Marzocchi Z1 Air : Lower Fork Service

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Servicing your fork lowers will help prolong the life of your fork and keep your front end feeling smooth. Christina breaks the task down giving you everything you need to know to perform a fork lowers service at home.
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0:00 - Intro
2:26 - Tools
2:47 - Releasing air from fork
4:10 - Using the damper removal tool
5:47 - Removing the lowers
7:02 - Removing the seals from the lowers
9:14 - Installing new seals in the lowers
12:13 - Putting air back in
12:30 - Reassembling fork
13:45 - Putting fresh oil into fork
15:28 - Reinstalling bolts on lowers
17:00 - Equalization technique
17:42 - Double check your sag setting
18:22 - Outro
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@ratcamaro 2 жыл бұрын

You can loosen the foot nuts and use a 10mm & 15mm socket with a hammer to unseat the air spring & damper.

@felipenavas 2 жыл бұрын

Came here to comment that!

@kentsolgule5362 2 жыл бұрын

There's a risk you will damage the alu nut if you hit on it with a socket. A damaged nut might make the shaft rotate with the nut. I remove the nut and use something with a hole that fits over the rebound screw.

@redtobertshateshandles Жыл бұрын

@@kentsolgule5362 screw the nuts on as far as you can to spread the load amongst as many threads as possible. And use a soft hammer or wood.

@ormondjosh 2 жыл бұрын

Would love a video on a full frame disassembly of a full suspension bike. That's a job I've been putting off. Replacing bearings in pivot arms on a Demo8 is pretty intimidating.

@triplucox6666 2 жыл бұрын

Man, the demo is a hard bike to work on, it took me 4 hours just to regrease all the bearings

@pinkshinyalan 2 жыл бұрын

I'm not due for a service or anything, but this music is chill and your presentation is relaxing. I listened while doing dishes and it's just what I needed to wind down at the end of the day.

@martinschwartz7342 2 жыл бұрын

That was fantastic, Christina. You explained this better than any other presenter on any cycling channel. I am so glad that Pinkbike had the wisdom to hire you. I think Pinkbike should have a weekly show called something like "Christina's Tech Tutorials". You make learning fun and easy. You are articulate, intelligent, thorough, talented, and entertaining. The perfect teacher. I hope to see many more videos like this, in the future.

@superchickensoup 2 жыл бұрын

I think someone is in love 🤢🤣

@MrSupermugen 2 жыл бұрын

aww, Martin has the love eyes for Christina

@redtobertshateshandles Жыл бұрын

No she didn't. Check out Doddys video on the Fox 36 and the Lost Guy.

@noelzamot1983 2 жыл бұрын

Well done. I've watched countless fork service videos. This one was straight to the point and useful. As a recovering bike mechanic, I even learned a new trick (beaker for suspension fluid). One request: I'd REALLY like to see the same level of no-frills description for LSC tuning. I'd like to see someone explain and demo the interplay between fork air pressure, air volume, and LSC for different riding conditions. I'm one of those "run almost zero LSC and hope for the best" luddites, and I'm sure I'm doing it wrong. Not sure if that is appropriate for a winter overhaul series, but definitely something I'd love to see.

@Frorideism 2 жыл бұрын

Sweet thanks, a shame I don't own that purpose-built 540$ Park Tools oil catching bucket, otherwise my fork'd be so serviced right now.

@richardhaselwood9478 15 күн бұрын

😅😅

@clarinet210 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, this is super informative. For a future video could you go over checking/servicing/replacing rear suspension bushings?

@pinkbike 2 жыл бұрын

YES! I've had this idea for a while, great one! -Christina

@Putzinator 2 жыл бұрын

Just serviced my Z1 following these tips and it was really helpful! My seals were a pain in the ass and I beat the hell out of them trying to get them out... But after a year of hard riding and bikepacking it was leaking oil during rides on one side anyways so they needed to be replaced. Thanks Christina and PB for an awesome video! Definitely need more like this!

@redtobertshateshandles Жыл бұрын

Tap them in a bit first to break the bond between the seal and the fork.

@fuzzhead08 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing this video - just did a service on my Z1s and the vid made it super easy!

@ricardoreyes1764 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome video!!! I´d love to see a full service of a Marzocchi ZI coil, since I haven´t found much info on how to do it, keep up the great work!

@WBOS72 2 жыл бұрын

Yay! Christina is my favorite! Thank you.

@the_blair_bike_project 2 жыл бұрын

Great instruction Christina!

@jacksonianc 2 жыл бұрын

I've got this service coming up on my Z2 pretty soon, definitely want to do it myself!

@sloops4398 2 жыл бұрын

Then better whatch videos of guys which know how to do it and you will save money for useless tools you didn't need.

@JamesLG4 2 жыл бұрын

I like the service videos. Keep em coming!

@pinkbike 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks James! I'll have a think on the next one -Christina

@RobHill00 2 жыл бұрын

Good video, very chill and well explained!👌🏻😎

@gingerb36 2 жыл бұрын

More service videos please, that was very good

@ocjimleonard 2 жыл бұрын

very educational, you have my vote for more vids like this one. Maybe a rear shock service next? Again, great presentation and information.

@forestkan6653 2 жыл бұрын

More of this! Would love to see how to straighten a hanger, cut bars, etc

@llullwllallkll 2 жыл бұрын

glad to see you again.. 🥰🥰🥰

@RollingAroundwNicknAmanda 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Just bought stuff to service all our forks.

@Sixbillion1 2 жыл бұрын

Looks easy. Especially when you have a loaded shop and all the tools

@joshward4712 2 жыл бұрын

Facts holy, it’s so annoying when you don’t have what you need

@mistera1mL3Ss 2 жыл бұрын

You don't need all the Tools. Just get what you need to Service your Fork Model.

@HOllyBOni 2 жыл бұрын

But it is actually easy, and you only need just a few tools, certainly not a shop.

@hectorhernandez1664 2 жыл бұрын

You don’t need all those fancy park tools. You can do this service with basic hand tools you probably already have

@danp2509 2 жыл бұрын

If u got rockshox u don't need half of this for a seal change Allen keys, mallet and the correct fork oil and syringe plus the seals and foam o rings. Seal setting tool is nice to have, but not strictly necessary. A couple more stuff is necessary for a damper bleed or replacement, or airspring replacement

@chrisobrine7090 Жыл бұрын

Great video, and I'm super glad I found it, as I will be helping a friend service his Z1 soon. I can't find a service manual anywhere for the Z1 Marzocchi, and fox websites only have a Z2 full rebuild manual listed on their service pages.

@niccoloferrari-ltd816 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah very useful video 🤟 I have a Bomber Z2, the process it's almost the same, right? Marzocchi best brand EVER!! 🤩💪

@mougetm 2 жыл бұрын

i want to see more videos staring Christina, she is great

@Kcducttaper1 2 жыл бұрын

Great tutorial! You really don't need the specialty tools if you're careful though, so don't get intimidated by those.

@workhorsemtb7075 2 жыл бұрын

Great stuff, Thanks

@brianc0019 2 жыл бұрын

Christina you’re the Best 👍🏾

@All_the_bikes_are_cool 2 жыл бұрын

Great video... personally I use only 5 WT on the damper side and for the foam ring on this side... 20WT for foam ring only on the air side... to avoid mixing the oils.

@danielegaraffo3563 2 жыл бұрын

me too! ;)

@nickcowley8757 2 жыл бұрын

Just sent mine in to fox for a service.....good thing my buddy works there and will do it for beer 🍺

@erinb4919 2 жыл бұрын

Great video... Thanks. How to adjust derailleur properly. How to clean service sticky pistons on your brakes

@redtobertshateshandles Жыл бұрын

Tap the seals IN a little before removing, to break the bond between the seal and fork. They'll come out much easier. Motorcycle mechanic tip.

@aaronweber1081 2 жыл бұрын

Really good!

@andrewince8824 2 жыл бұрын

Things like this are best learned on something shagged. Look around on those buy/swap groups or your local newspaper. Pick up a set of clapped out forks to learn on. Sure it's hard to cock up but it's still better to practice on some knackered old things than to risk a £1000 set of forks. Besides, if you get those old forks working nicely someone might want them for a bit of cash.

@mr2_mike 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome. Just coming off a video where Christina was ripping with Remy.

@tonyhruzek4250 2 жыл бұрын

I usually save the springs from the seals just in case they get munched during other fork services when you don't change out the seals.

@pinkbike 2 жыл бұрын

Agreed, I always keep the extra bits that I don't use in the spare bin -Christina

@bikesense3867 2 жыл бұрын

One of the most straight forward fork service videos I’ve seen. Thanks!

@snat6299 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks having a Z1 this is the 1st service video I’ve found! You rock! Now just need to find out where to buy the new seals/oils and tools

@pinkbike 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Appreciate that! Any local shop "should" order those in for ya -Christina

@team420pastonarinocolombia5 2 жыл бұрын

Sería bueno con subtítulos en español. gracias

@robinraff1486 2 жыл бұрын

I heard do not lube the Plastik Seals or they will just pop out the Lowers on an high Compression.

@redtobertshateshandles Жыл бұрын

Yeah. I'd just make sure it's clean and smooth in there.

@MikeDomi0618 2 жыл бұрын

i followed this exactly is my rockshox a bomber now?

@Ghost_Rider473 Ай бұрын

cool girl thank you you helped me🤟🤗

@miroslavstancel1918 2 жыл бұрын

Hi,nice vid. Can I use FOX36 seals on my Z1 coil? I read chassis are pretty same like on FOX. Thanks for answer, cheers! :)

@camdunnage6214 2 жыл бұрын

Great tutorial. I have a set of Marzocchi super leggera Corsa 29 with remote lockout. Can they be serviced the same way or are there a few other steps I need to do to allow for the lockout mechanism??

@camdunnage6214 2 жыл бұрын

Can anyone please help where to find instructions or service manual to overhaul the Super leggera forks listed above??

@ThunderStruckMTB 10 ай бұрын

Not servicing the air spring during a lower leg service is like not changing the oil filter when changing the oil on your vehicle.

@netposerx 2 жыл бұрын

Not cold, no snow and not wet here in Florida. So we are not servicing our forks, we are riding today!

@danp2509 2 жыл бұрын

Forks still need servicing when used in dryer conditions

@netposerx 2 жыл бұрын

@@danp2509 Nope, just ride and enjoy. Forks can last 20 years without service. j/k with this and my previous comment.

@djsercy5879 2 жыл бұрын

No snow and not wet, but it definitely got colder here...at least until Florida decides it's done with winter next week XD

@netposerx 2 жыл бұрын

@@djsercy5879 Yes, it is cold for Florida but great for riding.

@pinkbike 2 жыл бұрын

hahah May or may not be a little jealous -Christina

@JepoyIgana Жыл бұрын

How do you remove the cap for the air pressure side of the fork? That way I can set it up with the right psi for my weight.

@b.w.1704 2 жыл бұрын

I reckon there are about a hundred videos on KZfaq about this. Was another one needed?

@terrybull4604 2 жыл бұрын

Can you do a video on the a z2 service? The only video on KZfaq is in Russian and fox websit only has full rebuild instructions.

@huntii 2 жыл бұрын

Does a rear suspension requires an oil change as well ?

@sjaan7370 2 жыл бұрын

More tech vids please 😎

@mudkayak6305 2 жыл бұрын

It's pretty much winter ?

@bitumen83 2 жыл бұрын

I did lower leg service on my Fox 34, and I was always wondering WHY those lover legs air shaft needs to be punched out? Why you can not just unscrew lower legs and take them out from upper legs? Can anyone explain to me? Thanks in advance

@HOllyBOni 2 жыл бұрын

The shafts wedging into the lowers is what keeps everything sealed, so oil won't leak out.

@mattx3190 Ай бұрын

What happens if there is rough edges/scrtches inside?

@dntfakethefunk Ай бұрын

What is a little excess oil after a few rides? Is anything between 1cc-3cc normal?

@thetick7684 6 ай бұрын

I have something rattleing in my bomber dj forks. Help.

@guilhermeagapito8370 4 күн бұрын

Would it be possible to provide the maintenance service for the Marzocchi Dj1 2017?

@ianhorsekelly9144 Жыл бұрын

Where can I buy the service kit in the UK?

@alvinpanaligan9772 Жыл бұрын

Thank you love you but i dont have marzocchi fork

@gulfcitynd 2 жыл бұрын

And if you own a mtb with a coil fork sr suntour xcm it's cheaper to replace it rather than service

@hannahbruni6051 8 ай бұрын

Just wanted to confirm, would those service video be the same for the Z2 Bomber fork?

@AnotherMrLizard 6 ай бұрын

Z2 is 34mm instead of 36mm like the Z1 so will need different seals and maybe oil depending on the damper but the process is exactly the same.

@thomaskuhn6541 2 жыл бұрын

Is there any real benefit in upgrading to something like SKF seals, is it worth the extra money?

@Matt-py4sc 2 жыл бұрын

They're 97.38% easier to press back in than the Fox ones.

@paradox963 2 жыл бұрын

Don't know about the SKF's, but the seals from Push have noticeably less stiction.

@djambush360 2 жыл бұрын

My old reliable Marzocchi Junior-T only needs every 10 years an oil change and the sealings should be cleaned regularly. After cleaning i apply a µ of silicon-spray, compress the fork 2 or 3 times and remove the surplus silicon. This let the coating of the standpipes remain like new with literally zero breakaway torque. 6:28 I use household wet wipes (melon scent). No lint and the right ammount of cleaning agent. They're also pretty useful to get rid of this nasty chain goo. Don't use them on brake disks/pads because of the soapy ingredients.

@GossieMTB 2 жыл бұрын

what syringe should i use and should a different syringe be used for the air and damper sides?

@redtobertshateshandles Жыл бұрын

Pharmacy syringe or if you know a nurse get a free one.

@GossieMTB Жыл бұрын

@@redtobertshateshandles thank you!

@waldowsxxghostxx8577 7 ай бұрын

Does these forks not having the pressure bleeding valves a drawback for someone who doesn’t want to open the fork up when you don’t have to service it?

@AnotherMrLizard 6 ай бұрын

The valves are for letting out excess pressure at altitude etc. All other forks work perfectly fine without them, they’ve got to keep coming up with gimmicks.

@ozzmundo1 2 жыл бұрын

Those safety glasses make pretty good night riding goggles for people with large faces. Looks dorky but works.

@NotTheLarryDavid 2 жыл бұрын

If you want a more detailed overview, check out The Lost Co’s guide in their channel.

@darkomtc 2 жыл бұрын

No need to use the hose for putting oil in. It's easier to suck oil in syringe, easier to put oil in fork and most importantly, not much oil is wasted.

@zoranpl 2 жыл бұрын

No oil in air chamber?!?!?

@JurisKankalis 2 жыл бұрын

I'm 40 and for somewhere from 2/3s to 3/4s of that I've been a DIY bike and car mechanic - and never dreamed a women would teach me in this field. However, I don't mind her doing it, don't know if it's something to do with me or her. Greetings from Latvia and thanks for the clear and simple introduction into this "dark art".

@okatbikes4917 2 жыл бұрын

For grip and grip 2, you should be soaking the damper side foam in 5wt-ptfe, not 20 gold. You're gonna end up working that into the damping circuit, and damping with 20wt is no fun.

@ASAP2525 2 жыл бұрын

Fox says it does not matter and there mechanics do it as well apparently all the oil stays in the foam rings

@pinkbike 2 жыл бұрын

Agreed, this was all confirmed with Fox/Marzocchi :-) -Christina

@paradox963 2 жыл бұрын

@@pinkbike Yep there is not enough oil in the foam rings to contaminate the damper bath oil, you can watch Jordi from fox do it on Rachel Atherton Fox 40 on an episode of Dialed.

@porroco 2 жыл бұрын

Wow thos arms can bent those forks easily

@joeroche552 2 жыл бұрын

Christ not that much has changed from my old orange Z1 bams what 20 odd years late

@BrianVaughn 2 жыл бұрын

Air can service on your shock would be cool.

@pinkbike 2 жыл бұрын

Have done this before, with guidance... I'll need some more practice -Christina

@ls66 2 жыл бұрын

As a guy that's been swinging a hammer for as long as you've been on the planet I gotta give you props on the way you swung yours you know what you're doing. Thanks for the great info 👍🏻

@pinkbike 2 жыл бұрын

I appreciate that a lot, thanks! -Christina

@lorenzoluongo6372 2 жыл бұрын

so i'm not the only one using my italian mozzarella plastic container

@chickenclips 2 жыл бұрын

Chappetta 😘

@david029014 2 жыл бұрын

She so good! I can watch her all day! Big crush!

@huntercobb2987 2 жыл бұрын

Dialed

@THEGOATLAB 2 жыл бұрын

Rad , wanna see more of your kick ass self Christina , maybe how to put a dropper post on a bike without one, or how to seat a tubeless tyres

@pinkbike 2 жыл бұрын

LOVE both those ideas. How to service my dropper would be a good one! -Christina

@anksos 2 жыл бұрын

Nice one, thanks Christina for explaining it so well. I have seen that guy doing quite nice edits and runs on riding trails, check him out is really worth it kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qL1xd5mU3ZvQn3k.html

@LaurenceMillerMTB 2 жыл бұрын

I don’t think my dad will trust me doing this to my bike

@BlackMamba-lt8oe 2 жыл бұрын

i want you to change my sporm

@L4J20 2 жыл бұрын

Can you use 0W20 full synthetic motor oil instead?

@omurder3213 9 ай бұрын

‘’Gently’’ meaning use your whole body weight😂

@Bobo-ym1df 2 жыл бұрын

I like servicing forks because I get to use a hammer

@gingerb36 2 жыл бұрын

Try putting the seals in without that special tool 🙄

@pinkbike 2 жыл бұрын

Not willing to wreck the seals trying haha -Christina

@frankthetankricard 2 жыл бұрын

A few inches of a proper diameter PVC pipe will do the job nearly as well for pennies. The seal driver is probably faster and easier to use but it's a marginal difference when you're only servicing your own bikes.

@kentsolgule5362 2 жыл бұрын

@@frankthetankricard I guess you have to be careful to not drive the seal too far down? The tool has both a stop and also makes sure it's straight.

@chrish116 2 жыл бұрын

shes fit 😍😍

@ghost_control3276 2 жыл бұрын

My God she's gorgeous

@stefromfortworth 2 жыл бұрын

Please service the fork on Henry’s budget vs baller bike and ditch that garbage he’s running at the minute 🤌🏼

@sloops4398 2 жыл бұрын

First seconds of work and already a fail. First notice the pressure before releasing the air. Going on with this extra expensive tools while other guys which know how it works use tools everbody has at home. Also wearing gloves and then using a brush to get some grease to the dust wipers is bad because if u loose a hair it will be on the wipers.