Pokemon Horizons “Gym Leaders” Are A Bit Different…

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Ай бұрын

Discussing Dot vs Iono and The Role of a Gym Leader in the Liko/Roy Era
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@GarryDKing Ай бұрын

I think what's also cool about this new series is how involved the gym leaders are, Namely Iono, She Even showed up during the Black Rayquaza fight of all things.

@UmbreonxUmbreon Ай бұрын

Which ep was that?

@MasterofChaldea015 Ай бұрын

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@Unstealleon Ай бұрын

That's ONLY because iono is .'s friend

@Skymeg3-13 Ай бұрын

iono wasn't "there" so to speak, she was a distance away recording and just so happens to catch a glimpse of what was happening

@yass0420 25 күн бұрын

@@Unstealleon“.” 😭

@miniblitz3971 Ай бұрын

horizons battles are so well animated damn

@UmbreonxUmbreon Ай бұрын

They have been snapping lately

@TaylWillow14 Ай бұрын

I love Dot and Roy’s mentor style relationship to their gym leader but Liko wasn’t really given that I mean I’m not complaining, great that we will see Iono (probably) frequently and maybe Brassius again but Katy didn’t really bond as much with Liko as the other two. Maybe they will go back to it later or Friede is supposed to be a mentor type to Liko Also I think we were robbed with Paldean Winds, instead of adding to the Paldean cast like Twilight Wings did we got completely 3 new characters. I hope HZ fills in the gaps, Iono appears a lot so atleast we will probably get some hints at what her past was like

@UmbreonxUmbreon Ай бұрын

Yea Palawan Wings should be revisited, that series was amazingly. Its so weird they kinda treated Liko’s test like a throwaway but Friede does seem like the father figure/mentor atp

@sovest555 Ай бұрын

I think Friede is more meant as Liko's mentor figure overall, but she also could develop a secondary mentor with another gym leader down the line. After all, the trio will conceivably keep challenging the other gym leaders (and maybe the Elite Four) for the Intermediate and Advanced parts of the course that likely will come later on. That said, I certainly hope they do an adaption of Teal Mask and Indigo Disk...especially considering what happened in regard to Terapagos in the latter 👀

@Unstealleon Ай бұрын

Paldean winds is a COMPLETELY Different series uploaded on KZfaq and NOT CREATED/ANIMATED BY OLM. And has NOTHING to do with canon anime series

@TaylWillow14 Ай бұрын

@@Unstealleon yup, doesn’t need to be Even tho the things they may do in the episodes may not be canon in the anime they still give more insight and screen time to said characters

@Unstealleon Ай бұрын

@@TaylWillow14 No. Things they do in the Epsiodes are canon. the games/TCG/Anime/Manga all these have their separate canons

@wa_akii6873 Ай бұрын

i definitely think gym battles so far are a lot more realistic. then again though this is their basics test, i dont think these are the same as their gym battles bc they aren't getting gym badges, theyre getting stamps. tehy're also going back to school after so I definitely think they will be expectedto actually win against gyms later on, the Basics Test in my opinion was quite obviously just "terastal basics: when to use it, how to use it and what it does", and the actual gym battles will be later on as they learn how to use terastal in school. im also thinking this bc there is a timeskip in the s&v games after the player enrolls in the school before we are presented with the 3 roads.

@UmbreonxUmbreon Ай бұрын

A time skip would be epic ngl

@givemeoats Ай бұрын

This gives me hope that we'll always have future Iono appearances way after her gym is finished.

@UmbreonxUmbreon Ай бұрын

Same, her personality is too big not to 🌟

@KingJH0510 Ай бұрын

This is how gym leaders should be. This is what weve been wanting. In no world would a 10 yo kid just walk up and beat a gym leader. The gym leaders give out tests, they assess the trainer and decide whether or not they are worthy of the badge, regardless of whether they won or loss. That said, geeta is still irredeemable in the games because she says she never holds back which would mean she is literally the weakest champion rank trainer 💀Hopefully they fix her in the anime

@UmbreonxUmbreon Ай бұрын

Geeta needs a redemption arc so bad 😭 that battle was terrible

@gengatuberofficial7009 Ай бұрын

Umm, try challenge her at Blueberry.

@crushermach3263 Ай бұрын

Yeah, they fixed her up in the DLC. Leading Glimmora and trailing Kingambit to fully utilize their abilities plus half her team was subbed out for stronger choices. She a real threat.

@Unstealleon Ай бұрын

So you don't have any problem with game's protagonists causally defeating gym leaders by just using one Pokemon but you have problem when Ash Ketchum Not only defeats gym leaders with 3-4 Pokemons BUT ALSO HE USES GREAT STRATEGIES?. Great!

@KingJH0510 Ай бұрын

@@Unstealleon there is a big difference between the games and the anime. The games are an experience for you, the player. You are the one who chooses what your story and journey will look like. But anime is not a choose your own adventure medium. it is trying to tell a story. Themes that can be explored in the anime like trust, friendship, self-confidence, creativity, willpower etc. are not translatable into a game. While it is cool to see ash be a strong trainer, and ultimately become the strongest, he is still a child. That kind of 'you can be the very best' storytelling already exists in the games, its kind of redundant to do it all over again with the anime. Horizons takes the more realistic approach for a lot things, not just this. The characters actually need money, liko and roy are under adult supervision etc. Having gyms be more of a learning experience rather than a strict battle prowess test is much more interesting and provides for good story beats

@animezing2133 Ай бұрын

Great video! But I think Quaxly learned Aqua Step, not liquidation. And I ❤ how Horizons is taking a new look at Gym Leaders, being more as mentors (especially since the the three protagonists are in "school".)

@UmbreonxUmbreon Ай бұрын

I thought so too but Aqua Step is learned exclusively by Quaquaval and same 🙌🏻 they have way too much personality to be just stuck battling

@animezing2133 Ай бұрын

@@UmbreonxUmbreon oh yea. Good point. I just thought because Quaxly was kicking and there was water everywhere. 🤦‍♀️ I hope we get to see more GymLeadwrs soon, especially Tulip. 💖

@efcoolstar3849 29 күн бұрын

Love to see more stories of Gym Leaders and Elite Four like their lives before becoming who they are unlike the Ash era where we see Ash earning badges in battle.

@UmbreonxUmbreon 29 күн бұрын

I think the Iono origin story is otw 👀 since she’s objectively the most popular gym leader in Paldea

@babyseal8822 Ай бұрын

Its funny how you already make video with the same title XD Also i love how theres no plot armor in their battle, like teddirusa charm nerfing floragato attack harsly, fuecoco stomping tantrum became strongee everytime flamethrower miss and belibolt getting charger everytime it got water gun, also the reason they give dot 2 episode because of in term of development and power, she was behind the two, but now she equal with liko and roy in term of power scale Also the explores are secret organization, unlike team Rocket who very know as organization who like to steal other people pokemon, TR is well know in kanto and johto but not in the other region Also about katy training, they put sango there as example what failed terastal course look like

@babyseal8822 Ай бұрын

I dunno why i keep talking about sango being used as example of failed terastal training

@UmbreonxUmbreon Ай бұрын

Lmao it’s cool

@babyseal8822 Ай бұрын

@@UmbreonxUmbreon also about dot getting 2 episode, liko actually got the same 2 episode propotion same as dot, the only different is that liko defeat pokemon trainer while dot defeat wild pokemon

@Unstealleon Ай бұрын

The Ash's series Literally has 0 Plot Armour in it. that's just a false allegation created to downplay Ash Ketchum

@babyseal8822 Ай бұрын

@@Unstealleon explain how thundershock can 1hit KO geodude? Explain how ash can damage ghost type with normal type move without odor sleuth? Explain since when pikachu can change his z move direction?, and lastly, why pikachu didnt get disqualified when he fainted?

@luisag_tube Ай бұрын

I thought Dot just meant that Iono doesn’t live on the ship and was asking why she was onboard

@UmbreonxUmbreon Ай бұрын

Idk if Iono actually boarded the ship, I think she just gave dock clearance

@thefearlessone2649 Ай бұрын

I think there's a way writers could've handled Katy vs Liko without nerfing her so hard. The writers didn't give Floragato a depth in moveset, but I still think she could do something with Magical Leaf, especially with its secondary effect that distinguishes it from the move Leafage. I think Magical Leaf should been used as a Counter Shield because the move can be controlled same as Ampipom's Swift where it is used defensively and offensively. Would be great blast from the past and wouldn't make Liko look like a sitting duck. The last time Magical Leaf bypass of accuracy check was animated was in her battle against Roy, which is disappointing because the modern anime usually emphasizes moves' secondary effect.

@UmbreonxUmbreon Ай бұрын

I agree the move has utility, idk if their purposely not focusing on Liko not getting better as a battler to emphasize that’s not the path she’s chosen but I mean come on her starter has so much potential power scaling wise

@thefearlessone2649 Ай бұрын

@@UmbreonxUmbreon At this point, it's better the writers scrap Magical Leaf for Petal Blizzard (makes sense for the yoyo flower bud). And learn Acrobatics or Play Rough. They made her a one trick pony yet not even have her make full use of Magical Leaf secondary effect.

@soeaung1740 Ай бұрын

New generation is great

@keylessdragonball1574 Ай бұрын

i agree i loved the battle

@UmbreonxUmbreon Ай бұрын

Peak Horizons ✅

@-FJ. 28 күн бұрын

I like your videos about Horizons. I subscribed 🎉

@UmbreonxUmbreon 28 күн бұрын

Thank you! 😇

@exaunitive4948 Ай бұрын

wait terastallized bellibolt?in the games she used a terastallized mismagius

@UmbreonxUmbreon Ай бұрын

I think she saves the big guns for regular Gym Battles

@dantemustdie00 Ай бұрын

@UmbreonxUmbreon yeah using her Mismagius would be overkill for a test

@etherealdragon207 26 күн бұрын

@@UmbreonxUmbreonDon't forget that the anime does do it own thing at times.

@Poke-ladd Ай бұрын

I wonder if these explorers group was mention in the games somewhere

@UmbreonxUmbreon Ай бұрын

I would love for somebody to find some Easter Eggs because they did catch me off guard because I was expecting Team Star shenanigans

@czairkolmoslink5952 Ай бұрын

I haven’t watched Pokemon in a long time but not winning the battle but getting a badge because of a different reason seems weird. Feels like they could have done both.

@WildcardGrey 26 күн бұрын

Iono be a blessing

@UmbreonxUmbreon 26 күн бұрын

Absolutely

@theolin5486 14 күн бұрын

I gotta say i think the new show is better written, especially sprigatito over ashes picachu as conttoversial as that may be. But its so dumb how to gym leaders only use 1 pokemon, its like they lowerd the bar wich feels cheap

@justdavid1712 Ай бұрын

Yk for some reason at the end of this arc of(if they do roy justice) I want to see him have a 1 on 1 battle against Freide to see how much he’s grown as a trainer and how strong fuecoco has become and I just wanna see fuecoco vs charizard

@UmbreonxUmbreon Ай бұрын

Vs Zard? Lmao would be interesting ngl, he’d probably get 1 clean hit like he did Ray but that’s still a W imo

@justdavid1712 Ай бұрын

Well right now I’d say charizard he one tap fuecoco but if the writers do Roy justice maybe we see some development from fuecoco and Roy as the journey goes on and maybe in that battle it pushes Fuecoco and in that battle is when fuecoco can evolve

@sandradermark8463 Ай бұрын

Iono may be based on Valencian vtuber Chaoko.

@UmbreonxUmbreon Ай бұрын

Really? That’s dope I gotta look that up

@HeavenHalos 23 күн бұрын

The algorithm really wanted me to watch this video.

@UmbreonxUmbreon 23 күн бұрын

Lmao wym?

@kiraramax2066 Ай бұрын

I will never use the name Iono, because it felt weird to me that she is named that in the dubbed, also the fact that I never watched the dubbed version of the new Pokemon anime, which is just called Pokemon(2023) in japanese. I will always refer her as Nanjamo which is her japanese name, and Vtuber name.

@UmbreonxUmbreon Ай бұрын

Fair stance lol

@Unstealleon Ай бұрын

Bruh Dub has nothing to do with names blame Gamefreak's English translators for that.

@LK-em2ly Ай бұрын

Imagine being so passionate about something so minor and insignificant. People call characters different names all the time no one cares but you. All American and English speaking people will be using Lono if you wanna be a stubborn weeboo go right ahead

@kiraramax2066 Ай бұрын

@@LK-em2ly calling an asian a weaboo huh? Someone who has grown up with anime since early childhood.

@kiraramax2066 Ай бұрын

@@LK-em2ly and knows 20 years more anime than you.

@Hyperzertoon01 29 күн бұрын

honestly i love Horizons beside the peak Iono fanservice all of it is so good Liko is cute and honestly i prefer her to Ash how to not talk about my favorite Orio and her japanese va Honorable mention: i like Coral being a complete gremlin

@UmbreonxUmbreon 28 күн бұрын

Yooo the Pokémon Company has been wild lately with that I’m like bruh… and facts Sandwich is always a joy to watch lmao

@fightfutures2432 Ай бұрын

I want to eat more Pokemon Horizons with Iono

@UmbreonxUmbreon Ай бұрын

Lmaoo

@marcoscabezolajr.8408 Ай бұрын

She's an amazingly well handled character, not just a ball of endless energy, but actually caring and helpful to others. She streams and cares a lot about it, but off camera she's awesome. 🩵🩷 Always happy to see her on screen

@UmbreonxUmbreon Ай бұрын

@@marcoscabezolajr.8408 we stan Iono 💛

@marcoscabezolajr.8408 Ай бұрын

@@UmbreonxUmbreon we do 🥰