Pioneer DJ DJM-S5 Review - The Ultimate Affordable Battle Mixer? | Beatsource Tech

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Pioneer DJ's line of Serato battle mixers gains a new, more affordable model in the DJM-S5. Taking design and feature cues from its more expensive stablemates, it promises to offer great performance for intermediate, hobbyist DJs. Finished in a vibrant red color, the S5 really stands out from the crowd visually - but does it justify its $800 price tag? Mojaxx gives us his thoughts in a full review.
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Chapters:
0:00 Intro
1:24 Color Scheme
1:51 Construction
2:39 Faders
3:38 Pads
5:22 Effects
6:52 Scratch Cutter
8:07 Cueing
8:41 Other Controls
9:27 Inputs
10:28 Outputs & Sound Quality
10:58 USB Power
13:21 Conclusion

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@daynniteism
@daynniteism Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this! The fact that you can use the Serato FX while playing vinyl is what really grabs me. There’s just no 2-channel mixer currently on the market with onboard FX for playing vinyl, except the really pricey ones, so this may well be an acceptable compromise.
@deejay5292
@deejay5292 2 жыл бұрын
Since they don't support my 57mk2 anymore.. was looking at the 72. Glad I waited.. I'm getting this
@moeberry3256
@moeberry3256 2 жыл бұрын
Big Thanks Mojaxx
@DanielleKingdjdinosaur
@DanielleKingdjdinosaur 2 жыл бұрын
i like a bit of echo and it can get you out of trouble when you cant beat mix or chop out.I dont use lots of effects but that and cue points are the two features i use the most
@23gjesse
@23gjesse 9 ай бұрын
I’ve been using my s3 for a few years with an sp1 and I’m ready to upgrade I appreciate you mo ! Think I’m going to save up and go straight for the s7
@djmatzUp
@djmatzUp 2 жыл бұрын
looks so sweet with the red/white custom 1210mk2 - thanks for the review
@Ysosassythedj
@Ysosassythedj Жыл бұрын
show us a photo of that dj matzup that sound aesthetic af
@mrlawilliamsukwarmachine4904
@mrlawilliamsukwarmachine4904 Жыл бұрын
@@Ysosassythedj I think the reference was to this video.
@D-One
@D-One 2 жыл бұрын
Damn... we reached the point where an 800$ mixer is the "budget" version. The USB-C power connection thing is interesting.
@Presbiter
@Presbiter 2 жыл бұрын
Are you surprised? We live in a time when the gallon sunflower oil is priced higher than a gallone of gas, which already sits on an all time high...its also the days that let you sell a kidney or your new born for a pound of flour... Could be very soon, that 800$ entry level mixers are our least pressing matters to deal with. In history books they call it interesting times...lets you think of boring times with nostalgia^^
@ChesterPerry187
@ChesterPerry187 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah but after the 800 quid you don’t need to buy vinyl. Pre Serato DJing was very expensive.
@D-One
@D-One 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChesterPerry187 It was indeed, been using DVS for like 15 years, so vinyl prices are so far back in my life that is not in the equation anymore.... TBF my first serato SL3 DVS box was indeed about 700$+ bucks and my old mixer another 800$, so yeah the price is kind of fair I guess.
@dvrmusicentertainment
@dvrmusicentertainment Жыл бұрын
Exactly way too expensive .
@djSpinege
@djSpinege Жыл бұрын
@@Presbiter some chips are not being produced anymore so company are having to buy up B grade batches of chips for even more than the older better chips. i can't see this being a thing forever but i bet company's will be happy to keep the prices high forever, even when chips are being produced again.
@AprendeScratching
@AprendeScratching 2 жыл бұрын
A little detail: this mixer works in external mix mode. Numark Scratch works in internal mix mode when the switch is set to "PC", and the crossfader cuts are so soft because Serato DJ can't do it better unfortunately (we AMX users know those kind of cuts...) That's important for anyone who wants sharp cuts with Serato
@Ysosassythedj
@Ysosassythedj Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for this important detail. Have a lovely day
@djjoeykmusic
@djjoeykmusic 2 жыл бұрын
Great review Thank you
@djrugged1
@djrugged1 2 жыл бұрын
My two cents would be for using Hip Hop, R&B, Reggae, Pop & sub genres: Echo & Reverb. House (Soulful, Deep, Nuyorican & Classics): Echo, Reverb, Flanger & Phaser. Do agree on Serato FX about getting new improved and saving configuration til this day still don't understand why they don't have the save setting so I prefer to use internal FX.
@goodvibemusicstation
@goodvibemusicstation 2 жыл бұрын
I haven’t touch the s7 nor s11 but and then s5 is here omg!
@KevinBasher
@KevinBasher 2 жыл бұрын
Saving custom effects settings has been missing in Traktor, too. If you switch from single mode to 3 effects, the standard settings won't work for me - they sound terrible. On a side note: With Native Instruments' purchase of iZotope, how likely is it they will upgrade a competing product's (Serato's) effects?
@househeadspeakz
@househeadspeakz 2 жыл бұрын
Since I play mostly House, Disco, and Techno, I don't use FX that often. For certain tracks, I would throw in an Echo. or delay using the wet pass filter. I also would use the loop while blending tracks.
@djdeemz7651
@djdeemz7651 2 жыл бұрын
Im a turntablist and i find the same i dont use most of them , i use echo , looper mostly and then i have reloop elite and combo filter with the fx fader can be used to scratch and then a couple of other effects i have used when recording the rest - fucking useless
@geronimopink309
@geronimopink309 Жыл бұрын
Hello, and thanks for the great video! I was wondering if one can play only with this mixer and a laptop, without any controllers?
@RobAlahn
@RobAlahn 2 жыл бұрын
Pro: using effects during vinyl sets Con: no split cue Great review. I’ll see it in person at NAMM this week.
@YouriHL
@YouriHL Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the in-depth review Mojaxx. Eh, one question. I wás looking into the Mixars Quattro, but this one is newer.. Do I need Serato compatible turntables to be able to control them via the S5 in Serato or can I just use Standon one's connected to the S5 in Serato ? I already have the Pro version for my current DJ controller.
@johneccles9051
@johneccles9051 2 жыл бұрын
So the competition for this is numark scratch Traktor z2 and mixar duo
@Ysosassythedj
@Ysosassythedj Жыл бұрын
actually it's better supported so... it and the scratch
@djPositive
@djPositive 2 жыл бұрын
hot cue fader thing was called fader start up to this point and i dont know why they trying to rename it, and works on many other serato mixers( 72 for sure)
@AnisMaknojia
@AnisMaknojia 2 жыл бұрын
Are you able to adjust the # of beats on the loops? Ex :1/3, 1/2, 1, 2 ect…
@DJDevine
@DJDevine Жыл бұрын
The big Vestax boards with knob conversions were nice back in the day.
@alexandrosroussos
@alexandrosroussos 2 жыл бұрын
It’s really great ! Though I will buy it when they release the successor of the XDJ-700, all the setup standalone and USB bus powered ! 🤩
@Ysosassythedj
@Ysosassythedj Жыл бұрын
Haha what a plan
@samstars9623
@samstars9623 2 жыл бұрын
Mo great presentation as always, me personally I don't use effect that much, unless I'm playing roots or dub, and the odd house tune' the reverse, Echo is quite good when you the right amount Milli seconds, so sorry to change the subject when will Pioneer bring out Mac daddy 4 track 19" inch rack with all the bells and whistles I do like the layout of DJ DJM-S11 and has a lot of great features and lot of engineering that went into that building it'and it's mixer that can't reckoned with I think they should bring the family, in other words the 10",19" give people chance to choose what is best for them, so would it be fair to say that big mixer are not for the upcoming DJ of today and if, someone could bring that back would nice to see. I know it would very pricey, and it's due an upgrade and is long overdue you have reviewed some excellent P. O. W. E. R. H. O. U. S. E mixer in past and present. I hope one day that will come and something to look forward to. Bless you 🙏🏾😇🎚️🎚️🎛️🎚️🎚️🎛️
@leewarren29
@leewarren29 2 жыл бұрын
What are the decks your using? Look sweet
@nufe
@nufe 2 жыл бұрын
It looks good with your custom technics though
@FunctionGermany
@FunctionGermany 2 жыл бұрын
i'm not sure if USB-C is the right way going forward because USB-B is a much larger connector that's won't break as easily and can't be pulled out as easily on average. i love USB-C for everything that isn't DJ hardware but for exactly that there will have to be some sort of locking mechanism. there's no way we'll have CDJs in the future connected with USB-C cables that are out there now.
@djhemirukahemisphere8893
@djhemirukahemisphere8893 2 жыл бұрын
Im using my rev 7 using usbc. I agree with you but the tech teams recommended it over usb
@Lenfant_soleil
@Lenfant_soleil 2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree but I think cdjs will always be meant to be plugged by rj45 before any type of USB
@FunctionGermany
@FunctionGermany 2 жыл бұрын
@@Lenfant_soleil that would be for pro-dj link, but for HID you always need some sort of USB connection. i don't think HID works via Ethernet alone, but i think from the 2000NXS2 onwards you only need to connect one device (CDJ or mixer) of a Pro DJ Link network via USB to get HID.
@DJFlex1
@DJFlex1 2 жыл бұрын
If the S5 had hardware Fxs I would buy it for when I do gigs abroad, is it look’s very compact, that’s my only downside. Maybe we will see an S6 to with onboard Fxs.
@skebardibardi2139
@skebardibardi2139 Жыл бұрын
right this what we've come to... im slowly getting back to djing after about 10 years and I am looking forward buying actual records again. Looking for a mixer for a bit of scratching and also mixing. Could this mixer be the good one as im not really going to use nothing but vinyl records? or should i go straight to thriftshop looking for old ecler/vestax pmc mixer for my setup? help a guy out here... also shiiiet?! 800$ for a intermediate tyoe mixer nowdays?! I remember Vestax mixers pmc-05 being about 550$ and that was pushing it a bit
@butlernic100
@butlernic100 Жыл бұрын
Does the mixer have to be plugged into a laptop for the scratch effects or can i just put a vinyl on and the effects are ready to go?
@jmcjose8634
@jmcjose8634 Жыл бұрын
So if your using to scratch vinyl, you can't fine tune the xfader cut? Only through Serato?
@louprimo6062
@louprimo6062 2 жыл бұрын
Would it have killed Pioneer to give you the standard 8 pads versus just 4? I think if they added the additional 4 pads it would have been a home run which is standard equipment these days.
@sebastienrobert5179
@sebastienrobert5179 2 жыл бұрын
Great mixer I’am wondering to switch from traktor to serato I love the scratch banks access but 800£ it’s a bite expensive thx Mojaxx 👍
@djchozin1
@djchozin1 8 ай бұрын
Thank you
@DjDemitris
@DjDemitris Жыл бұрын
This mixer doesn't have split cue, but is there a way around it? Like a jailbreak way to get it?
@dinoz3r
@dinoz3r Жыл бұрын
do the effects work also without dvs? i mean with vinyls?
@logisticalstyles
@logisticalstyles 2 жыл бұрын
I didn’t start using FX until I was able to experience hardware FX. Now I’m hooked on using hardware FX. This mixer looks interesting but the lack of hardware FX and only 4 pads stood me from getting it.
@ferguswaveforms
@ferguswaveforms 2 жыл бұрын
Has anyone else ever used the LFO on the Xone 92 filter? I'm a big fan, it makes it feel like you are playing a synth. Sadly it's not on the Xone 96 haha.
@audiostar01
@audiostar01 2 жыл бұрын
We need serato to give us an update on ddj xp2
@elliel2k2
@elliel2k2 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not an effects dj but a few years ago I added a pair reloop neon to my sets (2 × Numark ndx500's + Akai AMX & my dvs setup as well) . I started using Serato fx's because that was all I had, and I really liked them, the echo out in particular. Maybe I use it too much but I can't seem to stop 😆. Almost every transition I'm using echo out. Anyway I've upgraded to a Denon X1850 + SC5000m set I really miss my post fader serato fx's 😔 Even in controller mode using a ddj-xp2 the serato fx's aren't post fader. Now I know for all you serious fx's djs I've heard it all, "get a rmx 1000, denon fx are garbage, Serato fx's are trash, pioneer fx's are the greatest thing since sliced bread" Yada, Yada, yada!!!!!! like I said I'm not a big fx's dj, serato fx's give me all I need.
@ferguswaveforms
@ferguswaveforms 2 жыл бұрын
Echo Out is so useful for open format mixing.
@reno5159
@reno5159 2 жыл бұрын
Lovely looking mixer. I think for £800 a slightly better IO and 8 hot cues is a minimum. Send return would be nice also. Would make the serato effects less of a problem. Should unlock serato DVS at that price range as well.
@DJBlakeyUk
@DJBlakeyUk 2 жыл бұрын
It unlocks DVS
@Scottydj01
@Scottydj01 2 жыл бұрын
S11 user, the build-in fx do their job but I mainly use twist echo, shutter & similar to that. All the rest are meh, maybe I need to spend more time tweaking with them but I do LOVE a simple effective fx without over complicating the setup. Also, I never used the scratch cutter tool, I get why its their but seems like a useless feature to me. Serato fx need a refresh PLEASE!
@hot4futureyears2come
@hot4futureyears2come 2 жыл бұрын
Great stuff, your reviews are on point. I have a S9 so no need to try to get this. The S9 is still a great go-to mixer. And I got mine used for 900 with a case. Depends on what you need. This mixer is great for people who wants to use this with a reloop portable turntable with phase A nice portable setup. This is WAY better then the Numark scratch. So the price jump is worth it.
@sotoalfredo20
@sotoalfredo20 2 жыл бұрын
That's the exact deal I'm looking for 🤞🏼👌
@rjmn1
@rjmn1 2 жыл бұрын
Here in Australia it's double the price, definitely not worth double the money....
@mindseekers
@mindseekers 2 жыл бұрын
How is Pioneer sounding now? last one we tested was the djm 900 nxs2. and that was shit. So we have sticked to allen & heath mixers.
@herschelsinglee
@herschelsinglee 2 жыл бұрын
I totally agree & have said for a long time that Serato need to up their game in the effects category of their software.
@hollywoodthedj1673
@hollywoodthedj1673 2 жыл бұрын
Big time Serato Has To Step It Up And At Least Make The Effects Be On Point And Sharp Because They Be Off Like A Mofo 🤦🏾‍♂️
@djdeemz7651
@djdeemz7651 2 жыл бұрын
They need to expand the beatslicer on the pads if you use that right it turns your mixer into an mpc you can drum using it if you set para to 1/2 beat , make sure your bpm range is set double time then hit the slicer so its on blue mode and drum away it gives a much better soumd than regular drumming
@smallsmallish
@smallsmallish 2 жыл бұрын
Why no rekord box?
@Kidkato
@Kidkato 2 жыл бұрын
Hard to compete with the Numark Scratch imo. That thing is a beast for the price.
@Johnnyjawbone
@Johnnyjawbone Жыл бұрын
So this unlocks Serato DJ Pro, which is £300 standalone. No one seems to mention than in the pricing. So it's effectively £450 UK.
@djseasick
@djseasick 2 жыл бұрын
Does it work with rekordbox?
@sabri-fabricesayhi8667
@sabri-fabricesayhi8667 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting review! As a Z2 user, all I can see is that when it comes to affordable DVS battle mixers, mine still has the best value for money 😁 (as well as the Numark Scratch mixer for Serato users).
@1period
@1period 2 жыл бұрын
Word up! Z2 standing the test of time
@irritablysavvy
@irritablysavvy 2 жыл бұрын
Mixars Duo as well. The Serato Z2 clone more or less.
@1d_grind
@1d_grind Жыл бұрын
Yea but I’ve had the Z2 and it’s limited
@djtrepound2407
@djtrepound2407 2 жыл бұрын
I’m giving you the credit for Pioneer making the choice to add color back to their products. I would not be surprised if we start seeing the MUCH needed return of color and personality to do DJ gear going forward. My hope is they listen and make the switch to USB C across the board, as USB B is dated. At bare minimum they should ship USB B to USB C cables with their gear lol.
@Tdawg93a
@Tdawg93a Жыл бұрын
I hate the colour
@mildboyz710
@mildboyz710 2 жыл бұрын
So did we forget about the S3?? that had serato... why did they discontinue that... was actually pioneers cheapest serato s series mixer to date am i wrong?
@deejayshmoove
@deejayshmoove 2 жыл бұрын
Can we get a 'software' effect for the "Backspin" and "Vinyl Brake"?? As an old school dj from the late 80s and early 90s, that was our favorite way to transition from one song to the next. Not always available in all cases and they do sound good when parameters are set correctly.
@RH-dk2bg
@RH-dk2bg 2 жыл бұрын
Just do it yourself as real djs do... 🤷‍♂️
@scratchgonzo
@scratchgonzo 2 жыл бұрын
There is a brake?
@kbrako3648
@kbrako3648 2 жыл бұрын
@RH….be nice….Hahahahahaaa
@percyabba
@percyabba 2 жыл бұрын
I am using the Xone 96 with my SC6000Ms and desperately miss my Traktor effects. I am using the send and return to my old Korg Zero 4 which is in a cupboard underneath my decks. It works really well. I just select echo or delay and I can dial in the BPM and pretty much leave it if I am playing similar tempo stuff. Whoever is the first to make a rock solid effects unit that is well built and sounds incredible will be very popular. I have thought about the eventide H9 but its a big ticket item for a compromise
@AprendeScratching
@AprendeScratching 2 жыл бұрын
If you miss your Traktor effects, why don't you route them to the mixer? Something I like from Traktor is it allows to route its FX outside the software with any hardware. I don't know if the Xone:96 has send/return in its buit-in sound card, but you can use and external one and connect them via the jacks for send-return, right?
@NueNueKiro
@NueNueKiro 2 жыл бұрын
@@AprendeScratching yeas it has send and returns, two pairs to be more exact, one assignable for recording. It’s a great idea, plus the Denon’s from what I played with behave very similarly with Traktor
@darktherapy
@darktherapy 2 жыл бұрын
Can the scratch/cut affect also have other affects added to it? Like echo or reverb?
@Mojaxx
@Mojaxx 2 жыл бұрын
No, when you activate the scratch cutter it turns off the FX.
@djmikemedium
@djmikemedium 2 жыл бұрын
The best fx to me are reverb, brake and echo. Everything else to me does not get utilized. There was an effect on the rane 57 which was kind of a downward gate fx that I loved but that’s it
@seanpumfrett6265
@seanpumfrett6265 2 жыл бұрын
Nice review. I play a lot of 60s garage on vinyl and really like using flanger and phaser over the tracks, echo is excellent, vinyl brake is also useful
@704queencitygoon6
@704queencitygoon6 7 ай бұрын
5:23 so can you add your own effects?
@marknarain6617
@marknarain6617 2 жыл бұрын
how many more 2 channel mixer where is the dam 900 nxs2 replacement
@mac8050
@mac8050 2 жыл бұрын
Colours dope
@DerrickFiles
@DerrickFiles 2 жыл бұрын
9:13, The Library controls are also available on the numark scratch. Press shift, while moving the loop control knob. You're welcom
@janein4680
@janein4680 2 жыл бұрын
Isn't the DJM S3 the most affordable S-Sieries mixer to date, or did I miss something?
@ferguswaveforms
@ferguswaveforms 2 жыл бұрын
I no longer use Traktor, but the Traktor FX were one of the best things about the software. There is a wide selection and they just sounded great, with excellent flexibility. I am a big fan of Reverbs, I like how you can play with the illusion of space using a good Reverb.
@misterpgc
@misterpgc 2 жыл бұрын
USB powered and a magvel fader🔥. I just wished that the rev7, s7 & s11 had usbc
@Ysosassythedj
@Ysosassythedj Жыл бұрын
It’s equipped with a Magvel Pro, a newer revision!
@deejayphani
@deejayphani 2 жыл бұрын
Numark scratch has pretty decent serato features and it definitely comes within the budget of hobby & beginner DJs. Numark scratch 500$ Vs s5 800 $
@uncleo9336
@uncleo9336 2 жыл бұрын
As far as FX, for some reason I prefer DELAY over ECHO. I don’t even know the difference. Repeater forever. That built-in scratch thing on the S5 looks like a problem. How do you learn or practice if it does it for you? Thanks Jax. You dun rule👊🏿
@djdeemz7651
@djdeemz7651 2 жыл бұрын
The difference is what happens when you close the fader , with delay if you activate and close fader it cuts all sound with echo you still get the echo sounds , im the mix either is the same but for scratching you need to use echo
@risquedj
@risquedj 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, so this is what I've been waiting for?!? No 900NXS2 successor?!? Wow, perhaps Pioneer are at the end of their reign. I'm going to revisit this post later today, and if nothing is announced by 06/01, then my sentiments will remain intact.
@johnpuga1982
@johnpuga1982 2 жыл бұрын
Bring back the flanger on every drop!
@NueNueKiro
@NueNueKiro 2 жыл бұрын
I'm on Traktor and I use exclusively software FX. Tried the DJM ones and the RMX-1000 and they sound imho trash like the mixers themselves. Going back to what I use, I have per side a delay, delay t3 and beatmasher, in this order, on one FX rack, and on the second per side I use the Xone filter emulation with a custom mapping on my X1 to switch from insert to postfader, plus the mixer FX on the S4 MK3, namely Reverb, Barber Pole, Crush and I tend to switch between Noise and Time Gate. I'm interested to experiment with pedals but that would be a nightmare to get on recordings.
@Mojaxx
@Mojaxx 2 жыл бұрын
Traktor’s FX have always been superb. I love the Tape Delay, Dubfire-style. The way they do the racks and the routing options are awesome. Other developers could certainly learn from Native Instruments on FX!
@djhemirukahemisphere8893
@djhemirukahemisphere8893 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds great. I have a rev 7 and the effects have one controller knob. My numark nv 2 has 3 controll depth knobs per channel!
@NueNueKiro
@NueNueKiro 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mojaxx I don't know if you are aware of the public beta of Traktor 3.6 but they want to include Izotope Ozone's maximizer compressor on the master limiter as an option, with dial-in properties like threshold and gain. I'm really curious what will they do now that they are in partnership with Izotope
@DB82TECHNO
@DB82TECHNO 2 жыл бұрын
Wow something not BLACK loving the look of this one.
@DjGatesHarlemYoungGun
@DjGatesHarlemYoungGun 2 жыл бұрын
Mixars duo mk 2 is a battle mixer and cheaper. Plus have more features. That price for their new mixer need to come down
@EMBEEclassic
@EMBEEclassic 2 жыл бұрын
PIONEER PLEASE ADD SPLIT CUE!
@oisin7644
@oisin7644 2 жыл бұрын
This is the third video I've seen where this mixer is compared to the S7 and S11, has everyone forgotten about the S9? XD
@winst999
@winst999 2 жыл бұрын
Does the mic have effects on it?
@DJFlex1
@DJFlex1 2 жыл бұрын
Nope
@connorjones284
@connorjones284 2 жыл бұрын
Can't they just update my sl3 box instead???
@jel2106
@jel2106 Жыл бұрын
I don’t normally post negative comments but I have to say that in trying to be a bit different in the look of this one, Pioneer made some odd choices. The cross fader reverse and curve controls should be dedicated buttons/switches in the same way they are on the s3. They took up a load of redundant space on the front of the mixer with the tension adjust ‘inner workings’ when they could have put the CF reverse and curve controls there instead. The scratch cutter is a beginner feature but it’s a mid-range price point and with a high quality crossfader (Magvel pro not standard Magvel) like the S7/9/11, I’m not sure who it’s aimed at. If it’s potential Numark Scratch users, then you’re paying an extra £300. Yes, there are more features but I’m not convinced it’s worth the extra. The faceplate colour? Not a fan - it just cheapens the look imo. Black should at least be an option. I think the s3, s7 and s11 were all appropriately priced and obvious upgrades from each other but the s5 feels a weird mix of some upgrades but some odd choices that make it feel and look more budget than it should be. Nope, not for me this one.
@DjRiderTheDragon
@DjRiderTheDragon 2 жыл бұрын
What up with the red and black
@Ysosassythedj
@Ysosassythedj Жыл бұрын
satan uses dvs
@geoffloke7895
@geoffloke7895 2 жыл бұрын
I only use echo out, I have no need for effects, hardware or software, but that's just me
@royceballos9837
@royceballos9837 2 жыл бұрын
You serato DJ's are missing the one important thing that Numark doesn't allow you to do, and that's using the effects when spinning Vinyl. That's huge if you're a Vinyl DJ that occasionally uses serato. And, the faders on the Numark don't stand a chance for those that like to cut. And sorry to say, Numark isn't what they used to be in the 90's. Pioneer is keeping up with DJ's, and listening to what they want. So if your only complaint is the price, you're looking for cheap, not quality.
@DanielleKingdjdinosaur
@DanielleKingdjdinosaur 2 жыл бұрын
ok my mistake i thought this didnt have paddles but now i see them
@bendybenbenderson
@bendybenbenderson 2 жыл бұрын
I've been using a Xone:92 mixer for years but feel nervous using a laptop for anything in a live environment so have always used external FX units in my set up. But I own a pub and recently bought the Pioneer XDJ-RX2 to use there so was excited to use on-board FX in the mixer section and have to say it was a bit lacklustre for me. It's also my 1st time ever using a Pioneer digital filter and with my ears being used to the Xone filter, I was actually quite shocked as to how bad the Pioneer filter was. But I recently re-bought an EFX-1000 unit (which I traded in for the RMX-1000 upon release & regretted it) and that unit is STILL the peak of Pioneer EFX if you ask me. Having the freedom to use effects freely & not tied to a beat is so refreshing.........and to answer your question Mojax the WAH effect from the 2004 EFX sounds much better than the filter effect on the XDJ-RX2. Also on the 2004 (almost 20yrs old now) is the kill switch options for low/mid/high on the beat effect section. This disappeared after this and has only just started to reappeared on the recent high end expensive mixers. This is an amazing feature and can't understand why this was not implemented in the DJM mixers after 2004 as should have been easy to do. >So kill switches on the mixer anyway but defo kill switches for the effects >Better filters on Pioneer gear >using a touch strip or something so effects can be used freely & not tied to the beat
@Mojaxx
@Mojaxx 2 жыл бұрын
The 900NXS2 did get the FX frequency switches, thankfully. And on a lot of more recent Pioneer DJ stuff you can add some high-pass to different FX, which is what I’m always looking for. But totally with you on the EFX-1000! The RMX line is very cool but just doesn’t work with a lot of hardware, as it’s insert only. I still use my EFX-500 quite often, which has terrible sound compared to the EFX-1000, but I balk at the price of decade-old (or older) 1000s on the used market.
@bendybenbenderson
@bendybenbenderson 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mojaxx The EFX-1000 is hard to find & crazy money. But I recently found one in Cramlington for £60 on Facebook marketplace in fully working order, just needed a new knob for the time parameter which I got 3D printed and work perfectly - I cannot believe I found it 10mins up the road from me for that price 😀
@Mojaxx
@Mojaxx 2 жыл бұрын
@@bendybenbenderson goddam it, that’s near me too. I could have copped that 😢
@Goggzzzz
@Goggzzzz 2 жыл бұрын
I had the Xone 92 it was a lovely mix updated to the PX5 and Xone 96 had nothing but problems A&H new stuff is rubbish. But they do sound good when they work.
@Ferbeldeyberb
@Ferbeldeyberb 2 жыл бұрын
is it class compliant?
@Ysosassythedj
@Ysosassythedj Жыл бұрын
yes (cos it works with ios djay app)
@djcarbontt
@djcarbontt 2 жыл бұрын
At this point I'm almost Pioneer hardware effects only and thus a S9 or S7/11 mixer kinda guy or the SRT/Rev7 controllers. About 40% of the time 1/2 or 1/4 echo and 60% of the time the default 50% reverb. I actually thoroughly disliked the software effects from almost day one and last used the Serato effects with my SL1/TTM56 combo.
@jeff-metal
@jeff-metal Жыл бұрын
I don't get it. It's an €800 mixer with cut-off curve on the cross-fader but nothing on the upfaders? We're talking 1990's options. Something so simple for creative DJs missed. I'm looking for something to superceed my Z2 mixer at a reasonable price. I guess this aint it 😞
@potapetsoleksandr1935
@potapetsoleksandr1935 Жыл бұрын
and where is the DJM S11 review..?
@scratchgonzo
@scratchgonzo 2 жыл бұрын
This was looking good until "there are no paramater buttons" wow! That is just insanity that they would chose not to include this!
@Ysosassythedj
@Ysosassythedj Жыл бұрын
It’s a bit of a letdown! Massively agree with you!
@oldstyleanalog6459
@oldstyleanalog6459 2 жыл бұрын
All djs.pro or bedroom.To learn better and faster Save ur money and buy a s11 or a rane 72.i have a djm 900 nxs2 with the rmx 1000.i will get a separate midi controller and I don't need anything else.When u have every feature rammed together there will always be failure points.Dont get me wrong s11 s 7 s5 and rane 72 are all beautiful.
@starlite3597
@starlite3597 2 жыл бұрын
i disagree the usb c connection is the first thing that can go faulty on this mixer
@69Beats
@69Beats 2 жыл бұрын
You sure? How often do these connections break on peoples phones? And people treat their phones way worse than DJs do with their mixers.
@djxsquizit
@djxsquizit 2 жыл бұрын
USB C's are more reliable than iphone connections
@guido69x
@guido69x 2 жыл бұрын
A bad Rane knckoff!
@rigomortisfxstudios
@rigomortisfxstudios 2 жыл бұрын
i know a girl who uses the cutter alot as for sale i have seen it for a low as 549
@Ysosassythedj
@Ysosassythedj Жыл бұрын
cap
@kvnkrz271
@kvnkrz271 2 жыл бұрын
Forgotten but the cheapest is the DJM-S3!!
@djgerah693
@djgerah693 Жыл бұрын
Nowadays not only phones but also mixers come without a power adapter in the box.
@mike._.feliciano6782
@mike._.feliciano6782 2 жыл бұрын
It's a nice mixer, I just don't thinks its worth an additional $300 over the scratch...imo
@Ysosassythedj
@Ysosassythedj Жыл бұрын
apparently the Numark works in Internal mode whereas the S5 is working in External mode, explaining the sharper cuts of the S5
@djbeathound2989
@djbeathound2989 2 жыл бұрын
Uhm… cute thing with the bus powered stuff… what if you have that venue setup with an S5 and you have to switch over?? You won’t notice how it’s powered but the mixer will power cycle… to me sounds stupid 😂😅
@DaveDomenicano
@DaveDomenicano 2 жыл бұрын
I really don’t understand why use only 4 pads for channel 🤦🏻 with 8 pad for channel and maybe extra 50€ will be the best. 🤬
@Dubmayer
@Dubmayer 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know where Pioneer went! I prefer the DJM 600 and 800 FX units after that it became all overloaded and weird sounding!
@djinfamous2
@djinfamous2 2 жыл бұрын
Better make sure u hit that mode button right before u hit a pad 😰
@rjmn1
@rjmn1 2 жыл бұрын
Trying to compare to numark scratch is hilarious, it's literally 30 dollars shy of being double the price of the scratch down under 1370 vs 700 dollars.... 8 pads and hardware efx would be better
@fredbissnette3104
@fredbissnette3104 2 жыл бұрын
lol the scratch effect is like the sync feature on cdjs and controllers no skills to master before you look like a maven. smh
@OT83
@OT83 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who launched the Numark Scratch (before covid), this mixer still does not capture the low end market for the money. With Numark Scratch for $500 you get all of this (DJ essentials) with Serato DJ Pro. The extra $300 with no onboard efx is a complete waste of design. No DJ ever wanted a USB C power, nobody asked for that. So as a former Numark employee, Pioneer DJ “hedge fund” engineers (yes men) please try again.
@AprendeScratching
@AprendeScratching 2 жыл бұрын
Well, I agree the price is so high, but about the waste of design... the advantages against the Numark Scratch are: - Magvel Fader Pro (it seems some Mini Innofader units had too much non-fixable dead space for crabs an other types of scratches, it should had included a Mini Innofader Pro at least) - no soft cuts when using Serato (Numark Scratch works in internal mix mode when the switch is set to PC in a channel, it's a problem Serato never fixed in its internal mix) - more pads functionality (access to 5-8, and other ones like scratch bank) - Post-crossfader FX even with analog sources (the Numark Scratch has post-crossfader FX from and for Serato and nothing FX for analog sources but the filter, I personally love to use echo sometimes when cutting) - portable option (because the USB power source, I'm sure portablists will use it in the streets) - Aux in (if you use two turntables with the Numark Scratch you can't plug in a smartphone with a looper without unpluging one turntable... really, Numark, really?) In my opinion, the Numark Scratch went too far to be low cost, and the S5 too high to be "hobbyst". It's a pity there isn't a half way option between them.
@OT83
@OT83 2 жыл бұрын
@@AprendeScratching I agree on the post fader efx on analog for Numark Scratch. But the point here for the entry level is to give them what they paid for. So essentially like learning how to ride a bike you just need to pedal and brake. For us more experienced guys/gals we want more so we upgrade to the next level. You are right about the market place as there is still opportunity for a mixer in the $500 - $800. With maybe onboard efx and Innofader pro.
@bvee9202
@bvee9202 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. To add, its only $100-200 less than the s7, which has onboard effects, and 8 pads per channel. Not sure why anyone would choose this at a $900 price point.
@AprendeScratching
@AprendeScratching 2 жыл бұрын
@@OT83 That's true, I think this mixer can't fit the entry level. I guess it fits the _kind-of-wealthy_ hobbyst people 😂 But I think there is another option at the entry level. Although I've read bad comments about the Magvel Fader (the "little" brother), I own a DJM-250MK2 and... it does the job. Ok, it's true: has no pads, no FX controls (not even post-crossfader FX), but you can learn to cut with it, at least with my unit, with a pretty decent dead space (about 1 mm) and a nice cut. Rekordbox instead of Serato, but I feel its DVS works really nice (after re-callibrating it in the Rekordbox setup, before that it sucks a little bit with slow drags). Unless it happens to be that nowadays other Magvel Fader units go wrong or something, for 350$/€ I think it's a good mixer for entry level. Perhaps with a big lack of controls, that's right. Same for the S3, but with Serato and +100~140$/€ more 😁 And Mixars seems to be dead, so I think it's dangerous to get some of their remaining Duos from the shops.
@AprendeScratching
@AprendeScratching 2 жыл бұрын
@@bvee9202 Hope they'll push the price lower later if they don't sell them... but it's so close to the S7 (10 in-10 out audio interface, for example), I don't know how much they could do it...
@FunctionGermany
@FunctionGermany 2 жыл бұрын
overused FX? FLANGER!!! and high resonance filter! i almost always turn filter resonance completely down, way cleaner transitions when i use it.
@Mojaxx
@Mojaxx 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, I’m frustrated by filters I can’t adjust the resonance on. Like it a bit lower than normal myself.
@emiliocanta5537
@emiliocanta5537 2 жыл бұрын
Finally USB-C takes its place in the gear.
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