Pat Riley Villain Arc (Winning Time)

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2 жыл бұрын

Pat Riley villain arc begins (Fair use all rights go to HBO)

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@jackpelaez5679 2 жыл бұрын

I wouldn’t say it was his Villian arc. It was more of a good move since Jack was having serious health problems. Practically saved his life.

@ANTHONY0808able 2 жыл бұрын

Correct, McKinney himself admitted in later years that he was not ready to coach in the spring of 1980.

@danielstack4158 2 жыл бұрын

@@ANTHONY0808able I can't believe it would even be considered. Buss actually did help McKinney get a job with the Pacers after this.

@romancandle416 9 ай бұрын

It's more of an anti-hero arc than a villain arc. You're right that McKinney was unhealthy and he didn't need the stress of being a coach of the Lakers...but Riley was still pretty gangsta in his maneuvering to oust him and (spoiler alert) later Paul Westhead. As the show progresses, I'm sure the Riley's personal fashion choices will reflect his character arc. He starts the show as a sad, washed-up jock with a schlubby '70s hippie aesthetic. As he gains confidence and power, his gradual transformation to the look we associate him with - slicked back hair and expensive suits - will make alot of sense. This is a good show. Pat Riley is a very interesting human, and Adrien Brody is a good actor is what I'm saying.

@bocat7482 2 жыл бұрын

Riley was the backbone of the season, not a Villain.

@michaelcarrig627 2 жыл бұрын

It is a comedy tv show, not reality.

@kingmufasa1688 2 жыл бұрын

@@michaelcarrig627 it’s not a comedy

@thememeroo178 2 жыл бұрын

@@kingmufasa1688 it’s a dramdey

@patrickgattiker9765 2 жыл бұрын

@@kingmufasa1688 kinda lol

@billygarcia9885 2 жыл бұрын

He can be both! People love a villain show these days.

@coreyf1204 2 жыл бұрын

For anyone that read Showtime by Jeff Pearlman, you know Winning Time is full of fiction. Pat Riley was always grateful to Jack McKinney for laying the foundation of the 80's Lakers, so much so that Riley, while with the Heat, would give tickets for Heat games to McKinney, who spent his final years in South Florida.

@thomasreal4576 2 жыл бұрын

This show has shown that Pat Riley was grateful for Jack and that he also wanted to finish what was started. So if showtime is false then how come they properly portray Pat Riley as being grateful and also a great coach???

@thomasreal4576 2 жыл бұрын

For anyone that's aware of laws and life and reality. If the book was completely false, the author would be in debt and the show wouldn't be able to exist

@coreyf1204 2 жыл бұрын

@@thomasreal4576 Did you read Showtime by Jeff Pearlman?

@chochedx 2 жыл бұрын

It's call dramatization

@krishiv04 2 жыл бұрын

yea i figured that out lmao i knew something felt off. one of the best basketball books i’ve read

@TCT24 2 жыл бұрын

Pat Riley wasn’t a villain, he just knew that him and Westhead were the coaches to take that team to the Finals. You don’t win 50 games by just coincidence. And little did McKinney know, Riley would become one of the greatest coaches of all time.

@mattkominsky7308 Жыл бұрын

Not one. Riley became the greatest coach of all time

@deadlifefr Жыл бұрын

@@mattkominsky7308 facts between him and Pop I don’t think anyone ever did it better.

@6wHeisenberg 10 ай бұрын

@@deadlifefr Zen master did it better than both in my opinion

@bonglee2388 8 ай бұрын

@@6wHeisenbergwtf r u retards on? Basketball's greatest coach is Red Auerbach.

@HarryPotter-jb8pc 8 ай бұрын

@@deadlifefrphil jackson?

@brothadude 2 жыл бұрын

“You first” from my experience that’s definitely Pat hands down

@SynBlades 2 жыл бұрын

100%.

@jaymum23 2 жыл бұрын

I grew up watching Riley’s Knicks and this is an incredible impersonation. Loving this! 👏👏👏

@kylev938 2 жыл бұрын

that's really cool! time sure is a trip.. pat on the knicks, awesome!

@jaymum23 2 жыл бұрын

@@kylev938 I need to binge this series. Not sure if it’ll ever show a future scene from Pat’s 4 years coaching the Knicks in the early 90s, but I’d love it if they did. The show is focused on the Showtime Lakers so I don’t expect it.

@Chaelsonen 7 ай бұрын

the one scene where he punches the blackboard, you almost see him transform into pat, its kind of crazy, I never wouldve even pictured the 2 as similar before this.

@TheBlackKakashi 2 жыл бұрын

When he finally slicks his hair back, that’s when the real story begins

@digontozahid 2 жыл бұрын

Pat riley was the unsung hero of the series ....not the villain....lakers never would have won the title without pat riley

@OH_MY_DOGGG 2 жыл бұрын

Pat Riley is an image that I cannot shake. Thats what a head coach should look like.

@akeme25 2 жыл бұрын

Exactly. The Lakers (in the series) started rolling once Pat Riley became assistant coach

@MrStevePods 2 жыл бұрын

The shot in another episode when they show Riley as his future self is so incredible, and I hope they show that in later seasons.

@suryabahubalendruni2817 2 жыл бұрын

It’s not his future self, it’s his father

@davonjones4672 10 ай бұрын

@@suryabahubalendruni2817 I think he means the scene where he slicks his hair back and looks directly into the camera

@Jiltedin2007 2 жыл бұрын

Only in the eyes of Jack McKinney was Pat Riley a Villain!

@kurtwagner350 2 жыл бұрын

Pat Riley is the best coach ever, dude is a killer

@jackkitchen737 2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely

@MrMomoneyz 2 жыл бұрын

He's also one of the best team presidents.

@timhoward5 Жыл бұрын

💯 FACTS!!!

@foxmccloud7055 Жыл бұрын

Pat Riley is also the Sith Lord of the NBA.

@thatfatguy7591 2 ай бұрын

@@foxmccloud7055bill russel was the black gandalf before he went back to valinor

@mathewsbusiness1263 2 жыл бұрын

This show grew on me..absolutely love it ! 💯

@maineventkrunch2265 8 ай бұрын

Same. It started off really slow and hard to get into but man does it get good.

@adamguerra755 2 жыл бұрын

This was my favorite scene out of the whole series 👏🏼👏🏼💪🏼

@mkc3704 2 жыл бұрын

Same

@SynBlades Жыл бұрын

Every cell in my head feels the real Pat Riley saw Brody say YOU FIRST and it followed a smile if approval.

@JL-ec1by 2 жыл бұрын

Most of the characters in this series were really really close. The Riley character started out maybe too dorky, but he ended up perfect.

@Primenumber19 2 жыл бұрын

Riley was fighting for his professional life here, don’t mind it.

@Drew914 2 жыл бұрын

This series was amazing

@davanmani556 2 жыл бұрын

Pat was a broadcaster for two years not two months when he got the job after Jack’s accident.

@GABRIELA-ACEVEDO. 10 ай бұрын

Can't wait for next week's episode. Looks like next episode will finally be about Pat taking over Paul. We're finally going to see Adrien play "Godfather Pat Riley".

@saineehar6328 2 жыл бұрын

Definitely rewatch worthy

@bobbysbluebooster 2 жыл бұрын

This cast.

@bestsnowboarderuknow 2 жыл бұрын

Pat Riley isn't the villain, the coach with the head injury is.

@theinitiative3139 2 жыл бұрын

Have to agree

@ahtoomians Ай бұрын

Brody did such a good job and absolutely stole every scene he was in. I was really sad we didnt get to see more of this.

@RichLynnette 2 жыл бұрын

My favorite character

@DrGaslight187 2 жыл бұрын

I wouldn’t say villain, I would say he more like the type of character that you would think would just be a side character but would later gain a more prominent role.

@kiki7401 Жыл бұрын

Best scene in the whole show

@chelseareagan5154 2 жыл бұрын

Great Video! Love it!

@allclassallthetime4739 10 ай бұрын

nice name call! 3 Webster upper tier adjectives and a noun always stings and has optimal dramatic effect! Ain't nobody that can recover from such a perfect formula of name calling!

@ZiontheHutt 2 жыл бұрын

Jack couldn’t handle getting out of a building with door right in front of his face. Riley saved the Lakers season and kept everything together.

@traxagenda3445 Жыл бұрын

If u actually watch the series there was nothing pat did that was "villain". He was just going along with how the players were liking it

@IsaiasMGPalafox 2 жыл бұрын

Love this show. 😂💯

@PaoloLeoncini 2 жыл бұрын

"You first" 🤣🤣🤣

@wobblertv8083 10 ай бұрын

Great coach ...but thought he was omnipotent by the 88 - 89 season .He even tried to patent the phrase threepeet .The players had had enough of him by the end of his tenure. He drove them into the ground basically.

@nicknovic3828 9 ай бұрын

Yes by late eighties hi got to full of himself 1989 finals was great team if he did not press to much scott and magic maybe will not get injured

@wobblertv8083 9 ай бұрын

@@nicknovic3828 I totally agree .

@DNSKansas 8 ай бұрын

@@nicknovic3828Also the Lakers did not properly prepare for Kareem's retirement. Did not have a successor in the pivot, which was more critical 35 years ago than it is today. Waited until after the sweep by the Pistons to draft Divac.

@ti8864 10 ай бұрын

Pat looked much better than in the show. He had style.

@foxmccloud7055 Жыл бұрын

If Pat Riley saw how he was portrayed in "Winning Times", he would go nuts.

@Jeff_Pryce Жыл бұрын

He’s too rich and busy to care. 😂

@roybuford7538 11 ай бұрын

Like Jerry West did 😆😆

@kashstory 9 ай бұрын

In a good way? One of the most generous portrayals in the show. I don't really know the guy but I like him just based on the show.

@sanjitsrinivasaiah860 2 жыл бұрын

Not a villain arc but more of a "growing a backbone" arc. He started to become more assertive in stead of laying down

@trevoredwards2527 2 жыл бұрын

I feel that villain arcs wise it might be Jerry West and definitely Red Auerbach & Larry Bird. Pat is still a little grey. We have to see the goal he has in mind and the actions he takes to achieve that said goal. Whether it's good choices or bad ones.

@gabrielmcguoirk6106 2 жыл бұрын

They're no bad guys and this show is highly dramatized. They completely shit on Riley and West throughout this series. They hit on gold with The Big Short. But everything else these guys have done are pandering liberal propaganda.

@trevoredwards2527 2 жыл бұрын

@@gabrielmcguoirk6106 idk about the liberal propaganda part. It looks as though we're both analyzing the show for two different things so I’m not reading the show for that in particular. I’m talking from a film perspective that every story has to have an antagonist in some way. Basically, they’re trying to prevent the protagonist from getting what they want and quite often the antagonist has the same goal as the protagonist. For Dr. Buss it’s obvious that it’s Red Auerbach. They both want a championship he’s trying to prevent that but there could be others antagonists for Buss as well. For Magic it’s Larry and maybe other people that want to exploit him or prevent him from being the man that he, which is "Magic". Dramatized, I definitely agree because it’s a show. However, good or bad isn’t the question and has nothing to do with a characters arc. Along with the central theme of the show it’s about from who’s perspective is the story from, what’s their goals, and how are they going to achieve said goals. The kind of choices (good or bad) they make determines their arc. If Pat makes bad choices to become The Lakers head coach then it’s a villains arc. Everyone can’t just be a good guy (a show doesn’t work like that). Look at the Spencer Haywood character. Not a bad guy but made bad decisions, therefore it’s a villain arc.

@jillconner5062 2 жыл бұрын

Movies always used to have actors who looked better than the actual people they played. Now it's the opposite.

@ce-rf3lg Жыл бұрын

Hey pal?! Lol his names on the menu

@nickchavez720 2 жыл бұрын

If the series is really going to try to portray Riley as the villain in all this, than this truly is a huge work of satire.

@tepsicouch 2 жыл бұрын

He's not shown as the villain, he's trying to keep his job. If Jack comes back he gets fired.

@akray1153 2 жыл бұрын

Is that a villain arc, cause that's exactly what I'd do too. The only person who's ever gonna really look after you is you

@dominicrufiespiritu7069 10 ай бұрын

He is Villain own in the eyes of jack Mckinney. jack mckinney is stuborn to realize that not well enough to coach the lakers after his biking accident . Pat and Paul are trying to help him run the lakers for the meantime while he away so he can recover more

@capercrusader7129 2 жыл бұрын

Marshall alt-universe after being judge fudge

@mosesrios2820 2 жыл бұрын

Please be a season 2

@jwiese100 9 ай бұрын

In Jack's head he's the villain

@MrFring13 Жыл бұрын

Luca is that you?

@TSouth10 Жыл бұрын

I wish I could get this instrumental track.

@RDV8686 2 жыл бұрын

0:34 Its what I you to say to this guy who bullied me in middle school!!!

@CarlosGonzalez-rw2mj Жыл бұрын

When Pat Riley said you first? Does that count as breaking the 4th wall?

@jastrology4192 9 ай бұрын

Isn’t that the guy always in the crowd during the Heat games?

@mikecarroll3538 9 ай бұрын

I love the you first

@jerseydevs2000 Жыл бұрын

"Shanty Irish"? Does that make McKinney "Lace curtain Irish?" While I can believe that the real McKinney was pissed off at Riley, that's not a slur I'd expect from another Irish-American.

@kellyhappaney915 3 ай бұрын

Tbh I only really hear these terms used by Irish-Americans describing other Irish-Americans

@antoineb9371 2 жыл бұрын

I kinda felt bad for Jack during this season

@TMthe33rd 2 жыл бұрын

From episode number??

@GTH321 2 жыл бұрын

Best character next to Kareem

@romemakes794 2 жыл бұрын

Villain??? He's beloved

@williamcowell1889 2 жыл бұрын

This show is so historically immaculate is infuriating

@Syck589 Жыл бұрын

The best part is, Adrien Brody is great for this role

@magichwoo 2 жыл бұрын

Villian? Wtf? He was the actual coach of the team. He is the one that knows talent and basketball.

@hoopsspill 2 жыл бұрын

.. Destiny

@slydEvil35 Ай бұрын

Do yourself a favor and read the book by Jeff pearlman. This show was entertaining but relied heavily on dramatization of events/characters when they really didn’t need to.

@aking2330 10 ай бұрын

There is no villain Arc for Pat Riley

@sene8346 2 жыл бұрын

This is not Pat Riley. This is actor Adrien Brody. Please check and correct.

@lance_wavy 2 жыл бұрын

Villain????? I thought all three of them had a very interesting "love triangle" dynamic and all of them have a reasonable stakes

@KingLeo7 2 жыл бұрын

Is that the guy from how I met your mother?

@saucybiscuits1150 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah Jason Segal who played Marshall

@serbonkers4130 2 жыл бұрын

Pat Riley is the Godfather.

@timhoward5 Жыл бұрын

*Why they did Pat Riley like that 😂🤣😂???*

@The_Greatest_man_of_All_time 8 ай бұрын

555

@datsapaddlin6449 2 жыл бұрын

Pat is the mob boss of coaches 😂

@gabrielmcguoirk6106 2 жыл бұрын

You know what's funny about this "historical" drama? Their real-life counterparts say this show is not historically accurate and it sucks.

@gfoot9916 2 жыл бұрын

No historical movie or tv show is historically accurate lol

@gabrielmcguoirk6106 2 жыл бұрын

@@gfoot9916 that’s just not true.

@jonathanhefets2850 2 жыл бұрын

Pat the rat.

@runningamok2825 2 жыл бұрын

“Villain arc” is tongue and cheek you dummies lol He’s clearly not calling Pat a villain here… he’s referencing Pat growing balls and being “selfish” here. Jack couldn’t coach yet end of story. It’s a “villain arc” jokingly because he’s gone from nice guy not willing to say Jack is still scrambled to keeping it real.

@fakeemmcee 2 жыл бұрын

This dude just doesn't look enough like Pat Riley to be believable.

@roddyboethius1722 2 жыл бұрын

Zero resemblance

@theinitiative3139 2 жыл бұрын

I was on Riley’s side tbh Didn’t see him as a villain at all

@yggybeats 2 жыл бұрын

Hated this show and the way the characters constantly break the fourth wall. All of them, interchangeably talking to each other. Plus the whole show is basically fiction.

@jpat1513 2 жыл бұрын

The show portrays Pat Riley a villain, Paul Westhead a loser, and Jerry West an alcoholic. Writers of this show probably never even watched a basketball game let alone the Showtime Lakers

@gfoot9916 2 жыл бұрын

Riley isn’t even a villain. Everybody in the story is an anti-hero. Westhead isn’t a loser, just inexperienced. And as for Jerry West, he’s probably the most relatable male character in the show.

@DarthDoggo 2 жыл бұрын

He’s not a villain tho…

@incognitomosquito3120 15 күн бұрын

I cant believe how bad they made this show tbh

@pjh2331 2 жыл бұрын

casting Adrien Brody as Pat Riley...? I mean come on. I get that you want stars but there are enough in the series. It's not believable

@gfoot9916 2 жыл бұрын

What’s the problem? They have similar facial features.

@samanthayoung8777 2 жыл бұрын

Not

@hubertsumlin9697 2 жыл бұрын

This is real footage? Looks like a low budget mess

@Malice1111 2 жыл бұрын

They threw in period like effects to the show for effect.

@mathewsbusiness1263 2 жыл бұрын

The show is actually good..I’ve even went back looking at videos of that season ..and they’re pretty much spot on with the look.

@gtajets5867 2 жыл бұрын

@@Malice1111 the fact that he didn’t know that shows he has a lower IQ than a Pre-K student 🤣😂🤷🏾‍♂️

@Alexeiyeah 2 жыл бұрын

It was not villainy, it was ambition and not wanting to be (in his own eyes) a failure, since Jack coming back meant he was out with no other perspectives for a job and a life in sight. It could be read as a dick move, yeah, but hardly villainous.

@Primenumber19 2 жыл бұрын

Ambition

@jacobbell8171 2 жыл бұрын

No he wouldn't have had no job, he would have just gone back to announcing, Chick Hearn promised him that

@davidr4523 8 ай бұрын

They should have casted a better looking guy than Adrian Brody for Pat Riley. I am amazed these actors have not sued this show which has portrayed them in an extremely unflattering way.