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For me, Vigilante stole every scene he was in. He's like the geeky guy you play D&D with mixed with Jeffery Dahmer. I also like Judo Master. When he did the leprechaun dance after beating up some kids had me rolling.

After hearing over and over how much Peacemaker isn't like the comics I'm impressed by how much Gunn did manage to adapt. There are elements from all of the runs mentioned here. There is a lot that's different but its cool that there's a lot there that is true to the character. It proves that Gunn really cares about this stuff.

The DCEU needs more creators like Gunn. People that are unafraid to lean into the weirdness and fun of comics to make great stuff.

This is one of my favorite videos of yours, Chris! I love these direct comparisons and the show pulled a lot more from the books than I thought. I didn't know White Dragon's armor was so 1-1 with the comic counterpart so that was really interesting.

I'd like to think that "Peacemaker...what a *joke*" wasn't a coincidence and that the Dove Of Peace becoming stained with blood so often was also a deliberate choice. #thecomedian

It's also important to mention that Peacemaker was going to used in Watchman, which he eventually would be used as the Comedian

I honestly figured that James Gunn changed most of the comic origins, but this is actually a really good modernized adaptation. Bringing Peacemaker into the 21st century

Outside media giving extra stuff to the mythos happens a lot. Harley Quinn came from Batman: The Animated Series, and Superman's S was just that until the 78 movie made it the sigil of the House Of El.

I was honestly really surprised that the butterflies were an original concept. They really gave off the *feel* of some old-school comics concept that would have been a little goofier back in the day, but got 'grounded' for the live action adaptation.

Grant Morrison and Frank Quitely did an issue of Multiversity with the Charlton characters. It opens with Peacemaker assassinating the president while freefalling from the sky, all told in reverse. It is really something

35 year old spoiler, but I find it interesting that Adrian Chase committed suicide in the final issue of his comic, due to the overwhelming guilt her felt about those he murdered.

Why does everyone gloss over the fact that this series confirmed the existence of green arrow in the dceu, thats a pretty big revelation imo.

I am so glad that Kupperberg and Ostrander are finally getting the love they deserve as writers in the late 80s/early 90s. They had such great storylines and creations that kinda got overlooked in DC comics..

Economos calling Judo Master "Cobra Kai" and doing the Daniel-san crane stance, that made me pause and laugh for for few minutes.

I remember reading the old Suicide Squad books back in the late 80s and thinking at that time that if they ever did a live action version I would've cast Nell Carter as Waller. I think anyone who remembers her and the sitcom Gimme A Break would agree

Harley Quinn, one of the best characters in recent Suicide Squad efforts, debuted in the Animated Series and didn't show up in comics until years later. TAS also made Mr Freeze a tragic, interesting character too. Sometimes TV improves comics.

I was really hoping that Mr. Mind would somehow fit into a storyline with space butterflies and giant worm cows. Peacemaker and Shazam would be a good teamup with the potential for a lot of laughs.

A note about exclamation points: many sentences end in one for older comics. This was done not to inflate the urgency of a sentence, but because they were easier to print. Periods are small dots that don’t print consistently clear

Great episode and I loved the show, too. I liked the kind of "also ran - lo-fi" hero feel that you also got with Watchmen (particularly the HBO series); I feel like it widens the scope for human stories versus the Olympian stakes of upper-tier meta-human tales. Plus, it's just plain weirder.

100% agree about John Cena's performance - I knew he could do action, and certainly comedy, but this show proved his dramatic chops, as well. There were several points that were incredibly moving, especially in the later episodes, all riding on Cena selling that pain and inner conflict. Gunn is a master director, and I'm so glad he's getting more work as he refines his talents.

Think we’ll see Peacemaker, Vigilante, and other characters return to or feature in future comics given how popular the show was?

I see the term "meta-human" used often. I've always seen that to mean a super-human or someone with superpowers. Peacemaker doesn't have any, as far as I can see

Never in my life would I have imagined there was going to be a live-action Peacemaker show. Much less that it would be really good and critically acclaimed! Crazy. I had a few of the old Charltons, Captain Atom, Blue Beetle, but I only knew Peacemaker from the ad pushing the Action Hero line. His image always stuck with me, and I always wanted to read his comics, but never did til I found them as an adult. Like you said, they’re pretty meh, but I still enjoyed having them in the collection. A weird little oddity, a part of the kind of weird attempt by Charlton to join the superhero renaissance, which I think they gave up on too soon. Great show, man, take it easy and have fun!

When I saw the trailer for The Suicide Squad, my first thought was "How the f@*! did Waller get Orion onto the squad?"

Post-New 52 Amanda Waller does have a daughter who is involved in Task Force X, although its likely just that fans did not like the young thin New 52 Waller so they split them into two characters

There are rumors that season two they are bringing Bane as a main villain. I don't know if there's any credence to these rumors but James Gunn old friend Dave Bautista has been very very open about how much she would love to play Bane , if that could happen it could be seriously cool. It would also be a good foil to have crime and low tech storyline to kind of differentiate the past two stories about eventually doing kaiju as the big bad. Also it would be very interesting to have a more comic-accurate version that the one seen on the Nolan trilogy.

I love that Bork here isn't even the only Bork in the general and greater DCU. There's another one that ended up on The Power Company

Neat detail about the costume: James Gun was super faithful EXCEPT he changed the shield to a pentagon. Gotta be a jab at the Department of Defense. The character exemplifies the hypocrisy of 'peace through superior firepower.'

I enjoyed Garth Ennis' one shot last month. Nothing too spectacular but a fun read. And Gunn did wonderful work too. Oh, bloopers, win!

I used to have a reprint of the original Peacemaker comic book; it wasn't bad, just Silver Age schlock.

Vigilante being a Bus Boy is like The Flash working at a pet store.

Fun note! According to the Peacemaker podcast, Cena asked if he should read the comics for researching his character. He was told no, because the interpretation of PM they wanted didn't want to be blurred by the different takes PM had by various writers/artists.

Great comparison contrast!! Comics like Peacemaker are great for adaptations because there usually is very little source material to go on and the little there is is often not very good. A creative team with vision can take lemons and make lemon bars. Gaurdians of the Galaxy, Ant-man, even Iron man were lukewarm comics until their big screen versions.

Cena has said he tried to do peacemaker super serious type like in the comics and Gunn told him not to even read the comics, he wanted to do something incredibly different with peacemaker so Gunn knew exactly what he was doing and he absolutely nailed it. I loved the series.

Garth Ennis one shot is my favorite version of the character I wish he had a whole series to toy with the character. He clearly took it seriously like his Punisher run.

thank you so much for dedicating your time and self to this show. i genuinely love every one i watch, and amd so blown away by your absolute insistence on mentioning and commending every writer and artist who worked on each feature, regardless of your taste in it. it may be too niche, or you may have already explored it and i missed it, but id love to hear more on a deep dive into the many judge dredd/batman crossover events regardless, keep up the good work dude! love it all!

That didn't feel like a shorter or rushed episode, great work as always.

Really enjoyed the episode! You always keep the quality of commentary high even for your quick vids. Love this channel!

I'm really impressed you were able to get out a video at all during jury duty, let alone one so fun and informative. Keep up the good work!

Loving the blooper/outtakes you've been adding at the end! Channeling your inner Dom DeLuise, I guess?

“My son is also named ‘Bork’.”

It's been a while since I've checked out your channel, and I am really impressed with your new intro! Super cool!

You’re right about the mythos of fictional characters being expanded, often for the better, by other mediums. Werewolves having a weakness for silver originated in a radio series. And most interestingly the Saracen character in Robin Hood first appeared in the 80’s ITV series ‘Robin of Sherwood’. Every subsequent Robin Hood has featured a version of the Saracen character as one of the Merry Men.

Loved the Magic Spoon commercial!

You make the sponsor ads fun to watch, you're awesome as always Comic Tropes

Your videos are always so concise and humorous. Good work.

Peacemaker HBO seems like it should have been based on a Grant Morrison comic miniseries. I liked the Doom Patrol that also pulled heavily from Grant Morrison's whacky vibes and visual ideas.

“Is it for cats? NO!” Lol. I love Comic Tropes. Lol

I appreciated this post. I only have OTA broadcast TV so haven't been able to see an episode of the show (but I'll check for clips online). It sounds like the TV show did a superior job of doing justice and even improving on a character, which is too rare! TY for the coverage.

The beauty of comics in general. It doesn't matter if you change them. If there is thousands of versions for each character.

*cold open on Chris sitting in front of a plate of spaghetti, openmouthed about to bite into a forkful* Oh hi, you caught me just as I was about to taste this food. Do YOU really want to taste it? Let's talk about Peacemaker!

Let's also appreciate how good Vigilante looks after seeing him look so silly in Arrow...

Thanks for the vid and providing relevant and as it turns out less relevant (but informative) background info on Peacemaker. Loved that show.

Holy crap! Peacemaker isnt available in the UK atm. I had no idea Vigilante was in the show. Kind of wish I didnt know that. Great show Chris, glad to see you looking so slim and in focus!

Well said, I love your channel it is awesome, detailed and prolific!!!! I HAVE SUSCRIBED AND THANKYOU FOR TAKING THE TIME OUT OF YOUR SCHEDULE TO DO THIS FOR THE MANY COMIC BOOK AND HERO LOVERS OUT THERE ITS NOT EASY! YOUR MY HERO FOR CREATING THIS CHANNEL

Great episode. I remember as a kid, while I read mostly DC and Marvel, I gave Charlton my best efforts especially with the Phantom, which in my opinion led to an entertaining film with Billy Zane. I have to give a lot of credit to DC live action across the board for recognizing it's past. From seeing the original Doom Patrol in the Doom Patrol show to the mention of Kite Man in Peacemaker, I'm still waiting for Sgt. Rock to make an appearance.

Wow! What timing. I just started reading the Vigilante Tpb a few days ago ✨

Great episode Chris. I still haven’t seen peacemaker yet but I will.

Just finished the show yesterday, great timing to watch my favorite comic channel.

This is the 1st I've ever seen your channel but happy anniversary.

I didn't realize the butterflies were original but I'm not surprised -- I read them somewhat as a reference to Slither, Gunn's directorial feature debut about alien slugs that take over human bodies. The show's climax in an isolated barn is also reminiscent of an iconic scene from Slither, except instead of the "cow" being a giant alien caterpillar, you have a woman whose grown to fill up the entire interior (as a breeding place for the slugs). Many elements also reminded me of his film Super, which I strongly recommend. Of course many of these themes persist throughout his career, so that's hardly surprising, but I feel the grit and brutality of Peacemaker in particular came off as a return to his roots in Super. Even the costuming feels similar, not as grandiose as in Guardians of the Galaxy but more like "I can't believe someone would wear that."

Love these screen comparisons!

Well, there's a reason why Alan Moore's The Comedian is based on Peacemaker.

James Gunn said that John Cena is the best improvisational actor he's ever worked with, and that is saying something.

Was hoping for you to cover this!

No one ever talks about how Peacemaker was a supporting character in Jamie Reyes Blue Beetle series. That's how I was introduced to the character.

In the 2000s Blue Beetle Jaime Reyes original run there is an arc about Peacemaker and The Reach-the source of the Blue Beetle armor that have a scarab that is supposed to bond to its host body’s spine and take control of them. It seems like Gunn is adapting that concept into a new spin, together with Peacemaker in Multiversity Pax Americana comic where he is contracted by the US government secret op to kill a political figure. Gunn’s iteration feels like a hybrid of difference sources under the hood, I do think he was pulling from some stuff outside of the things you highlighted in your video to guide the beats of his run while telling his own story. Great work btw! Love your stuff.

FYI, there was a US Supreme Court nominee named Robert Bork

Excellent video!!! I must comment, just to comment, on your commentary, because comments are like ; likes , and I like that!!!

It parallels the 80s miniseries very well.

Great analysis! As always! I also enjoyed Cena's performance!! Im glad im not the only one! And this Vigilante version sure added up a lot of fun to the equation! Don't know why, but the series reminded me of the last The Tick iteration!!

Those are some nice koi in that pond man 👌

Thanks Chris!

The previous highlight of Peacemakers career was inspiring The Comedian.

A CHALLENGE FOR YOU!!!: i have fond memories of a '70s British comic called Action. It was banned because of the ultraviolence. For example, one story called Hookjaw (obviously inspired by Jaws) was based on a giant shark that used a harpoon protruding from its body, as a weapon. Another story was called Spinball, inspired by Rollerball. Love your channel, I hope it continues to grow. Best wishes from Scarborough, England 🙂

The comic John Economos honestly looks a little bit like you. Not a dead ringer, but if you introduced a pic of him as fanart a viewer created, I'd momentarily believe you.

Great show...I liked those simplistic stories by Gill for Peacemaker in the Charlton books (part of a collection I started with Judomaster back in the early 1970s) but appreciate the update by DC on Peacemaker. Excellent show!

Yay! Just finished it with my boyfriend yesterday and wanted more content, awesome Chris ♥️!

John Ostrander and Kim Yale's(RIP) Suicide Squad book was one of my favourite books as a teen. Thanks for giving them a shout out in this video Chris.

The show made me love vigilante so much I wish there was actual good comic stories about him

A very KOOL episode Chris. . HEY. .do you remember a DC comics title called "THE BLACK HOOD"?? I loved that title and I would like you to do a SHOW about that character. . .I don't know why DC COMICS forgot about him. . .so. . what you think??😸

Chris, you’re looking great buddy! Awesome video.

Someone else prob said this too but Peacemaker was also the inspiration for Watchmen's Comedian. And there was a fourth Judomaster named Sonia Sato who had the superpower of never being able to be hit by anything directly aimed at her. She would join the JSA

For a "smaller" episode this was still fantastic, look forward to next week.

ive been into comics for a long time and ive never heard of peacemaker until this recent content.

The Charlton run of Peacemaker went to 5 issues as you said, but Pat Boyettte had completed the art for issue 6, and you can find the unpublished pages easily on line.

Great to see Infotron again. More of him please! xD

This is the thing , when doing certain roles it u to the director & writer or both to make sure that the actor sales the character successfully. I haven’t seen it yet, probably going to being watch this week.

You forgot to mention who Bat-Mite *is* though. You know, Peacemaker's dad's neighbor?

Are you not going to mention that Peacemaker was the inspiration for Watchmen's Comedian? Wow.

The Vigilante in the show: his mentality and characteristics are duped from Deadpool Marvel. DC was trying to capitalize on the Deadpool characteristics!

I loved the add! Great video!

Nice video. Some of this information I knew and the rest was a nice surprise!

I thought Peacemaker was a Jack Kirby character given his helmet.

Cena really won me in terms of his acting here. I've seen a bit of his wrestling, many of his movies, but this show broadened how I perceive him as a performer.

I love this peacemaker show,it gives me ash vs the evil dead vibes,cant wait for season 2.

Very impressed with your research. Peacemaker was never a favorite of mine but he was always kind of there in the background. If i wanted to give the show a harsh critique i could rip it apart but its been so much fun, so satisfying that I can overlook gaffes. I want more Judomaster. I would love to see another Charlton character or two somehow worked into the mix. If they do make it so the next door neighbor is Bat mite I would want to limit it to one off the wall self contained episode, like a "special episode' over making him recur. Also I find it ironic that even though White Dragon isn't his dad in the comics he still dies in the pages of Suicide Squad.

digging deep into the dc history for a maybe unpopular characters and polish em up. novel idea

I'm ok with these smaller episodes. Especially the compare and contrast ones. Maybe one for Moon Knight when that appears. Keep up the good work