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There's no hope. The masses will keep on voting for the same two parties who are both: anti-British anti-family anti-small business anti-privacy anti-free speech anti-common sense

How refreshing to hear , once again, a realistic, common sense perspective from Peter Hitchens. I do not agree with him that the moral, cultural, and economic decline that we are experiencing is the result of stupidity. This decline is deliberate, meticulously planned, and well executed. All over the West simultaneously.

Drugs isn't the problem in Scotland its the SNP driving people to use drugs

Hitchens at his best. Small group, relaxed atmosphere, pub chat

Historian & Journalist, Peter Hitchens, has been writing books and writing articles for many years. At last, people are starting to realise that what he's been saying is correct. Now at the 11th hour it's time to react. If we don't, this country is finished for good.

'Two parties stiffened by rigor mortis holding each other up.' Brilliant stuff! Thank you. I have to commit that quote to memory and slot it into conversation. Peter, you never fail to keep me interested in your well chosen words, and, never more so than in this fascinating conversation. Thank you to all concerned.

I adore Peter Hitchens ❤️ both Hitchens brothers actually...

The war on drugs has failed because, as Hitchens says, it was never fought. Anybody who has ever been to a pub over the last few decades knows that is a fact.

Gentlemen, Well Done!!. Peter Hitchens is a force to be reckoned with and you gave us a highly enjoyable interview. Thank you!

I feel the struggle of the gentleman on the left. He tried so hard to get Peter to give a solid view on what the younger generation could do. But he didn’t get anywhere with Peter who is stuck in his ways. I literally know every Hitchens talking point off by heart, and when he goes off on his famous Segways i’m repeating it in my head as I’ve heard it all before. I just don’t think Peter understands that there are vast swathes of young people in this country who understand him & he’s talking point’s & it Just doesn’t cross his mind. For him the battle is done and the book is closed. But it’s not.

Well that cheered me up no end.

I have plenty of time for Hitchens and while not having come across Harrison Pitt before, I am impressed. In addition to his interesting line of thought, his calm tone is exemplary and he was very patient with PH. These younger conservatives give me reasons for hope.

Peter Hitchens is so much worth listening to. Greatly admired.

"British people will only remember Christ when the Islam ban the alcohol in the pubs". Chesterton.

My brother took his own life at the age of 31, in 1994. He had been smoking weed for several years. I had noticed how it affected his mood, he became distant and moody in the evenings, having been engaging and personable before his first daily smoke. I knew little about the drug at the time but I am now convinced that it was a factor in his tragic loss.

I always become energised at the prospect of a new Peter Hitchens interview. Thank you to the channel. I would love to see a Hitchens manifesto, along the lines of 12 Rules for a Conservative Life. Here’s hoping🤞🏻

I was addicted to cannabis for 14 years and quitting was a real challenge. All of the anxieties I was suppressing were brought to the surface and combined with withdrawals it was a challenging few months. Life has improved since then and I’ll never look back

Really enjoyed this discussion, everything Peter said is right, I have only recently found the New Culture Forum and like what I see and hear, lots of good debates and sensible discussions no shouting over each other so refreshing

A very enlightening conversation, indeed! Thanks to all of you!...

I read Peter"s book 'The abolition of britain' in 2000 and also 'The abolition of liberty'. I have always admired Peter kitchens as a man of conviction who has never backed down on the subject of drugs. Anyone who still argues for the legalisation of drugs when the evidence of the negative effects on society is overwhelming should be ridiculed.

Peter says young people should leave the UK but he never says where to. We aren't experiencing the fall of the UK, we are experiencing the fall of humanity, so there is no place of hope that I'm aware of.

Always box office Mr. Hitchens. Fantastic to see him back on the channel.

As an Englishmen living in Sweden , if someone had asked me previous to covid which country would likely lockdown , Sweden or Britain , I would without hesitation have said , Sweden. Lost all faith in the country of my birth.

Well done gentlemen, the best Peter Hitchens interview ever, precisely because you gave him the floor.

Hitches is the voice of reason. A man of high intellect and not just an attention seeking contrarian. His questioning of Lucy Letby’s guilt is a fine example of his intellect.

One thing young people can do instead of leaving is defending Christianity. I think it's about time to take a side. Even if you don't complete understand Christianity (who does?) and you're not completely convinced (how many are), look at the alternative - it's unthinkable.

My daughter hassuffered severe mental health problems because of taking drugs,including hachís.

Love Peter, his thinking, insight and humour. I hope he writes many more books

I have long been an admirer of Peter Hitchens and own all but two of his books. He is a fascinating commentator and always worth listening to, but I don't think any good can come of embracing his black pill message. Human beings thrive on hope and when I took his message to heart, I lost it. I became depressed and self-destructive. Hitchens is knowledgable and clever, but he doesn't have a crystal ball and he is too pessimistic about the future, about which he knows nothing; just like the rest of us. Instead of moping around and lamenting the damage done to this country, work to self-improve and make yourself stronger and more able to deal with whatever challenges life brings. When I stopped taking his word for gospel and realised that he has been wrong many times like everyone else, I became happier and more productive. Our parliamentary system allows for radical national self-correction. There is always hope that we as a people can force change. Listen to Hitchens, but don't deify him.

Love Peter he’s been consistently miserable 😂

The Long Shadow of Default by David James Gill is the book on Britain's unpaid war debts to the US that Peter couldn't remember.

The UK is finished, I left a while ago and I've watched it get worse day by day. When you have a police force that has lost drastic numbers, is weak, woke and ineffective (unless you call someone names on the internet) and no-one respects, thats the beginning of the end. Uncontrolled migration, 2 parties that are weak and no viable alternative have also contributed to the UK being on its knees. Its such a shame.

No green hair. No metal hanging out of their faces. Clean. Shaved . Tidy . Smart . Well dressed. Not fat and lazy. We have hope.

Is there hope? Answer = No. Reason = We have 2 parties both high tax, high spend, pro illegal immigration etc

Oh how I have enjoyed this. Thank you all so much. What a pleasure to see Harrison Pitt interviewing Peter Hitchens with such tact, care and respect ... and so evidently having done a lot of research beforehand. And almost uniquely among the young, now, Pitt has a good educated voice, which it is a pleasure to hear. Again: thank you. SCT

The legend Peter Hitchens, thanks!

How refreshing to hear Hitchens speak.

peter hitchens is truly a one off, regardless of who is interviewing him he always makes it difficult for them, unlike so many people he will always speak his mind and challenge the interviewer, he is absolutely correct about the state of the nation, it is a lost battle but in saying that we have to continue fighting

Dope is called dope for a good reason.

The happy pessimist speaks the truth. We need an American version. Excellent discussion and enlightening. Please continue.

Excellent discussion, gentlemen - thanks... ☝️😎

He’s having such a good time messing with you two .. ! Grumpy old man schtick tuned up to 11 on that day!

Love Peter..our country is done its long gone. high jacked with greed and fear.😢

I would also like to point out the figure massaging in cause of death. If a person jumps off a building because they are high, it will not be recorded as a drug death, but we would all agree that it wasn't really gravity at fault. And the number of suicides that happen under the influence. We have become a culture of enablers. That's all we are. And our children will eventually look at us and ask why.

Decriminalising is a fudge! I want to see the drugs taken completely out of the hands of the criminals! The question never asked, let alone answered, is? What is so terrible about our society that so many seek the escape through drugs?

My oh My, Peter is difficult to manage but a fantastic opportunity to enhance your considerable skills. Well done gentlemen.

Thank you Peter. Always interesting

Lockdowns, £9000 tutition fees, soaring national debt, higher taxes, unfordable housing, a unworkable rental market, a unsecure job market, stagnant wages. All the problems highlighted have been caused by a older generation and it is the youth that have to pay it all back!!

Superb interview

I like peter his story is one that I will never forget

Never ceases to make you think, especially on drugs policy (or lack of it) has made me question a lot of what I believed

Harrison, you did well to push back against this Jeremiah. There is still a fight worth fighting.

Brilliant.

It’s unstoppable, this acceptance and indulgence of drugs. Sad, but true.

What a grumpy old defeatist Hitchens is.

Peter Hitchens is the only journalist in the whole of British mainstream media I respect. I'm sure those in the establishment are desperate to censor him, but he knows how to keep a clean nose.

Its always been tough, but right now if you are a white working class male everyone and everything is against you in the West and places like the UK in particular. I was born into a council flat, managed to work hard and about a year after my Masters in 2017 (where I couldnt get an interview for Lidl let alone my field) left for East Asia where I have been able to create a life for myself and future children ten times better than would be possible back home. I have a car, a house, a happy marriage, no debt, high income and business opportunities and hope for the future in a non-woke traditional society. I only ever visit the UK to see family now, otherwise I would never go back. Fundamentally I can never live somewhere that permits hundred of illegal migrants to arrive each day and spends millions daily looking after them while the indigenous working class suffer. The threw core traits of Western governments that I see: 1) Short termism 2) Looking after the minority not the majority 3) Putting global interests and the rights of foreigners above those of their own people

I've recently flown back from the Irish West Coast to see family. I can say with confidence that it's no utopia, but it seems to be a better place for the hope of your children in comparison to London where I am

The fact is your parents or their parents dropped the Ball and those who were very focussed on that ball came in and picked it up ...we can either learn from this and get the ball back or we can play out the role of victims, the time for discussion is over the time to prepare and make sure the capacity to act is in place is calling. The Devil can only lead astray those who cannot see him when he appears.

Respect for debunking the falsehood of the so-called “special relationship”

We do know one thing about vaping - if it was aimed at weaning existing smokers off tobacco they would be pushing tobacco-flavoured vapes. It is, in fact, a way of encouraging young people to take it up and so the flavours are sweet - just like alco-pops.

I needed this dose of optimism.😂

Love what Peter Hitchens has to say but, Harrison, let your generation be the one to prove him WRONG 👍

I wonder if Mr Hitchens enjoyed his visit to Aylesbury this week - I said hello to him outside the bookshop at St Mary's Church.

Wow. I don't agree with Peter Hitchens' pessimism on the Second World War but he's otherwise brilliant and Harrison and Evan held their own bravely. By the way, will Harrison be donating his notebooks to the British Library - I feel, they need to be appropriately archived. Great show!

Hitchens thinks that "Marijuana" can be outlawed by going back to laws which pre-date the 1960's. Despite the fact that not only are there several millions of people that use it but that people can now grow it in their gardens and in their houses. His views on cannabis are an indulgent fantasy that he Pied Pipers others to follow (its the gateway drug to buying his book). It works in his head but is completely beyond the realms of 2023 reality. He doesn't address points which take him off his well rehearsed script (on Twitter) and simply ignores what he can't answer.

on the drugs issue i think i agree with peter..the mass social use of strong weed and party drugs has had a huge inpact on society, i myself know dozens that it effected short and long term but the attitude was to laugh it off to a degree in progressive circles I myself put some anxiety problems ive suffered down to this and my use was minimum compared to my peer group in the 90s early 2000s

Taking drugs is an absolutely understandable reaction to the realities of the human experience.

I am abnormal…I am so allergic to weed (I don’t know how to spell the correct name), if around it I immediately have an asthma attack. I was in Hammersmith today and had to escape rapidly because I couldn’t breathe. The fumes also affect my behaviour. I need to live on a pure island.

Hitchens is a legend

If you listen to the death penalty debate in America it points out how America is the only Advanced Western democracy which allows the punishment. The prefix to democracy seems surprisingly crass and puts down Japan, South-Korea and Taiwan who are all advanced democracies but are Asian and have the death penalty. Rank hypocrisy.

Great interview.

I am surprised that there might be members of the conservative party who are still Conservatives. I have since March 2019 given up all hope when after deadline after deadline we still were left with That Womans Withdrawal act. It was the nail in the coffin when, those whom I thought were staunch Conservatives, like JRM, VOTED at the third time of asking for Mays deal, proving he was much more a party loyalist than a true conservative. I simply could no longer stomache all those parliamentary votes, and was devastated on about April 15th that we were not to leave on No Deal terms, rather Boris who swore to leave Deal or No Deal in July, fleshed it out till October and signed up for a border down the Irish sea. It became apparent that Boris deal was Mays deal. The lying would continue, and so it does even more so today. What should happen now to these young but so few in number burgeoning Conservatives is, they should make it plain to the Conservative party voter that they are the elect Conservative remainder of what used to be a Conservative party, and that they were forming a new Conservative party and none, zero, nada, nicht nein of the existing MP's will be allowed to join the New Conservative party. Most Tory voters would vote for them. They are, after all, like baby ducklings on tik tok following their mother. The New Conservatives can align with Farage's Reform on the condition Tice resigns and Gerard Batten takes over. Then we can prevent the lib lab con green snp uni-parties from taking seats in parliament and change British politics forever. A new national Consevative And Unionist Party, re-uniting the four nations and extending an invitation to Southern Ireland to join hands would align with Batten's Reform party. Success. Let us pray God's will. Hitch you don't have to.

Great stuff lads

Great show,, The Hitch was funny .... I am in shock!!

As prophetic a man as Enoch Powell.

Some mention of British Goalism ? What are they talking about, both seemed to mutter the word and it went straight over my head because I didn’t hear clearly about 53 rd minute…please help .

He talks at the end about the broadcasting rules needing to be changed to have a chance at change in the party system. But the legacy system of broadcasting is rapidly becoming obsolete. In a few years time it will be irrelevant. The internet is the true battleground of ideas. Conservatives, being conservatives, tend to be way behind the times on stuff like that. But if they could keep up, then there might be a chance...

That was very good guys, well done all

Harrison, you could’ve turned up the heat another notch but, good job in pestering an backing Hopeless Hitchens up

57 minutes to be told,”you’re all doomed!”

I was born in 1976 it's my birthday today I'm 47 😮 I feel great my imagination and creative outlook is at its best! I was a Raver in the 90s a Rock Festival fan in the 00s took loads of happy stuff. I don't go near it now however I do have multiple personalities that do great things I never thought I could

Folks, there's a big difference between the drugs that befuddle the mind and tobacco. Of course, smoking isn't good for your health, but you can still function and raise a family. Try using heroin and that drug not destroying your character.

I didn’t quite catch what was referred to at about 53:05…”British ……………” British what? Can anyone enlighten me? Thanks in anticipation.

Brilliant!

Hitchens is the best mumble rapper of all time.

I live in Japan, and was glad to escape the nonsense that comes along with having a significant amount of your population as drugees when I came here. Being anti-drugs is very ingrained in the population here and I think they're going to hold out. I really hope they. The lack of anti-social behaviour and other crimes that are increasingly common in the West are really noticeable. There are other reasons too, of course, but I do think the lack of readily available drugs helps keep this country (and of course it's not without it's faults) a socially respectable place. Stoners (such as who I used to be) always go on about Japan's history with weed (weirdly talking about hemp products rather than the drug they're trying to legalize), but in my reading of Japanese culture, I think amphetamines and the like would be more popular here

Hitchens is very entertaining as ever, but I wonder if anyone can elaborate on his, to me bizarre, claim that neither Thatcher or Reagan was a conservative? What were they then ?

How come Peter, children who have dozens of fits a day only have one or two fits if they are prescribed medicinal cannabis?

Tories out. Labour in. Empty the Southern hemispheres slowly whilst sending the youth off to fight in War… That’s their plan anyway, cause they don’t have any other ideas.

“There no such thing as addiction” right Peter 😅

In a better world he would be the prime minister

Vote reform

I was born in Yugoslavia. If you ask me, we had a lot of fun. But we had open borders. Regularly shopping in Italy or Austria. We earned less, but we had plenty of time to make money on the side.

A very moral viewpoint on drugs that I find very interesting and quite unique in this day and age. I can't bring myself to agree with him though unfortunately.

I agree with all his points on drugs, however to say there's no such thing as addiction is palpably false. There are clear brain changes associated with addiction, not to mention physical withdrawal from opioids, benzos etc. If addiction isn't real, why are those who have been sexually abused as children more likely to be long-term drug users than those who had happy childhoods?

I don't know he's talking to the kids he might be kindly grandfather tonight.

Germany is in the same bout as the UK.

Peter Hitchens (boozed, speech slurring): "I like a beer."