Sounds close. I guess when the spectator picks up the needle at 3:05 it has already been switched for a similar looking one. Teller needed to have only a small number of replacement needles ready to put one on the table which would not make the spectator suspicious for those few seconds until she loses it in the haystack. Note that at 3:05 Teller also seems to cover the needle partially so the spectator does not see much of it. Teller would then have plenty of time to fix the original needle to the prepared card.

The needle with the card is in the ladder, behind the piece of metal.

My guess is the whole deck is the same card - Jack of spades - and when everybody's watching her climb the stairs, an off-stage assistant slips the already-threaded needle and card to Teller. He then brings it out during the hay shower.

yeah definetely a card force, rest is just sleight of hand and there are many ways of achieving this. i doubt anyone will know the exact method that they used, this trick can literally be made in 10+ different ways. however one thing that bugs me, if they have duplicate needles, what if she picked something really big and flashy and it falls onto the ground in a way that everyone can see? were they really counting on that needle will be covered with hay and it won't show up? it would ruin the whole trick .. even worse if it got caught in Teller's hair or clothes xD

no one cares

That would be awesome 😂

They had a separate card and needle so it wouldn't of done any good they would of still gotten it right if she kept the needle and card lol

@@Gillespie91 Not if they presented the card on the string and then she brought out an identical card.

There's a subreddit for foolus where people discuss the methods

Visuals for the audience. A lot of theater is doing things in such a way that the audience in the back can see and hear the performance so they don't feel cheated out of the price of admission. Penn's an old carnie and would definitely appreciate that as a basic of performance.

What was the red thing over the thread after the hay fell down and the camera cut? 4:34 time stamp

This clip is from the end of an episode from maybe 4 months ago. I felt like I saw it before as I was watching and did a quick search. Not sure about a different host with the same girl. P&T don’t use plants and don’t allow their guests to use them either. The producers pick “tv ready” people from the audience that are willing to be on tv, sign a waiver, and wear a microphone.

I am assuming its just a deck with only Jack of Spades and Teller switches the deck while turning away and having his arm with his hand and the deck hidden.

@@TheBennyFisch or it could be just forced card, maybe there was 5 of those next to each other just in case. I dont know how they got the needle though. Whats certain, however, is that the needle and the card was ready before she pulled the rope.

She shuffles at 2:35 and you can different cards.

​@@RickLindstromthe switch is at 1.33

@@RickLindstrom Yeah. But she shuffled only AFTER she picked a card. Notice that Teller never shows the faces of the deck he presents for picking. After she picked a card Teller has plenty of time to switch the gimmicked deck to a regular one. Also notice that Tellers hand holding the deck of cards vanishes a few times behind the table.

The producers pick random people from the audience that are “tv ready” and are willing to be on tv. They sign a waiver and get a microphone put on them. They don’t use or allow “stooges”/“plants” in their show or for the contestants on the show. The trick has nothing to do with the girl and the card being forced without her realizing it. Teller has the needles and duplicate card in his pocket. This string trick isn’t new, just the method/appearance. Can be done with anyone.

Would

All the episodes were taped the same day and the tricks aren't consecutive.

Yep. Same with P&T - always the same suits. They do this because the individual acts are not recorded in the same order as they are aired. To create continuity through out all the episodes, they always wear the same outfit. It was the same with Alison and Bob Ross in previous episodes: 1 season - 1 outfit.

no complaints here

​@@kallewirsch2263I assume you mean Jonathan Ross... Bob Ross would have been somewhat different as a host.

@@nope.0. 😆😆😆 Of course. How silly of me. But: We all make happy accidents.

There is no such thing as "trigger words" to make you pick something. And not magician ever, let alone at the level of P&T, that would hinge the entire trick on the chance that their subject will pick the correct item.

I think it's more of a great unique variation of the card sword.

Needle was a free choice. Card was almost definitely forced.

@@pvanukoffYeah, on rewatch, it would be easy for Teller to even just swap out the deck (from one where all the cards are the same) after she picks one. He spends a lot of time hanging around, behind the table, or hands out of sight, while Penn is doing his really intense patter to hold her attention.

Again: obviously they knew which needle she would pick. It wasn't a "hinge". A lot of choices (in a particular setting etc) are quite predictable. You can see this pattern/trick on almost every video about "mind reading". It's always the same. FOR EXAMPLE: when women have to choose a suits from a deck of cards they choose hearts.

We in Australia have many slang terms which have no racial connotations here whatsoever but they do in the USA. So we often get in trouble on social media for our name for savoury biscuits, amongst other things. The political correctness is stifling when people are penalised for the tiny chance that someone half the globe away might find something they say mildly offensive.

Of course he is. That's the whole misdirection by Penn. They probably have doubles of all of the needles, so Teller loads the second red darning needle with the thread through the card. The stabbed card is probably held behind the spool of thread. As the hay drops, Teller pulls the thread further, bringing the card along. Or some other such move. Maybe he simply drops the thread and uses a loaded thread/needle/card combo. Regardless, it is still a great trick. Thoroughly entertaining.