Polish Lavvu Size comparison 1 vs 2 vs 3!- does the size really make a difference?

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Polish Lavvu Size comparison 1 vs 2 vs 3!- does the size really make a difference?

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In this video I try and document some of the size differences in the three lavvu options.
I first of all theorised this with math working out the expected maximum diameter of each shelter and then in this video I put this theory to the test.
The results were interesting, with the theory we used standardised sizes for each lavvu
Size 1 - 170 cm poncho length - 190cm diameter shelter
Size 2 - 180 cm poncho length - 220cm diameter shelter
Size 3 - 190 cm poncho length - 250cm diameter shelter
In practice not all ponchos are exact sizes with up to 5cm variations noted.
This combined with inefficiencies in the pitch, uneven ground, sag in the material, positioning of the pegging eyelets in relations to the end of the material etc all allow for discrepancies.
I found that the diameter calculation somewhat held up especially in the size three but some variations were noted, namely the size one being 175cm rather than the "normal" 170cm
In all it was a nice experiment and hopefully the results in the video can give some indication of the extra space each size offers.
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@unmissable 2 жыл бұрын

I am 5'11" , but I bought a size 1 because I always sleep on my side in a fetal position. I have never been able to fall asleep on my back, so I was happy with the smaller one. I wasn't going to use a tent stove with it either. Not because it isn't a good idea, but because I would just worry about it. Fortunately my deerhound lurcher normally sleeps on top of me to keep me warm.

@dirksteffens2390 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent comparison, I am about to buy my first Lavvu set and this helped tremendously to gauge size. Thank you

@maxsparks5183 8 ай бұрын

Great video! Considering getting a lavvuu but like everyone, what size? You are the only person I’ve seen who points out that the thickness of your sleeping mat will make a difference as to how close your feet and head are to touching the interior of the tent due to the sloping sides. Well done. You have this American’s subscription. 🇺🇸

@tonyanddeb1012 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Mark, Sven Doveskry from FB here, great video. Thanks for taking the time to make it. I have my 2 size ones and 1 size two and that'll have to do me for now! Got you a new sub too by the way! Cheers from France

@WildCampingNI 3 жыл бұрын

Sven, thanks, I’m glad you enjoyed the video. If the sizes work for you that’s all that matter, the size 3 are a bit pricey at the moment

@culturafinancierayoutube8450 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for this well made effort, to show information not even the people who sell these items let the customers know. I can't believe the amount of money that is charged for just a few inches more.

@WildCampingNI Жыл бұрын

Rarity can cause some silly markets

@deanpricepestboss 3 жыл бұрын

Great comparison Mark. Thanks for sharing 🙏

@Sagewitchevensong 3 жыл бұрын

Good wee video for anyone undecided on which size Lavvu to get, .When I was trolling MM I was holding out for a size 3 but they had none of any size available for ages and a day , so when a size 2 came up I snapped it up. To be fair the size 2 is plenty room for me ,gear, and outbacker. ATB

@WildCampingNI 3 жыл бұрын

Yea a size two is the work horse of lavvu world. A size three is only really better if your 6ft plus in my opinion, I can use a size two grand

@ScoutManSteve 3 жыл бұрын

I think that means either my size 1 is too big or my size 2 is too small, I must check it out now after seeing this video. Thanks for putting this together mate 👍

@WildCampingNI 3 жыл бұрын

I do think they vary. was happily surprised that the size one I bought is in the bigger side!

@michaelconley2896 2 жыл бұрын

If you used size one and three together as a standard kit, it would create a double wall Lavvu; greatly increasing thermal properties from the air pocket between layers. Thank you for showing this layered profile shot. Size one and two are rather negligible in size difference; you wonder why option two was ever created. I personally think the Lavvu should have had the option for detachable walls, similar to a pavilion or bell tent. I would be curious to know how layering size one and three or size two and three together makes a difference in retaining warmth.

@WildCampingNI 2 жыл бұрын

Would be an interesting experiment for sure!

@michaelconley2896 2 жыл бұрын

@@WildCampingNI have you any links and resources to authentic or reproduction Lavvus?

@TimmyVision Жыл бұрын

@@michaelconley2896 military mart

@maxsparks5183 8 ай бұрын

Who’s carrying 2 of these relatively heavy lavvus?

@lardyguts2 Жыл бұрын

great and well thought out video

@graemepaton3024 3 жыл бұрын

Great video mate thanks for the info 👍

@WildCampingNI 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the watch buddy

@Joesays2024 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Mark . That was a lot of info but it’s going to help as I was looking to buy and didn’t know which one was for me . It’s simple know , the 3 as not a lot in it

@WildCampingNI 3 жыл бұрын

The only problem is the availability and price of the size three Joe.

@Joesays2024 3 жыл бұрын

I’ll hang on and just wait to one comes my way 🍷🤣

@jocelynwalborn2233 2 жыл бұрын

thank you so much! great vid

@adboroutdoor..7662 3 жыл бұрын

Hi! Good video. I like this tent also. Sligh note. In polish we don't have and use that word: lavvu ;-). We speak Polish for it: pałatka (read: p.a.w.a.t.k.a, better check the pronunciation of a word on translator) Lavvu.. is a Sami tent, a kind of tipi, lower tipi, more resistant to strong wind and this is a word from the Sami language (Scandinavian Lapland). Funny journey of words, verbal/naming mess. We (Polish people) made the military raincoat which is called "pałatka" (two are made into a tent), and there is a word for it in English: tipi, tepee but almost everyone calls it: "lavvu" - Sams tent. So the name "polish lavuu" give's U polish sams tipi/tent ;-)

@WildCampingNI 3 жыл бұрын

Yes! It’s a joke I make in the English community regularly! I always say the polish “lavvu” isn’t even a lavvu. 😂. Problem is the English speaking community has adopted this name and if I used plash palakta no one would know what I mean! I’ve tried persuading the community of this but lavvu has stuck for now 😅 Thanks for the very informative comment.

@adboroutdoor..7662 3 жыл бұрын

@@WildCampingNINevertheless, thank you for belonging to the Palatka's Church and preaching a good word ;-). Have a good day and spring in your heart! Greetings from the European Land of Bison.

@theguywitheyebrows Жыл бұрын

negligible difference, then, what maybe 8sqft additional space at the most? size 1 for a small guy oughta do just fine. much thanks for your simple video. and it was pretty scientific i say

@WildCampingNI Жыл бұрын

Glad it was useful

@JMCreations97 Жыл бұрын

I have just ordered two size 1 lavvu and im very concerned about space as ive got a bit of kit put inside aswell as myself, would you recommend putting 4 of them together to make it bigger? Many thanks and very informative video

@TheWtfnonamez 2 жыл бұрын

This implications of your video are far more intelligent, and based on geometry, than I realised at first. These lavvus are sized according to the height of the soldier, but the end result when you tent them up is a bit more significant than I appreciated. It also made me realise that maybe pegging them out slightly differently could buy me a bit more head room. Its funny to think that a lavvu that is only a few inches bigger can end up making a footprint that is nearly a foot wider.

@ccwweeman3385 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing mate I take it I definitely have a size 2 after seeing this much appreciated stay safe....🏕🔥...colin

@WildCampingNI 3 жыл бұрын

Colin generally the number of eyelets at the bottom of each lavvu denotes it’s size 1 for a size 1 2 for a size 2 and 3 for a size three.

@willisblevins4190 3 жыл бұрын

Good show thanks

@blitzkopf7267 2 жыл бұрын

could you tell me the dimensions of the installed and fastened tent №2? I have no options to check before buy

@WildCampingNI 2 жыл бұрын

The size two from memory is 2.2m diameter. But due to the angle not as much of that is useable. My recommendation is 5’10 is a comfort limit for the size two.

@indio87knivesandaxes Жыл бұрын

hi, I am 1,78 i bouht size 1, what do you think is too small for sleping? thanks.

@WildCampingNI Жыл бұрын

Sorry for the late reply, it would be cosy. But where there is a will there is a wat

@theoutdoortraditionalist 3 жыл бұрын

Not a lavvu type myself but an interesting comparison nevertheless.

@SuttonWildOutdoors 3 жыл бұрын

Thankyou. Appreciated that, as I'm 5ft 6, I was hoping to buy the size 2, but Militarymart only have size 1 left. So I'm wondering whether I can get away with a size 1. Everyone on KZfaq tends to have a size 2. But people don't seem to factor in the fact that when lying down your head will be close to or touching the canvas. I just want to be sure that the size 1 will have adequate room for my height prostrate. Any ideas please? Thanks Stuart

@WildCampingNI 3 жыл бұрын

Stuart, you are grand a 5ft6. A size 1 has a diameter of 190cm so even with the drop off you should be more than fine. In the next few months I hope to make a hints abs tips video which show some ways to maximise your useable space. But spoiler you can change the centre pole for a bipod and this means you can lie in the widest part of the tent.

@SuttonWildOutdoors 3 жыл бұрын

@@WildCampingNI Thankyou. I'll order the size 1 then. Keep up the good work.👍

@lector3332 3 жыл бұрын

Love the lauvv got the blue/black size 2

@WildCampingNI 3 жыл бұрын

I seen that in one of the latest videos, it’s a beautiful example of a modified lavvu!

@lector3332 3 жыл бұрын

@@WildCampingNI it's the one in my last video on KZfaq cracking tent ⛰⛰🏕🏕🏞🏞

@dimitargrudevv Жыл бұрын

What is the size of each triangle in one poncho?

@WildCampingNI Жыл бұрын

It varies but roughly 90cm alone the base of each triangle and then the height is dependent on the size 1/2/3

@tienbui969 2 жыл бұрын

Hello. Can you tell me where i can buy this tent ? Thanks you

@WildCampingNI 2 жыл бұрын

This is an army surplus tent, called a polish lavvu or plash palakta. They are becoming very hard to get unfortunately. And the ones that are available is becoming quite expensive. Army surplus shops, eBay etc are the best places to find them.

@northernswedenstories1028 3 жыл бұрын

Hey mate. How much is the weight difference between the different sizes? I'm only after using a half shelter (not a full tent) and was wondering what the weight is of one section? Cheers!

@WildCampingNI 3 жыл бұрын

Each half is approx 1.5kg slightly less for a size 1 slightly more for a size 3 so varies from 3kg - 3.5kg with poles roughly

@northernswedenstories1028 3 жыл бұрын

@@WildCampingNI cheers bud! 1.5kg is not so bad if you use your own walking poles or a stick. I could definitely go on a hike with that weight

@WildCampingNI 3 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@benhikescamps 3 жыл бұрын

Good comparison video. I've just bought the Size 1 and am 5'8" tall. I"ve noticed that my tips of toes just about touch the canvas when lying down. I shuffled back a tiny but but head was then quite near the tent! Although it's an inch or two bigger in diameter, I'm thinking the Size 2 night be better for me. However, the Size 3 looks lovely and roomy for a winter's night! Any thoughts? Thanks - Ben

@WildCampingNI 3 жыл бұрын

You nailed it Ben, size one in my opinion is hard to use. The size two you will notice an immense difference for sure. The size three is hard to get hold of as it’s quite rare. But Military Mart is in the final stages of a replica size three. It’s looking good so I’d wait for that if you are wanting a size three

@benhikescamps 3 жыл бұрын

@@WildCampingNI Many thanks! 👍

@benhikescamps 3 жыл бұрын

@@WildCampingNI - My Size 2 arrived today. What’s interesting is that the Size 1 that I returned was 1977 issue. The Size 2 has 2003 tags on the ponchos which I was quite surprised about. Didn’t know the Polish factories were still manufacturing the Lavvu in the early 2000s. Do you think there’s much difference? Someone said the 2003 versions might have thinner canvas maybe… 🤔

@WildCampingNI 3 жыл бұрын

I’m Mark Morrow on Lavvu Owners world wide, it was me who said that! Yes the newer are almost always thinner material. Having said that they are usually still waterproof as the factory waterproofing has not wore off. Not sure if they were ever issued but as far as I’m concerned it is still surplus.

@benhikescamps 3 жыл бұрын

@@WildCampingNI Hi Mark. Thanks for that and funny that you’re the same person! I was keen to get an older Size 2 but I think with the military surplus stores it’s a bit pot luck in what you get. I got my 2003 one from Military Mart. I would have preferred an older thicker one - for that retro feel - but just the way it goes I guess.