer loss of that possibility. That the bible is clear on.... God bless you guys down south our brethren 🙏🏻

I like this guy !! Also Andrew Farley. They tell truths

I agree in your words....EXCEPT we cannot and I STRESS CANNOT overvalue the Sovereignty of God.

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Thank you.

Fire up, Pastor Jesse

Amen. Good video. Gregg Laurie is a disciple of chuck Smith calvary chapel. This is the fruit of Chuck Smiths teaching. It is lordship or discipleship salvation and needs to be renounced. Great job

I think this side of the debate is just as dangerous as the Lordship position. Giving assurance to anyone and everyone who said a prayer, recieved Christ etc. Is just as dangerous as telling people to look at thier performance for assurance. I believe both sides of this error on opposite extremes and are best for each believer to figure out in Gods time.

Amen a person is saved simply by resting on the finished work of Christ no turning from sins or any other method just trust what Christ has already paid for it is finished TETELESTAI!!

Doing a good job Pastor

WE WILL DIE ON THE HILL OF FREE BIBLICAL GRACE THE LORD JESUS CHRIST PAID IT ALL

Been studying Calvinism for awhile. Have also researched Greg Laurie. He is good friends with Jack Hibbs who credits Laurie with leading him to the Lord. Jack is pastors at Calvary Chapel Chino Hills. He did a question/ answer recently in which a woman was worried her daughter wasn’t saved. She told him that her daughter at one time accepted Christ and wanted to now because her daughter was not living right, how to be assured she was saved. Jack responded with the proverbial works prove salvation and it was a train wreck answer. It seems many Calvary Chapels backload works based on their statements of faith band some of the teachings I’ve watched. One other thing is , I’d like if possible your take on Laurie’s close friendship with Alice Cooper. He wrote a book called , Lennon , Dylan, Alice, and Jesus : The Spiritual Biography of Rock and Roll. Alice Cooper may be saved and just living as he always did , idk. But he still does rock concerts with demonic like outfits, makeup, environments along side various rock bands. Laurie’s ties to Cooper are curious since Laurie defines repentance as turning from sin and leans Calvinistic in his own teachings. Anyway, all these people need prayer that they come to understand the true gospel of grace and those that follow them as well.

From Greg Laurie's website: Sometimes people will make a profession of faith, and then seemingly fall away. We ask ourselves, “Did this person lose their salvation?” My question, in turn, would be, “Were they ever really saved to begin with?” If somebody commits their life to Christ-and then walks away and never comes back, I suggest to you that they were never a Christian at all. If, on the other hand, someone commits their life to the Lord, walks away, and then comes back to Christ, I suggest to you that were simply a prodigal. The true test is where they end up. A true believer will always come home to the Lord, eventually. A person who is not a true believer won’t.

God is ABSOLUTELY sovereign. Very important truth. To deny God's absolute sovereignty is heresy 😢. I don't care about calvin. Let God be true and every man a liar

Excellent job pastor. Keep exposing the many charlatans posing as believers.

Getting out of the Will of God after you Believed will cause you to lose potential Spiritual growth, but you do not lose your salvation. That time between when your out of his Will; until that time you get back to doing his will; the person will realize the salvation experience lost during that time wasted. It is not understood until the sorrowful heart comfirnes the experience of ones cross they must take up.

GOD bless you brother I appreciate your teaching and the clarity you bring with them. Pastor would you be able to explain Philippians 2 verses 12 through 18. Specifically verse 12 what is Pauls message right there to work out your salvation with fear and trembling? Again pastor thank you very much for your time GOD BLESS u.

Easy believe ism to just believe is the hardest thing you will ever do.

They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.

Love your church and ministry. I can't find a free grace church near me. I live 30 minutes south of Jacksonville FL. Any suggestions on how I might locate one?

Actor Joel Courtney played the role of a young Greg Laurie in 'Jesus Revolution' 2023 ( Kelsey Grammar as Late Chuck Smith ) Use to listen to Greg Laurie for years and most of his teaching seemed sound but when issues of Salvation were presented, there was still 'too much' confusion for my discernment. Unfortunately, most of the 'best' of preachers fail in their discernment and 'rightly dividing' the scripture.

They go about to establish their own righteousness because they don't understand the righteousness of God!!!

Thank God HE chose to save me. None seek after God. The apostle Paul knew all about THAT

Great video, brother. Please continue standing fast for the true gospel of the grace of God. King James is the words of God! There’s a great pastor called Curt Crist. He’s one of the best pastors that teaches the reconciliation of God 2Cor 5:18-21.

hi pastor, i enjoy your channel, and am not sure if this is something you might review, but i wanted to know if you have ever seen the video of the boy who had a dream about judgement day? i was just curious about your opinion, if you have seen it?

How could one lose something that's eternity theirs? They can't.

From some things I heard about Greg Laurie's testimony, it seems he got the Free Grace Gospel from his friend Lonnie Frisbee as a young man, but later fell into the error of Lordship Salvation due to the influence of Chuck Smith and Billy Graham. I'm thinking of writing Greg to plead with him to repent. Should I attempt this, or should I leave him be?

Grab any pastor from the pool of Pentecostalism and they believe and teach the same....I lived under that heresy for over 30 years. Praise God he revealed himself to me outside of that burdensome cult.

Hi Jesse, Thank you for your ministry, I recently read Matthew 10: 34-39 and tried researching comments on these verses and found not one comment by any of the main popular preachers offering their thoughts on you tube (good ones or bad ones) this seemed to be interesting?? Could you please commented on these verses, I feel maybe this could be used by Lordship Salvation preachers?? Good bless

Can you make a topic about the Word of God?

I don't think Calvinist have a overemphasized view of sovereignty, I think they have a diminished view of God's sovereignty. Sovereignty is the right to rule as one pleases. Calvinist believe that God's sovereignty is meticulous determination as that is the only way God can accomplish his means. This is why that like to say that "they were never truly saved". There is no way in their belief system that if God causes someone to believe that they could be carnal or fall away. When you twist scripture and God's nature, it will logically cause you to twist all of these things so that they fit the system.

That’s because everyone keeps mixing law and grace, Paul was given the mystery, he was the first person of the body of Christ, math mark, Luke and John are under the law not grace they are the earthly kingdom folks not the church the body of Christ.

The Bible clearly says that it's not the flesh that has anything to do with being saved. God MUST in mercy saves

Any pastors on youtube you would recommend. Ive been looking recently. I listened to some of Northland bible baptist church and He seemed good( so far) and then i saw he did an interview with you. But other than that every pastor ive listened to for any amount of time ended up saying concerning things.

29For whom He foreknew, He also predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son, that He might be the firstborn among many brethren. 30Moreover whom He predestined, these He also called; whom He called, these He also justified; and whom He justified, these He also glorified. THE TRUTH

This is part of the statement we elders in a community church with heavy Wesleyan Arminian affiliation allowed the pastor to write. I for one didn’t think it was well written and seems to be to me works salvation.” “That true faith in Christ expresses itself in loving God supremely, trusting Him completely, and obeying His commands unconditionally. Anything less is not true faith.” Any thoughts? Maybe I’m looking at it wrong.

Will you please do a video on Romans 9? It seems to be very clear there that God chose the elect before time. I reread it and am struggling to see.

2 Chronicles 7:14 "If my people who are called by my name humble themselves, and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and heal their land." Turning from your wicked ways; giving it to Jesus; abandoning sin; being contrite for it and stopping doing it when God asks you to; These are all biblical things. You cannot continue to look at pornography and think nothing is wrong with it. If you do, I would examine yourself like the bible says to see if you truly are saved by Jesus.

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I do believe the Lord saves more people then we think. Even though some believe that one must have works after being saved to show that they are saved. I do think most who say this are probably saved to and just confused on certian passages in the bible that are very hard to understand i think. But we can not cancel out the ETERNAL passages because of some difficult passages that seem to do that.. The book of james almost did not make it into the bible because of the very reason that some believed it would be used to preach a works based gospel which is not a gospel at all

I am learning much from you. Been a Christian for 42 years and have a masters in apologetics. You’re right. Many need to be careful in how they preach the gospel. I’m an ardent Calvinist critic as well. But here’s my question. You know all the verses. Not just the parable of the sower. But many passages that are warnings. Paul said test or prove yourself that you’re in the faith. A dog returning to his vomit. Jesus said you’ll know them by their fruit. Scripture warns of spots and blemishes while they feast with you. Not of those who draw back as in the provocation - but who believe unto the saving of the soul. Warnings about those who went out from among us but were not of us. Etc etc. I could keep going and give many passages. Here my point. All of those passages are in Scripture for a reason. Don’t you think it DOES need to be clarified what the characteristics of a true believer are? Seems like common sense to me. And if someone attempts to do that- it does not turn them into a preacher of works righteousness. That’s a bit unfair don’t you think?We can’t just make a follower of Christ (who died a brutal death on the cross to save them)- out to be a believer- simply by mentally assenting to Christ and “believing”. Only God know knows the heart of course. James: You say you believe. You do well. The devils believe and tremble. So I would make this observation of this issue. It’s all about balance. We can’t overthink the Bible on one end and turn it into fatalism and God doing all the work and were simply automatons living in a Divine Matrix. But neither can we turn the Christian faith into just believing. Again isn’t it a fair and honest common sense question to ask what a true believer looks like. Jesus said we’ll know them by their fruit. There seems to be a confusion on just about everyone’s part in this debate over justification and sanctification. I still think this quote from Martin Luther is true: Faith alone saves. But the faith that saves is never alone. This in no way -in my mind asserts anything about works righteousness. Luther did struggle with James for some time. But this quote to means he reconciled the book perfectly. I did hear you teach recently on those passages referring to rewards and judgment. Fair enough. I still believe asking the question: “What does a believer or a Christian look like? How do they live. Scripture says in Roman’s 12:1,2 to not be confirmed to the world. Our hearts should desire to not follow the lust of the flesh list of the eyes and the pride of life. Conclusion: one can believe 100% that salvation is by grace alone through faith alone. Not by works in any way. But still as an ambassador and teacher or shepherd - be responsible to explain to the flock - what are the characteristics of a true follower of Christ. If they can’t- and this muddies the gospel - then why is Scripture full of the warnings like I mentioned when I began. Appreciate your response. Thanks.

I think what is so scary is that there is no way to prove if any of us are saved or not. Only God Knows.

Can we "agree to disagree" on this topic? Can both groups of professing Christians be genuine believers even if they differ on their Soteriology?

GL, appears to have been fed a bushel of TULIPS. That said, both David Pawson & Michael Heiser taught the word "Believe" is continuous/on going as used in scripture. They never said "Performance/Works" saves, just Belief in Jesus saves. However, they would raise the question, "If you no longer believe Jesus Saves...what saves you?"

That's why I quit listening to Moody radio 😒

This all comes down to definitions and interpreting Bible with the Bible. Faith means believing in someone for something. Christians believe in Christ Jesus ALONE for eternal life and salvation. Why? He did the works for us, He fulfilled the law of God, He died for our sins, was buried and rose again bodily for our justificiation. Grace means unmerited favor. Obedience means doing something for something. If you believe the Gospel of Christ Jesus you HAVE obeyed the Gospel. If God wants you to not steal and you obey Him, then you won't steal. Repentance means change of mind about x or y. If I go to a grocery store and repent, I change my mind and I won't go. When Jesus said to repent and believe the Gospel, He was telling people to change their mind about Him and actually believe Jesus is the Messiah, Savior of the world from its sins, the giver of eternal life. This is so simple yet Bible teachers like Laurie and other calvinists mess this up and believers go into legalism and unbelievers go to hell by thinking they can be saved by stopping all sin AND believing in Jesus Christ. It is only faith in Christ Jesus FOR eternal life and remission of sins. Recently I was having a phone call with a loss of salvation guy I know. I was evangelizing with him but I have noticed he is so messes up with his soteriology. May God open his eyes. He, the guy, said part of the Gospel is good works. And there he went into heresy and I have told him a billion times it is ETERNAL LIFE that cannot be lost. Our faith and works must never be mixed into one. Pentecostals and charismatics are always so close with roman catholics. Yes, there are rare exceptions but they have the same root issue: self-righteousness and pride, thinking them believing in Jesus AND not sinning equals to heaven. That is NOT Jesus alone for salvation and eternal life, that is an accursed gospel and heretical one that leads to hell. That is why I had to stop evangelizing with him. Keep these up man! You are a rare, biblical voice and a channel on KZfaq that actually preaches the truth about essentials of christian faith and of the Bible. Praise God Almighty for your channel!

So, explain Romans 9 please. What about Ephesians 1:4, John 17:24, 1 Peter 1:20, 2 Timothy 1:9-10

NO is the answer .

If you get to heaven by faith alone why does the Holy Spirit convict you of your sins after you've put your trust in Christ. ?

After having observed how people respond to the Gospel and hearing the first 16 seconds of this video and hearing your "What!!!???" I know already that I agree with Greg!

I'm not a Calvinist. In fact, I'd probably say I lean Anabaptist. But, I'm pretty sure this guy is quoting Matthew 13:20-23. Which does seem to teach that many lose their faith and walk away (see Matthew 24:10, John 6:66, 2 Thessalonians 2:3, 2 Peter 2:20-22, etc). Did I hear Jesse say pastors should ever shift or change? Whoa, that's crazy. It's absolutely impossible that any man knows scripture perfectly. We are all wrong, confused, or uneducated on something. If a person isn't growing in their understanding, there's something profoundly wrong with their Christian walk in discipleship. I assume Jesse does believe the Calvinist pastor should change his views. Jesse is not immune to correction/change.

Here’s my question. Can someone feel they are saved and not actually be saved?

Why would God pick someone to be saved then give them the task of earning it or working to "stay saved"? He would already know if the person he picked would "endure until the end", would he not?

Hey brother Jesse, I would tend to agree with you on all points except that the parable of the sower is not about salvation. If we look at the Luke parallel passage it clears it right up: Luke 8:11-15 11 Now the parable is this: The seed is the word of God. (THE GOSPEL) 12 Those by the way side are they that hear; then cometh the devil, and taketh away the word out of their hearts, lest they should believe and be saved. (NOT SAVED) 13 They on the rock are they, which, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no root, which for a while believe, and in time of temptation fall away. (SAVED BUT FALL AWAY - LOSS OF REWARDS) 14 And that which fell among thorns are they, which, when they have heard, go forth, and are choked with cares and riches and pleasures of this life, and bring no fruit to perfection. (SAVED BUT WORLDLY - NOT FRUITFUL) 15 But that on the good ground are they, which in an honest and good heart, having heard the word, keep it, and bring forth fruit with patience. (SAVED AND FRUITFUL - PERSEVERE) I would be grateful to hear your thoughts on my assessment. God bless

What do you think about Hyper grace. Holy spirit never convect Sin in the believer life but always convict we are Righteous God never see Believer sinful behaviour and always see perfect. Spiritual principles ( seek God, pray , live Holy life) are concetered legalism. Don't make them bondage.. There is no effort need for spiritual growth. Abiding in Jesus produce growth. Can you clarify me ? Pastor..

All it takes to be a Christian is to believe in Jesus christ not our good works because we don't do good works to be saved we do good works because we are saved and we don't do good works to make it to heaven I believe we go to heaven when we receive Jesus christ as lord and savior God has given us tools for our spiritual growth

I dont think they realize by adding works they water down the gospel. Grace true grace is what makes the gospel special if any of it involves us then it makes no different from islam, buddism, hedonism etc. They all believe in a works based salvation the popular is not grace alone for salvation (contrary to popular belief) thats actually rare teaching nowadays because it goes against human instinct and human wisdom but i think thats why so few peoole find it as Christ said. So few people actually GET IT and thats even including those who probably are actually saved.

Even satan believes and trembles . James 2:19-24 Matthew 25:24-30

Its my understanding calvinism teaches that God chooses who will be saved and the Holy Spirit regenerates them so they can believe the gospel. If you happen to be one who was not chosen did not God choose you for eternal punishment in hell ??. I thank God for my Lord Jesus Christ that faith comes by hearing and by hearing the word of God . Romans 10:17

So I would like to know, would the prodigal son (from the Bible) have gone to heaven if he had died before coming back home to his father?

John 3:18 King James Version 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. The only sin that will send you to Hell is the sin of UNBELIEF ,so believe in the gospel of Jesus Christ and his blood that washes away all your sins. 1 Corinthians chapter 15 verses 1 through 4 kjv.

I don't necessarily disagree with your thoughts, However I don't think you're looking at the whole of scripture. There are flaws with some of Laurie's statements, yes. If you view your relationship with Jesus as a marriage relationship (much like the example of Jesus being the husband of the church) how does that change your view? In the human experience we meet someone, deiced we want a relationship and we then choose to get married. In the same way the "sinner" hears or discovers the saving gospel of Jesus Christ. In time that sinner decides they want to be saved. What are they "saved" from? Eternal damnation for the rejection of Jesus. Back to the human relationship example. You choose to marry this person you've been getting to know. The marriage happens and then what? You continue to live as a single person and do as you please? Do you "turn from" that single, dating lifestyle, or do you (figuratively speaking) give up your self-centered lifestyle (side note, first tenant of Satanism "do as thou wilt")? Do you continue the pursuit of pleasing yourself and your own needs or do you invest in that person and get to know them more intimately? Do you change bad or destructive habits/choices for your partner? If you do won't your life reflect that "fruit" (Gal 5:22-23)? If you don't, how long will that relationship last and then most people would question if their partner really did/does love them and most wonder if that partner really is committed to them (am I saved). So many "fall out of love". How does the breakdown of a relationship happen? It's not because you have a vested interest in that person. It's not because of a changed life/lifestyle. When issues arise in that relationship do you "persevere to the end"? (2 Cor 8:8-12, 2 Tim 4:6-8, Phil 1:6 and 3:12-16. We can also glean wisdom from the examples set out in the Old Testament. Not saying we live under the law but that doesn't mean there aren't examples we can't learn from. 1 Chor 28:20, 2 Chor15:7) Do you "continue to run the race set before you" (1 Cor 9:24-27)? Simply "believing" is a great start but action must follow it. We repent of our sins (sometimes daily) because we recognize we we are in need of a savior and we can't do this life without out His help. The word "SIN" is originally a Hebrew and Greek word meaning "to miss the mark". The people of Jesus' time would have known this. So in that context, to repent of your "sins" is simply acknowledging that you missed it. Have you ever knowingly or unknowingly "missed it" in a relationship? What did you do? Did you ask forgiveness and then do it again? How does that tend to work out? Do you really have confidence and assurance in your marriage or partner simply because you "believe" that one day 3 yrs ago you publicly made a declaration to a group of people? Are you really a husband or wife to your partner? I do personally believe in "once saved always saved". However the life we live and the choices we make in this life will affect the crowns we receive at the Bema seat judgment which is the judgement specifically for those who choose Jesus, (2 Cor 5:10. Rom 14:10, Ps 62:12, Mat 16-27, Eph 6-8). The Great White thrown Judgement of Rev 20:11-15 is very clear it's the judgement of those who denied Jesus and turned their back in Him. They are thrown into the lake of fire for all eternity.

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I attended Greg Laurie's church for several years. Greg Laurie is definitely not a Calvinist. He teaches free will and that election comes by God's foreknowledge. Greg Laurie was trained up by Chuck Smith and Billy Graham. Chuck Smith is the founder of Calvery Chapel, and the Jesus Movement, and that is where Greg Laurie came from. Greg Laurie preaches the same (false) gospel as Billy Graham. Greg Laurie is the one that made Rick Warren famous. Greg Laurie's church became the first "Purpose Driven Church" while I was attending it. Chuck Smith, Greg Laurie and Rick Warren changed the face and course of the American church and catapulted the "emergent church" movement. I grew up in Orange County, CA where it all began with Chuck Smith, the Jesus Movement and Calvery Chapel. Harvest Christian Fellowship, where I attended, pastored by Greg Laurie was a Calvery Chapel plant.

I kinda always thought the seeds that did fall on some ground but didn’t reap a harvest weren’t actually saved to begin with. Besides the seeds the bird (devil) snatched, I saw the other seeds believing the gospel for wrong reasons. They mightve really only saw the gospel for their fleshly needs, whatever that may have been. The rocky ground seed thought life on this side of eternity with the gospel would be sweet but then they fell away due to persecution, for they didn’t know the fact that people might hate them for the gospel. The thorny seed that got distracted by worldly affairs may have also only believed the gospel for some type of fleshly need and perhaps were deceived by thinking the gospel was some type of prosperity gospel (they could be a member of Joel Osteen church). When that need wasnt met, they turned to money and/or fame, and etc. Basically, the thorny and rocky ground seeds didnt believe the gospel for salvational purposes (and they probably never really saw themselves as guilty sinners to begin with). The seed that did reap a harvest saw the gospel as a need to be right with God. The last seed saw the gospel as means to be forgiven, for they realized they owed a great sin debt God, aka they realized they were guilty before God. They believed in the gospel for the right reasons, for eternal reasons, not for fleshly needs. They knew the gospel would grant them something greater than the things this world could offer. They didn’t see the gospel as means for wealth, prosperity, and a persecution-free life unlike the other seeds. They were content with the fact they received eternal life. I’m willing to be wrong however

Two men, two gospels. Two manmade gospels, to be exact. Can man loose his salvation? Well, that depends on the teacher you have chosen for yourself. People, WAKE UP!!

Who is Gregg Laurie? I never heard of him or his associates.

That video of Greg l is old any new videos maybe he changed his view.

*Calvinists must believe in purgatory and free will* in Matthew 6 JESUS says Matt.6.12 - Forgive us our debts, *as we also have forgiven our debtors* vs 14 - For IF YOU FORGIVE MEN WHEN THEY SIN AGAINST YOU, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. Matt.6.15 - But *IF YOU DO NOT forgive men their sins your Father *WILL NOT FORGIVE YOUR SINS* I'm sure you won't argue this command is for non-elects. How can GOD's forgiveness depend on you deciding to forgive someone or not if you don't have free will, to merit GOD's forgiveness? You not forgiving a debt as GOD commands makes you a debtor to GOD. GOD will also not forgive you. If GOD forgiving us also depends on we forgiving others, but we're elects destined for heaven and cannot lose our salvation. Hence if I as an elect don't forgive someone who has offended me, hence GOD will not forgive me also. If GOD doesn't forgive me but I'm an elect, hence he must punish me; Ergo - *Purgatory* This elect is a debtor hence a sinner in the sight of GOD but will still enter the kingdom of GOD despite GOD not forgiving him. We know a sinner cannot inherit the kingdom of GOD, but as an elect making it impossible for him to lose his salvation and must enter GOD's kingdom, he has to be purged. Calvinists can delude themselves by saying "there's no way an elect won't forgive those who offended them" Then I ask, what's the point of this words JESUS said here then? Why did he give this commandment if it's meaningless to elects? Why does an elect have free will to forgive or not to forgive i.e can choose to obey or disobey this commandment, in light of calvinisms doctrine of regeneration?

Jesus said to Nicodemus that one must first be born again to see or enter the kingdom of God (John 3:3-7). Jesus also said he loses NONE of the sheep his father gives him (John 6:39) For all of the people who know better than Jesus, and say one can lose his/her salvation, who can say how many times one can be born again? In other words, can a man be born again, then lose his salvation, then be born again (again)? If that sounds ridiculous to you, imagine how ridiculous it sounds to me when you suggest that YOU are more powerful than God Almighty, that Jesus can't even do what he said he is empowered to do. The apostle Paul had no doubt that he was saved, and that's what he taught Christians through his epistles. If it was possible for Paul to lose his salvation, how could he have been certain of having it? Have you read about when Jesus promised this? John 10:28 And I *give* unto them *eternal life* ; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. If someone says one can lose his/her salvation, then they call Jesus a liar. Proverbs 30:5-6

HERE IS AN EXTREMELY SERIOUS QUESTION!!!!??? If indeed (and I believe you) that faith alone in Jesus Christ alone and belief alone IS THE ONLY WAY TO BE SAVED and there is none other gospel or GOOD NEWS. If indeed all other gospel's are CURSED with a DOUBLE CURSE. Galatians 1:6-9 What then say you of us older folk whom in the past may have either in seeking God's favor either ignorantly, carelessly or even arrogantly have participated in and supported assemblies which retain elements of false, unclear, meritorious or Calvinist or Arminian or other elements of other non belief alone gospels? How can we back out of a briar patch or unrolled barbed wire traps laid on a battlefield? What if we feel like the RAM caught in a thicket? Must we repent or undo that evil which we have done? If we then must repent then is not the gospel different for us or perhaps non existent. Is it then OK simply to tell God we have sinned and done evil in His sight? If at the time we supported those Gospels because some famous reformer started great revolutions revivals and awakenings. How does one backpedal out of quicksand a briar patch or a tar pit? The greatest problem is that these fake gospels contained the true gospel which we did believe with front-loaded or back-loaded elements of authentic Bible spirituality so are we saved or lost? Can we count our back loaded elements as works done prior to our faith which in themselves will be judged for their Can we whom came under a double curse break the double curse? If so HOW? if not are we ourselves eternally condemned in some kind of unpardonable sin situation? Are then we ourselves eternally condemned for not fulfilling the gospels we ourselves may have taught others? Does God count the front loaded elements as works done while we were dead in trespasses and sins and does God count the rear loaded elements as works that will be tried at the Bema or rather does God count us as never gotten saved at all even though we believed in the elements of Christ having died for our sins and risen and placed faith in Him though not alone? How then does one who has participated in assemblies in which gospels loaded with unessential elements have been preached or taught NOW FIND OUR ASSURANCE OF SALVATION? What then do we do NOW? And what now that we might be feeling the "tortures of the damned" in our physical body and need more than salvation but need healing in the flesh and mind and body too? Your friend claimed that at the moment he believed he felt like a piano was lifted off his back. What if we who have at one time or another attended and supported assemblies that have had elements of false gospels and now have two pianos on our back with concrete overshoes on out feet and some leg irons and are getting no younger?

Greg Laurie is full of it. He quotes scripture then says he thinks it could be said better, then puts his own spin on it. Horrible! I do think this following verse needs some further clarification for one who believes in once save always saved view. Revelation 3:5 KJV "He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels."

Place your faith in Jesus? The Bible says believe, why do people confuse free will and sovereignty? You don't have free will to choose to believe , but you do have free will to obey or not obey. Belief just is, it is not a choice, but having believed we either cooperate with or rebel against the Holy Spirit. Just read the Bible and you will see that God's people come in a variety of flavors.

First off, the speaker's assumption that Greg Laurie is a Calvinist is incorrect. Laurie has said emphatically that he rejects Calvinism. Personally, I think Greg Laurie very confused about some of his theology, including soteriology. Free will exists, but a natural man (unregenerate soul) only has free will to do that which is in the character of a natural man. (If this isn't true, then Psalms 14:1-3 is false, because it emphatically states that *no one seeks after God* and that *there are none that do good*.) If it is the case that an unregenerate soul can choose salvation, wouldn't that be a good thing? But it says he can do no good. Also, Romans 3:10-18 expounds on Psalms 14:1-3. So, an unregenerate man has free will, but it is subject to the limitations of his unregenerate, or natural, state. However, salvation is not a natural work, but a supernatural work. That work is performed by God and by God alone - salvation is monergistic. The Bible never once suggests that it is the will of any human to be saved (to be in relationship with God) before he is moved by the Holy Spirit and the hearing of the gospel message; the Bible ONLY says that it is *BY THE WILL OF GOD* that someone is saved. (John 1:12-13) An unregenerate soul has no free will to choose salvation, because he is DEAD in his sins (Eph 2), and a dead man can do nothing to bring his dead spirit to life. The raising of Lazarus is a picture of salvation. Do you think Lazarus had a choice when Jesus called him from his dead state? No. It says that Jesus spoke, calling him forth, and Lazarus came forth. There was no choice given. According to the same principle, God has free will, but can do no moral evil, because moral evil is not in the character of God. So, yes, free will exists, but it isn't what most people think it is. R.C. Sproul has put forth some excellent messages on the topic of free will. Find them on KZfaq. Greg Laurie is confused, and not just about the topic of salvation. His eschatology is abysmally wrong and in fact, harmful. He's looking for an Antichrist and rapture that have already occurred in AD66-70.

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Greg Laurie says he rejects Calvinism: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hbWKa72Qzq3Jf6s.html

2 Corinthians 7:10 "For it is godly sorrow that works Repentance leading to Salvation not to be regretted, but the sorrow of the world works death." Luke 24:47 "And that Repentance and Forgiveness of sins will be preached in My name to all Nations beginning at Jerusalem." Luke 18:13 "Lord have mercy on me a sinner" that man went home Justified, says Jesus. Amen, Many will end up 12 inches short of Heaven, the distance between the head and the heart.

I do not agree with Greg Laurie's teachings completely, but it's not for these reasons. You need to understand that the Lord knows who are His why? Because we were with Him in that first earth age, as He said to Jeremiah, I knew you before I formed you in your mother's womb. How did he know him before that? Because he like all His set apart ones were with Him since before the foundations Because His Saints are OF Him. Now yes the Lord is mighty to save and He wishes that none would perish. All souls belong to the Lord All. But the problem is people get predestined, confused with saying God is just being picky and doesn't want to save some or most people. That is just not the case. The Lord says in Ezekiel 18:20 the soul who sins shall die, and in verse 23, He says, " Do I have pleasure at all that the wicked should die?". Please read this passage in Ezekiel 18: 19-32. He makes it very clear in speaking of turning from sin and to live in Him. On another note, the issues with Greg Laurie and most major Christian churches are the embedded, pressing, and almost forced belief of the fly away rapture doctrine. This is the disagreement I have with this pastor as I'm sure many reading follow this doctrine as I once did this is a far more crucial topic in the church for the latter times we're in, this will be a major reason for the great apostasy in the Christian church. Blessings to all in Christ Jesus Amen 🙏. Remember satan comes first then the real messiah and the Lord expects to find His Saints standing faithful even to the end, we may not suffer the Lords wrath, but those remnant may suffer the antichrist persecution and tribulation. Stay bold in the Lord friends Amen 🙏.

The three steps are works.dont exclude puritan amishness men of the nite

I dont think Greg Laurie is a Calvinist. He was a disciple of Chuck Smith and mentored by Billy Graham.

You better lay down your life, give up your ways, ask Jesus forgiveness & to lead your life, & become as his servant, following his guidance for your life, doing his will in this world, rather than your own. You better do a little work, making amends for your sins. "Belief" is only the beginning of relationship. Many are led to believe themselves saved just by their "belief" & faith, while never trying at all to follow the shepherd, never being washed clean by him, never changing their path, but instead still playing God over their own life, doing as they see fit. Even the enemy has "belief" in the Christ, but he refuses to lay down his life & follow him.

You can never be unborn again.1Peterv22-22 This apostasy from the Christian faith. This is an intellectual knowledge of Christ it's not in their hearts. Romans 10v10. Fallen man has a free will to commit any sin he wants. Ye must be born again.

This is such a wicked teaching. The gospel is GOOD NEWS. For God so loved the WORLD He gave His only begotten Son. How is salvation by lottery ticket good news? Oh sorry friend, God didn't choose you so it's impossible to be saved, sorry you're gonna have to burn in hell forever. Jesus died for ALL the world. He paid for ALL the sins of the world. He didn't just die for religious hypoctites who think they're good enough for heaven. God died for anyone who will believe in Him. For whosoever will believe shall be saved. Some people will believe and won't serve God in this lifetime. They're still saved. Some people will believe and serve God with everything they have. Yet others will be somewhere inbetween.