AMEN!!!!!!

Exactly. Same to Job , Abraham and many others.

Yes, and he did it again when he separated himself from converted gentiles by fear. ( Yes after the filling of the Spirit)

I think the 12 apostles haven't received the Holy Spirit yet that's why they failed.

They didn't trust Jesus with their lives because they thought Jesus failed to delivered them from Rome, but then after Jesus rose on the third day and appeared to them after that they believed and then they trusted their lives to Jesus and to follow him and listen to him because they believe he is the Christ

That is why Jesus called us to Him and not organised religion.

Yes! We feel your grief. Thank you for your kind encouragement. - Trent

They’re still saved. Simon is in heaven… his issue was desiring the same power of the apostles through the purchasing of it. Saved people still mess up; especially baby believers. - Trent

Yes, surely saved people still have capacity to lie and do lie. It doesn’t mean it’s okay, but it surely happens. Your sin nature doesn’t go away after you believe. The part of the believer that goes to heaven is the new spirit nature that is born of God. It doesn’t sin. We aren’t perfect! Every sin is condemned. - Trent

Once saved always saved sounds like grace apart from works read your New Testament but this time with your eyes open and your brain engaged

The Calvanist view of the elect isn't far from the Jehovah's witness doctrine, the JW's just put a number on it.

Isn't that the truth? Like to see him give up all those mansions and live a simple life! After all, isn't he supposed to sacrifice all that has and give it to the poor? L. A. is so impoverished... What about them?

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You've clearly never listened to McArthur

We have listened to multiple sermons as well as read his works. Respond with some substance. - Trent

I believe the persevering to the end referred to the saints during the 66-70 AD civil/,Roman war as the Olivet Discourse was about this time, NOT in the future. Learn Historicist Bible prophecy truth from David Nikao Wilcoxson!

Jesus says it’s the latter days. There are details in Matthew 24-25 that have NOT been fulfilled yet. - Trent

It’s the perpetual never ending circle… of doubt. Horrible way to live.

Yes! God bless you Jeremy. Thank you for your support. - Trent

​@@BibleLineThe assurance is from God. Faith is what pleases God. Our faith will be tested. No ones faith is not tested and most of us fail but He is faithful and patient and longsuffering. Galatians 5:22

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That worked! I was using the name of the pastor before. Thank you!@@BibleLine

We found that clip. Reacting to it down the road! - Trent

Which is insanity. They trust TULIP more than the Bible. Eph. 1:12-14. “Trusted in Christ” THEN “sealed with the Spirit.” - Trent

We have the Facebook reel in the bio, but digging out the sermon is difficult. I can try to find it. Most of our react content is sent by our viewers. - Trent

So good! So clear! Thank you for exposing false teaching with the truth of the Bible. Our salvation is not determined on feelings or passing tests but on the authority of God’s word

It’s on the chopping block. Lots of content in our future. Getting to filming is the part that takes time haha! Short answer: This portion is not about being cut off from salvation. Notice ALL Israel was set to the side for the Gentiles to come into play. God isn’t finished with Israel - please don’t misconstrue me - but it’s about his choosing for a purpose. Majority Israel rejected and rejects him today, so they were “cut off” from being used to continue his purpose. God would now use the body of Christ (the church - those who believe) to carry out his work. This doesn’t mean many Jews stopped being saved… The warning is to the Church (Jew and Gentile) that we should be careful as believers to not make the same mistakes as Israel did. The portion of scripture from Romans 9-11 need be carefully and slowly examined. There is no tenant of Calvinism or Catholicism found on this passage. There is only cherry-picking to form doctrines and traditions of men. - Trent

Thank you for your speedy reply Trent! I completely agree and people tend to comeup with these erroneous interpretations because they do not believe the simple Gosepl of believing on CHrist alone for salvstion and that eternal life means forever. And anti-semite Steven Anderson insists there is no national salvation for Israel when Romans 11:26 says All Israel shall be saved. Seems pretty clear. @@BibleLine

Exactly. God is most definitely not done with Israel! The entire tribulation prophecy is predominantly concerning Israel. Thank you for holding fast to the word of God. We’ll keep bringing content! - Trent

That's is not what is being said. When a believer lives in sin they can forget assurance I think also because sin leads to more sins and a believer can get so far down in sin that they forget that they are a believer becoming lukewarm and not being useful and losing fellowship with GOD Also GOD will take away their peace and joy from them they can actually go further because of their mindset and become insane as well I believe. We all need peace and joy. If GOD takes that away life will feel really numb , cold , dark and lonely. Even though we still have The Holy Spirit we will still suffer loss. As believers we are Saved. But would be losing more on earth and loss of Rewards in Heaven. Remember as Believers if we're being disobedient we can get sick or lose our life early but still be saved. There is no such thing as " evidence of being saved or salvation" It's if a person believe that Jesus Christ alone paid for all their sins past present future through Jesus's Death Burial and Resurrection . Of what Jesus did on The Cross by shedding of His Powerful Innocent Precious Blood that they have Everlasting life. If they believe that then they are Saved forever. Heaven bound and can be with The Savior Jesus Christ forever. I think you should look up what apostate means it is not the same as reprobate . Apostate means that someone who believes fell away from The Faith. But not going to hell. Reprobate is someone who never believed at all on Jesus Christ. These people are headed for destruction. I myself ( fell away) but came back. Read in The Bible on the PRODIGAL son. I am a believer I am a child of GOD I am on my way to Heaven forever. Because I had put my faith / trust and belief in what Jesus Christ did for me on The Cross by His death, burial ,Resurrection and the shedding of His Powerful Innocent Precious Blood on the cross as the payment for all my sins past, present ,future. Because I BELIEVE I know that I have EVERLASTING/ ETERNAL LIFE. 🐑 Praise and Thanks to GOD. ❤️🙏🙌🙌 Romans 8:33-39 can sink in. POWERFUL.

We must read Scripture in context always.

You have a choice to make in loving your brother. You choose to walk in the Spirit. It’s commanded according to scripture: Gal. 5:16-17, 1 John 4:10-12 - Trent

Faith as a grain of mustard seed. Faith as a child. Hmmm It isn’t a battle hardened 30 year faith in your perseverance that saves… - Trent

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I think he deleted his comment. Lol

Frankly, the NIV is a watered-down elementary school, superficial presentation of the Greek text. So very loosely "translated" with not too subtly imposed elements of doctrinal presupposition. The NASB, on the other hand, is arguably the most literal version available aside from a Greek-English interlinear version. Keep in mind that any and all "commentaries" are nothing more than that: COMMENTaries. MacArthur is adequate if you are a 5-point Calvinist, a Dispensationalist, and a Cessationist. You can do much better.

@@georgefisher8610 Ok. Thanks for your help. I hope that I don’t hurt my friend’s feelings when I return it, but honesty is the best policy; especially if I want to call myself a follower of Jesus. No point starting off on the wrong foot. NASB; no commentary. Got it. 👍🙏 Do you think that the Presbyterian Church is a good place to help me understand the bible, or should I go it alone so that I don’t get confused by other people’s teachings?

@@georgefisher8610 PS. Can I ask you what you mean by 5 Point Calvinist, Dispensationalist and Cessationist. Are they different churches like Catholic, Presbyterian, Mormon, JWs, Muslim, Baptist, etc? Goodness, there are a lot to choose from.

@djpodesta May I get back to you a bit later, say, tomorrow? I am at work on a short break. I will be happy to explain those terms. As far as the NIV, you might keep it as an occasional reference. It will give you something of the "gist" of a passage for the time being... As a quick note, however, those three categories" refer to some doctrinal issues, which while certainly important are not vital at this point to your understanding, appreciating, and following the gospel in His footsteps. Blessings, and take care.

@@georgefisher8610 Thanks George. I appreciate you taking the time to share with me. I will also look up the terms to see what you mean as I am curious about how the Christians can allow this MacArthur person to explain their bible if he is a false teacher. I imagine that there should be Christian guidelines to ensure that everybody understands the same thing. Hmmm, but given that there are all these different names of churches, maybe God allows people the freedom to believe what they want, as long as they say the prayer and feel bad about what happened to Jesus. It is funny how everybody seems to say that following Jesus is straight forward, but it seems a little more complicated than that. I guess they only say that so that they get you in the door of their church. I will be asking my friend about the things that I learnt today because she just said that I was to pray, repent from my current world view, read the bible and go to a good church. She goes to the Presbyterian Church, so I just assumed that it must be ok, as she is a very honest person. But now I remember all these other church names.

I’ve also read this part of 1 Peter. Honestly, I could see that this passage is referring to those who has true faith in Christ when it comes to trusting in His work on the cross. Many people believe on Christ for the wrong reasons. They might believe in Christ thinking it’ll get them rich, thinking they’ll have good health, thinking life will be easier. They come to Christ due to their own fleshly desires. And when a trial hits, they walk away because their fleshly desire isn’t getting fulfilled. Why do you see people who walk away from God cause they believed in a prosperity gospel someone preached to them, or they had a false assumption of what the gospel and life with Jesus offered. Real Christian’s believe on Christ simply for salvation and nothing else. Not for fleshly desires. They understand that their life can honestly take a hard left even after putting faith in Christ. Im open to rebuke, but as I said before, many put their faith in Christ for the wrong motives. They think life will be sweet but thats only the flesh talking.

I’m still not onboard with the Calvinism thing however. The flatly definition of Calvinism makes no sense.

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@@Sergio-xs7zq what is so funny?

@@seannickerson5730 John MacArthur is like the antichrist to charismatics

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The link is in the description. We were sent it from a friend. We would gladly chat with him. - Trent

My point is, this is not the kind of thing JM would say.@@BibleLine

He said it though. He believes this alongside the TULIP doctrines. He’s a total works-proof salvation Calvinist. - Trent

So you don't think that if you are saved that your life should show it? Doesn't the Bible support this concept? Both 1st and 2nd Peter are full of this idea, unless I didn't understand what I read, which is always possible.@@BibleLine

A believer’s life should show it, but the life they live is not a proof they are saved. Jesus Christ’s shed blood is proof in saved. I believed, therefore I am saved. 1 John 5:10-13 - Trent

Lordship Salvation with Calvinism essentially. He leans on Calvinist teachings, but he’ll often mix in Lordship views too. They basically go hand in hand - Trent

There is no such thing as " evidence of being saved or salvation" That is called"fruit checking/ fruit inspecting" It is either you believe in Jesus Christ alone or not. Period It's if a person believe that Jesus Christ alone paid for all their sins past present future through Jesus's Death Burial and Resurrection . Of what Jesus did on The Cross by shedding of His Powerful Innocent Precious Blood that they have Everlasting life. If they believe that then they are Saved forever. Heaven bound and can be with The Savior Jesus Christ forever. I think you should look up what apostate means it is not the same as reprobate . Apostate means that someone who believes fell away from The Faith. But not going to hell. Reprobate is someone who never believed at all on Jesus Christ. These people are headed for destruction. I myself ( fell away) but came back. Read in The Bible on the PRODIGAL son. I am a believer I am a child of GOD I am on my way to Heaven forever. Because I had put my faith / trust and belief in what Jesus Christ did for me on The Cross by His death, burial ,Resurrection and the shedding of His Powerful Innocent Precious Blood on the cross as the payment for all my sins past, present ,future. Because I BELIEVE I know that I have EVERLASTING/ ETERNAL LIFE. 🐑 Praise and Thanks to GOD. ❤️🙏🙌🙌 Romans 8:33-39 can sink in. POWERFUL.

It is not up to us to save ourselves. For the wages of sin is death. No one is good no not one. Jesus Christ was The Perfect Sacrifice for sins we can't earn Salvation. we can't be good enough. We cannot lose, earn, or no such thing as "evidence of being saved " We are Saved by Grace Alone through Faith Alone in Christ Alone nothing more nothing less. No one could keep the law the ten commandments. That was the main purpose of Jesus Christ dying for all our sins past present future. We have to be PERFECT LIKE GOD TO GET TO HEAVEN Guess what ? Were not perfect If you commit one sin then you guilty of them all . Who are you putting your trust and Faith in yourself or JESUS CHRIST/ GOD ? If someone feels they have to "work or be good enough to be saved" then that ideal only leads them to destruction because they either don't trust Christ at all or they don't trust Christ Alone with adding obedience, good behavior and works to Salvation.

“Unforsakable faith.” “Whatsoever is not of faith; to him it is sin.” - why does the Bible say this to believers? As though there may be a time in which they lose faith. Every time you sin is a lapse of faith. You aren’t trusting in Him when you sin. - Trent

@BibleLine Actions or lack of actions are separated from what faith is? For example: I can have faith that I'm really alive but still risk my life. I can have faith in my son even though he lives a lifestyle I'm opposed of. Faith is only that and no actions required like baptism, circumcision, not eating certain food, Stopping certain sins. Faith is paramount over actions or lack of actions according to the Bible (imo) but it must be assured. God wants his son fully assured in him with unseeing faith. Imo he never forsakes you if you don't him and lifestyle is different from faith but it has consequences. Reap what you sow imo 👍

Indeed. What say ye?

@@BibleLine For this reason I bow my knees before the Father, from whom every family in heaven and on earth is named, that He would give you, according to the riches of His glory, to be strengthened with power through His Spirit in the inner man, so that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith; and that you, being firmly rooted and grounded in love, may be able to comprehend with all the saints what is the breadth and length and height and depth, and to know the love of Christ which surpasses knowledge, that you may be filled up to all the fullness of God. Now to Him who is able to do far more abundantly beyond all that we ask or understand, according to the power that works within us, to Him be the glory in the church and in Christ Jesus to all generations forever and ever. Amen (Ephesians 3:14-21) LSB

Well I love that scripture! I’m just unsure if you’re saying it because you agree with us or because you agree with MacArthur! Forgive me 🤣 - Trent

@@BibleLine Brother Trent, seems my lot in life is to generate questions. Quoting the LSB is a hint. I’d like to review the video again before further exchange. We’re both probably busy tomorrow but I’ll find time to provide a meaningful response. Blessings!

Jesus commanded believers to do good works and not to unbelievers . James is written to believers on how they should do work towards man. This book has nothing To do with salvation but sanctification. Sinners can't be justified by having Faith towards MAN BUT GOD. The parable of the 10 virgins has nothing to do with the church age believers. The church was a mystery at the time. It has to do with the nation of Israel at the second coming. Pastor Martinez will be rewarded for defending THE GOSPEL OF GRACE, the finished work of Jesus Christ on the cross+NOTHING. Only Him crucified

@@user-tb5gq7kp5u I like that you hide yourself while you muddle your way. Please understand that Jesus spoke that Parable about his wedding feast. (Heaven) What did Jesus say after Peter said that Jesus was the Son of God? "Upon this rock I will build my Church"? The Church wasn't a mystery to the followers of "The Way". What Bible do you read? May I suggest instead of defending someone who is misleading you and instead, reading the word of God? I pray for your peace and understanding, have you heard that the Lord reproves those he wants to save?

@@tonysynnott9875 can you see that Jesus says I will ( The future tense) my church? He used the future tense describing the church, meaning she was not there yet, otherwise Jesus would have used past tense . The church was born on the day of Pentecost, after the finished work of Jesus Christ on the cross, and after the coming of The Holy Spirit, when Jesus is already in heaven. At the time he was still on earth and in his earthly body. Salvation is a free gift, not rewards for any behavior. The lord rebukes his children, not unbelievers.

“Grandstanding.” “Besmurching.” “Hiding.” “Repent and do right!” Wowzers! Did God send you to give us trials? Let the word speak if you’re that confident in your feelings about us. Yes works are encouraged, but works never save. Jesus Christ saves. Eph. 2:8-9. The parable of the wedding has to do with the Kingdom. We are not in the kingdom, but we are in the body of Christ. Paul discerns this clearly in Eph. 3. Salvation is not a bunch of litmus tests, trials and tribulations to see if we somehow make it by the end of our lives. MacArthur’s buddy Sproul found out that didn’t give him any assurance. There is only assurance through the blood of the Savior Jesus Christ. We believe that Jesus Christ died, was buried and is risen again. There is salvation in none other. Acts 4:12, 13:38-39. Works play NO part in salvation. Otherwise you make yourself your savior. Titus 3:5, Gal. 2:16. - Trent

@@user-tb5gq7kp5u Oh my goodness, "You will know them by their fruits"... What then was the work that Jesus did with his deciples during his ministry on Earth? The whole Bible, every jot and tiddle is about our Lord and his attributes. Jesus didn't preach the new Teatament. Go to Genesis and see him there, he is "The word of God."

Free will is the ultimate show of sovereignty by God. Shameful to believe God picks and chooses who goes to heaven and who goes to hell. How do you really know? You don’t according to TULIP. The scripture is clear. 1 John 5:10-13 - Trent

You were in the future when Jesus died. His sacrifice is an eternal sacrifice. James 5:15 is about healing sick people who have been sinning. They get sick cuz they’ve sinned. Therefore the elders pray over them in hopes the Lord may heal them. Jesus died for all sin. He doesn’t withhold his payment until tomorrow comes on the calendar as today. Are you kidding me? You were 2000 years separated when he died for you. - Trent

2Pe 1:9 But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins. Mat 6:14-15 For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you: (15) But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.

@@BibleLine "They get sick cuz they’ve sinned" - impossible to do this if they were already forgiven

1Jn 5:16 If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it.

Gal 6:1 Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted. No need to do this, since he was already forgiven

We talked about Israel on Wednesday service. Check it out in our Live section! - Trent

How do you know the warning is not concerning men like MacArthur? He preaches a false gospel, and he condemns himself by his own teachings. His “gospel” requires works, trials and discipleship as a “proof” that one is saved. There is no “proof” that one is saved through your own good works. Jesus Christ did the work. You believe it. You’re saved. Full stop. 1 John 5:10-13. - Trent

@BibleLine no, he does NOT preach salvation by works in the SLIGHTEST. I can't even begin to fathom what you've listened to that makes you spout such a false accusation. Go listen to his teachings on galatians! You're also clearly uneducated on calvinism and have only studied counter points. I'll have a phone conversation with you if you want, but to go on and argue on comments further proves my point about the warning in thimothy. If McArthur preached salvation by works I would have stopped listening to anything he had to say decades ago.

@BibleLine goodness gracious. I am flabbergasted. Salvation is by faith. True saving faith produces good works. Macarthur was simply saying that if someone struggles with assurance that they've not seen the fruit of their salvation. That fruit is never more clearly put on display than when you're being tested, so to speak. Our salvation is by faith in Christ and nothing else, but I challenge you to produce the proof of YOUR salvation. Show me the certificate. It's only natural that as human beings left to struggle with our nature, which God uses both to remind of who we were/are and as punishment for what we've done/doing, that we would question if we are truly saved or not. Salvation in the bible is explained in many different ways, even by Christ, because not one physical and temporal example can do it justice. Those who God justifies manifest it through faith, perseverance, and obedience in sanctification. Not in a synergistic way as if it was dependent on us, but also not devoid our choice to exercise and express the new life.