Pilot Forgets Thrust During Go Around

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Жыл бұрын

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Kuwait Boeing 777 failed go around attempt
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Airbus A350 maximum bank angle test
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Airbus A321 go around from cockpit perspective
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Delta Airbus A350 super smooth landing in Amsterdam
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Boeing 747-400 in cruise filmed by a pilot
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@warped2875
@warped2875 Жыл бұрын
Isn't a go-around without thrust just called a landing?! 😆😉
@webza77
@webza77 Жыл бұрын
This is fake news. You're correct with your observation.
@hiddenguy67
@hiddenguy67 Жыл бұрын
yep
@christopher-bj8de
@christopher-bj8de Жыл бұрын
An unexpected landing.
@tonyt8805
@tonyt8805 Жыл бұрын
😂 😂 😂 😂 😂
@oldsnwbrdr
@oldsnwbrdr Жыл бұрын
The exact remark I was about to make…
@gcm747
@gcm747 Жыл бұрын
That Delta A350 landing was so smooth the pax probably didn’t realise they’d touched down till the reverse thrust was engaged!
@OPPLAYER57_YT
@OPPLAYER57_YT Жыл бұрын
As well as the spoilers going up they are always pretty loud
@grahammonk8013
@grahammonk8013 Жыл бұрын
Delta doesn't have the best reputation, but their pilots seem to be pretty good. That Kuwati pilot needs more training. Forgetting the thrust?
@User34456
@User34456 Жыл бұрын
The struts going down vibrate the fuselage I believe
@williampliss9879
@williampliss9879 Жыл бұрын
How does a pilot forget the thrust?? That’s like me trying to pass a semi on the interstate and forgetting to touch the throttle
@masacardenas
@masacardenas Жыл бұрын
I flew Delta into Amsterdam around 4 years ago. It was the smoothest landing I ever felt. Can confirm I was waiting for it to hit for a second, not realizing it was already on the ground!
@xyroah
@xyroah Жыл бұрын
That delta landing was so smooth loved it. I once had such a smooth landing on a jet airways flight where I was unaware that we had landed until i felt the plane slowing down
@yoyoyoyoshua
@yoyoyoyoshua Жыл бұрын
Delta doesn't seem too bad when it comes to landing smooth. I flew on an A350 with Vietnam Airlines and they landed hard both times I flew on them where Delta was pretty smooth. Have videos of the landings on my channel if you want to see.
@phj223
@phj223 Жыл бұрын
That was like massive no wipe dump 😲 glorious 😇
@BEHEMOTH20
@BEHEMOTH20 Жыл бұрын
So smooth most passengers still had their window shades closed and didn't realise it was landing.
@rickfeng4466
@rickfeng4466 Жыл бұрын
I don’t fly often enough so I don’t have that many smooth landing experience. But one was with Air Transat’s A310 from Quebec City to Montreal. Exactly like described, did not realize we are already on the ground until deceleration. 🧈 and it was pouring rain that night in Montreal.
@praneelsingh7633
@praneelsingh7633 Жыл бұрын
DUDEE GoAir had like the smoothest take-off where you couldn't feel the G forces and you wouldn’t know that you had taken off unless you saw out the window ( this might be over exaggerated for dramatic effect )
@stt5v2002
@stt5v2002 Жыл бұрын
The rarest aviation video on KZfaq - the ultra smooth landing. Thanks for including that one. I remember experiencing one such landing as a passenger. It was so soft that I could barely even perceive the landing. It was a little odd actually, because my brain had the impression that we were still in flight a couple feet off the runway when we had already touched down.
@richard-mtl
@richard-mtl Жыл бұрын
So when I saw the title for the smooth landing, I thought, "Come on, how smooth could it be that it's worthy of being included here?". And then I saw it. Wow, it's like the plane just floated to the ground like a feather.
@lennykibet6689
@lennykibet6689 Жыл бұрын
Same. Thought the exact same thing till I saw it. Rewatched it 5 times after that.
@felixx321
@felixx321 Жыл бұрын
What does your title show? For me it doesnt show anything about a smooth landing
@richard-mtl
@richard-mtl Жыл бұрын
@@felixx321 I meant the title slide right before that particular clip.
@sujoy9220
@sujoy9220 Жыл бұрын
The Kuwait airlines really "Air dropped" 💀
@galactical3110
@galactical3110 Жыл бұрын
Oh hell no 💀
@AverageReviewsYT
@AverageReviewsYT Жыл бұрын
You know them fuckers felt that landing lol
@nordicwolf8808
@nordicwolf8808 Жыл бұрын
It seemed like a late landing.
@WhiskeyGulf71
@WhiskeyGulf71 Жыл бұрын
Looked like a very smooth & controlled landing, the sort of landing done if reverse thrust is unavailable.
@AverageReviewsYT
@AverageReviewsYT Жыл бұрын
If any of you get the chance. The context that’s all over the screen tells what happened. And from what I can see.. that lil bounce is exhilarating for passengers lol def not a butter landing at all, and I’m sure someone complained.. because.. why not.. 😆😆😆
@badbob1982
@badbob1982 Жыл бұрын
That Delta landing was beautiful. Reminds me of a BA landing into GLA in a very heavy fog. We had been descending for what felt like forever, and I was aware of the standard turns onto final north through north west through west to south west over the Campsie Hills. But seen absolutely nothing of the ground. Even in poor weather you usually see the hills where the last turn is made as it’s only a couple of thousand feet below. Anyway, that pilot came in so smooth in that fog, I wasn’t aware we had landed until he used the reverse thruster. 12/10 smoothest landing ever.
@david1731048
@david1731048 Жыл бұрын
Smooth because it was a full zero vis autoland with the computer doing all the work!
@hudziszeq
@hudziszeq Жыл бұрын
Well sorry to ruin your vision about the pilot of this particular flight, but you mentioned yourself the visibility was very low due to the fog so it was ILS approach with autoland, so all kudos to engineers rather than a pilot in that case.
@verifiedtoxicangel2411
@verifiedtoxicangel2411 Жыл бұрын
12/10 ? why not 14/10 or 56/10 or 200658/10 ? well, i guess 10/10 is gone out of style
@johnwilliams3075
@johnwilliams3075 Жыл бұрын
Probably an ex-Air Force pilot. "I've got 10,000 feet of runway, why wouldn't I use all of it?" I always said the Navy ones will get you down safely in any condition, but they WILL put that [darn] thing right down on the numbers every time. Every. Time.
@flyingreindeer7097
@flyingreindeer7097 Жыл бұрын
It was an auto land not the pilot if it was bad fog
@Kilosim
@Kilosim Жыл бұрын
The Delta landing was BUTTER
@spychopath
@spychopath Жыл бұрын
I like how the 747's wing vortices stack the engine contrails atop each other.
@youwebz
@youwebz Жыл бұрын
No. Next to each other. Not on top
@cspace1234nz
@cspace1234nz Жыл бұрын
....the conspiracy theorists will be loving those chem-trails !!
@tomstamford6837
@tomstamford6837 Жыл бұрын
@@cspace1234nz You took the words right out of my mouth. Though I don't see many of them around on this channel - they like to harass space and moon landing channels. Although, they would probably pick up on you referring to them as 'chem-trails' and go, "Ah ha! Gotcha... so you admit they're _chem_ trails?"
@bmolitor615
@bmolitor615 Жыл бұрын
@@cspace1234nz yeah, those were MAXIMUM chemtrails being laid down to, uuuhhh, subdue the populace or what the heck ever...
@cspace1234nz
@cspace1234nz Жыл бұрын
@@bmolitor615 ….population control 🤣🤣🤣
@jim2lane
@jim2lane Жыл бұрын
The first one looked like a wind shear scenario. With severe wind shear you can have max thrust applied and still be squashed back into the runway
@MegaLaase
@MegaLaase Жыл бұрын
You are right. I saw a Video from a Pilot and he explained that it was a Wind Shear and that could generate more (Uplift?). Its also possible that they Set some Thrust and so they can "Fly through the Wind Shear"
@appleglory
@appleglory Жыл бұрын
He definitely did not have thrust on
@jessewoolley5421
@jessewoolley5421 Жыл бұрын
May be air braking as well?
@nicgeld
@nicgeld Жыл бұрын
@Jimbo that can happen, but not in this case. You can hear the engines are at an idle/low power setting.
@nicgeld
@nicgeld Жыл бұрын
@@MegaLaase if it was actual windshear then they would have highly likely got the warning earlier and performed a go around. Also, unless the auto throttle is u/s, it would have automatically set the thrust, which would be at idle during the flare.
@gwiyomikim5988
@gwiyomikim5988 Жыл бұрын
During the bank angle segment I was hoping to hear the “bank angle” “bank angle” annunciator. I just love that!🥰
@tiguilherman_plays
@tiguilherman_plays Жыл бұрын
right??? pretty sure all pilots in a real life emergencies hearing this feel the same!!!! 🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰 so soothing!!! 🥰🥰🥰🌈🌞🌞
@johnandrews3568
@johnandrews3568 Жыл бұрын
same
@DrVink86
@DrVink86 Жыл бұрын
@@tiguilherman_plays lmao
@TheUtuber999
@TheUtuber999 Жыл бұрын
I'm glad you like the angle, Gwiyomi.
@tomstamford6837
@tomstamford6837 Жыл бұрын
If you want to hear "bank angle" you might like this if you haven't come across it already.
@perbilse573
@perbilse573 Жыл бұрын
That Delta landing was superb. It reminded me of the smoothest landing ever, about 25 years ago. I was working in Amsterdam and would be in the US on business a few times every year, invariably flying KLM 747s (nice) or Northwest DC-10s (not so much) from and to Schiphol. Wind at Schiphol is easily a bit difficult, but I nevertheless felt KLM and Northwest were a bit rough and ready, as in "landing is merely a means to an end." One time my return flight was overbooked and I was put on a Sabena A340 to Zaventem (Brussels), and I swear I could have built a house of cards that would have stayed upright all the way. I didn't realise we had touched down until I felt the front of the aircraft slowly lowering and then ... the lowering ... faded away. If somebody had told me it was Yehudi Menuhin landing the plane by bowing a Stradivarius with goose down ... I obviously wouldn't have believed it. But there would have been a nagging doubt. :-)
@miks564
@miks564 Жыл бұрын
Delta guys are kings of the smooth landings
@wallyman292
@wallyman292 Жыл бұрын
touched down like a butterfly with sore feet, as they say!
@theonethatasked397
@theonethatasked397 Жыл бұрын
KLM Are the kings too.
@austinosborne9621
@austinosborne9621 Жыл бұрын
Delta boys are a bunch of undisciplined cowboys.
@mark675
@mark675 Жыл бұрын
@@wallyman292 who's they?
@wallyman292
@wallyman292 Жыл бұрын
@@mark675 Those familiar with butterflies and their foot ailments, I imagine. . .
@twisterwiper
@twisterwiper Жыл бұрын
Schipol is scary in windy conditions. It’s very flat with some crazy gusts sometimes. Landed once where I was sure the wingtip would touch the ground, but luckily the pilot put us down safely 😮
@theglitch312
@theglitch312 Жыл бұрын
All those runways and they always seem to use the worst one to use.
@xVoLxPaYnE
@xVoLxPaYnE Жыл бұрын
Lol OP has never been to GFK...
@OntarioTrafficMan
@OntarioTrafficMan Жыл бұрын
@@theglitch312 They use the polderbaan to minimise nuisance for nearby residents.
@Kj_Gamer2614
@Kj_Gamer2614 Жыл бұрын
@@theglitch312not at all? They use the best runway for the wind conditions, and often prefer the polderbaan over the other runways because it minimises noise for residents even if the taxi time takes ages after that
@Silo-Ren
@Silo-Ren Жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas and thank for this year's best three minutes of aviation on KZfaq. 🎅
@sanddabz5635
@sanddabz5635 Жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas to you!
@stephanpharai4666
@stephanpharai4666 Жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas and thanks for all your videos you have filmed for all of us around the world
@aviation_sean9839
@aviation_sean9839 Жыл бұрын
If anything, the Kuwait pilot was an accidental genius who managed to land in those conditions thanks to his mistake, all be it slightly harder than you’d like, but aye a landing where you’re on the runway in one piece, is a good landing!
@flyingbarbarian1
@flyingbarbarian1 Жыл бұрын
Very similar to the Emirates 777‘s incident.
@AviationShots._
@AviationShots._ Жыл бұрын
Absolutely correct, but this time the pilots were lucky enough that the main gears touched down and started braking...
@LMays-cu2hp
@LMays-cu2hp Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing these beautiful aircraft flying..
@Miata822
@Miata822 Жыл бұрын
Your videos have gotten better throughout the year.
@iluvhousemuzik
@iluvhousemuzik Жыл бұрын
The smoothest Delta landing I’ve seen.
@ElectricPics
@ElectricPics Жыл бұрын
I don’t think for one second a pilot ‘forgot’ to either activate TOGA or manually move the throttles after confirming go around. It was just a flaky landing.
@segredosdotiosam9989
@segredosdotiosam9989 Жыл бұрын
Google Emirates 521.
@eaglesfan19029
@eaglesfan19029 Жыл бұрын
In regards to your comment about contrails. They're formed when the exhaust meets high water vapor in the atmosphere that didn't turn into a cloud yet as the super-cooled water vapor didn't have a chance to freeze onto condensation nuclei.
@rohan-ghosh
@rohan-ghosh Жыл бұрын
just curious, how does one know if the pilot really wanted to do a go around in the first video?
@strato6049
@strato6049 Жыл бұрын
Unusually high nose attitude during flare. If it was landing after the initial seconds they would slowly put the nose down but as seen in the video the nose was kept up which is when you want to go around
@scottieswave300
@scottieswave300 Жыл бұрын
@@strato6049 Not necessarily. He might have been wanting to have a smooth landing. Not a good idea on a wet runway due to risk of aqua planning. We actually want a firm landing to break the surface tension and have control. Firm, but not hard. If we go around we press TO/GA buttons on the throttles which in this aircraft automatically advances the throttles. So no, the pilots did not want to go around in all likelihood. Should they have gone around? That is the question. Its hard to say from this video but normally we land in the touchdown zone markings. 9 times out of 10 if we haven't landed by the end of the markings we would go around, especially if the runway is wet. But Captains discretion came into effect here and I am sure a good debrief afterwards.
@uditabhattacharya2824
@uditabhattacharya2824 Жыл бұрын
so early don't know what to comment except I missed aerosucre here
@Governmentisevil
@Governmentisevil Жыл бұрын
Contrails dissipate fairly quickly....they don't hang around for hours and spread out into clouds.
@sailorman8668
@sailorman8668 Жыл бұрын
Perhaps then, you can give us the 'science' of why a condensation is required to dissipate fairly quickly?
@EannaButler
@EannaButler Жыл бұрын
Season’s Greetings to all! Thanks for all the uploads 👍
@sanddabz5635
@sanddabz5635 Жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas!
@mattball2700
@mattball2700 Жыл бұрын
That 747 bit was magical. TY!
@desmond-hawkins
@desmond-hawkins Жыл бұрын
I see you replaced the audio from that Schiphol "landing", there are two videos of it and it looks like the clip here uses the audio from the other capture. The original audio features someone astonished by what the pilots did, going "What the fuuuuck! What the fuck was that?!!". Great content as always! This channel is so consistent in its quality.
@EasyModeFishing
@EasyModeFishing Жыл бұрын
That Kuwait landing looked pretty good to me
@TheRealBlackYoda
@TheRealBlackYoda Жыл бұрын
Love that the content mentioned in title is always the first clip. Pure KZfaq orgasms there.
@AlfonsoRiveraJr
@AlfonsoRiveraJr Жыл бұрын
Love them buttery smooth landings 😎
@jimf4748
@jimf4748 Жыл бұрын
It looked like a normal landing. Very hard to forget thrust during a go around as they just select TOGA.
@athgt6630
@athgt6630 Жыл бұрын
An Emirates crew did the same with slightly worse outcomes.
@StarHorseLover2012
@StarHorseLover2012 Жыл бұрын
@@athgt6630 Exactly.
@boltar2003
@boltar2003 Жыл бұрын
Yup. Looks to me like it he flared it to slow down faster and drop the wheels a bit harder to break through the water on the runway.
@stans2244
@stans2244 Жыл бұрын
@@athgt6630 The Emirates crew did select TOGA, but on the 777 it doesn't always activate thrust when doing so.
@DeathByPancake7
@DeathByPancake7 Жыл бұрын
I’d like to see the pilots response to this kids summery of the video. I highly doubt they were going around but I mean the kids who make these videos always jump to conclusions without any credible source 😂
@robertbate5790
@robertbate5790 Жыл бұрын
Wow!! A perfect landing, now that's a rarity, lol 👍👍👍
@jeremypilot1015
@jeremypilot1015 Жыл бұрын
@1:35 that was really rude of the aircraft to start calling the pilot such awful names. I mean he was doing his best it was really windy!
@Michael-zp5du
@Michael-zp5du Жыл бұрын
That A350 landing was pure 🧈
@FrankMuenker
@FrankMuenker Жыл бұрын
How do you know it was an attempted go-around?
@markabb1
@markabb1 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting your comment. You hit the nail on the head. He doesn’t know, but he thinks he knows, and is too arrogant to ask for comments to provide possible explanations.
@hughjass1044
@hughjass1044 Жыл бұрын
@@markabb1 The fact that the plane was no longer descending in the way it should for a normal landing would be the first clue. There's also the fact that someone could have... you know... told him it was. There's like a million ways you could know.
@outermarker5801
@outermarker5801 Жыл бұрын
@@hughjass1044 There's also many reasons for vertical speed to bottom out resulting in a float. Occam's razor
@jiubboatman9352
@jiubboatman9352 Жыл бұрын
@@outermarker5801 Entities should not be unnecessarily be multiplied or the hypothesis making the fewest assumptions is generally more likely to be correct? A trained pilot forgetting to program TOGA and advance the throttles makes more assumptions than a mistimed flare. No further information in the source video, other than a lot of swearing.
@outermarker5801
@outermarker5801 Жыл бұрын
@@jiubboatman9352 Exactly. Where anyone gets the gargantuan mental leap 'attempted go around, forgot TO/GA' from is beyond me 🤷‍♂️ Maybe the uploader was in the jump seat and saw it all 🤣
@storm-aircorporation6540
@storm-aircorporation6540 Жыл бұрын
Delta was quite a beautiful landing.
@boeingpilot7002
@boeingpilot7002 Жыл бұрын
The Volaris go-around was on approach to RWY 05R at Mexico City. Winds there can get kinda tricky.
@walkie1985
@walkie1985 Жыл бұрын
It was entirely fictitious as it was a computer game not reality.
@andrekoscianski
@andrekoscianski Жыл бұрын
Hey, December 24, and here's a new video for us! Thank you and Merry Xmas!!!
@Andrea82bs
@Andrea82bs Жыл бұрын
Isn't the Volaris a flight simulator video?
@owenklein1917
@owenklein1917 Жыл бұрын
When I do a long haul flight in my sim, getting a smooth landing is the most satisfying feeling ever.
@brianwilson8983
@brianwilson8983 Жыл бұрын
Oh ok thanks
@juliaflights
@juliaflights Жыл бұрын
Wow 🤩 nice landing Delta 👍
@ryanfrisby7389
@ryanfrisby7389 Жыл бұрын
Great video
@wingflex5367
@wingflex5367 Жыл бұрын
I don't think that was intended to be a go around, just a steep flare. Just my opinion
@Plowman360
@Plowman360 Жыл бұрын
I dont believe the first one was a go around attempt. Looked like a very high flare. One does not “forget” go around thrust.
@thestrangeman069
@thestrangeman069 Жыл бұрын
Right, especially with 2 or even 3 pilots in the cockpit.
@RealCEO
@RealCEO Жыл бұрын
If you're upset somebody called you something, just remember the pilots get shat on every time they land 1:36
@GoodEveningDota
@GoodEveningDota Жыл бұрын
That Delta landing is one of the landings ever
@BariumCobaltNitrog3n
@BariumCobaltNitrog3n Жыл бұрын
really?
@corvettekro818
@corvettekro818 Жыл бұрын
Just a quick note - the Kuwait B777 is not attempting a G/A - its just doing a long flare..... and the Volaris A321 is not encountering any windshift - they are doing and non-precision (non ILS) approach, and with a bit of tailwind it seems - they get long in the flare and decide to G/A at the end of the touchdown zone - just as they should and the G/A seems to be executed very nicely.
@Pempel2000
@Pempel2000 Жыл бұрын
If the Volaris really did encounter a windshear, the annunciator for that must have been broken and they would have done the wrong procedure, as the PF called for go-around flaps. In a windshear encounter you would not change the config while going around. So probably just a normal go-around... but that doesn't sound so catchy....
@DaveHines1
@DaveHines1 Жыл бұрын
2:30 That’s why planes should have four engines 😃
@sonquatsch8585
@sonquatsch8585 Жыл бұрын
that delta landing was absolute fire.
@JuteTwine
@JuteTwine Жыл бұрын
Notice how the contrails (2:33) from the outboard engines wrap around and over the contrails from the inboard engines. That's a strong clue about how wings generate lift.
@TheDoogman
@TheDoogman Жыл бұрын
the foil hat wearers will only believe those are chemtrails
@keithhendrickson8522
@keithhendrickson8522 Жыл бұрын
Just curious, how do you know the first plane was trying to go around? Looked to me like he just broke out of the fog, flared a bit much, and floated.
@nicgeld
@nicgeld Жыл бұрын
He doesn’t know. You can clearly hear (or not, actually) that the engines are spooled down.
@tonamg53
@tonamg53 Жыл бұрын
The plane’s attitude is way too high to be a normal flare for landing. Also, you will usually see the nose lower a little bit if the plane floated. Here it seems the pilot was trying to make the plane climb and probably had the yoke all the way back for the entire video. (777 do have anti-tail strike system which will limit the attitude when close to the ground)
@keithhendrickson8522
@keithhendrickson8522 Жыл бұрын
@@tonamg53 Why would anybody try to go around by pitching up but not also add power? All they would have had to do is hit TOGA on the throttle. Besides, when airliners go around, they pitch up to around 15 degrees. This plane is less than 10 at best. When you break out at minimums and go visual it does weird things to your brain. Airliners don't stall into the runway, they fly into it. With the extra speed they carry, a few degrees of extra flare with throttle off would produce the exact situation I see here, a plane floating a bit too far and dropping as it runs out of air speed.
@nicgeld
@nicgeld Жыл бұрын
@@tonamg53 1) if he was trying to climb then he would have applied thrust, 2) lowering the nose when you are floating is an absolute no, which they teach you in your initial PPL training already, 3) not all 777s have tail strike protection.
@tonamg53
@tonamg53 Жыл бұрын
@@keithhendrickson8522 Btw, the 777 300 ER will tail strike at 10 degrees pitch when on the ground. So yes with the tail strike protection… It will only allow the pilot to pull just under 10 degrees pitch max at that height. Normal lift off pitch for 777-300ER is 8.5 degrees and 14 degrees at V2+15… meaning the plane is usually already around 100 feet or more above ground at 15 degrees pitch. Touch down pitch is usually less than 3 degrees, around 5-6 degrees if you fuk up or extreme weather condition. More than 6 degrees and the pilot monitoring probably will think you are trying to go around without telling him…
@AM.Boxing
@AM.Boxing Жыл бұрын
2:16 closed windows. What were the flight attendant doing
@ge2623
@ge2623 Жыл бұрын
Defending themselves.
@MrMonteillard
@MrMonteillard Жыл бұрын
To all the armchair pilots : The 777 inhibits TOGA switches below 3ft (maybe 2, I’d have to check) so you need to manually advance the thrust. This pilot forgot to. Emirates did it as well, but retracted the gear in the mean time, worse outcome. That A350 landing was around 14s from flare to touch down, at 70m/s that’s about 1km of runway he’ll never get back, and most likely should have been a go around and they will get a call by someone. That A320 landing, the pilot called go around flaps which is sometimes SOP, but in a balked landing you should wait for thrust to retract the flaps. If I have to go around after flare is initiated, I would call go around, and when engines have spooled up, call flaps. Also limit the pitch to 10° on the A321 until enough ground separation is reached.
@22airjordan1
@22airjordan1 Жыл бұрын
The Kuwait airplane did not forget go around thrust. They flew through a localized heavy downdraft and or Microburst. They held pitch attitude. Once clear of the weather on the other side the airplane will lose significant performance and will then drop to the runway. To Avoid a tailstrike the pilot lowered the nose and let the mains touch and landed. The argument here could be that they should have just performed a go around rather than try to "save" the landing. This visibility was probably poor and the pilot may have lost sight of the runway momentarily
@BruiserFL
@BruiserFL Жыл бұрын
Volaris A321 landed with +10kt tailwind when at 20' (according to what I see on the MFD)...exceeding the landing tailwind limitation of 10kts. Good call to go-around albeit too late, IMO.
@RomeoJulietCharlie
@RomeoJulietCharlie Жыл бұрын
At 20' it looks more like the wind has swung around to the right, then becomes a headwind very shortly after. SOP is generally to use the reported tower wind, though, not the instantaneous annunciated wind from the ND (although you could decide to go around for that reason if you decide it's in the interest of safety). Agree that they could have gone around earlier, though. They were well above profile over the threshold. (Being pedantic, MFD is a Boeing thing. On the Airbus that's the ND)
@walkie1985
@walkie1985 Жыл бұрын
It was a game rather than an actual event
@WolfpackOne
@WolfpackOne Жыл бұрын
​@James Walkington No, it wasn't. That's real lol :D
@andriiyeromenkov6337
@andriiyeromenkov6337 Жыл бұрын
They were high, should be 50ft over the threshold, and most probably they saw that it's gonna be a landing outside of the touchdown zone if they continue, so decision was made to go around. Had exactly the same situation during the first flight with the passengers
@karchan916
@karchan916 Жыл бұрын
You know you flare perfectly when both main gears are perpendicular to the runway during landing. A350-900 only and B767s main gears are tilt forward to accommodate gear retraction and lock into the wheel well.
@aviationtrips
@aviationtrips Жыл бұрын
The A380 too has forward tilted main gears.
@ryan1111111555555555
@ryan1111111555555555 Жыл бұрын
@@aviationtrips The A380 main gear config is nice, the 2 outer are tilted forward but the 2 inner are tilted slightly back, meaning on the flare there's a nice "wedge" where both sets of gears slowly flatten out giving a very nice cushion effect
@coconutpalm1631
@coconutpalm1631 Жыл бұрын
Glad I watched until the end, that 747-400 contrail video is awesome, never seen it from above like that. Does anyone know when that was filmed or can link the original video?
@alexandrech8874
@alexandrech8874 Жыл бұрын
Perfect landing from DELTA!
@zainshah1453
@zainshah1453 Жыл бұрын
As an ATPL student: that was not a Go Around, just a bad landing. Pilot tried to flare for too long
@cobra1010
@cobra1010 Жыл бұрын
The Airbus A350 is a fantastic aircraft. According to the motto: If it looks right, it flies right!
@gwiyomikim5988
@gwiyomikim5988 Жыл бұрын
Form follows function! She is a beautiful airliner.
@4stringmanagmaildcom
@4stringmanagmaildcom Жыл бұрын
I believe that is a derivation of a saying that comes from sailing where the phrase is: "If she looks fast, she is fast".
@peter5.056
@peter5.056 Жыл бұрын
You could smooth buttercream on a cake with that Delta landing;)
@artisanautobody3931
@artisanautobody3931 Жыл бұрын
Was that an intentionally smooth landing, or did it float a little? Looked like the flare was a bit slight, and touchdown was delayed many seconds afterward.
@JMProdzChannel
@JMProdzChannel Жыл бұрын
Definitely floated. Very smooth landing tho, but you can see that he missed the touchdown zone by a few 100 feet!
@CommandProMC
@CommandProMC Жыл бұрын
3 Minutes of Aviation, 3 minutes ago!
@ballaki
@ballaki Жыл бұрын
nice landing delta
@SirPresidentOfTheRoYaL
@SirPresidentOfTheRoYaL 9 ай бұрын
Man i love the A350!😊
@BradGryphonn
@BradGryphonn Жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas!
@FozzyZ28
@FozzyZ28 Жыл бұрын
Merry Xmas! 😁👍
@Shamsithaca
@Shamsithaca Жыл бұрын
Its so quiet inside an A350, that it feels like its in space or something.
@dexio85
@dexio85 Жыл бұрын
2:40 Chemtrails confirmed!!!!!!
@sailorman8668
@sailorman8668 Жыл бұрын
2:40 Condensation trails confirmed!!!!!! There, fixed your mistake. You're welcome.
@dexio85
@dexio85 Жыл бұрын
@@sailorman8668 Yeah, right. Belive what you want sheeple.
@LikeOnATree
@LikeOnATree Жыл бұрын
Aerosucre…. I miss you! ❤️
@alecamal
@alecamal Жыл бұрын
First video just appears to be a normal landing, what makes this a failed go around attempt?
@ChuckieFinzter
@ChuckieFinzter Жыл бұрын
I agree. It looked as though there was a lot of aerodynamic braking involved, but I don't think it was a go around. Maybe, the pilot changed their mind and just decided to land.
@UraFlight
@UraFlight Жыл бұрын
That looks like a landing not a Go-around
@TedsHoldOver
@TedsHoldOver Жыл бұрын
I'm so glad this channel doesn't just show aviation F-ups.
@kevinkibble8342
@kevinkibble8342 Жыл бұрын
Pilot and ATC: "Ah fuck it, it's all good"
@FozzyZ28
@FozzyZ28 Жыл бұрын
What's a flare guys? I have an idea but I'd like to know for sure. 🤷🤔😁
@ImperialDiecast
@ImperialDiecast Жыл бұрын
raise the nose before touching down with your main landing gear first.
@cloudpandarism2627
@cloudpandarism2627 Жыл бұрын
How to flare nostrils: Nasal flaring occurs when the nostrils widen while breathing. It is often a sign of trouble breathing. Nasal flaring may be an indication of breathing difficulty, or even respiratory distress in infants. Check for airway obstructions, and call a health care provider. you are welcome mate!
@cloudpandarism2627
@cloudpandarism2627 Жыл бұрын
@@ImperialDiecast ;-)
@aj384
@aj384 Жыл бұрын
just before landing pilots raise the nose of the aircraft so make sure they land smoothly and also so that the main gear touches the ground before the nose gear, because all at once is quite bad for the aircraft structurally
@HotelPapa100
@HotelPapa100 Жыл бұрын
Flaring means increasing angle af attack (raising the aircrafts nose) to reduce sink speed before touchdown. Ideally the main gear just kisses the runway with sink speed almost zero. It also bleeds off the last bit of overspeed to make sure the plane stays down once it has touched down.
@bmsk0076
@bmsk0076 Жыл бұрын
How do you forget to apply thrust during a go round, how?
@albertobottopoala7691
@albertobottopoala7691 Жыл бұрын
Ask Emirates
@nikitaflorentz3988
@nikitaflorentz3988 Жыл бұрын
Ok update: it seems like they just had issues with the ground effect. So they had to kinda stall the aircraft in order to touch down bc ground effect is an asshole sometimes.
@bmsk0076
@bmsk0076 Жыл бұрын
@@nikitaflorentz3988 This makes some sense!
@DeathByPancake7
@DeathByPancake7 Жыл бұрын
Don’t take anything this channel claims as true.
@RJ1Reed
@RJ1Reed Жыл бұрын
Interesting all the different comments. This was obviously a destabilized approach that was close to the Asians flight at SFO. If anyone read about that you would know: In an attempt to increase the aircraft’s descent rate and capture the desired glide path, the pilot flying (PF) selected an autopilot (A/P) mode (flight level change speed [FLCH SPD]), but instead of descending, the auto flight system initiated a climb since the aircraft was below the selected altitude. This prompted the PF to disconnect the A/P and move the thrust levers to idle, which changed the autothrottle (A/T) to HOLD mode, a mode in which the A/T does not control airspeed.
@ChefDuane
@ChefDuane Жыл бұрын
There is no such thing as 'forgetting to apply thrust in a go around.' Once the PIC calls for a go around the FO initiates the go around protocol and the fly-by-wire system takes over and applies thrust, retracts flaps and spoilers, and retracts the gear in a specific order. That plane was not initiating a go around. A nose high attitude when landing but not attempting a go around.
@_AdventureClub_
@_AdventureClub_ Ай бұрын
The publisher of these videos have not much knowledge about airplanes but he likes to pretend he knows. Usually people watching these videos have no clue either about the aircrafts
@traustipriv6688
@traustipriv6688 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact, those A350 pilots felt 2.55 G during that turn!
@mob1235
@mob1235 Жыл бұрын
no, just when he lost no altitude
@coriscotupi
@coriscotupi Жыл бұрын
@@mob1235 You wouldn't want to roll into a 67-degree bank and loose altitude. Recipe for a spiral dive.
@mob1235
@mob1235 Жыл бұрын
@@coriscotupi bullshit its rather the recipe if you pull 2.55 G
@coriscotupi
@coriscotupi Жыл бұрын
@@mob1235 That airplane is perfectly capable of pulling 2.55g.
@traustipriv6688
@traustipriv6688 Жыл бұрын
@@mob1235 well the reason why 67°is the max bank angle is due to the fact that all large commercial planes(cs25 certification) have to be able to pull 2.5g, whether it be the a350 or 737. And 67°bank angle is where the plane will be pulling 2.5g (1/cos66.5 = 2.5g)
@paveladamek3502
@paveladamek3502 Жыл бұрын
Surprised about the Delta landing, landings in AMS can get quite rocky quite often.
@tonyclifton1278
@tonyclifton1278 Жыл бұрын
That Delta landing looked to me like it used up a lot of runway and only touched down at the very end of the touchdown zone. Perhaps holding it off in order to make the landing as smooth as possible but in the meantime landing long. As a passenger it gets top marks but as a pilot I'd take a firm landing in the right spot over a smooth touchdown half way down the runway anyday.
@gamma_dablam
@gamma_dablam Жыл бұрын
You owe us 7 seconds of aviation
@tonysodano
@tonysodano Жыл бұрын
original comment bro, never heard this before, not once 🤏
@jfk1856
@jfk1856 Жыл бұрын
1:33 why is the plane insulting the pilots like that??
@cloudpandarism2627
@cloudpandarism2627 Жыл бұрын
its a common feature to teach overpaid pilots in the world a lesson to be more humble. they often come on too strong showing off so AI was a good solution to tell them at each landing how bad they actually are. is good for the ego THRUST me!
@flyfelix333
@flyfelix333 Жыл бұрын
"retard" just means to set the thrust to idle, so the plane uses the rest of its cinetic energy to float down to the runway. It just should be a clear instruction from the plane, so it is possibly not overheared or just ignored.
@blake9908
@blake9908 Жыл бұрын
The plane is telling them to retard(reduce) the amount of power (throttle).
@feelincrispy7053
@feelincrispy7053 Жыл бұрын
I swear I’ve had that dealt a pilot before lol so smooth I didn’t even know we were on the ground haha
@MichaelRasco
@MichaelRasco Жыл бұрын
Just came off a Delta a350. One of the smoothest landings I've had and they also didnt have to use reverse thrust! Guess the runway turnoff was well down the way.
@Relmwood
@Relmwood 11 ай бұрын
If you were to run the stopping distance numbers on a landing where you use reversers and autobrake vs just an autobreak landing with no reversers the difference is very little. What the reverse thrust actually does is assists the auto break. The autobreak will need to use less applications to get you stopped when revers thrust is engaged, thus you can save on brake wear.....but stopping distance is much the same. The use of reverse thrust can often come down to directives from the company....some companies prefer you put the load on the engine and use revers thrust, others prefer you try avoid using reverse thrust and wear down the breaks quicker.....the accountants can answer that part.
@MichaelRasco
@MichaelRasco 11 ай бұрын
@@Relmwood good to know! Haha
@whufcjay73
@whufcjay73 Жыл бұрын
The first one definitely wasn’t a go around , just a standard landing but hard
@tapneo623
@tapneo623 Жыл бұрын
1st one is no Go around
@philblinkhorn8304
@philblinkhorn8304 Жыл бұрын
Exactly, normal landing. There is a setting -TOGA (take off, go around) which is selected to initiate a go around and the thrust is set automatically. Sometimes the captions with these videos are pure rubbish.
@tapneo623
@tapneo623 Жыл бұрын
@@philblinkhorn8304 true
@TGM_Gaming14
@TGM_Gaming14 Жыл бұрын
That was one hell of a rough landing sheesh
@LottiDotti76
@LottiDotti76 Жыл бұрын
That Delta pilot had to have been a former Air Force One pilot. That landing was pure butter creaminess!
@pic18f452
@pic18f452 Жыл бұрын
747 spitting out them chemtrails!!
@ElectricPics
@ElectricPics Жыл бұрын
Don’t. You’ll get the tinfoil hat people all triggered.😂
@EleanorPeterson
@EleanorPeterson Жыл бұрын
When TOGA becomes NO-GO...
@alanholck7995
@alanholck7995 Жыл бұрын
Came here to say similar. I wonder if TOGA wasn't pushed, or did it not work?
@skinnwalker4515
@skinnwalker4515 Жыл бұрын
Chef's kiss for that Delta pilot!
@SharpCats371
@SharpCats371 Жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas 🎄🕊✝🙏🎀
@kentd4762
@kentd4762 Жыл бұрын
Back at ya!
@brimopm
@brimopm Жыл бұрын
The Volaris jet has a tailwind of 14kts on final resulting in a ground speed of over 170kts. Despite the high field elevation and density altitude at Mexico City, he is exceeding the landing limitations of the aircraft set forth by the manufacturer, therefore he should go around as the runway disappears really fast otherwise.
@VmcgHD
@VmcgHD Жыл бұрын
Nonsense. The tailwind component at the start was 13 knots. I didn’t see it get any higher than that. Max FCOM tailwind component on landing is 15 knots in a 321 (company restrictions might be lower which may have been a factor here). The ground speed being 170 is knots is high but that’s normal for high elevation airfields where the air is thinner. It seems the tailwind dropped off a bit in the flare and PF over corrected a bit and started climbing again. You can actually see this on the PFD where the VSI needle starts climbing.The PF obviously wasn’t happy with this and decided the best option was simply to Go Around rather than landing long outside the TDZ. At no point was the aircraft “exceeding limitations set forth by the manufacturer”.
@brimopm
@brimopm Жыл бұрын
@@VmcgHD Maybe according to your FCOM, but our ops specs are FAA limitations, and that value is 10kts. So, when your in the hearing discussing a runway over-run or excursion, FOQA data would suggest non-compliance. Nonsense or not...
@VmcgHD
@VmcgHD Жыл бұрын
@@brimopm My FCOM (A321 NEO) says 15 knots. As does Airbus’. I can’t remember what the A321 CEO had but it was 10 knots. This did change a few years ago though IIRC. What operators impose on their crews is up to them. Hence my comment in parentheses. If the Volaris crew exceeded their company limitations, they did the right thing. My point being was your original comment implied they had broken some manufacturer limitation. They didn’t. At least none that I know of. If they exceeded a company limitation that’s different. Their train set, their rules. But thanks for the clarity on FAA restrictions. Again local regulations change the situation and what is, or is not allowed.
@patrickm6000
@patrickm6000 Жыл бұрын
why do planes always call the pilots retard... I'd like to know why planes are so mean...
@kingghidorah8106
@kingghidorah8106 Жыл бұрын
a350: Look my maximum bank angle! Boeing 747 and 707 being able to pull 3g barrel rolls: That's cute
@johnandrews3568
@johnandrews3568 Жыл бұрын
What, no Aerosucre Christmas present for us? LOL
@beardymcbeardface69
@beardymcbeardface69 Жыл бұрын
2:40 Contrails are formed when the World government lizard people want to dose us with mind control drugs! (at 30,000 feet, rather than just putting it into our food and water) All hail our scaly green overlords!
@Mike-cc3jw
@Mike-cc3jw Жыл бұрын
Yeah check out all those chemtrails I mean contrails in the background 246...
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