Pastor Reacts to Greg Laurie 02 | "5 tests to see if you are really saved!"

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10 ай бұрын

Greg Laurie provides 5 tests to see if you are really saved. Pastor Jesse addresses each point in detail using the scripture. !!! We do not wish to degrade the man, but we only desire to point out the flaw in his teachings !!!
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@MikejHamel
@MikejHamel 10 ай бұрын
I know I'm saved because of what Jesus did for me, that I believe he did it, not because of anything I do or dont do.
@zaharishtonov
@zaharishtonov 10 ай бұрын
Amen! 🙏🏻🙌🏻
@Rileyed
@Rileyed 3 ай бұрын
We know bc the witness. His spirit bears witness with our spirit that we are sons of God.
@dirkh.matthee7099
@dirkh.matthee7099 5 ай бұрын
I think it was in my first year after being saved. I was really still a baby in Christ and seeking teaching, so that I could grow, when I came accross Greg Laurie's sermons. I had been dealing with (and still am) depression and, while watching one of his sermons, he uttered the following words "If you have no joy, you are not saved". I looked at Mr Laurie and thought to myself "Sir, you are preaching to a congregation of thousands of saved people, amongst whom there are no doubt hundreds of people dealing with daily struggles of depression and anxiety who have no experiential feelings of joy, whom you are now categorically classifying as unsaved" I have never watched him again. He is preaching a different gospel.He is a calvinistic preacher of works and a constant inspector thereof in others. The arrogance of this man is astounding!!!
@BibleLine
@BibleLine 5 ай бұрын
Thanks brother! We’re doing a series on mental health this year. The first episode is on our channel from 2 weeks ago. Maybe this can help with your depression struggles. Obviously our main point is the gospel of grace! Nonetheless, we realize many are truly struggling, and telling they are unsaved is absolutely ridiculous. - Trent
@dirkh.matthee7099
@dirkh.matthee7099 5 ай бұрын
@@BibleLine Thanks Trent, I will definitely check it out. Keep preaching the Truth like pastors Cucuza and Arnold do! I really regret having listened to the likes of Sproul, MacArthur, Piper & Co in the past, but it served a great learning purpose. Blessings and agape from South Africa. Regards, Dirk
@daniellim8964
@daniellim8964 2 ай бұрын
If you truly love God, it is about how you let God love you by changing the very core of your being, to want what is right from inside out.
@Classyconservative1321
@Classyconservative1321 7 ай бұрын
I'm so glad my husband introduced me to this channel. Before I was constantly anxious wondering if ai was really saved. Now I am secure in my salvation and use my lifeas a testament to the power of grace and faith to bring others to Christ while we wait for the blessed hope
@BibleLine
@BibleLine 7 ай бұрын
Praise God! That is so awesome! I have enjoyed your comments, and I pray you continue to serve the Lord faithfully. May God richly reward you for sharing the truth to others! - Trent
@follow_the_way
@follow_the_way 19 күн бұрын
Salvation in Christ starts when one hears the gospel of Christ. A brief summary of this gospel is that it consists of things we must believe, commands that we must obey to be saved, and promises of God that we will receive after salvation. This gospel of Christ tells us about what Jesus did for all humans on the cross as our Lord, God, and Savior. Once a person hears and believes in what Jesus has offered by way of salvation, they must realize their sin, repent of their sins, confess Him as Lord, get water baptized for the forgiveness of their sins, and live obediently to His commands. Here are a few verses that summarize the gospel of Christ. • The gospel must be preached for it is the power of God unto salvation (Mark 16 15; Romans 1 16). • Saving Faith is the direct result of instruction in God's word (John 6 44 and 45; Romans 10 17). • Saving Faith leads to repentance (Acts 2:36-38). • Repentance leads to salvation (2 Corinthians 7:9-10). • When one has repented, turned and confessed his faith in Jesus (Acts 8:37, Romans 10 10), he is then water baptized into Christ (Romans 6:1-6). • This makes one a child of God (Galatians 3:26-27). • 1 John 2:3-4 obey is commandments if you actually KNOW Him.
@DHT317
@DHT317 10 ай бұрын
...I'm so glad you are concentrating on Greg Lourie! I followed him in my young adult life and even attended his Church a couple times when I lived out in CA He never made sense to me... I would listen to him and then read my bible, and it never added up...I even attended a local Calvary Chapel Church.... in short, the problem with him and to a greater extent "Calvary Chapel" is that they believe in "Progressive Sanctification"... not as an encouragement and rewards system that God offers to believers through the exhortation found in scripture, but rather as a mandatory achievement to prove you are saved... big time fruit inspector... = works salvation
@claytontheriault1352
@claytontheriault1352 10 ай бұрын
I've been preaching about this for 4 weeks and still have people send me links to similar "proof you are saved" resources. Sad to see people trusting in their works😢. Great job defending the truth of the gospel.
@jeramishannon5604
@jeramishannon5604 10 ай бұрын
Thank you brother. I left the prosperity gospel. Taught and lived it for years. It's works based and not faith based. I was so tired and relieved when I did. Thank you for exposing this wolf as there are many in this " gospel"......
@darwinapala960
@darwinapala960 10 ай бұрын
We are saved by God's grace and the loving redemption that he did for us on the Cross at Calvary. It's because of what HE did and not ourselves.....
@gem934
@gem934 10 ай бұрын
Amen, thank you Trent and Jesse. Theses false teachers love their corrupted versions because it teaches their false works bad news and to not even cherry pick verses but half a verse, they don’t want any context but their own theology that they want to read into it, twisting, changing the word of God. God bless 🇦🇺
@Smerm
@Smerm 10 ай бұрын
Hi Jesse I just watched your interview of Tom Cuccuzo and subscribed to your channel. I’ve been researching Calvinism and studying the true grace gospel for awhile. So few teach faith alone by backloading works and I’m sadly finding many of the pastors I listen to do this. Greg Laurie has been on my radar for awhile. He’s good friends with Jack Hibbs who I also used to listen to. It seems many Calvary Chapels teach similar things. I recently left my Baptist church because they started teaching Calvinist doctrine, many congregants follow MacArthur and switched to the ESV version. Excited to listen to your content 🙏✝️
@BibleLine
@BibleLine 10 ай бұрын
Thank you so much!! - Trent
@allysonp2254
@allysonp2254 10 ай бұрын
It's really just becoming mind-blowing how many believe this heresy! I was just talking to a sweet elderly widow whose husband was a conservative Baptist minister for decades and she is extremely deceived. How is it so difficult to understand that the Believer has two natures...and that salvation must be by grace alone. It cannot be by grace plus works!
@MichaelBrown-ip2kj
@MichaelBrown-ip2kj 10 ай бұрын
Wow! Thank you Pastor for rightly dividing!
@dirkh.matthee7099
@dirkh.matthee7099 5 ай бұрын
If Works plays any role in Salvation, it means God has to mark on the curve, i.e. Salvation according to each one's works, which means He has no "absolute" standard, which means the standard is "relative", which cannot be as we know the God of the Bible to be a God of absolutes. Absolute Truth, Absolute Love, Absolute Grace, Absolute Forgiveness, etc. His Absolute Standard = Belief in His Son, Jesus Christ
@jonathangolden9299
@jonathangolden9299 10 ай бұрын
I love how Jesus restored Peter.
@daniellelevine9638
@daniellelevine9638 Ай бұрын
11:18 facts. Totally 💯 agree
@AlexLangley88
@AlexLangley88 10 ай бұрын
Matthew 5:16. The purpose of good works is to bring glory to God.
@lilacDaisy111
@lilacDaisy111 19 күн бұрын
14:24 - I was actually wondering what you thought of that verse - Work out your salvation with fear and trembling. Loved hearing the Gospel at the end
@samuelflores9410
@samuelflores9410 6 ай бұрын
I have yet to hear anyone who uses 'habitual sin' in their teaching, quantify what habitual means.
@BibleLine
@BibleLine 6 ай бұрын
Most pull the idea from 1 John 3 or Hebrews 10 (and other places). The term is really what it is; continual, practicing, or [habitual] sin. This is in err, because we need not stop sinning to be saved, nor is stopping sin a proof of salvation. Jesus paid the price for ALL sin, so we just need to believe in Him, in that, He died for us, was buried and is risen again. - Trent
@into-christ
@into-christ 5 ай бұрын
​@@BibleLine "Jesus paid the price for ALL sin"? What do you mean by it?
@Rileyed
@Rileyed 3 ай бұрын
@@BibleLine”and they will call Him Jesus bc he shall save his people from their sins” In the old the blood covered. In the new it purges. Old = by Grace by faith. New = by grace through faith. Doesn’t happen overnight. But we are called to overcome. To take overcoming out = removing the cross = removing grace(saying grace doesn’t overcome Sin)…..enemies of the cross.
@dirkh.matthee7099
@dirkh.matthee7099 5 ай бұрын
Belief in the birth, death, burial and resurrection of Jesus, Son of God and God in flesh = Faith. Faith = Salvation Salvation = Rapture ready Works ≠ Salvation Works = Reward, but only if saved Doing works to be saved = work never finished Therefore unfinished Works = Left behind..so that you can (never) finsh works = paradox of the unbeliever
@dirkh.matthee7099
@dirkh.matthee7099 5 ай бұрын
If Works plays any role in Salvation, it means God has to mark on the curve, i.e. Salvation according to each one's works, which means He has no "absolute" standard, which means the standard is "relative", which cannot be as we know the God of the Bible to be a God of absolutes. Absolute Truth, Absolute Love, Absolute Grace, Absolute Forgiveness, etc. His Absolute Standard = Belief in His Son, Jesus Christ
@randyd9805
@randyd9805 3 ай бұрын
There are really only two major points to First John. If you don't understand that it will lead to error. First John was not written so that you could go out and determine who's "really saved" and who's not. It is written for two reasons. 1. Know you are in Fellowship with God and 2. Know you have or possess Sonship with God which gives solid ASSURANCE of salvation. If you get that as you're reading it will clear a lot of things up. At least it did for me. For example, a believer who SAYS he's in fellowship but hates his brother is lying and not doing the truth. A person who SAYS they have no sin is lying and is not in fellowship with God. I also believe that many of the modern translations that use such words as "continue to sin" or "practice sin" lead to confusion. Can a real born-again person actually continue to sin or practice sins? If you know the Bible you know that a true believer still has the flesh and can yield to it. Will there be consequences? Yes and First John covers some of those consequences of being out of fellowship such as not getting your prayers answered and not having the joy in your Christian life. "These things have I written that your JOY may be full." So, what happens when you sin and don't confess? NO fullness of joy. Another consequence is that we will not have confidence before God when we are disobeying Him and our prayers will not be answered. He that is born of God doth not commit sin. PERIOD. The new nature cannot sin because it is born of God. It does NOT say he that is BORN AGAIN cannot sin. Totally different meaning!
@BibleLine
@BibleLine 3 ай бұрын
Well stated. 100% agree! Thank you. - Trent
@SSNBN777
@SSNBN777 Ай бұрын
Beautifully discerned.
@lawrencerisnerjr.1212
@lawrencerisnerjr.1212 15 сағат бұрын
You are all over the place
@zebra2346
@zebra2346 5 ай бұрын
Thank you Jesse. Biblically, there is only one necessary condition for salvation, and that is faith in Jesus Christ. This list by Laurie is not found in the Bible. It is man-centered theology made up out of thin air. The worst part is that it is a false gospel of works salvation. Tehis kind of works salvation is everywhere, yikes!
@paulgross3067
@paulgross3067 Ай бұрын
Find anything that changes in the flesh when you’re gone, but only born again believers use the spirit in the way where we don’t act on our flesh, but it’s in every day occurrence. It’s like a war.
@ilovelelalou
@ilovelelalou 10 ай бұрын
We keep God's commandments out of graditude for salvation. Jesus said go and sin no more.
@BibleLine
@BibleLine 10 ай бұрын
Yes. - Trent
@lawrencerisnerjr.1212
@lawrencerisnerjr.1212 15 сағат бұрын
1 John 3:9 read it.... Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
@josephimlo2956
@josephimlo2956 6 ай бұрын
Its so difficult not to get mixed into their teachings it's very popular
@Bufforp1ngt0n
@Bufforp1ngt0n 10 ай бұрын
When you look at the book of 1 John, you see him write as a gentle loving grandpa. He says "my little children" many times. 5:13 gives wonderful assurance. So when you see those confusing passages, keep that in mind. He wrote the book to give them joy and assurance. There is one point that I'm confused about though. He uses 3:9, and i do believe that's referring to the two natures as well, but what about the next verse, 3:10? It literally says "in this are the children of God made manifest, and the children of the devil".
@Livingingrace
@Livingingrace 10 ай бұрын
Its very similar to what we see here when Peter thinking and behaving in a carnal way . Mat 16:23 KJV But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men. Not only was Peter in his flesh acting like a child of the devil but was called Satan in that moment. Walk in the Spirit vs walking in the flesh.. These two possiblities can be visually seen/manifest. Hope that helps..
@Bufforp1ngt0n
@Bufforp1ngt0n 10 ай бұрын
@@Livingingrace good point, literally just a few verses before Peter said that, he said "thou art the Christ" and Jesus said "that revelation didn't come from flesh and blood, it came from God". Spirit vs flesh right there.
@Livingingrace
@Livingingrace 10 ай бұрын
@@Bufforp1ngt0n Amen
@davidkarr5119
@davidkarr5119 10 ай бұрын
I believe (1 John 3:9) is talking about two Nature's . Your either Saved or you are lost. No in between. Hope this helps. God bless.🙏🙏🙏
@Rileyed
@Rileyed 3 ай бұрын
People who don’t love or forgive are of Satan.
@longstreet2740
@longstreet2740 3 ай бұрын
Actor Joel Courtney played the role of a young Greg Laurie in 'Jesus Revolution' 2023 ( Kelsey Grammar as Late Chuck Smith ) Use to listen to Greg Laurie for years and most of his teaching seemed sound but when issues of Salvation were presented, there was still 'too much' confusion for my discernment. Unfortunately, most of the 'best' of preachers fail in their discernment and 'rightly dividing' the scripture.
@pamelaoneill7941
@pamelaoneill7941 7 ай бұрын
I have a pastor list I would love for videos to be done on. Jack Hibbs, Billy Crone (has repent of sin on ministry website), JD Farag (especially on James teaching). I have more, but these have large followings and I need another credible source besides Gregg Jackson.
@winterpatriot1429
@winterpatriot1429 9 ай бұрын
Only 1 test necessary - did you believe the Gospel, that Jesus Christ shed His blood and died for you, was buried, and rose on the third day for your justification? Don’t complicate it, Gregg.
@baconhair5609
@baconhair5609 Ай бұрын
YAH bless you brother Jesse. These false teachers take most of verses out of context.
@user-he9qp4zv6q
@user-he9qp4zv6q 10 ай бұрын
So sad to hear man's philosophy in a jumbled, confused manner and trying to justify his beliefs using the "Bible". Thank you bro. Jesse for setting the record straight from the KJV. So simple and true!
@erikbergum2586
@erikbergum2586 10 ай бұрын
The only conviction that leads to faith in Jesus for salvation is rejection from Christ. After a person is saved, the Holy Spirit still would convict people of sin. This one leads to God's restoration and back into Fellowship with him. Process of santification. Not to keep nor maintain our salvation.
@gwengwen4535
@gwengwen4535 10 ай бұрын
Amen!!
@Redo12able
@Redo12able 10 ай бұрын
Despite this depiction of Laurie, he is obviously a man of God. What really bugs me about Christians who continually doubt their salvation, is that it is the ultimate insult to Jesus.. The question is, "What does he have to do to convince one?" Christians need to realize just how much dirt they are kicking on Jesus.every time they play the violin of, "Am I really saved?" It might help turn the lights on. Good video.
@magicalmike3629
@magicalmike3629 10 ай бұрын
Laurie does not sound like a man of God. He is telling his congregation they have to work their way to Heaven. He is leading all these people to Hell. How does that sound like a man of God??? His 3rd point is nonsense. If sin makes people miserable, they wouldn't to it. People sin because it brings pleasure. Saved or unsaved. He does not know the difference between the flesh birth and the spiritual birth. I know this channel does not want to degrade this man but when you play clips of him preaching and then I see a comment saying he is obviously a man of God, I just got to throw it out there. His 5 points of "if you are a believer" means you have to do this or that. I believe the sky is blue. Do I have to do 5 things in order for me to believe that? Believing means BELIEVING. It does NOT mean to do stuff. It simply means to believe something. John 3:16 says "whosoever believeth". It does not say, "whosoever is making sure they are doing these 5 things".
@eldonjohn55
@eldonjohn55 5 ай бұрын
If you believe in something, your actions will confirm what you believe in. Your actions are evidence of what you believe. When we put our faith in Jesus Christ, the Holy Spirit fills us and seals us in the Body of Christ. We are a new creature in Christ. We have a new nature. Unfortunately, our flesh is part of the old nature. This is why Paul addressed the struggles he had between these two natures in Romans 7. If a person is truly saved, they will be convicted and uncomfortable in their sin. And yes, sin is pleasurable for a season, But they dont lose their salvation. They can lose fellowship with the Father until they confess their sins as 1 John 1:9 tells us. Also, good works are the result of salvation, never the cause. Its evidence that we are in Christ. Salvation is a supernatural work of God. Positionally, we are in perfect standing in Christ. In practical speaking, we are a work in progress. This is backed up by Philippians 1:6. Practical sanctification is ongoing in a Christian's life. we'll never be perfect until we receive our new bodies at the rapture. So to wrap up. We dont do good works to maintain our salvation. that would be a violation of Ephesians 2:8-10. We do good works because we are already saved. @@magicalmike3629
@JoelCortez-ps8ow
@JoelCortez-ps8ow 10 ай бұрын
We don't practice sin
@Jesussaves.7777
@Jesussaves.7777 10 ай бұрын
hey brother trent I hope all is well i Thank GOD for y'all ministry I have a question how do I talk to a believer who is struggling with depression, anxiety, and unwanted blasphemous thoughts? They cry all the time sometimes they go through a lot of shame , guilt , and despair. I just want to know how to talk to that believer I did go back to the old testament in Scripture and seen where some of The prophets and men of GOD had even went through sadness, despair, sorrow, suicidal thoughts, guilt , shame , condemnation etc. Our Lord Jesus Christ went through sorrow and sadness too before His death And as I learn from our Lord Jesus Christ He still depended on The Father in Heaven through what He was going through. Even when all the disciples was sleeping and Jesus wanted company before His hour . But it shows when we are alone GOD IS ALWAYS THERE . Put our trust in Jesus Christ to get us through. I know I am weak but when just simply give it to GOD it is better but worrying makes it worse and tiring too . But isolation makes it worse . That's why GOD holds our hand through it all no matter how big or small. But I am going through it myself and didn't want to be saying things but giving to them hope too . But The Heart GOD shows who He is and He is Love not condemning guilting or shaming. the devil is the accuser of the brethren. GOD instills hope into our lives as believers we should remember what Jesus Christ did for us all on the cross. And keep focusing on daily go to GOD in prayer despite the brokenness but GOD is sure to heal us . How do tell that believing brother or sister in Christ who is struggling with assurance and or faith who is having a hard time to go on ?
@BibleLine
@BibleLine 10 ай бұрын
Try this podcast for one. Jesse touched on this a while ago. Then I’ll see about a lengthy response later on. spotify.link/1odHSfYjjDb - Trent
@Jesussaves.7777
@Jesussaves.7777 10 ай бұрын
@@BibleLine thank you brother trent ❤️🙏
@tessaw394
@tessaw394 9 ай бұрын
John 3:36 KJV: He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him. ESV: Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life; whoever does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God remains on him. It’s hard to imagine that believeth and obey are English translations of the same word.
@BibleLine
@BibleLine 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, the better translation is definitely believe. Strong's concordance makes this pretty clear. The KJV is much more trustworthy! - Trent
@corymccutchan5098
@corymccutchan5098 21 күн бұрын
As long as you keep people in doubt; you will keep them coming to you for answers, because there is no assurance of ones salvation. It's a psychological attempt at a subtle control of there peace they should have with Christ. Like the Tithing doctrines they imply for guilt sake. So sad. Whom the Son sets free is free indeed.
@97Napkins
@97Napkins 10 ай бұрын
Without watching I'm going to guess Top 5 without watching drum roll🥁 #5 walk in the spirit and not your flesh #4 your soul is renewed and you have a fervor for the bible. #3 you got baptized in water #2 You confessed with your mouth and words Jesus died and rose again. #1 and my favorite you stopped willful sinning 😂
@BibleLine
@BibleLine 10 ай бұрын
Lol 4/5 relatively close! 🤣 - Trent
@chirho2642
@chirho2642 10 ай бұрын
Firstly you need to read the most accurate version of Gods Holy scripture to interpret scripture. King James throughout the years has rigorously stayed consistent if you do your research. There are many false teachers and preachers these (last of last of days). I'm a laborer in the harvest and I pray the Lord f the harvest will send forth laborers into His harvest for the field is very ripe! Rightly divide the word of truth for Gods word is TRUTH. And come Lord Jesus!!
@lawrencerisnerjr.1212
@lawrencerisnerjr.1212 15 сағат бұрын
Admit when you are wrong
@davidparker7108
@davidparker7108 7 ай бұрын
Can you do a video about that guy that calls himself "Warning the people"
@BibleLine
@BibleLine 7 ай бұрын
If you have a specific video, email it to questions@biblelineministries.org Otherwise, I’ll look into him! - Trent
@davidparker7108
@davidparker7108 7 ай бұрын
@@BibleLine not a specific video - his whole channel. Look into him and let me know what you think. He preaches fear and scaremongering in my opinion. Love your videos Trent, I've been binging on them for days now. You're really great at driving the true gospel message home. I've already shared much of your content
@lm2487
@lm2487 10 ай бұрын
Did Pastor Jesse EVER reach out to Pastor Greg? Did Pastor Jesse ever try and talk to Pastor Greg? Also, I believe most all would DISAGREE with your assertion that Pastor Greg does not get people saved. Recently through the service of Pastor Greg over 7000 people got saved. Please do not continue to falsely accuse others. You are sinning and to bear false witness is one of the worst sins.
@user-bj5br3nv2h
@user-bj5br3nv2h 10 ай бұрын
as paul says, we are slaves to righteousness. or in james how our works justify our faith. the bible says to be perfect and to be holy as he is holy. and that those who continue in sin after receiving grace no longer have a sacrifice for their sins.
@gwengwen4535
@gwengwen4535 10 ай бұрын
But we all sin. And the Bible doesn’t contradict itself, so the scripture needs to be rightly divided.
@user-bj5br3nv2h
@user-bj5br3nv2h 10 ай бұрын
@@gwengwen4535 Matthew 7:22-24 King James Version "22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. 24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock." so even Jesus says that those who work iniquity/lawlessness, even though they think he is their lord and savior, wont enter the kingdom. this shows two things. one, that they thought that their works is what qualified them to be saved, which is wrong as faith is what saves us. the second is that if you have faith in jesus you will not work iniquity. he also says (in Matthew 5:17-20) how he didn't come to destroy the law and the prophets and that those who do and teach even the least of the commandments will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. likewise he said that those who don't do even the least of the commandments will be called least in the kingdom of heaven.
@BibleLine
@BibleLine 10 ай бұрын
Hebrews is very explicit and clear. The sacrifice of Jesus remains, but there is no extra sacrifice needed. We don’t have to keep sacrificing… Ripping Hebrews 10:26 out of context is not correct. - Trent
@user-bj5br3nv2h
@user-bj5br3nv2h 10 ай бұрын
@@BibleLine please look at the other reply i had about matthew 5:17-20. Jesus said hard is the way that leads to life and few are those that find it. even demons believe.
@magicalmike3629
@magicalmike3629 10 ай бұрын
@@user-bj5br3nv2h It doesn't say that in the King James Bible. Matthew 7:14 Because strait is the gate, and NARROW is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. Narrow means only one way. And it's not hard. It's super easy. John 6:47 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life. Sounds easy to me. Nothing hard about that unless you are reading a corrupt Bible.
@97Napkins
@97Napkins 10 ай бұрын
I believe everything he says is correct except that a person can stop believing and be saved. I think it's impossible for a person to have faith and later not believe. Hebrews 11:1 Now faith is confidence in what we hope for and assurance about what we do not see. Assurance and confidence is deep seeded in the person's being and cannot be changed. These people are the ones that have faith and are sealed
@BibleLine
@BibleLine 10 ай бұрын
Every time you sin is a lack of belief in God to certain extent. There is scripture to defend OSAS for those who stop believing, and it isn’t a continuation of belief that keeps us saved. 2 Timothy 2:11-14 “If we believe not, HE abideth faithful; he cannot deny himself…” - Trent
@Jesussaves.7777
@Jesussaves.7777 10 ай бұрын
@@BibleLine Amen brother ❤️🙏
@97Napkins
@97Napkins 10 ай бұрын
@BibleLine Then this would mean the believers that turn toward the antichrist in the end will be saved? I would argue they also are unbelievers in theory
@Jesussaves.7777
@Jesussaves.7777 10 ай бұрын
@@97Napkins it is only by believing on Jesus Christ a person can be saved but by GOD'S Power through The Holy Spirit a believer can finish well meaning that believers needs to (choose) to walk in Christ daily denying himself of the worldly desires or anything that's causing him to not be faithful to Christ or GOD will discipline that believer. But GOD is always Faithful remember sometimes we are not and that shows GOD'S GRACE even more and His Love towards us His Children.
@97Napkins
@97Napkins 10 ай бұрын
@jesusislord7777 Can you ever change religions and or turn from having faith in Christ? The real question is what exactly does it mean to have faith/trust/belief in Christ. If your answer is an impossible no? Then my point is you cannot be an unbeliever and are sealed. Your faith is so a part of you that it has become you. We know the ones that have the mark of the beast are thrown in the lake of fire. How? If some were once believers and now they accept the mark? For revelation shows the saints were still on the earth and were overcome. Revelation is a warning so it doesn't make sense there is a rapture or there would be no need for a warning. Revelation 14:12 speaks of saints keeping there faith in this time. REV 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus. Are we to believe that none that were believers were deceived and recieved the Mark? 🤔 The only thing that makes sense is If the believer was not sealed because his faith is insufficient. How can faith/trust/belief change? I don't think it can! You never had it if you can change!
@BroDaveMartinSRBC
@BroDaveMartinSRBC 17 күн бұрын
From the clips, Laurie is not saying you have to do these things to be saved or stay saved. He’s saying these are evidences or characteristics of a saved person. Are you saying that he is teaching you must do these things in order to be saved?
@terrelltaylor1641
@terrelltaylor1641 Ай бұрын
Mr. Bible line do you love me? Is that because you don’t know me or haven’t spent time with me? With that being said how do we fall in love with our creator if those things HUMANS needs (spending time and knowing) in order to genuinely fall in love with someone or something and he’s not here in actuality.
@edwardlozinsky2969
@edwardlozinsky2969 10 ай бұрын
Although Greg Laurie Through Christ Has Brought Many To The LORD With Harvest Festivals. I Do Not Agree With Most Of His Teachings, He Is Ambiguous At Best And New Believers Should Follow The Guidance Of The HOLY SPIRIT And Not Just To One Pastor. 🙏🙏🙏
@stevergee
@stevergee 10 ай бұрын
all humanity are saved but only faithful believers will be ruling and and reigning with Christ in glorified bodies. 1 Timothy 4:10
@BibleLine
@BibleLine 10 ай бұрын
“Specially of those that believe.” Only those who believed are saved. Notice John 3:18 Why would we need to share the gospel if they are all saved? - Trent
@stevergee
@stevergee 10 ай бұрын
@@BibleLine the gospel invitation is for people to believe, not to be saved. To be co hiers with Christ, to be partakers of Gods Holiness
@Jesussaves.7777
@Jesussaves.7777 10 ай бұрын
@@stevergee at the moment you believe in Jesus Christ and what He did on The Cross for your payment for your sins then at that moment you are saved and you are sealed with The Holy Spirit until the Day of Redemption. No one is saved outside of Jesus Christ Jesus says that He is The Way The Truth and The Life No one can go to The Father in Heaven except through Him/ Jesus Christ. Believe in His death burial Resurrection . It nothing we can do to save ourselves Only through believing in Jesus Christ that we are Saved. His Powerful Innocent Precious Blood wasn't shed for nothing.
@stevergee
@stevergee 10 ай бұрын
@@Jesussaves.7777 It was shed for all mankind, that is what I'm saying, all whose names written in the book of life will go one to live on the new earth. Only non humans, fallen angels, demons and hybrids, go into the lake of fire. With the exception of those who were blotted out of the book of life, they would also be cast into the lake of fire. But on the new earth we also will have a terrible place where many Believers will be confined to, and that is called outer Darkness. You know what that place is like. But for the faithful and chosen believers there will be the Holy City , The New Jerusalem where we will abide with God Himself when He comes to live with us for all eternity.
@Jesussaves.7777
@Jesussaves.7777 10 ай бұрын
@@stevergee not sure what you meant by " hybrids" or that someone knows what outer darkness " looks like" But Only believers of Jesus Christ will go to Heaven because we believe in what Jesus Christ did for all our sins on the cross as a payment for our sins for Salvation. It's really that simple either you believe in Jesus Christ alone for Salvation or you don't believe in Jesus Christ alone for Salvation. Period.thats it
@mikefoley6397
@mikefoley6397 10 ай бұрын
Many people add Jesus to their lives but they never get around to making Him Lord and Savior, thus, they are not Born-Again and they are not saved. Please, gently share God’s truth with these people and continue to pray for them so they may truly come to the saving knowledge of Jesus Christ.
@BibleLine
@BibleLine 10 ай бұрын
This is not true. Once a person believes, they are saved. Once saved, they are saved forever. - Trent
@Jesussaves.7777
@Jesussaves.7777 10 ай бұрын
" making Him Lord and Savior" is not what should be taken in here We cannot " make " GOD do anything. we are flawed man. GOD offered us all ( the world) His Only Begotten Son/ Jesus Christ. John 3 16 says " For GOD so Love the world that He gave His Only Begotten Son that whosoever BELIEVETH in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life " The keyword here is (BELIEVE) That we all believe on The Lord Jesus Christ to be saved in by what Jesus did on The Cross for the payment of all our sins. Once we believe we are Saved and sealed with The Holy Spirit until the Day of Redemption.
@mikefoley6397
@mikefoley6397 10 ай бұрын
I truly hope and pray that you read this to the end. This Calvinism (limited atonement) is a bad teaching that contradicts so many verses in the Bible that John MacArthur and several others need to stop teaching that the True and Living God of the Bible does not give man a choice. Clearly there are four kinds of "saved" people in the Bible. 1. The Chosen. 2 The Elect. 3. The Predestined. 4.Those That Will Come. Otherwise, you have to believe that Jesus was not being forthcoming when He clearly invites anyone and everyone to come to Him in the Gospel of John 7 vs 37-39 Now on the last day, the great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried out, saying, “If anyone is thirsty, let him come to Me and drink. The one who believes in Me, as the Scripture said, ‘From his innermost being will flow rivers of living water. But this He said in reference to the Spirit, whom those who believed in Him were to receive; for the Spirit was not yet given, because Jesus was not yet glorified.Also, in 2nd Peter 3 v 9 God could not be more clear when He says, "My desire is that none should perish but all come to REPENTANCE"! John Ch 5 v 39 Jesus says this. You search the Scriptures, for in them you think you have eternal life; and these are they which testify of Me. BUT YOU ARE NOT WILLING to come to Me that you may have life. Does that sound like we do not have a choice? Jesus makes it clear that they can choose Him but they clearly MAKE A CHOICE BY NOT BEING WILLING TO COME TO HIM! Matthew 23 v 37…Jesus says, “Jerusalem, Jerusalem, who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her! How often I wanted to gather your children together, the way a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you were unwilling. Sounds like they had a choice to me. Ezekiel 35 v 11...Say unto them: 'As I live, saith the Lord God, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but that the wicked turn from his way and live. Also it says in Matthew Ch 22 vs 14 that "many are called but FEW ARE CHOSEN"! You have to leave out "tons" of scriptures and twist "tons" more to come to the conclusion that God does not give man a choice. Don't forget, since the beginning God has given man a choice. Anyone ever heard of Adam and Eve? How about Joshua? Joshua 24 v 15…Didn't he say, "choose you this day whom you will serve. As for me and my house, WE CHOOSE THE LORD! This I hope these next verses are the clincher. John: Ch 8 vs 23-24, Jesus is speaking to the Pharisees that want to kill Him. Again now, Jesus said to them, “You are from beneath; I am from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world. Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; for if you do not believe that I am He, you will die in your sins.” Now, does that not convince you that Jesus truly believes that the evil Pharisees that are plotting to kill Him STILL CAN BE SAVED IF THEY WILL CHANGE THEIR MINDS AND START BELIEVING THAT HE IS THE SON OF GOD AND THE SAVIOR OF THE WORLD.
@BibleLine
@BibleLine 10 ай бұрын
We agree with everything you said except for the “4 types of saved people.” Everyone is saved the same way; faith alone in Christ alone for the payment of their sin. We aren’t Calvinists. - Trent
@sethsims812
@sethsims812 10 ай бұрын
you're not clearing anything up for me.
@Jesussaves.7777
@Jesussaves.7777 10 ай бұрын
What do you mean? he used The Bible/ The Word of GOD to combat what greg was saying . We must understand that we should read Scripture in context and rightly divide The Word of Truth. Scripture speaks for itself. No interpretation needed but just be willing to accept GOD at His inerrant and infallible Word . His Word Stands Forever .
@Jesussaves.7777
@Jesussaves.7777 10 ай бұрын
either you believe GOD or lying man. LET GOD BE THE TRUTH AND EVERY MAN A LIAR
@perrygoodman1931
@perrygoodman1931 10 ай бұрын
Laurie is a heretic for sure
@scottmayor7799
@scottmayor7799 10 ай бұрын
Hes not twisting anything. Quit causing division and throwing stones
@BibleLine
@BibleLine 10 ай бұрын
No one is throwing stones. We attack what he says, not his character. We explained this in the first video. Watch the whole thing. Greg Laurie does not line up with the scriptures. - Trent
@Jesussaves.7777
@Jesussaves.7777 10 ай бұрын
We are as believers supposed to defend The Word of GOD because how many sheep are out there that will be eaten by wolves. Both the Saved and the lost will be effected by false teaching and those who teach it . That's why The Bible warns us all to stay away from them. So it is evident in that of Scripture that we should also be warning others too about false teachers and doctrine.
@scottmayor7799
@scottmayor7799 10 ай бұрын
Well you're attacking your Christian brother! I don't fully agree with the teaching of any pastor, including yours, yet I still love and respect you. We have all fallen short of the Glory of God and no man teaches to perfection. Even Peter, a personal disciple of Christ, denied his Savior. You should be ashamed of yourself. Instead, focus on utilizing your energy and the gifts God has blessed you with to edify the body.
@Jesussaves.7777
@Jesussaves.7777 10 ай бұрын
@@scottmayor7799 I was only saying that do the fact check yourself in The Bible.period . No man should be truer than ALMIGHTY GOD so go to the very source. test that spirit.
@BibleLine
@BibleLine 10 ай бұрын
If Greg Laurie believes what he preaches, then he isn’t saved… therefore he is not my brother in Christ… - Trent
@paulgross3067
@paulgross3067 Ай бұрын
The only evidence is what Jesus did because we’re not saved by what we do
@lawrencerisnerjr.1212
@lawrencerisnerjr.1212 15 сағат бұрын
You are wrong on this one
@rodfriesen245
@rodfriesen245 8 ай бұрын
You guys are both saying the same thing.
@BibleLine
@BibleLine 8 ай бұрын
How so? - Trent
@alfredcorralesiii6660
@alfredcorralesiii6660 10 ай бұрын
You should be up on a pulpit preaching the Word,not up on a high horse!
@BibleLine
@BibleLine 10 ай бұрын
He does preach from a pulpit lol. Look at our “Live” section. What do you mean by “high horse?” And why? - Trent
@Jesussaves.7777
@Jesussaves.7777 10 ай бұрын
pastor jesse is not preaching on a " high horse" Because he is not exalting himself above GOD'S WORD and going by his own knowledge. he is simply using GOD'S WORD to expose false teaching and doctrines. It is imperative that we understand what Scripture says and rightly divide The Word of Truth Scripture speaks for itself. He is Only speaking what is in The Bible. GOD'S WORD tells us what we should know not from man to man to know about GOD. But GOD/ The Bible to man to know about GOD . Just look in The Bible for yourself and see if he is telling the Truth or not .
@Helloytube
@Helloytube 10 ай бұрын
Jude 1:20-21 is proof text OSAS is not true
@BibleLine
@BibleLine 10 ай бұрын
There is no doubt the believers in Jude are sanctified in Christ. The admonition is to contend for the faith and continue in his love. Their salvation is not even in question here. - Trent
@Helloytube
@Helloytube 10 ай бұрын
@BibleLine it says keep yourselves in God's love as you wait for the mercy of Jesus to bring you eternal life; this implies you must stay in the faith. I'm not arguing anybody loses salvation. I'm arguing you receive the gift of eternal life by maintaining your faith in Christ
@lm2487
@lm2487 10 ай бұрын
I am so disappointed in Pastor Jesse. Pastor Greg is an excellent pastor, with decades of service to God & his church. To be falsely accused of being a Calvinist is a sin. Pastor Jesse is bearing false witness against his fellow pastors. I have never met a pastor who behaves so poorly. One thing I am sure of, there will be consequences to this slanderous behavior. Pastors do not criticize each other. It is not their place to do that. I believe that that kind of behavior is not necessary. There are other ways to police any profession, and public accusations without even talking to the person in question is horrible. I would never listen to anything Pastor Jesse says again. This channel has become a horror show.
@mikelyons2831
@mikelyons2831 4 ай бұрын
Interesting. I'm a Pastor in my 60s & appreciate Jesse doing Romans 16:17-18.
@pfister2020
@pfister2020 8 ай бұрын
So if i say I love my wife but I beat her,cuss at her,and treat her horribly. Would you say I love her. No you would call me a liar. If I say im a Christian, But by my actions I don't live like one. I go to church on Sunday and live how i want the rest of the week. Getting drunk, lying, looking with lust,porn, having sex out of marriage,gossiping, hating, cussing. living foe self not God. You would be called a liar. And that is what 1john says. 2 chronicles 7 if my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin. A person that has been born of God cannot loose there salvation. The parable of the sower shows this. The seed that fell on the wayside and was eaten ny birds are people that reject the gospel. The seed on rocky ground and seed in thorny ground here it and think its great.but when troubles or riches or pleasure come they fall away. These are the ones who are in love with the world. They are people pleasers not God pleasers. Proud hearts. They were not born again. The seed(gospel) that fell on the good soil. A humble heart. Produced a crop. Produced fruit . They will bring people into the kingdom of God. And they endure till the end and will not fall away they are the truly saved ones . The thorny and rocky hearers. Think they are saved. Never make the Lord there Master. You cannot serve two masters. They are the false converts in the Bible. They never allowed there hearts (soil) to be tilled up by Jesus to do what he wants with there life. They give him one hour a week on Sunday and live like the devil all week long. People who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of heaven. Why do you call me Lord but do not do as I say. These people call themselves Christians but continue to live with these things in the hearts. The proverbs are true a dog returns to his vomit and sow to the mud. These false christians are the 5 foolish virgins,the bad with the good fish, the tares among the wheat. They claim to know God but by there actions deny him. you false teacher. You are making more false converts by your teachings. Example of what you say. Just believe you can still sin and live like the devil,you shouldn't though. You should try to fellowship and try not to sin,but remember you believe. So when God warns them to them to turn from sin and come to him. because they will burn in hell. You tell them that voice there hearing is from the devil. Its God warning them because they are false Christians. You don't have to tell a True Christian not to live in willful sin,read the Bible,go to church, evangelize. Thats why Christians will do as Jesus did. But you pervert it and say thats discipleship, a unregenerate heart does not want to be a disciple. They don't want to read the Bible and follow the Word with all there heart . If you have not made Jesus your master and Lord you are a false convert, you are self decieved. Repent of your sins and surrender to the King of Kings and Lord of Lords. We are the Laodecian church. Luke warm and God is going to spew it out of his mouth into lake of fire. The path is narrow and few find it. Jesus didn't tell the rich young ruler to believe. He told him to sell everything and follow him. Give up your dreams,sin, and will to him. The second you do that thats when you Will be delivered from death to life. When you surrender all to him he will cleanse you of all unrighteous ness. He will give you purpose. You will do anything to please him. You won't justifying your sins anymore,you won't compromise with sin. You will follow him wherever he wants you to go..
@wib50
@wib50 3 ай бұрын
In you example of a marriage, is their a blood sacrifice for sins or failures anywere?
@pfister2020
@pfister2020 3 ай бұрын
@@wib50 I'm not talking about marriage necessarily. It was example of how actions speak louder than words. When a person is born of God John says they will not continue to practice sin. They will still sin but will not live in sin.willful disobedience is unbelief Jesus said if you love me, keep my commands. When a person meets Jesus it changes them. I hate sin now but before I Jesus gave me mercy I loved fornicating drinking drugs tobacco porn money, everything this world offers. That's why when you are saved you are delivered out of this world. It doesnt have a hold on you anymore. Any one who practices sin or hates a brother does not know God, John says. This is how we know who is of God and who is of the devil. When we are set free we will be Free of the chains of sin and death. The day I die will be the best day of my life. I will meet Jesus again and be with him forever. If a person hasn't met Jesus and been forgiven in this life, they won't want to meet him after they die. Cause they will still be in their sins and not forgiven. Heb 10:26 If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, 27 but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God. 28 Anyone who rejected the law of Moses died without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. 29 How much more severely do you think someone deserves to be punished who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, who has treated as an unholy thing the blood of the covenant that sanctified them, and who has insulted the Spirit of grace? 30 For we know him who said, “It is mine to avenge; I will repay,”[a] and again, “The Lord will judge his people.”[b] 31 It is a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
@wib50
@wib50 3 ай бұрын
@pfister2020 1st john does not say at all what you said. It says one born of God " cannot sin" also you clearly saying we gain justification before God by our actions, wich is works or self rightiosnes for salvation.
@pfister2020
@pfister2020 3 ай бұрын
@@wib50 I think you need to re read,123 John. They are tests to see if you are in the faith. Tell me when did you meet Jesus. That is when you are converted, brought from death to life. Justified. When did you repent. Whoever loses their life will gain it. Are you a disciple?
@wib50
@wib50 3 ай бұрын
​@pfister2020 met Jesus nd and repented when I saw that salvation was only possible by his sacrifice and shed blood so I asked him to save this way. And yes I am a disciple. Did you acually watch the vid.
@tylerpedersen9836
@tylerpedersen9836 9 ай бұрын
Embarrassing reaction, honestly. From the get-go, when you say, “working for vs working from salvation” is just “clever word play.” The two couldn’t be more different. And then you suggest Laurie is a Calvinist. this is sloppy stuff and does nothing to build the Body.
@BibleLine
@BibleLine 9 ай бұрын
The claim is that if there are no works after believing, then the individual was never saved. That is not faith alone. “Faith alone but that faith is never alone.” Is “clever wordplay” from the Calvinist. - Trent
@tylerpedersen9836
@tylerpedersen9836 9 ай бұрын
Do you think it’s possible for someone to believe the gospel without being changed?
@BeiNacht
@BeiNacht 9 күн бұрын
I liked Greg Laurie’s rapture sermons, but perhaps he himself won’t be raptured
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