Drill Press Upgrade 2: Table and New Dust Collection

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Patrick Sullivan

Patrick Sullivan

Жыл бұрын

Building an auxiliary table, fence, and integrated dust collection system for a budget drill press, including some performance testing of the new dust system. This is the second video in this series. The first video showed the making of a handwheel for raising and lowering the rack-and-pinion mechanism. The link to that video is: • Drill Press Upgrade 1:...
The idea for the dust collection came from a video by Dennis from Hooked on Wood. Check it out at:
• My Ultimate Drill Pres...
Sources:
Wen 12" variable speed drill press: amzn.to/3CcbOIQ
Microjig dovetail clamps: amzn.to/3xW6WFj
Microjig anchors: amzn.to/3r6VpiD
Combination kit for clamps and anchors: amzn.to/3r7gQ2Y

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@nickmagma7745
@nickmagma7745 Жыл бұрын
The dust collection with that pvc molding is genius!
@luisurbina5115
@luisurbina5115 Ай бұрын
Thanks Patrick. I've done something similar with dust collection for the router, but instead of "shrinking" the elbow with the heat gun, I've attached a short piece of 2" and enlarged it with the heat gun using a stepped wood cone. Worked well. I'll try your method next time
@ederorellana9919
@ederorellana9919 Жыл бұрын
This video has inspired me to up my drill press dust collection game. Thank you very much for sharing.
@UppsalaSal
@UppsalaSal Жыл бұрын
Thanks for putting all that time into making the videos. Very instructive. Great problem solving on the dust nozzle.
@ideaguyinks
@ideaguyinks Жыл бұрын
I've watched almost every one of your videos. I can't say that about any other youtuber. Thanks for all the time you put into your videos. They are always so well done and informative.👍
@MauriceCalis
@MauriceCalis 4 ай бұрын
That scene at the end without dust collection took my breath away. I saw where you were going from the start, but that’s very impressive and unexpected just how much dust you were able to intercept. I HAVE to try this. BTW, I used the same PVC shaping technique many times. So useful.
@rickengstrom1192
@rickengstrom1192 Жыл бұрын
Very good. Thank you for sharing.
@Psychlist1972
@Psychlist1972 Жыл бұрын
Nice project. Really great analysis of the dust collection, too.
@houseoffire72
@houseoffire72 8 ай бұрын
Love the video..! I will doing something similar with my drill press.
@DavidR8
@DavidR8 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant work Patrick. Nice shout out to Dennis at @hookedonwood
@johngrubbs9494
@johngrubbs9494 Жыл бұрын
Super smart mods, especially the custom nozzles and PVC piping. I've spent literally days and more days trying to improve the dust collection on my cabinet saw. My latest attempt puts a 4" hose very near the blade. It works OK, but I believe that your custom nozzle idea may be just the ticket!
@toootankhamooon
@toootankhamooon Жыл бұрын
Awesome video sir patrick , lots of inspiration, thank you , please keep them coming
@avalanchecarter
@avalanchecarter Жыл бұрын
I appreciate the clear organization, narration, and editing of your videos, and I really like that they are clearly the work of an individual person. KZfaq indeed. Thanks again for sharing.
@rzentz9690
@rzentz9690 Жыл бұрын
Great improvements-just clicked “save” on the videos so they’re handy when we move and I get my next drill press and shop set up. Thanks Patrick.
@duncanhurst2888
@duncanhurst2888 Жыл бұрын
Superb, absolutely superb!
@pjhalchemy
@pjhalchemy Жыл бұрын
Loved that you incorporated the clamp storage on the bottom side, simple and elegant! Also loved your cam locks on the old table and then new press fit seems reasonable but would think you might still need some under clamping for working larger/longer pieces on the DP. Nice experimenting with the nozzle configs and generally quite sensible design...thank you both for the ideas. Really appreciate your videos and your first hand design mind on them. Thank You Patrick!
@jimaspinii7579
@jimaspinii7579 Жыл бұрын
Great ideas! Thanks for posting!!
@RobbieBolog
@RobbieBolog Жыл бұрын
Next level, as always. Your clarity of thought comes through in the presentation of these videos. Nicely done!
@howardappel3596
@howardappel3596 Жыл бұрын
Thank you. I always look forward to your videos and rewatch again and again.
@Philipk65
@Philipk65 Жыл бұрын
That is a great dust collection system. 👍
@odie00zero
@odie00zero Жыл бұрын
Excellent job and very informative. Thank you
@bullfrogpondshop3179
@bullfrogpondshop3179 Жыл бұрын
Love the PVC configuration! This is now on my to-do list.
@geofffrancis6791
@geofffrancis6791 Жыл бұрын
Wonderful video , easy to watch, very informative, thank you.
@The78bluedevils
@The78bluedevils Жыл бұрын
a great video for anyone to apply to other tool setups.
@JOHNJDEG420
@JOHNJDEG420 Жыл бұрын
love it going to try it tonight
@danjeln
@danjeln Жыл бұрын
I really liked the idea of shaping the pvc. And shrinking it to fit the shopvac. Thanks!
@dennisseemann571
@dennisseemann571 Жыл бұрын
perfect timing Patrick, just in the planning phase of a new drill press table, great video
@bob035
@bob035 4 ай бұрын
Excellent well done
@aronschmukle4558
@aronschmukle4558 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your amazing Videos. Not only are they well made and one get‘s input for great Builds, but also could I learn a lot about woodworking, planing, customizing techniques and how to‘s, that the time watching was well invested! Great work! Cheers, A‘ron from Switzerland
@ADVJason
@ADVJason Жыл бұрын
I've been considering building a table for my old Sears floor drill press. This is one of the best ideas I have run across doing my KZfaq research (lol) I really do like the thought of making this more useful but flexible enough to get it out of the way etc....nicely done.
@howler5000
@howler5000 Жыл бұрын
Great video!
@rchavez5056
@rchavez5056 Жыл бұрын
Great job.
@ChevronPilot
@ChevronPilot Жыл бұрын
Nice work! I'm also a big fan of Dennis at Hooked on Wood..
@chrispearson8163
@chrispearson8163 Жыл бұрын
Great ideas and presentation as always Patrick. Forstner bits always produce so much debris, this is a great way to manage it. Like the dovetail clamping system as well.
@John-cf4iv
@John-cf4iv Жыл бұрын
Added the dust collection to my existing drill press table a couple of weeks ago and it works great! Thanks so much!
@PatrickSullivan
@PatrickSullivan Жыл бұрын
Glad to hear you have found it useful. I'm still very pleased, too.
@looppp
@looppp Жыл бұрын
You are a true engineer. Loved the experimentation, learnings, and changing strategies. Maybe you need to even patent that idea hah.
@neilbrackstone1819
@neilbrackstone1819 Жыл бұрын
Consider incorporating the clamp into the table itself
@TheFalconJetDriver
@TheFalconJetDriver Жыл бұрын
Nice overview and I and many more I am sure appreciate that no music was playing In the back ground. “Kidd’s don’t try this at home” go to your neighbors house to do it preferably one that is an ER doctor 🤣🛫
@MCsCreations
@MCsCreations Жыл бұрын
Fantastic work, Patrick! Really well done! 😃 There are some flexible pipes... Like those under a fosset. Perhaps it could be useful as well! Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
@JustinRoffMarsh
@JustinRoffMarsh Жыл бұрын
Brilliant
@Xtian982
@Xtian982 11 ай бұрын
Great job with the system Perhaps consider removing the two 90 degree bends in the piping to avoid cavitation issues and further increase the power of the system. Love your videos and have subscribed
@BenMitro
@BenMitro Жыл бұрын
"suck it and see" was a saying I heard often from a very senior and wise man many years ago, now you have taken that meaning to a "hole" new depth. Love all the ideas for the table and vacuum system you presented - absolutely inspiring, so thanks very, very much.
@tinom.2455
@tinom.2455 Жыл бұрын
As always very entertaining! I also love Hooked on Wood. And Dennis' drill press dust collection caught my attention too. Your verification of this principle of a dust collection convinced me to build one too. Even though it means a huge modification in my tiny shop... And btw thank for your direct converting to metric. So I don't have to stop and calculate the hole time... (Whole inches, quartes and halves are no problem for me, I remember them or can them calculate on the fly, but as soon as there are foot, eighth, sixteenth or thirty-seconds of an inch, I am out! Its no imperial/metric bashing!) Greetings from Germany!
@spycedezynuk
@spycedezynuk Жыл бұрын
Yep have the same issue, my brain has never been taught to cope with smaller imperial fractions. It just doesn’t compute 😂👍🏻
@spycedezynuk
@spycedezynuk Жыл бұрын
Yep have the same issue, my brain has never been taught to cope with smaller imperial fractions. It just doesn’t compute 😂👍🏻
@spycedezynuk
@spycedezynuk Жыл бұрын
Yep have the same issue, my brain has never been taught to cope with smaller imperial fractions. It just doesn’t compute 😂👍🏻
@davidhaywood8029
@davidhaywood8029 Жыл бұрын
Great project & very well-explained! I'll echo the appreciation for your SI conversions -- saves my brain from calculating while also trying to listen -- as well as your British English translation of rebate (one of the few instances where the US pronunciation doesn't reflect the spelling; Noah Webster was obviously having an off day during the Rs).
@stegerguitars
@stegerguitars 4 ай бұрын
Nice....
@ashokmoghe8035
@ashokmoghe8035 Жыл бұрын
As always awesome video creation - to the point, no-nonsense clear articulation and yet very captivating. The dust collection system is just genius. BTW noticed you didn't incorporate a sacrificial drill plate in the table. Or is that coming in next upgrade video? Thanks and keep inspiring us.
@PatrickSullivan
@PatrickSullivan Жыл бұрын
I thought about a sacrificial plate, but discarded the idea because I have gotten in the habit of putting a piece of MDF under my work. In retrospect, I probably should have put in a renewable center plate.
@discomoot9075
@discomoot9075 Жыл бұрын
Nice work - I may borrow a few of your ideas ;)
@MrBobisadog
@MrBobisadog Жыл бұрын
Great video. I built your bench top organizer & use it everyday. I have used good quality gaffers tape on shop-vac hoses to increase friction. Wears well. But don’t use duct tape.
@pradeeprasam
@pradeeprasam Жыл бұрын
Genius
@jamesdmartin1379
@jamesdmartin1379 Жыл бұрын
Any plans available. Love the video.
@RezanciToTokyo
@RezanciToTokyo Жыл бұрын
WoW!
@jerryschlather2438
@jerryschlather2438 Жыл бұрын
Great table and video. But why no replaceable insert?
@soledude
@soledude Жыл бұрын
👌👌👌
@What_Other_Hobbies
@What_Other_Hobbies Жыл бұрын
Mr Sullivan, this is awesome. Just a thought. The nozzle for larget bit could be a little thicker on the narrow end, cut a big notch on the bottom, and maybe 1/2" on top to clear the shaft of bits. It will be more of a hood instead of nozzle. I can 3d print one for you so it's not limited by how much material is in a 2" PVC pipe.
@PatrickSullivan
@PatrickSullivan Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your gracious offer. I am going to get more experience with the nozzles I have now first. However, I have always thought that 3D printing was the ultimate solution for dust collection fittings and nozzles. And I have no doubt that a nozzle that literally surrounds the bit, as you proposed, would effectively guarantee total dust capture.
@What_Other_Hobbies
@What_Other_Hobbies Жыл бұрын
@@PatrickSullivan I have 3d printed a lot of dust ports for 2 table saws, 2 thickness planers, and planning to do more. It usually took a couple of iterations for each port in each machine. For what I have learned from your videos, making a dust port for you is almost nothing.
@user-cd6qz4rd1t
@user-cd6qz4rd1t Жыл бұрын
👍👍👍👍
@frankhouck4446
@frankhouck4446 10 ай бұрын
Excellent design and well presented. Curious - is that standard schedule 40 PV for DWV? Dry fitting pvc usually doesn’t work as it only fits in 1/4” or and is very tight, the cement acts as a “lube of sorts and chemically softens the material to allow full seating. It’s also pretty thick and doesn’t deform under heat so quickly. Are you using lighter residential drainage pipe or something else?
@chadgreen100
@chadgreen100 27 күн бұрын
Why did you remove the space for the cast iron top? Why not secure everything on top of it?
@velcroman11
@velcroman11 Жыл бұрын
I think the 90 degree bend under the bench is structurally superfluous. The inside diameter of the bend is greater than the standard pipe diameter.
@PatrickSullivan
@PatrickSullivan Жыл бұрын
The only reason for the elbow under the table is to avoid having the shop vac hose pointing straight downward, where it might interfere with lowering the table for a tall work piece. If that never comes up, you could skip the elbow.
@Psychlist1972
@Psychlist1972 Жыл бұрын
Did you have a US source for that MDF? Super hard to find here, and you mentioned you ordered it online.
@PatrickSullivan
@PatrickSullivan Жыл бұрын
I got mine from Trinity Innovations, Inc. Try this link: trinityinnovations.net/
@eddielindalemaster394
@eddielindalemaster394 Жыл бұрын
😊buuuiii
@blacknorce
@blacknorce Жыл бұрын
What is the fence material? MDF? Also where did you get it?
@jimh472
@jimh472 Жыл бұрын
Where are you getting that dark MDF from?
@PatrickSullivan
@PatrickSullivan Жыл бұрын
Try Trinity Innovations, Inc. at trinityinnovations.net/
@osgeld
@osgeld Жыл бұрын
no offence but I have seen 2 or 3 dust collector projects this month where everyone, including you put the collector on the cutting edge of the rotational cutter, its spinning clockwise the chip ends at "midnight" and gets shot off to the right ... lets put the collector on the left at "nine" and wonder why half the chips are going off to the floor
@velcroman11
@velcroman11 Жыл бұрын
I agree with you. I think it’s a mental thing as most people are right handed. They are thinking that the pipe will get in their way. This opinion is not valid in this case because the right hand is controlling the drill and, surprisingly, the left hand is holding the work piece and the nozzle could be in the way of the left hand to safely hold the work piece.
@PatrickSullivan
@PatrickSullivan Жыл бұрын
I have spent some time looking at the pattern of chips and dust thrown by a big bit with no dust collector, and it is pretty symmetrically arranged on both the right and left sides of the bit. The reason I put my system on the left is that the rotating arms that lower the quill are invariably on the right. If the PVC pipe is on the right, it would potentially interfere. It might be possible to work around this, but it seemed easier to just put it on the other side.
@osgeld
@osgeld Жыл бұрын
@@PatrickSullivan In all due respect, I do value every trick and technique you have shared with us, and made me personally a better woodworker, greatly. With a shop vac though, try a smaller pipe selection, make it lower profile, maybe more articulated, and mount it about 1-3 o-clock I'm an engineer, I would love yet another side project to goof off on rather than install shelves in the bathroom and fix the fence :p
@intjonmiller
@intjonmiller 7 ай бұрын
​@@PatrickSullivan It's not even a matter of left vs right. EVERY bit cuts all the way around the 360° circle. There is no reason to expect more to come off the left or right or front or back, or even any reason to imagine it to align to cardinal directions at all, unless you add another factor such as airflow, as you have. Mr Engineer telling you it's in the wrong position is telling on himself here. I hope he puts more effort into reasoning through his actual work than he does his KZfaq criticism. 🤦
@stanleyb5174
@stanleyb5174 Жыл бұрын
p̾r̾o̾m̾o̾s̾m̾ 😕
@RobertGlinka
@RobertGlinka Жыл бұрын
This looks like a great solution, but I would be concerned with the dangers of heating PVC with a heat gun like that, there's some pretty toxic stuff that comes off if you heat it just a little too much.
@PatrickSullivan
@PatrickSullivan Жыл бұрын
You can burn PVC pipe with a heat gun. It turns dark brown, and then black. This process begins at about 450° F. However, the plastic starts to become soft at about 200° F, and is soft enough to freely mold at about 250° F. Thus there is about a 200° "cushion" between the working temperature, and the burning temp. It is quite easy to stay out of the burn zone by keeping the heat gun moving, not getting too close to the plastic, and being patient enough to heat the piece slowly. Done this way, there is no odor, and no evidence that the plastic is deteriorating or decomposing. As shop risks go, I would rate this risk as pretty low.
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