Pilot chute in tow

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Elena Kan

Elena Kan

7 жыл бұрын

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@JustMe-999a
@JustMe-999a 14 күн бұрын
If I didn't wingsuit and base jump, I'd have a pullout for sure
@GamingLeguan
@GamingLeguan 8 ай бұрын
This shit happened to me two days ago on my 15th jump lol
@bigtig1234567
@bigtig1234567 6 жыл бұрын
Probably this should be practiced on the ground ans the time measured to do it, once the risers are loose then a cutaway is always safe(apart from horseshoe mal of course in which the pilot chute should be released)
@benbazy9238
@benbazy9238 Жыл бұрын
Spaceland teaches this as a total malfunction and to go straight to reserve
@fleafrier1
@fleafrier1 Жыл бұрын
That was how I had made up my mind to deal with it back when I used to skydive. Glad I never had to though. Also as a working joe, I never tossed my cutaway & reserve handles because they were too expensive.
@jumpmasterjm
@jumpmasterjm Жыл бұрын
The USPA recognizes both methods as valid, each having its advantages and disadvantages
@jaffacalling53
@jaffacalling53 Жыл бұрын
@@jumpmasterjm What are the advantages of cutting away in this situation? I could see how it might be better just to teach a student one method so as not to confuse them and waste precious altitude during a high speed malfunction, but besides that why would you ever want to cut away a total malfunction?
@AldorEricsson
@AldorEricsson Жыл бұрын
@@jaffacalling53 Dynamic shock when opening the reserve can easily dislodge the main's pin, and you will have two out. In the worst case, your main will open into your reserve and mess it up.
@Creonboy
@Creonboy 6 жыл бұрын
was the whole chute supposed to come out when he pulled the cord? I notice that some skydivers release the pilot chute straight after exit of the craft and have it trailing for the whole freefall? and then they pull the chord again and the trailing pilot chute helps drag the chute out and open. What is happening here in this video? Thanks.
@stopspinskydiving
@stopspinskydiving 6 жыл бұрын
You're thinking of a tandem jump where the Tandem instructor deploys a drogue chute during freefall. The purpose of this is to slow the tandem pair to a speed as if they were just a single jumper. A single jumper doesn't throw a pilot chute until deployment time. In a perfect jump of a single jumper, which almost all are, when the pilot chute is pitched, it grabs good, clean air and is pulled upward, pulling the bridle from the bridle cover on the side of the rig. When the bridle has reached line length, it pulls the closing pin from the closing loop. 4 flaps open and the deployment bag, which is connected to the bridle lifts out of the container as the bridle continues line length. The lines that are stowed on the deployment bag begin to pop out of the stowes as the d bag continues line length. Once all the stowes are released, the d bag is pulled off the canopy or from the other direction if you wanna look at it that way, the canopy is pulled from the d bag. The lines that were stowed are connected to the canopy on one end and the risers on the other. The risers pull out of the container by releasing either tuck tabs or magnetic covers. Air fills the nose cells of the canopy and the canopy begins to inflate. All this happens, to a perfectly flying canopy, within 3-5 seconds in a perfect world. In this case, when the pilot chute was pitched, it done it's job, but something was causing the closing pin not to be able to be pulled from the closing loop, resulting in a pilot chute in tow.
@admiralbenbow5083
@admiralbenbow5083 Жыл бұрын
Tandems do that. One for stability. Two for speed reduction.
@jumpmasterjm
@jumpmasterjm Жыл бұрын
@@admiralbenbow5083 Speed reduction only. Stability is supposed to be achieved through good body position and flying by the instructor. That's done on every jump before the drogue is thrown.
@bigtig1234567
@bigtig1234567 6 жыл бұрын
Pilot chute in tow is potentially fatal. If the reserves pilot chute or free bag gets tangled with TH we pilot chute the only option is to roll on your back and pull the reserve out . This assumes you have altitude to do this. It is much safer to open high to allow a margin, and pull the bridle , open the closing pin manually , and or wiggle the d bag out of the container and then pull the cutaway if the deployment is bad.
@northbaseuk882
@northbaseuk882 6 жыл бұрын
Watched a seminar with John Leblanc at the BPA expo a few weeks ago. He showed us a video of trying to get both the main and the reserve pilot chute to interact with each other whilst simultaneously deploying both. Try as they might PD couldn't get an interaction, over dozens of jumps. John even said it began to annoy him how he couldn't get anything to happen. It's chopping away 2 out that causes issues. As for pulling the pin manually by the bridal well - this can only work if your pilot chute isn't cocked and generating enough force to begin the deployment sequence. If a cocked PC isn't pulling the pin with it's 70+ lbs of force then your arm behind your back definitely will not. Don't waste time messing about, just pull the reserve.
@jumpmasterjm
@jumpmasterjm Жыл бұрын
A bunch of people have bounced tugging on that pilot chute bridle. Just pull your reserve
@admiralbenbow5083
@admiralbenbow5083 Жыл бұрын
Some of these "instruction" videos really are very hard to watch especially considering whoever posted them is setting themselves up to be experienced and knowlegeable. Did anyone notice the way the reserve pilot chute played around in the burble of the main pilot chute before it finally pulled out the reserve ??? What do you think would have happened if they got tangled up together ??? The answer, in case you havent already got there before I type this is that the chap on the film would almost certainly be in the process of making his last skydive. Can anyone who does me the favour of reading this suggest an alternative approach to this very very basic problem ??
@dediver
@dediver Жыл бұрын
No, there's no alternative approach that wouldn't include huge downsides itself. The reserve PC here wasn't really trapped into the burble (also: It was not a burble caused by the main PC but a burble caused by the Skydiver itself). I've seen (and experienced) much worse hesitations of spring loaded pilot chutes. Whenever you launch a spring loaded PC vom a belly position, you'll never now what will happen. Most of the times the PC will launch pretty fast. I some cases it will dance around into the burble and in some rare cases the hesitation lasts for a couple of seconds. Decades ago, Relative Workshop (today known as UPT) introduced the balloon reserve PC. They claimed that it would perform much better in these situations. I'm not sure. I've also seen hesitations of these pilot chutes. Additionally, other people claimed that this special construction would come with it own problems, namely a reduced drag that could (!) result in hesitations in low speed cutaways (which are much more common than high speed malfunctions). So, dealing with a large burble caused of a belly flying skydiver is not an easy task for gear manufacturers. As soon as you solve one problem, you can create another problem. So, alternatively, what could the Skydiver do in this situation? He could lean a little bit to the side to reduce the burble - in this case, you never know, if the main PC would be also released - so, you could create another problem. Skydiving is a risky activity. In my opinion, the goal should be to prevent pc in tow malfunctions and/or horshoe malfunctions as follows: - Always pull in a good, stable body position. Practice stable pulls and a good release of the main pc. - Double check, if the main PC was properly cocked. - Be sure that your gear is in good shape. Wear and tear especially of the following components is critical: Main pc, kill line, bridle, main-pin and loop. - Be sure that the bridle is routed properly. - Be sure that the main PC is packed well (no hard pull, no excess bridle coming undone)
@benbazy9238
@benbazy9238 Жыл бұрын
He has a 3rd canopy on his waist
@admiralbenbow5083
@admiralbenbow5083 Жыл бұрын
@@benbazy9238 Does he really?
@timmyingelbrecht6977
@timmyingelbrecht6977 Жыл бұрын
Yes, they have 3 canopys because they intentionally created a malfunction in the first, for demonstration
@AlexMackMir
@AlexMackMir 3 ай бұрын
Локтями по нему, что не постучал?
@gavinmcveigh2618
@gavinmcveigh2618 Жыл бұрын
Very bad way off cutting away 👎🏻
@timmyingelbrecht6977
@timmyingelbrecht6977 Жыл бұрын
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