Hello and I think there will be many others who didn't know about his work. It's the shadow of Alphonse Mucha that keeps others in the dark I think.

I was thinking the same thing. I too have 6 years in art school and never heard of him. It’s great to see Peter bring these gems back to life and into our collective consciousness.

Hello and thanks a lot for your comment. It's particularly rewarding when illustrators respond favourably to the channel. When I was working I didn't pay much attention to my contemporaries - always heroes from the past. Maybe I'd have been more successful if I had...

As someone who is a total random recommendee to this video 😀 I do have to wonder, if the illustrator of the Jean Michel Jarre album 'Equinoxe' had some inspiration from the 'background?' artwork in the thumbnail of this video? I don't possess an illustrator's skill, but I can sure appreciate it 😀

@@Phoenixeire Hello, and I wasn't familiar with the album cover. I see what you mean but I think its probably just a coincidence of pattern-making of about the same density.

Hello and I'm very pleased you appreciate Grasset's work. I hope the video brings him to a wider audience.

Hello and I know what you mean. I like them both in roughly equal measure. Thanks for watching and liking.

Hello and many thaks for your positive comment. I really like the image of father and son watching the channel together. I hope he becomes a regular viewer.

Pete is great!

Hello and many thanks for your appreciation.

My pleasure!

Hello and it would seem that you are the first viewer (at least the first to comment) who was already aware of this great man's work. I must admit I had known about him for quite a while but never previously bothered to find out more until now. And I'm very glad I did.

@@petebeard I'm also glad you decided to make a video about him, while I love the work of Eugène Grasset (probably because I grew up in a french town with a lot of art nouveau architecture, etc.) I didn't know much about the artist itself, so thank you for that!

Aha! I see you were notified.

He and thanks or the recent comments. I'm particularly pleased you enjoyed this video. Grasset tends to get hidden by Mucha's shadow unfortunately.

Hello again and thanks for your comment about this video. I'm really pleased that I'm bringing these illustrators to a wider audience.

Hola y muchas gracias por tu comentario. Esta es una traducción de Google, así que espero que tenga sentido.

As usual you are very welcome. He's much overlooked I suspect because of Mucha.

Hello and thanks a lot for your positive response to the channel.

Hello and thanks. He's nothing like as well known as Mucha.

Thanks for your comment, and it's my pleasure to bring these talented people from the past to a wider audience.

Hello and thanks for your greeting and comment. I'm very pleased that you admire Grasset's beautiful work.

Hello and thanks for your appreciation of Grasset's work. Like quite a few others he has suffered because of the giant shadow cast by Mucha.

Thanks, and I'm glad you appreciate Grasset's work. Much as I admire Mucha it's a pity that his giant shadow tends to obscure the work of others.

Hello and I've already thanked the genorous Mr. Gurney for giving the channel a plug. And I'm pleased he brought you and others to the videos I'm making. Thanks a lot.

Hi again and I'm glad you enjoyed it. If I could turn them around faster I would, but even in retirement real life gets in the way.

Hello and thats good to know. He has been seriously overlooked.

Hello and thanks for the comment. Sadly, Grasset doesn't get the level of interest or credit his work deserves.

Hello and thanks for watching and appreciating the video. I suspected many would not have heard of him or seen his work and it seems that my instincts were right, judging by the comments.

Hello and thanks a lot for your comment. Obviously I had to check out your channel and you are enviably adept in your use of watercolour. I used to use the same medium a long time ago in my illustration but I always had to rely on an inked black line. Lovely work.

@@petebeard Thank you so much for your kind words! I was wondering about how your art looks like! And thanks for checking out my channel! (I didn't want to post it in here, lol I would feel like a spammer! 😅🤦‍♀️) I wanted to follow you on Instagram or Facebook actually but you don't have any other social media besides of KZfaq, do you? :)

Hello again and yes I keep a very low profile when it comes to social media - I'm not a fan of the phenomenon at all. Although I retired from illustration 6 years ago my agent still keeps me on his website, which is flattering. So if you want to see any of my work, its viewable at www.theillustratorsagency.com. I should warn you that most of what is there is digital and from my later output. On mature reflection I wish I had stuck to watercolour

Hello and thanks a lot for your comment. And I'm very glad that the architects didn't get their way. Barbarians.

Hllo and that's very welcome praise for the channel. Great to know viewers apprciate what I'm doing.

Hello and thanks for your comment. It seems he's about as unknown as I thought he might be, judging by viewers' reponses.

Hello and thanks for your comment. It does seem that very few viewers were aware of his work so I'm glad I could introduce you to it.

Hello and thanks for the comment. I'm glad you found the video interesting - he's very overlooked.

Hello and many thanks for your appreciation - positive responses to the channel mean a lot to me.

Hello and what a nice thing to say. I hope it's not actually true though.

Hello again and thanks a lot. And even more thanks for watching twice. Some of the more hard of thinking viewers seem to think that if they miss stuff first time around that I should re-make the videos at a pace that suits their limited faculties.

@@petebeard That's funny. They must not realize today's technology allows everyone to pause, rewind or start over.

Hello and he is much neglected compared to Mucha. And I hope you find more on the channel that is of interest to you.

Hello and thanks for that. I must confess my main mission is to bring the lesser known (but in my view equal) talents to viewer's attention.

Thanks a lot for your comment. Glad you appreciate his work.

Hello again and thanks for your comment. I also knew very little about his work until I started making the video. I was amazed by what he had created

Hello again and although I had known about him for a very long time I had no idea just how important he was in the Art Nouveau movement.

Hi and thanks a lot.

Hello and thanks a lot as usual. He dies seem to have been rather sidelined considering his talent.

@@petebeard This may seem flippant, as I am quite certain that you have covered him before ... Gustave Doré. I was fortunate enough to see an exhibit of his at the National Gallery of Canada in 2014. Well known for his illustrations of Dante's Inferno, Milton's Paradise Lost , etc., I was quite stunned by his broad scope of beautiful work in sculpture and other mediums. A truly remarkable man and artist. Worthy of a look ...

Hello again and I wouldn't consider the suggestion of someone of Doré's stature to be remotely flippant. Although I've included him a couple of times in the more historical overview videos I'vemade I have long wondered if I should attenpt a video devoted just to his work. I think my hesitancy is based on the engraved nature of his illustration work which I suspect could get a bit visually relentless for a lot of viewers, and I deliberately leave the fine art aspects of my subjects for proper art critics. But he was so remarkable and important that with your prodding I have to at least attempt a video. He'll be joining a long queue though so it'll take a while. Thanks for the prod.

Hello and thanks a lot for watching and your appreciative comment.

Hello and my thanks go to you for such a positive response to the channel content. It really is a pleasant experience to be given this kind of support.

Hello and many thanks for your comments. It's great to know the channel is appreciated by virewers.

Hello and thanks a lot for your appreciation of the video. It's good to know his work is getting at least a little better known.

Hello and your appreciation is greatly valued. Grasset is one of those illustrators who gets sidelined by the extraordinary amount of attention Mucha recieves. Not that I think Mucha doesn't deserve it, but art historians and critics can be a very lazy bunch and tend to stick with the bigger attractions.

Hello and many thanks for your enthusiastic response to the channel. It confirms that I must be doing something right.

Thanks for the appreciation. He does struggle to get out from under Mucha's shadow.

Hello and what can I say when presented with such entusiasm for the channel? Thanks a lot doesn't seem like enough. If you'd like to be my agent that would be fine with me! But I genuinely don't do this for money. The only reason I have ads (the rewards are pitiful) is that it makes youtube more likely to promote the channel. I have been giving some thought - suggested by a couple of viewers - to putting together some as e-books. I'll maybe give it a whirl in the future but for now the videos occupy most of my time.

Well...too old and lazy to go out and do any hard work like that! But, I am definitely going to start buying and scouring these old magazines and making my own little scrapbook now that I know who’s who! So happy you are simply enjoying doing what you are doing...what better thing can there be!?

Hello and that's really good to know. Thanks a lot.

Hello and I'm very glad you found the video interesting. Grasset is nothing like as well known as he deserves to be.

Hello and thanks for your comment. I had never heard of David Palladini so I'm grateful for that too. I think the only book available that isn't colosally expensive is his floral designs, and they are also available free online.

Hello and many thanks for your comment. Regarding Patreon I'm really not doing this for money. The only reason I have advertising is because it encourages youtube to promote the channel. But thanks for the thought and your support.

Thanks for your comments about Grasset. He's very neglected.

Hello, and thanks for your comment. I think I've already replied to a later one you sent, but I just wanted to point out there are examples of other Art Nouveau stylists dotted throughout the insung heroes series which might be of interest to you too. And others on the way.

Hello and I'm glad you found the video of interest. I suspected very few would be aware of Grasset's work. Regarding books I wouln't be too optimistic. The only ones I've found online are second hand and very expensive. You might find a book on Art Nouveau generally which would have at least something about him, and I wish you luck.

@@petebeard Thank you, Pete . I only just received your reply ! ( sometimes seems to happen on YT at present ) I do believe you’re absolutely correct, I’ve been doing a bit of research since watching the video, and the books related to almost all the era are fantastically expensive. However, you’ve given us a very beautiful ‘ gift ‘ by means of your own research and pictures. And ......I can come back to watch ! That’s wonderful 🌹❤️

Hello and I have to say that it's very rewarding when viewers such as yourself bother to let me know you enjoy the channel.

Hello and that's a welcome appreciative comment x3. Thanks

Hello and thanks for your appreciation. It's good to know viewers get something from the content.

Hello and thanks a lot for your appreciation. And if the videos get viewers drawing and painting that's a real bonus as far as Im concerned.

Hello and thanks a lot for your positive comment

And so is your comment. Thanks a lot.

Hello to you and many thanks for the comment. It's a real tonic to know viewers appreciate what I'm trying to do. More is undoubtedly on the way - I just wish I could turn them around quicker.

Hello and I'm glad you like them. Me too.

Hello and thanks, although I don;t get the gem to eat reference. Probably my age.

hi Pete 😃 sorry I meant to type “another gem to be found” I’ve been trying to edit it but KZfaq won’t let me @@petebeard

Hello and thanks a lot for the comment.

Hello again - and thanks again.

Hello and many thanks for your appreciation of the channel. Sadly I think seeing those Parrish murals is about as likely as my hair growing back. And much as I love Mucha's work it's unfortunate that others such as Grasset tend to get hidden by his shadow.

Hello and many thanks for your comment. It's good to know viewers are enjoying the videos.

Hello and I'm extremely grateful for your positive comment, and reaction to this video. When viewers react with this level of enthusiasm it is extremely rewarding and keeps me motivated.

Hello and thanks a lot for your appreciation.

Hello and many thanks for watching and bothering to comment. It's always appreciated.

Hello and thanks for the comment. A few books feature on Amazon but the ones worth having are second-hand and expensive. One is selling at around £40 so I suppose it's a question of how much you think you are prepared to spend. His book of floral decoration is available quite reasonably priced but it would tell you nothing about him or show his other work.

Hi again, and I'm glad you have another video for your breakfast. Grasset deserves more attention in my opinion.

@@petebeard Exactly! It was my breakfast dessert!!

Hello and you are welcome. Thanks for watching.

Muchas gracias por tu apreciación

Hello and thanks for the comment. But if I'm honest I'm failing to understand a connection. Maybe it's because I'm a Brit or maybe I'm just stupid -or both. I don't know who Aubrey or EA was or Marlboro (other than a cigarette) either. Any chance you could clarify?

You and me both!

Bonjour et merci beaucoup.

Thanks as usual. I had known about Grasset peripherally since my teens, but like others got seduced by Mucha and promptly ignored all the other Art Nouveau illustrators. It's actually not that high on my list of favourite styles but credit where it's due and the influence of Grasset shouldn't be so forgotten.

@@petebeard His work hadn't really registered with me and your talk made me realise I had known his work in earlier contexts, (It is unforgettable in a sense) but my language teacher has a long standing interest in Art Nouveau and Art Deco - there was a society here devoted to it for a short time - so it brought the period to mind again. My interest is mainly 20th century and research became more focused on 'Conceptual art', though that research has long since ceased! For this reason also I find these, your works, really refreshing and stimulating.

Thanks a lot for your comment and appreciation of this video and Grasset's remarkably under-appreciated work.

Helló, és nagyon köszönöm a megjegyzést. Remélem, többet fog nézni a csatornán.

Hello and thanks for the comment. it's good to know that he is properly appreciated. The purpose of these videos is to introduce talents such as Grasset to a wider audience on a global basis. Japan to Chile and all points inbetween.

@@petebeard Hello, thanks for your nice answer. Your channel is a shinning diamond of memory. I've seen all the videos, thus discovering a lot of artists, and I wait impatiently for the new ones.

Hello and thanks for your appreciation of the video. And also thanks for introducing me to this particulary interesting figure. I'd never heard of him before. Not sure where if anywhere he would fit in - the longer single subject videos are all personal favourites and the unsung heroes seies only features those born 1910 or earlier. But I never say never and there may be a good reason in the future to feature him. Either way thanks a gain for the suggestion.

Many thanks for your appreciation, and yes E M Lilien is among those waiting to be featured in the new series of unsung heroes (when I get round to resuming it). Like others, there isn't a vast amount to be found by him or about him so as things stand I couldn't concoct a video just about him, unfortunately.

Hello and thanks a lot. I had honestly never heard of nose art - although it turns out I just didn't know that's what it's called. And yes for me it would be fairly off-topic, but I have made videos about several of the American pinup artists who inspired this kind of thing, and more are in the pipeline. I hope youcontinue to watch and enjoy.

@@petebeard I'm a fan of your channel for sure.

Hello and I'm very pleased you enjoyed the video. The bad news is that there is only one book in print and that is his collection of plant patterns. There are some other books but they are second hand and very expensive. The good news is the plant drawings are all available online for free - check out the comments and a viewer has supplied a link. And I'm sorry to say books aren't my thing - I actually don't like writing all that much. But it's flattering that you should suggest it.

Thanks - again.

Hello and many thanks for your comment and suggestion. It must be true that great minds think alike becuse background art has been on my 'to do' list for a while now. I've still got quite a few others as work in progress before I get round to it but providing a stay alive for a few more years I will be covering the subject. In the meantime do you know about Mary Blair and Eyvind Earle? Both great Disney artists. Thanks again for involving yourself in the channel.

@@petebeard Thanks for answering ! That's great ! I don't know these artists, I will look them up. I look forward to your next videos. As an amateur artist without any art education background, it's sometimes hard and time-consuming to get information about out of trend media that I like such as animation background art, or gouache/pastel pin-up illustration. While I regularily go admire and study the work of old masters in museums, it's rare to find exposed illustration art. Your videos are VERY inspirational to me and the fact that you have made so many of them is just awesome and shows how passionate you must be about sharing art wisdom. Thank you !

Hello and thanks. Sorry about the noise problem. It doesn't register on mine and nobody else has commented on it with this video. But a couple of other viewers have mentioned similar on some other videos and I have a feeling that some devices (for reasons I cant imagine) pick it up. No idea what to do about it I'm afraid.

@@petebeard No worries. I really dig the content. It was merely informative. Could've been a malfunction you weren't aware of.

Hello and I'm glad you enjoyed the video. I'm sorry to say that I was unable to find out anything useful about either of those pictures. The first is obviously a painting made for exhibition but it was just about the only example of his art rather than illustration or design I could find. The second is obviously printed lithographically so I would guess it's from a magazine, but again I could find no real information. If it's any help both are available at decent resolution via a google image search on Grasset.

Hello and thanks for your appreciation. I'm aware that I'm not covering art or design theory in any depth but that's because this is an illustration channel so other disciplines are peripheral to me. And the videos are intended to introduce the illustrators to a fairly ignorant world and I resolutelyand happily leave the analysis to those who know more.

Could be said *Art Nouveau* came from the work of the architect and writer *Eugene Emmanuel Viollet le Duc* who influenced the Art Nouveau architects Victor Horta, Hector Guimard, Antonio Gaudi*, Louis Sullivan and Frank Loyld Wright. Art Nouveau came from engineering and building construction. From there influencing other disciplines. Guessing, Grasset combined Moorish tesselation grid patterns, the El Hambra palace isn't too far from France, with psuedo-Orientalism from his travels in Egypt. * Gaudi used the catenary curve in his structures. Basically, he hung the two free ends of a cable from a ceiling and then photographed it. Turning the photo upside down gave him the diagram for the compression lines of force to build his arches. Don't think the golden mean came into play as much as other mathematical curves. Horta's whip lash line and others based on botany. Pete's approach of introducing graphics artists is a sound one as it develops a person's interest first. Then, the technical aspects come. The reverse would make people's eyes roll. First faith, beliefs, then verbal customs and finally crystalized codes or laws. Techniques come last. *Religion, Art, Science*

Paul Kelly Watched the Jay Goldstein link. From his lecture 59:15. " ... throwing off the *shackles* of design ..." Shackles as in chains. Chains being the grid lines Goldstein spent the last hour talking about. *?* Thanks for the link.

@@johannsmithe2570 ... I guess it's not for you then. I assume you didn't like it, though your sentiment isn't totally clear. At least you watched it all the way through (I presume). Well done. I found it quite illuminating and well worth my time. It's not that I don't appreciate and see the relevance of an historical framework but without the underlying physical structure - what you seem to think of as 'chains' (paraphrasing Goldstein; forgive me if I'm wrong) - it doesn't really reveal very much other than perhaps motive, colourful as it may be. When the thinking - the philosophy - underpinning a design is revealed a whole different world opens up... the music of the spheres, if you like. Another way to think about it is that art, when it communicates anything at all, does so from a foundation of logic. Whether that logic is an expression of some internal rationale yet to be deciphered - even by the artist himself (through psychoanalysis maybe) - or whether it has a basis in some universal truth, it is the difference between the apprentice and the master. Even Jackson Pollock seems to have understood these principles and used them to his advantage even when breaking new ground it seems (I'm no expert on JP, btw). My original point is that the classic fundamentals that originate in antiquity, seem to have been abandoned at some point in the late twentieth century and students of art and art criticism suffered a great loss in an attempt to throw off those shackles, as if their own natural genius would somehow reveal itself. For the most part it doesn't; design still depends on ancient fundamentals that are rarely taught early on, which is a great loss I think. At least that was my experience. but then I, like many others who imagined ourselves to be ground breaking revolutionaries (if only) might have grumbled either way. Some people do like a good grumble and I'm probably one of them. And thanks for replying, btw. Much appreciated.

@@RustyOrange71 Hello Paul Thought Jay Goldstein's use of the word *shackles* with its connotations ironic after spenting an hour talking about the 'Golden Mean' grid as design. Aye, dere bez da rub. *Who's design?* In his video at 1:00:10 he uses the Kenyon Cox quote on the blackboard *"Without design there may be representation, but there can be no art."* If Nature uses the Golden Mean as Goldstein said then a faithful representation of Nature would reflect the Golden Mean. Representation uses the Golden Mean. Jay Goldstein uses the Golden Mean in his 'design to make 'Art''. So, does representation. And, does it without his 'design theory'. *Therefore, it is not necessary to use his 'design' to make Art.* As I commented previousily 'technique' follows the making of art. Goldstein's design theory is technique. Theory, technique, does not make art. In fact a 'design theory' while providing a grid as scaffolding or, training wheels, for academic use if applied dogmatically can be restrictive and harmful holding one's work tethered to an arbitrary theory. Not dissing Jay Goldsrein's design theory but if he refers to it as 'shackles' then a further explanation is needed. Is it restrictive? Or, was it a Freudian slip? From your last comment in reference to Goldstein using the word 'shackles' what did you specifically mean by his *"motive"* ? Recap: Jay Goldstein's design theory is not the last word on design or art. Nor, is he a good representative of the 'Golden Mean' if he refes to it as shackles. P.s. The 1913 Amory Show in New York City introduced 20th century 'Modern European Art' into America. Would that 'Modernism' be the new 'art' of intuition without design you comment on? If so, why does Goldstein use Picasso and Matisse as examples in his design theory when they were the new Modern Art? Its beginning to appear Goldstein represents what you verbosely describe as an open-ended 'intuitive art' destroying 'Art' but he dones it by the opposite extreme of preventing creativity by restricting it to a limited theory of design while posing as an representive of the ominous term 'art' of the ages. Does Leonardo di Vinci's drawn figure Goldstein shows in the video look natural or, some rag doll contorted to some superimposed grid? Since it looks like it was compressed in a waffle iron, the latter. By your grid design the swastika symbol is dynamic symmetry.

Hello and yes I do know - he didn't. The poster you mention actually has a faint signature at botton right and seems to be 'Forestier'.

@@petebeard thanks so much for the reply

Hello again and thanks as usual for your comment. It does seem that many viewers were either unaware of him or like me didnt know much about him. Regarding the music it's generic and goes by the name no copyright melancholy piano on youtube. And I hope you will stick around for more now you've got to the end of the story so far.

Hello and thanks a lot for the comment. Regarding the noise a couple of others - presumably also using good quality headphones - have said the same thing. I've tried various fiddles with the software but given your comment obviously with no success. I'm technically clueless and fairly deaf so it's problematic for me. I suspect it's just that I use very cheap and flimsy headset to record the vocal. If I ever make any significant money out of this I'll try an upgrade.In the meantime can I just beg you to try to turn a blind ear or not use your superior device?