Porsche 911 GT3 RS vs Corvette Z06 | Too much for the road?

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The Porsche 911 GT3 RS and Corvette Z06 weren’t designed for Wales’ finest B-roads, but we took them there anyway to find out which of these highly focused sports cars makes the most sense on road. CAR magazine’s James Dennison is your guide.
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0:00 - Intro
1:08 - Porsche 911 GT3 RS
12:17 - Corvette Z06
18:57 - Verdict
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@CARmagazineTV
@CARmagazineTV 10 ай бұрын
Which car gets your vote? For the written review, be sure to read the upcoming September issue of CAR magazine available in print, online and digital editions soon.
@fqeagles21
@fqeagles21 10 ай бұрын
I think Ferrari 296 GTB should give them a run for the money
@dash-ryan
@dash-ryan 10 ай бұрын
Some education: GT3 Touring = Z06 GT3 = Z06+Z07 Performance Pack GT3RS = ZR1 (coming soon) So, this review had the cards stacked against the Corvette right from the start.
@ssaini5028
@ssaini5028 10 ай бұрын
@@dash-ryan you are forgetting about the upcoming 992 GT2
@jmmch3358
@jmmch3358 9 ай бұрын
1.Porsche GT3RS 2. Corvette Z06 3. Porsche GT3/GT4RS
@VK6AB-
@VK6AB- 9 ай бұрын
@@fqeagles21 Agreed I went for a 296 GTB over the 992 GT3 RS, I couldn't see any point upgrading from my 991.2 GT3 RS. I have also driven the 992 GT3 RS hard on track and fully logged it, whilst excellent it didn't blow me away anymore than my 991.2 GT3 RS, on slow and medium average speed tracks the difference is small - high average speed tracks like Spa or the ring you gain more benefit for sure. Probably the bigger issue for me was the engine and gear box didn't move the game on. Couldn't care less about the interior, adjustable damping in cab is great. And yet overall it didn't really move me - probably because the engine and gear box didn't really move the game on. I might take a look at the 992.2 RS, we'll see.
@terryforsythe8083
@terryforsythe8083 9 ай бұрын
First, the Z06 and GT3 target different buyer expectations, and I don't think there are many people cross shopping them. The GT3 wholly is track focused, whereas the Z06 is more of a balance between daily driving and track use , and only comes with a targa top or as a convertible. Does the GT3 even offer a targa top or convertible? (If so, I have not seen one). Second, the Z06 and GT3 are in completely different price categories. The base price of the Z06 is more in line with the Carrera. Considering price, and the fact that the Carrera is closer to the Z06 in daily driving comfort, that probably would be the better comparison. But, I can't recall the last time a car magazine compared a Corvette to another car in its price category - they almost always compare the Corvette to cars costing significantly more money (1.5X, 2X, 3X, etc.). The fact that car magazines cannot find an equivalently priced car that even comes close to the Corvette in daily driveability, performance, etc., that tells you which car really is the winner.
@adonislimes6156
@adonislimes6156 9 ай бұрын
Nobody is cross shopping a C8 Z06 and Carrera (theres the Z51 C8 for that). They serve different buyers markets. On a side note good luck getting a Z06 for anywhere close to MSRP. They are all going for $130k the second you tick any options box which puts them squarely in 911 GT3/Touring (not RS) price points to which many people are cross shopping them. The GT3 RS is obviously an outlier and theres nothing in the market that track focused short of a McLaren Senna so you can't objectively compare it to anything.
@terryforsythe8083
@terryforsythe8083 9 ай бұрын
@@adonislimes6156 There is a fallacy in your argument - Corvettes are not the only cars selling over MSRP. Markups on 911 GT3s are even higher than on Z06s, at least here in the U.S. Even used 2022 and 2023 GT3s are selling for almost $300k. Of course, you can get a Z06 for MSRP if you are patient enough to wait in the allocation line. The same probably can be said for the GT3. Moreover, most people have a budget when shopping for a new car, and do not significantly vary from that budget, certainly not enough to jump from the price of a Z06 to the price of a GT3. So, although few people may cross shop a Z06 with a Carrera, even fewer will cross shop a new Z06 with a new GT3.
@terryforsythe8083
@terryforsythe8083 9 ай бұрын
@@adonislimes6156 Also, very few people are cross shopping a Stingray with a Carrera for the same reason I noted in my previous reply. The MSRP for the base Carrera is nearly double that of the Stingray, and even a little higher than the MSRP of the Z06. Start adding in options to get a Stingray and Carerra comparably equipped, and the Carrera will be more than double the price of the Stingray. People rarely make that jump in price when buying a new car. The vast majority of people buying Carerras want a Porsche, and never give serious consideration to a Chevrolet in the first place.
@terryforsythe8083
@terryforsythe8083 9 ай бұрын
@@adonislimes6156 Lastly, since the question may come up, I did buy my C8 Stingray at MSRP and, yes, I did have to wait a while. The Bowling Green manufacturing plant now is at full production, so wait time on Stingrays is significantly shorter than when I purchased mine. It should get even shorter unless there is another strike by the United Auto Workers.
@Corvetteran88
@Corvetteran88 8 ай бұрын
I love that corvettes are always compared to much more expensive cars! The bang for the buck is what makes me love corvettes so much. I race a c5z06 that I payed $15,000 for and it is so satisfying to beat cars that cost 50-60k more.
@TheilliterateLibrarian
@TheilliterateLibrarian 10 ай бұрын
GM engineers specifically spent a ton of time working on the exhaust itself to perfect the sound. It’s designed to be center exit. The side exit euro spec sounds nothing like the USA spec
@JeepCherokeeful
@JeepCherokeeful 9 ай бұрын
Obviously they didn’t spend enough!
@TheilliterateLibrarian
@TheilliterateLibrarian 9 ай бұрын
@@JeepCherokeeful yea not the euro one cause who cares about them. All about the USA baby!!! It sounds better than a 458 over here in the usa😎
@americanrroyalty
@americanrroyalty 9 ай бұрын
@@JeepCherokeefulblame those communist in the EU
@NJ-jc9iq
@NJ-jc9iq 7 ай бұрын
​@@JeepCherokeeful You can blame the stupid Euro emission regulations for that, this sounds like a completely different car in this video, plus lower HP on the euro spec.
@300cmysrt8
@300cmysrt8 9 ай бұрын
Not sure why so many journalists complain about the steering wheel here but not others who did the same thing. La Ferrari has it. The new Ford GT has it. Nobody cared with those two. I've driven a C8 and the wheel is fine.
@Wallstreetavarice
@Wallstreetavarice 10 ай бұрын
GT3 vs Z06 would be the fair test as those are the real rivals. The GT3 RS is a much more track oriented and expensive car than the Z06.
@Pistolita221
@Pistolita221 10 ай бұрын
literally 2x the price of the Z06 even with the Z07 package.
@emj2068
@emj2068 10 ай бұрын
Agreed
@bobhenry6159
@bobhenry6159 10 ай бұрын
European reviewers always do this. Afraid to compare Apples to Apples. Why? There are PLENTY of European sports cars in the 110K pound range, but they know the Vet would embarrass them, so they find a way out.
@markw9512
@markw9512 10 ай бұрын
Porsche started shipping this to the Z06 comparos after the normal GT3 lost to it at the track.
@coreyegan6751
@coreyegan6751 10 ай бұрын
​@@markw9512it lost by 1/10th in Savage geese video... With 150hp less... Hardly a loss
@SpencerMedia
@SpencerMedia 10 ай бұрын
Keep in mind the euro spec Z06 seems to have a different exhaust than the US spec Z06 (It looks like the base C8 Exhaust). Didn’t find the sound the same at all in comparison to the US reviews.
@MichaelNiteRealEstate
@MichaelNiteRealEstate 9 ай бұрын
I knew something was a bit off!
@saltyfloridaman7163
@saltyfloridaman7163 9 ай бұрын
The euro Z06 loses 40hp
@Mr.Waffullz
@Mr.Waffullz 10 ай бұрын
Sucks everyone else doesn't get the center open exhaust like we do. Hopefully the aftermarket can fix that across the pond 😉
@magistrate7009
@magistrate7009 10 ай бұрын
Yup, literally the only reason their version sounds like shit is because of compliance to euro laws. Watch speed phenoms first time drive in C8 Z06 to get an actual estimate of how the car sounds like, its glorious.
@aab350z
@aab350z 10 ай бұрын
So funny how crazy the law and bureaucracy has gotten. No more center pipes, and it's too loud! Lol.
@Mr.Waffullz
@Mr.Waffullz 10 ай бұрын
@@aab350z yeah I thought California had the most strict emissions, but Europe said hold my beer 🍺
@brandonchism6960
@brandonchism6960 10 ай бұрын
1 second ago thanks for writing this... I was over here like why is the exhaust on the outside and not in the middle.
@Mr.Waffullz
@Mr.Waffullz 10 ай бұрын
@@brandonchism6960 yeah I think that slightly skewed his review of the Z06, because it sounds AMAZING unrestricted!
@Patrick-bu5vy
@Patrick-bu5vy 10 ай бұрын
The Z06 is an absolute steal relative to the Porsche. It is a monster on track too - every inch a true rival for the mighty GT3RS. Well done GM for building a car that has become an instant legend.
@tecumseh4095
@tecumseh4095 9 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@lovelehstuff
@lovelehstuff 9 ай бұрын
​@@tecumseh4095motorsport magazine confirm it's faster so no need to laugh
@philippeleblond9631
@philippeleblond9631 9 ай бұрын
A legend is not a ugly fat pig 3700lbs mid engine that we see everywhere! It's a american sports car. Let me choose every other mid engine than this design who was already old in 2020!
@tecumseh4095
@tecumseh4095 9 ай бұрын
@@philippeleblond9631 👏 👏
@aaronvector4750
@aaronvector4750 9 ай бұрын
@@philippeleblond9631 how many high revving naturally aspirated V8 cars are available today? Besides the Z06, I don't see anyone.
@uGotGot1618
@uGotGot1618 10 ай бұрын
Damn, those euro emissions rules really messed up the sound in the z06
@seattleblaze
@seattleblaze 8 ай бұрын
Plus a reduced HP in the Euro Corvette model.
@yimpyoi9808
@yimpyoi9808 6 күн бұрын
and lower flow exhaust also means 40 less hp
@saltyfloridaman7163
@saltyfloridaman7163 9 ай бұрын
Claims Porsche has the best engine, *forgets the Z06 has the worlds most powerful and most responsive naturally aspirated V8*
@Bimmer_Bill
@Bimmer_Bill 5 ай бұрын
Lol they have to a qualify that as “v8”. No Supercar manufacturer makes a na v8 anymore and no the corvette does not have the highest horsepower per liter of any NA production engine,,, not close
@WindyCity1992
@WindyCity1992 5 ай бұрын
​@wethomas3 Clearly said V8. Thats the record. Dont be biased
@Bimmer_Bill
@Bimmer_Bill 5 ай бұрын
@@WindyCity1992 my point is it’s hardly a record. Not one high end car manufacturer makes a NA v8. Not Porsche, not Ferrari, not Lamborghini, not bmw, not Audi, not Mercedes. The only ones are toyota, Dodge, Chevy, and ford. So lol it’s not impressive!
@brianhimmelman420
@brianhimmelman420 5 ай бұрын
hee haw
@WindyCity1992
@WindyCity1992 5 ай бұрын
​@wethomas3 Doesnt matter who does what When it was being done nobody Questioned the competition did they?? Yall aren't good at hiding the bias lol
@relaxing_white_noises_by_j1980
@relaxing_white_noises_by_j1980 10 ай бұрын
Here in the states, Z06 Corvettes have a center-mounted exhaust. It's unfortunate that the cars produced for overseas markets have the same exhaust position as the Stingrays.
@realdeal7188
@realdeal7188 9 ай бұрын
Yea its due to euro decibal restrictions the exhaust had to be modified for export but still the Z06 is an amazing car to say the least.
@relaxing_white_noises_by_j1980
@relaxing_white_noises_by_j1980 9 ай бұрын
@@realdeal7188 I definitely agree 👍🏾
@Wrigy3
@Wrigy3 9 ай бұрын
One small bit being forgotten here... Its that you cant get a GT3RS for under 350k USD...
@nuniday3675
@nuniday3675 8 ай бұрын
i just got one for 297k
@Epsonblade
@Epsonblade 8 ай бұрын
Does that mean I can have a Z06 in two different colors in my garage. One for rain and one for shine...These can be picked up state side for around $125 with a few options.
@billymays7210
@billymays7210 8 ай бұрын
@@Epsonblade No you can't. They are going for at or over $200k.
@Epsonblade
@Epsonblade 8 ай бұрын
@@billymays7210 I don't pay dealer mark up, MY DAD OWNS 7 DEALERSHIPS IN FLORIDA... SO YEAH, YEAH I CAN.
@billymays7210
@billymays7210 8 ай бұрын
@@Epsonblade 1) You said “these can be picked up for $125k” not “I can get these for MSRP because…” 2) HAHAHAHAHAHAHA @ MY DADDY OWNS DEALERSHIPS SO I CAN 😂😂😂 PRICELESS! Thank you for the meme! 3) My daddy can beat up your daddy! 😘😘😘
@latroyrobinson
@latroyrobinson 9 ай бұрын
If you're interested in seeing a real world head to head on track review, check out Savagegeese Z06 vs GT3 track test. Real race car driver supported by each manufacturer's support teams (test starts aprox 26min in / surprisingresult). Although that Porche is SWEET, for the money the Zo6 is an easy choice to make.
@rondail5675
@rondail5675 8 ай бұрын
Exactly Correct!!
@Extra-dg7uv
@Extra-dg7uv 8 ай бұрын
That was the standard GT3. This is the RS. In Hagerty's test, the GT3 RS was faster than the Z06 around Willow Springs.
@dash-ryan
@dash-ryan 10 ай бұрын
The Corvette is an astonishing accomplishment to this day, because it's built by a mass production car company. Porsche is dedicated to building sports cars and couldn't pull this off without selling SUVs with VW money. For GM, a general-purpose car builder, to build a flat-plane V8 super car is as astounding as Honda building the NSX, and perhaps more so because GM has been doing it non-stop for 70 years! It's just as long a legacy as Porsche.
@rkoon57
@rkoon57 10 ай бұрын
Absolutely agree; well stated.
@TylerSmithMusic1
@TylerSmithMusic1 7 ай бұрын
And pay there workers criminal wages…
@dash-ryan
@dash-ryan 7 ай бұрын
@@TylerSmithMusic1 Although I understand, GM has been teetering on bankruptcy for decades now with government bail outs and such. Unless we all are willing to pay Porsche money for GM product, I'm not sure what the answer is.
@TylerSmithMusic1
@TylerSmithMusic1 7 ай бұрын
@@dash-ryan which were paid for by American tax dollars. We save the company, and get charged over price for every vehicle as they make record profits and stock buyback? Porsche is a specialty company I got that. But mass production is only impressive if you take out the fact that the people who create the vehicles you love, are worked like 2nd class citizens
@dash-ryan
@dash-ryan 7 ай бұрын
@@TylerSmithMusic1 Just wait until the market is flooded with inexpensive Chinese EVs. They will also turn huge profits because their employees are worked like 3rd class citizens, at best. My point is that although you make a good point and all employees should be given fair wages and good work conditions, how do compete in a global economy with product made for far less with cheap and inhuman labor? My only thought is for all people to change their buying habits in favor of supporting your local economy. Walmart is a perfect example of how people who don't like the way Walmart shuts down the local mom-and-pop operations when they show up, but is that Walmart's fault or the community's fault for not supporting local business? How do you convince people to take the higher road in their buying habits, when they themselves need a price break to survive? You're right, GM needs to treat it's employees better, but you also have a responsibility then to support GM with your buying dollars.
@TheStallion234
@TheStallion234 9 ай бұрын
I mean, to each his own, but I've heard that Z06 engine, and I frankly have no idea what he's talking about. This video did it no justice, but it sounds glorious. Also, didn't realize this immediately, but the entire exhaust setup in the euro-spec car is completely different than US Z06. In the States, the Z06 has 4 central exhaust tips. I wonder if that's due to European noise regulations, and if that's the case, what a shame.
@TheStallion234
@TheStallion234 9 ай бұрын
@@ernestkeller186 Because a British reviewer will never give an American car the credit it deserves
@camonly849
@camonly849 9 ай бұрын
Porsche is amazing, no doubt but I could never spend twice as much for 1 or 2 seconds slower on a track. You'll never notice.
@nsu300zx
@nsu300zx 10 ай бұрын
With that price difference, you can fix whatever is wrong with the Z06. I prefer the 'vette.
@papa_pt
@papa_pt 10 ай бұрын
Also buy a second car lol
@dallasstang2818
@dallasstang2818 8 ай бұрын
I keep imagining Mr. Ed everytime this guy talks lol
@zTheBigFishz
@zTheBigFishz 10 ай бұрын
This is a ridiculous comparison likely meant to minimize the Vette.
@zTheBigFishz
@zTheBigFishz 10 ай бұрын
@@ernestkeller186 GT3 vs Z06 is a natural comparo, US spec for both cars. Not the RS with as you mention EU spec.
@zTheBigFishz
@zTheBigFishz 10 ай бұрын
@@ernestkeller186 I'm agreeing with you...read my post again. GT3 vs Z06 in the US is fair. GT3RS vs Z06 in EU is not fair.
@zTheBigFishz
@zTheBigFishz 10 ай бұрын
@@ernestkeller186 no problemo
@geoffclarke3796
@geoffclarke3796 10 ай бұрын
The GT3RS get my vote but the Z06 is a brilliant car too, probably the best car America has ever produced.
@YusufSayed-px2xy
@YusufSayed-px2xy 10 ай бұрын
US made plenty of great cars other than the Z06 like the Chevy Camaro ZL1 1LE, 2016 Dodge Viper ACR, 2020 Shelby GT509 carbon fiber track package, C7 ZR1, and 2022 Cadillac CT5 V blackwing.
@Pistolita221
@Pistolita221 10 ай бұрын
@@YusufSayed-px2xy Don't forget the Ford GT, all 3 versions are trading pretty well.
@tracewaybos
@tracewaybos 10 ай бұрын
Nope - that honor still belongs to the Plymouth Voyager with wood grain trim.
@norwegianblue2017
@norwegianblue2017 10 ай бұрын
Now remember that this will be the next to slowest C8 Corvette of the five trims that will eventually be made available. Just imagine this car with twin turbos around 1000hp, AWD, hybrid and more carbon fiber.
@MrRoyck10
@MrRoyck10 10 ай бұрын
@akhoustonyou listed all the American barges 😂
@KD-cx6yi
@KD-cx6yi 8 ай бұрын
In what world are these two cars cost comparable? I just went on Autotrader and the GT3 RS is going for over $400 grand, and the ZO6 for less than $200K. Not only that, watch Harry's Garage review and you'll get an ASTONISHINGLY differently viewpoint of the GT3 on British roads. Hmmm, I wonder how there could be such a strong disparity in opinions?
@danziger69
@danziger69 9 ай бұрын
The Vette is better looking, sounds better even with the hokey Euro exhaust, performs just as well, is way more livable and half the price. You can keep the Porsche...
@davidnicholson6680
@davidnicholson6680 10 ай бұрын
Did I miss something or was the gigantic price difference between these two cars barely mentioned? Also, Z06 production is just ramping up and the car should be easier to get soon... but almost no one will ever be able to actually buy a GT3RS.
@bensam3136
@bensam3136 10 ай бұрын
literally bro and they always down play the z06 as if it’s not half the price and beats the porsches on tracks🤣🤣
@slats1987
@slats1987 10 ай бұрын
Price difference....with import costs to the UK they'd be a similar price and given this is a UK review...................the C8 is going for between £100k-£140k. Which converting us $120k-$160k US.
@Cane1992
@Cane1992 10 ай бұрын
​@@slats1987 The Porsche starts at $241,000 😮😮😮
@howarddavies136
@howarddavies136 10 ай бұрын
​@Cane1992 plus the cost for four other Porsches you'll have to buy first before you can get on the list!
@papa_pt
@papa_pt 10 ай бұрын
well it's a euro review. That's why 😂
@Leo_Vasileio
@Leo_Vasileio 10 ай бұрын
British reviewers by default will downplay the flaws of Ferrari and other manufacturers like they don’t exist but when it comes to the Corvette they always point out flaws that they make seem to be complete deal breakers or not good enough. Very bias in my opinion.
@Leo_Vasileio
@Leo_Vasileio 10 ай бұрын
@@ernestkeller186 British car reviewers are becoming like business class reviewers, never mind all the effort and engineering that it takes to deliver the product because at the end it comes down to how dry the steak was. Absolutely silly
@coreyegan6751
@coreyegan6751 10 ай бұрын
It's literally a Chevy vs a porsche... you don't think the chevy will have a few more flaws and shortcomings 😂
@Leo_Vasileio
@Leo_Vasileio 10 ай бұрын
@@coreyegan6751 same could be said about Ferrari and other European brands and all their flaws, crazy thing is that they don’t even bother fixing it or making improvements because of this type of bias and arrogance, but yet British reviewers seem to completely overlook that. No one said that the corvette was perfect but in terms of a sports car that has gotten a complete transformation through quite frankly brilliant engineering in the mist of intense regulations and industry trends, Chevy has done its job on the corvette and delivered with this one here. Let’s call a spade a spade and give credit where it’s rightfully due.
@enigmatwist6548
@enigmatwist6548 10 ай бұрын
He said both cars are “absolutely brilliant” what more praise do you want? I’m sure there are plenty of American reviewers that prefer the Porsche too, none of which is to say that the Corvette isn’t a great car.
@anthonydeas2173
@anthonydeas2173 10 ай бұрын
He's saying what he sees and experienced. Roads here in UK are pretty shitty most of the time and if the Porsche deals with them better than the Corvette that's his experience. If it was an American reviewer driving the same cars on American roads the result may have been different. He said both cars were excellent, but the 911 dealt with our roads better...
@Tavarish21
@Tavarish21 10 ай бұрын
The us spec with the center exhausts makes it a bit more unique.
@scottfowler8558
@scottfowler8558 10 ай бұрын
The Z06 for Europe doesn't have the quad center exhaust??? That's too bad. ☹
@daniels3899
@daniels3899 10 ай бұрын
wish they did the quad center exhaust on the z06 in europe too. Also the car sounds more muted in Euro spec how sad
@aab350z
@aab350z 10 ай бұрын
I'm guessing different regulations just to legalize it there? Sad they don't get the same car. Kinda reminds of 30 years ago, when they ruined Lambo's with EPA stuff just to be able to sell them in America.
@davidsean290
@davidsean290 9 ай бұрын
Look I own a 992 Carrera T but to compare a Z06 to a GT3 RS and glaze over the price differences is ridiculous!
@mattfrench884
@mattfrench884 8 ай бұрын
Great SCENERIES and great video. I’m not sure what mode your in,but the exhaust sounds like it’s in tour mode. Really quite! I’ve watched about every C8 Z06 video out there. And I’ve owned my own for 3 months now. And it’s way louder in the cockpit then it sounds here. And out side as well. Cheers
@johnnyboy1586
@johnnyboy1586 8 ай бұрын
It will be interesting to see how the vett preforms in long term reliability ,I hope it does well,I've seen a a couple in nz on the road and it looks amazing 😊
@MegaChasevideos
@MegaChasevideos 10 ай бұрын
Only reason the Z06 sounds bad is because it has a euro spec exhaust that ruins the sound. The US one is way louder
@deek4412
@deek4412 9 ай бұрын
It was very amusing to see this guy struggle finding weak excuses to place the Porsche ahead of the Corvette....all any sensible person can say is at less than HALF the price...the Corvette is an unbelievable example of American ingenuity...kudos GM! Oh, and one more thing..put both on a race course and see what happens...ha ha ha
@unclebob4964
@unclebob4964 8 ай бұрын
Put them both on a race course and see what happens ? OK….. Let’s start with Le Mans…..Porsche has won it more times than ANY OTHER manufacturer on the PLANET !!! Chevrolet ISN’T EVEN IN THE TOP 12 !!! Ha Ha Ha yourself……BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA………
@deek4412
@deek4412 8 ай бұрын
Where is Porsche in Indy racing....Chevrolet has won it more than any other manufacturer on the planet...Porsche is no where to be found...can't cut it....ha ha ha ROFLMAO@@unclebob4964
@deek4412
@deek4412 8 ай бұрын
Yeah lets start with Le Mans...this year 8 Porsches competed against just one C8 Corvette and the Corvette took the checkered flag....8 to 1 still couldn't win...ha ha ha @@unclebob4964
@unclebob4964
@unclebob4964 8 ай бұрын
@@deek4412 You are kidding, of course ! ? Thought this was about real cars you can buy and drive. Send me a photo of your “Indy” car cruising down Main Street. If your really wanting to use such a moronic argument….ok. Honda and Ilmor Engineering make ENGINES for identical Indy car chassis. THATS IT. And even then, they struggle to run for 4 hours on an 4 turn circuit ! Porsche runs TWENTY FOUR (24) HOURS on an actual ROAD COURSE ! ( are you starting to catch on ? ) In the real world, Porsche has Chevrolet for breakfast……ha ha ha….KMBFAYSF.
@ricardopralon4763
@ricardopralon4763 9 ай бұрын
It's very predicable that the much more expensive GT3 RS won the test, but I think it´s typically a conclusion of european biased and unfair test: first because based on price, the Z06 is also cheaper than the ordinary GT3 , the 911 that it should be compared, and in the pure performances the Z06 probably could humiliate both 911 GT3s in the most of numbers. In my opinion this Corvette CR8 Z06 is to European sports cars what the P-51 Mustang was to German fighters in the middle of last World War, a real paradigm breakdown. The P-51 had a american version of English Merlin engine , this Corvette a american copy of of a Ferrari engine. In general this GM's car has a superior engineering based on better fundamentals at a very competitive cost while the 911 is attached in its tradition and historical relevance in the sport cars world to justify its price. The fact that in the track, the Corvette Gt Am version have beaten 911 Gt am (RSR with a central engine) version so easily in the last Le Mans.
@jpslayermayor9293
@jpslayermayor9293 9 ай бұрын
And yet a raced prep version of this very car beat Porsche at Le Mans by a large margin. Euro reviewers twist themselves in knots attempting somehow detract from the car to the point where they contradict each other or test convertible version head to head with its lower spec tires, suspension tune, weight etc. If this exact car were somehow coming from a new Brit marque and priced the same as the old Euros it would be celebrated as a revelation and certainly win the comparison
@SmokDiplodoq
@SmokDiplodoq 9 ай бұрын
I belive this is cynical from the so called press. That is because they seat neck deep in the ass of mighty makers like VAG striving for their ever recurring cars and events and advertising, while they gain nothing from erratic american performance cars presence and market share. @@jpslayermayor9293
@Steven-re3id
@Steven-re3id 8 ай бұрын
​@@jpslayermayor9293the race-prepared version of the 911 crushed the Corvette 5 years in a row
@Steven-re3id
@Steven-re3id 8 ай бұрын
It is not so difficult to accept that regardless of the price, the 911 gt3/rs was always superior to the z06 of each generation including this one, and well, the Corvette here in Europe and the rest of the world costs the same or more than a 911 and you talk about the Europeans are biased when literally all their magazines like motor trend or car and driver are completely biased with foreign cars or I remind you of the c7 zr1 beating the 911 gt2 in the vir when the 911 gt2 practically destroys the Corvette on any track in the rest of the world , or comparing the lap of the c8 z06 in the VIR with a professional driver against the lap of the 992 gt3 and an amateur driver, the numbers do not lie and the 911 was always superior and the only excuse they had was the price but now with the Corvette costing the same as a Porsche, they no longer have excuses and if we talk about lemans, the 911 crushed the Corvette in the last 5 years
@ricardopralon4763
@ricardopralon4763 8 ай бұрын
@@Steven-re3id Man you a masterpiece of Porsche fanboy ... The last five GT Am Pro victories in Le Mans before 2023 were 2 from Ferrari, 2 from Aston Martin ( the Brand that won more GT class races in Le Mans in this century) and only 1 from Porsche, and this year Corvette won very easily . By the way the last year that Porsche won (2020) there was no Corvette in the race neither CR8 or CR7 and the car Porsche uses in Le Mans is the RSR , a "especial" 911 with a CENTRAL ENGINE. No that car is not a real 911 with rear engine as RS GT3 or 911 R . Porsche RS GT2 was another model with turbos and it is no more in production and had almost twice the price of GT3 RS... CR8 is not the front engined CR7.... is a totally different car with CENTRAL ENGINE as RSR that Porsche use in competition ( Can you tell me why) . In fact it is a Ferrari copy with more cm3 in the engine. The trick that GT3 RS uses to be slight faster in track is its DRS, but its is only a aero trick copied from F1 that aftermarked tunners can adapt in any car and it can be very dangerous if used in the regular roads.
@bumpinjeep
@bumpinjeep 10 ай бұрын
ATTENTION The euro spec Z06 (with the side exhausts) have a significant power and even sound deficit compared to US spec cars. I would recommend driving a US model as you get an entirely different experience.
@abcdLeeXY
@abcdLeeXY 10 ай бұрын
Meant for the race track but most will babysit in the garage or drive it to tea parties
@_VelociDad
@_VelociDad 9 ай бұрын
The C8Z06 with £90k in the trunk should help make your decision.
@mattfrench884
@mattfrench884 8 ай бұрын
I’m always surprised when people talk negatively about the steering wheel on the Zeke Zo6 it’s identical to a laFerrari wheel 😮
@Sideways_Singh
@Sideways_Singh 10 ай бұрын
i was super excited then i seen the rs letters and was slightly less excited, people who buy the this rs are 90% just show offs who dont know anything about cars or driving n just go with the hype, or people obsessed with lap times n forget to enjoy driving, but then so are most gt3 owners 😂, the gt3 is the fun n sexy one, n the real competitor to the z06
@schwabit989
@schwabit989 8 ай бұрын
Price for price, the Corvette is hard to beat.
@Marvelous0071
@Marvelous0071 9 ай бұрын
Where was the Ford GT when people started talking about the greatest car to come out of America and then there is the ACR Viper... The Z06 is not the greatest American car. Its great value in performance
@Bmontepeque11
@Bmontepeque11 10 ай бұрын
Well, yes, Porsche as we know is just mechanical perfection 🥰 but to be fair the Corvette is amazing for it's price! :)
@kleinbottled79
@kleinbottled79 10 ай бұрын
Fairly typical of a stock Corvette to be conservative in setup and alignment. I bet once the track guys start tuning these Z06's they will really come alive. (Not to say I'm assuming it will suddenly be better than the RS, I'm not.
@juliusten6225
@juliusten6225 10 ай бұрын
I take the Corvette between the two of them. No question.
@minigiant8998
@minigiant8998 10 ай бұрын
@@juliusten6225 ewww
@MrSchn3ll
@MrSchn3ll 10 ай бұрын
Only one of them will be a classic and sold above sticker price potentially for 20+ years. The other is going to be $70k someday and will be modded with Pep Boys junk. Tough call...
@papa_pt
@papa_pt 10 ай бұрын
​@@MrSchn3llsure thing dummie. Yes sir move on, nothing special about this Z06 engine 😂
@maxj.gutsmiedl796
@maxj.gutsmiedl796 10 ай бұрын
Car Magazine has the most illogical pairings of cars and then makes the judgment based on random facts. There is no way that people are cross-shopping these two cars. First off, unless you have a garage full of Porsches, there is no way you can get in line to buy a new GT3 RS. Plus, let's load some luggage into each car. The GT3 RS is a track day monster, and the Z06 is simply not that.
@yagamikiralight8805
@yagamikiralight8805 10 ай бұрын
People might not cross shop them but both are track toys so....
@joe718gt4
@joe718gt4 10 ай бұрын
Z06 is a track car once you have the Z06 package, just not at the level the GT3 RS is. Edit: meant Z07
@CARmagazineTV
@CARmagazineTV 10 ай бұрын
One man’s illogical is another man’s thought-provoking! ;)
@yagamikiralight8805
@yagamikiralight8805 10 ай бұрын
@@CARmagazineTV Based
@iluvcakes19
@iluvcakes19 10 ай бұрын
​@@CARmagazineTV😂😂
@Evergreen319
@Evergreen319 10 ай бұрын
Isnt GT3RS almost twice expensive than Z06? Actual cost not MSRP.
@Pistolita221
@Pistolita221 10 ай бұрын
Yes, literally 2x the price, I think you can max out with options close to 400k before dealer markup, while the vette never even touches 190k before dealer mark up. Base z06 is 120kish, base GT3RS is 299,999.99.
@justarandomcarguy
@justarandomcarguy 10 ай бұрын
This is a very biased video. GT3RS costs over twice as much as the Z06. It has no frunk or trunk. It has a stiff ride that you will not be able enjoy driving around town. Does not have a targa roof. I am a bit puzzled. Its like taking ACR Viper Extreme and comparing it with 911 Carrera S. GT3RS does one thing only, Z06 does so many and of those many, it does tracking very well. Recent track comparison between GT3RS and Z06 was shockingly close. Check out Randy’s driving of both cars.
@mr.jawsome1234
@mr.jawsome1234 9 ай бұрын
This is a very biased comment, as the z06 is not a super car. Yet .. it’s a very overpriced American sports car. It’s not all that. It claims 0-60 in 2.6 seconds yet everyone I have seen launch it, even owners I know can only manage 3.4 seconds and higher, due to the wheels trying not to slip and manage all the power. My 2024 M3 CS will cook this thing.
@jameswillard1
@jameswillard1 10 ай бұрын
Nice review guys!
@CARmagazineTV
@CARmagazineTV 10 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@gen1c8rs88
@gen1c8rs88 10 ай бұрын
@@CARmagazineTV Should have mentioned that the Z06 in Europe has a less communicative exhaust system, instead of stating the Z06's engine is to blame.
@rwilson4073
@rwilson4073 9 ай бұрын
That corner exhaust in the euro-spec Z06 is really a shame because it loses all that character that you get from the center exit they spent a whole extra year developing during the pandemic. Honestly it really doesn't even sound close, so I'm wondering if the z06 was in the right exhaust mode. It's their first year and first generation trying all this out though, so I'm sure once the complaints start rolling in they'll hopefully make some improvements to the next generation (particularly with feedback from the wheel and pedals).
@mbukukanyau
@mbukukanyau 8 ай бұрын
The EU is eating their bacon.
@billshoe22191
@billshoe22191 10 ай бұрын
Very curious how much sound the Z06 loses due to emission regulation (particulate filter) compared to the US version. Would have loved to hear more of the engine in the video
@saltyfloridaman7163
@saltyfloridaman7163 9 ай бұрын
It loses 40hp, and loses 18db
@saltyfloridaman7163
@saltyfloridaman7163 9 ай бұрын
@robertm.3520 they never care, they just want to give American cars their typical biased bullshit. Bet he failed to mention the fact that the euro spec Z06 also beat the GT3 RS at Magny Cours, a slow tight corner track with short straights designed to challenge braking and mechanical grip while benefitting high downforce cars on 4 turns, with a massive high speed corner that should give the GT3 RS a massive advantage over other cars since it's got nearly 900lbs more downforce than the Z06
@j7b890
@j7b890 9 ай бұрын
​@@saltyfloridaman7163magny cours CLUB has nothing to do with the gp track.... its a test circuit for driving classes. And the review was made by the magazine owner who is not a pro driver at all. Maybe the actual Magny Cours track laptimes with Conti the pro driver from the same magazine will follow but as of now those times have zero value. If you would eventually read the web page you would know that the magazine owner and driver by his own admission states he isnt interested in getting the best laptime but just to get a feel for the car. In Italy in Vairano the z06 with cup 2r lost against a standard gt3 and sorry but 4ruote isnt a german magazine.
@nassermohd2317
@nassermohd2317 10 ай бұрын
wait till zr1 come
@gregparrott
@gregparrott 8 ай бұрын
Nice test! I'd be disappointed with Porsche if this new 'Vette could beat it within its first year or so of release. It sounds like the 'Vette is faster at 0-60, and perhaps other straight line metrics, like 0-100 and quarter mile. But tight, twisty roads are the Porsche's domain. Has the latest Z06 been tested on Germany's home turf - Nürburgring? If yes, how did it faire in its first year?
@markw9512
@markw9512 7 ай бұрын
Exactly! Just look at how badly the porch is in this video, including GT3s, beat up on this Z06 in the twisties of VIR! It’s incredible, he never stood a chance! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/l9ypobOWnJavcYk.htmlfeature=shared
@BobGrosse
@BobGrosse 9 ай бұрын
Not much of a test to determine a winner? Why not put them both on a track to see what they're really capable of, and you may have a different opinion!
@Extra-dg7uv
@Extra-dg7uv 8 ай бұрын
The GT3 RS was faster around Willow Springs in Hagerty's test.
@maciejswiercz9737
@maciejswiercz9737 6 ай бұрын
I guess if they were comparing bargains the vette would be the winner . They’re comparing apples to oranges!!!
@mbukukanyau
@mbukukanyau 8 ай бұрын
Always disappointed how European reviewers misunderstand the Corvette. The Z-06 is first and foremost a daily driver. It has all the creature comforts of your E Class. If Chevrolet Corvette were to make a track first, road car second, it would be a Z/28. Not even a ZR1 is a track car first.
@garynichols9965
@garynichols9965 8 ай бұрын
What kind of Z06 has exhaust pipes on each side and not on the center
@markw9512
@markw9512 9 ай бұрын
Excellent post. Regarding the differential between the 992 RS and the 991.2 RS: the comparison test which included the 992 was run at nearly freezing temperatures, which slowed all three of the cars in it down quite a bit.
@moneyshift8190
@moneyshift8190 10 ай бұрын
Why compare the z06 to the GT3RS?! The GT4RS would have been a better comparo. Or the GT3.
@cobrajeff96
@cobrajeff96 9 ай бұрын
Its dangerous to drive on the wrong side of the road.
@loansbyderrick
@loansbyderrick 10 ай бұрын
“An outstanding super car that goes way beyond anything that’s come out of the states before”… Second gen Ford GT/ Mkii enters the chat…
@saltyfloridaman7163
@saltyfloridaman7163 9 ай бұрын
The Z06 ate it alive at VIR Grand Course
@RH-xs8gz
@RH-xs8gz 8 ай бұрын
Yeah. For 4X the cost of the Z06.
@emj2068
@emj2068 10 ай бұрын
Vette all day, especially for the price. Thank you Chevy for making other brands step their game up and offer better performance for the money.
@RobZelinka
@RobZelinka 8 ай бұрын
Why doesn’t Chevrolet badge the car as Zed06 in the UK? That aside, nice video on how the GedT3 compares to the Zed06
@racereview1679
@racereview1679 10 ай бұрын
its funny when car journalists reveal the sticker prices of the cars without mentioning the actual dealer cost. Here in texas, a new Z06 is $270,000 and a gt3 rs is $600,000+ with dealer markup... making both of these cars absurd propositions. You could get a McLaren 765LT or GT2RS for the price of the new gt3RS, and a 991.2 gt3 rs for the price of the new z06..... The world is upside down rn.
@markw9512
@markw9512 10 ай бұрын
The C8 was selling for insane money when it first came out, but the nice thing is they come down over time as GM doesn’t limit production to a few hundred examples. Give it another 6-8 months.
@ThomasJones02
@ThomasJones02 10 ай бұрын
This looks like it’s filmed in Bwylch Mountain as did a cruise around the Brecons last year but anyone know for sure?
@eckosimmons
@eckosimmons 9 ай бұрын
That man said the Z06 sound is “not memorable” 😂 like he doesn’t know it has basic stingray exhaust.
@jorgejefferson8251
@jorgejefferson8251 9 ай бұрын
A fairer comparison would be a regular GT3. A C-8 Corvette ZL1 would be a comparison to the GT3 RS, but Chevy hasn't made it yet.
@Pistolita221
@Pistolita221 8 ай бұрын
The Zr1 will be a competitor to the Porsche gt3rs and then Corvette is releasing a turbo S competitor with a hybrid system, similar to the holy Trinity of Yore.
@squishy1127
@squishy1127 9 ай бұрын
Why does the Z06 have the standard C8 exhaust on it?
@SirReddit18
@SirReddit18 8 ай бұрын
The US spec exhaust changes the Z06 completely😭😭
@mojojojo_BB
@mojojojo_BB 10 ай бұрын
Great job comparing cars that are neither in the same category nor price range! 🙄
@MitchellPhillips
@MitchellPhillips 8 ай бұрын
I knew what the comments would be before I went to add my own. Most bias Z06 video yet. Not anywhere near a fair comparison due to price but the reviewer was also just generally unfair. That 5.5 V8 is amazing and hes complaining about it? I havent heard anyother reviewers complain about power delivery our sound. Only this propagandist. Guy is out to lunch.
@epi2045
@epi2045 8 ай бұрын
The price delta between the GT3 and Z06 is approximately a Z06. Hmmm.
@razrramon2256
@razrramon2256 9 ай бұрын
Them toggles on the steering like tryna change traction and brake balance on gran truismo 7 MID LAP And CRASH
@zangli4525
@zangli4525 7 ай бұрын
Z06 should be compared to GT3: they are road cars that can be taken to the tracks on weekends... GT3-RS is a race car that can be driven on the roads, so it's not in the same league, not to mention the huge price for the RS.
@anotae
@anotae 10 ай бұрын
Gt3 RS? Not fair...
@joetacchino4470
@joetacchino4470 9 ай бұрын
Why does this Z06 car have corner exit exhausts? OPF’s make it necessary?
@kevinnguyen9138
@kevinnguyen9138 10 ай бұрын
I just noticed the zo6 doesnt have the quad exhausts in the middle but i stead on both sides of the rear,it must be à modification ofsomesort from the dealership
@saltyfloridaman7163
@saltyfloridaman7163 9 ай бұрын
That's the Euro spec exhaust. It lowers the power down to 630hp instead of 670hp, and gains another 50lbs of weight due to the heavier exhaust equipped with a particulate filter for stricter emissions
@davlphs
@davlphs 10 ай бұрын
Not one mention of price in this review. Maybe the Corvette is a little more expensive in Europe than the U.S., but I am fairly certain the GT3 is still at least 50,000 more.
@calvinhoward7462
@calvinhoward7462 10 ай бұрын
He mentioned the prices said the gt3rs is 200,000pounds and corvette is 110,000pounds. But you can’t really even touch one for that price at the moment.
@ryanjefferson6100
@ryanjefferson6100 10 ай бұрын
it was mentioned bud
@Nord_Mann
@Nord_Mann 10 ай бұрын
@ernestkeller186what, do you think he should test an illegal version of the car on UK roads? Apples for apples. This Porsche is also neutered compared to it’s predecessor
@Cane1992
@Cane1992 10 ай бұрын
Here in the States about a $100,000 difference. 😮
@marvinonstage
@marvinonstage 9 ай бұрын
Only a car reviewer would ignore $100,000 dollar difference because its never their money they are considering only their 9/10 experience
@RobinSingh-lf3iq
@RobinSingh-lf3iq 7 ай бұрын
Well done. Brilliant review.
@CARmagazineTV
@CARmagazineTV 7 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@chrlda6857
@chrlda6857 9 ай бұрын
Lol Americans complaining It's not oranges and apples Is full spec vs full spec It's not Porsche fault that the Z0Y uses cheaper materials
@briansalisbury5760
@briansalisbury5760 8 ай бұрын
For the Vette to get this much praise and to even be mentioned in the same breath as this magnificent Porche machine is amazing. Considering the price difference I am sure a Corvette engineer could make this Vette beat just about anything for that extra money.
@carguy99
@carguy99 8 ай бұрын
Finally!!...a Brit that pronounces Porsche correctly!
@cylentone
@cylentone 8 ай бұрын
The GT3 RS is a pure track car, the Z06 an all-rounder. Nice surrounding to review them both, but impossible to compare. Maybe a "normal" GT3 would have been the better choice in characteristics, not necessarily price-wise. If the focus is on winding country roads, maybe even the GT3 Touring.
@billymays7210
@billymays7210 8 ай бұрын
Well said. Unlike most of the fanboyz commenting from both sides.
@billymays7210
@billymays7210 5 ай бұрын
@@brianhimmelman420 AWD turbo with a back seat… you’re gonna get a TON of views with that video 😂
@billymays7210
@billymays7210 5 ай бұрын
@@brianhimmelman420 Um, I didn’t…. I was agreeing with the OP, ya know, the one you replied to? 😂 And that’s the best Chevy could do with their steering and an NA motor… the ZR1 will be faster, but will probably be even more “numb” once they bolt on the turbos… that’s why people pay more $ for a Porsche, the way it feels vs the raw numbers. Are you being sarcastic comparing a turbo AWD sporty GT with a back seat to an NA 2 seat 2WD sports car “tuned for the track”?
@SRosen95
@SRosen95 10 ай бұрын
failing to mention that the gt3rs is almost twice the price feels like a slight misstep
@slats1987
@slats1987 10 ай бұрын
It's about the same price after import costs. The base c8 in the UK is going for between $120k-160k, plus everyone knows about the US and it's dealership "markup"
@amospizzey1
@amospizzey1 10 ай бұрын
0 to 100 on the RS must be lower then 10sec ?
@kennethalbert4653
@kennethalbert4653 8 ай бұрын
Describing that as "analog" is throwing a brick through the Overton Window !
@corystansbury
@corystansbury 8 ай бұрын
Those GPFs sure do suck all the life (and 40 HP) from the Z06. Very sad :(
@grizzly3133
@grizzly3133 8 ай бұрын
Hats off for chevy moving ahead...its good no matter what they do it Will never be italian or that hyper category..Great car
@nickhall3000
@nickhall3000 10 ай бұрын
What road was this filmed on please?
@Aceimus1066
@Aceimus1066 9 ай бұрын
Bwlch Mountain, Wales
@N4CR5
@N4CR5 10 ай бұрын
Wider tyres track more on the road, like motorbikes, that happens in any car with wide wheels.
@Nord_Mann
@Nord_Mann 10 ай бұрын
Too much for the road? Yes they are. Both. At least the Corvette has a boot and can take the needed overnight luggage for you and your sweetheart.
@edouble0325
@edouble0325 8 ай бұрын
It’s a shame the particulate filter mutes the z06 LT6 engine
@RSADYNAMICS
@RSADYNAMICS 10 ай бұрын
Great work Jetro
@PixelVogue
@PixelVogue 10 ай бұрын
who
@RSADYNAMICS
@RSADYNAMICS 10 ай бұрын
@@PixelVogue Jethro Bodington
@PixelVogue
@PixelVogue 10 ай бұрын
@@RSADYNAMICS what has he got to do with the video?
@RSADYNAMICS
@RSADYNAMICS 10 ай бұрын
@@PixelVogue why you hating for ?
@PixelVogue
@PixelVogue 10 ай бұрын
@@RSADYNAMICS no hate, just telling you friend Jetro isn't here
@fqeagles21
@fqeagles21 10 ай бұрын
Can you review the SF90XX when released
@CARmagazineTV
@CARmagazineTV 10 ай бұрын
Hopefully, yes!
@mm6705
@mm6705 8 ай бұрын
My otherwise stock 2001 Miata with sticky tires and lightweight rims was too much for the road. Performance cars in general are just far far beyond the realm of safety and traffic laws, its really a huge waste of money unless you do track days.
@jesseteague2975
@jesseteague2975 8 ай бұрын
The zr1 is coming its been a supercar
@zhuoyuanli758
@zhuoyuanli758 8 ай бұрын
Another one to make the front end stiffer in order to kill the under steer😂
@tommyhenriquezkayakangler8465
@tommyhenriquezkayakangler8465 8 ай бұрын
Corvette needs at least 40 years of proven track excellence to be in same sentence with Porsche 😂😂😂
@markw9512
@markw9512 8 ай бұрын
It’s been racing since before the 911 existed. Geez, do some research
@tommyhenriquezkayakangler8465
@tommyhenriquezkayakangler8465 8 ай бұрын
@@markw9512 first Porsche ever made was in 1948. First Corvette ever made was in 1953. The key word for you is “proven” 40 years of PROVEN track excellence. Again, you can’t put corvette and Porsche in the same sentence.
@markw9512
@markw9512 8 ай бұрын
@@tommyhenriquezkayakangler8465 sure you can. Corvette just beat Porsche at LeMans and was dominating them last year, in the lead near the finish when a Ferrari teammate sideswiped the leading C8.R into the wall, giving the win to Porsche. In 2021 the C8.R came in 2nd to Ferrari and was far ahead of the Porsche GT3. In the last 25 years, Corvette Racing record includes 9 Le Mans 24-hour class wins, 30 IMSA victories, and 82 wins in the American Le Mans Series. Since the C8.R came out they’ve been in the top of their class, and the Corvette GT3 for 2024 is expected to continue their excellent record. Also, they were very active in racing in the 1960s, again, before the Porsche 911 came out. They were duking it out with Shelby cobras before the 9/11 got introduced in 1965. And to say that they cannot be mentioned in the same sentence as Porsche, when in reality in every single track comparison between the C8 Z06 and the GT3, the C8 Z06 has beaten it by a good margin, multiple seconds on longer higher speed tracks, is a joke. You are totally ignorant of the facts on the track. Furthermore, The base C8 with Z 51 package turned a faster lap than, both the Carrera S and the GT4 at Nuremberg Ring, despite the GT4 being 400 pounds lighter and having cup to our tires to the Corvette’s PS4s. So you can throw the badge up and everybody’s face all you like, but the fact is, Corvette has your number. The other thing is, number one, you cannot just walk in off the street and buy one of those cars, and number two, even if you have done enough business with Porsche to get a slot, you can’t buy a GT3 or GT3 RS for anything close to it sticker, so you’re looking at $400,000 for the RS on the open market. Finally, since you need an education on who is doing what to whom in actual track comparisons, here’s a compilation I’ve put together of the new C8 Stingray and Z06 versus Porsche and other competitors. For some thing that should not be mentioned in the same sentence damn, it sure is doing a fine job of kicking their asses. Hell, here’s a great video of a C6 Z06 kicking the crap out of a GT3 Manthay Racing at Nurburgring. Within 30 seconds the Porsche is history. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jZh4oa-TvdG1l30.htmlsi=lXc7Iy99BXn6dafu ******** Base C8 vs Porsche ******** Nurburgring Lap Times: Base Corvette C8: 7:29.9 Porsche Carrera S: 7:30.41 Porsche GT4: 7:32.0 EVO Magazine’s C8 hot lap at Anglissy, Steve Sutcliff’s hot lap. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/g9Wca6R4m7yohXU.html Times: Porsche Turbo 991.2 : 1:15.2 Corvette C8: 1:15.6 Porsche 992 Carrera S: 1:16.0 Road & Track, Grattan: Base Corvette C8: 1:26.4 Porsche GT4: 1:26.5 Note that GT4s are ~425 lbs (193kg) lighter than C8s *and* have *much* grippier tires, Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2rs specifically. ******** Z06 vs Porsche GT3 and others ******** Car & Driver Lightning Lap 2023: Lamborghini Huracan Tecnica: 2:43.9 Porsche GT4RS: 2:40.5 Corvette Z06: 2:38.6 From past few Lightning Laps, same track: 2022 Porsche GT3: 2:40.6 2019 Porsche GT3RS: 2:41.6 2021 Porsche Turbo S: 2:42.5 The six fastest cars from all of Car & Driver’s Lightning Lap comparisons: 2019 McLaren Senna: 2:34.9 2021 Mercedes AMG-GT Black Series: 2:37.0 2018 Porsche GT2RS Weissach: 2:37.8 2021 McLaren 765LT: 2:38.4 2023 Corvette Z06: 2:38.6 2019 Corvette ZR1: 2:39.5 Road & Track Performance Car of the Year, 2023: Lamborghini Huracan Tecnica: 1:23.1 Porsche GT4RS: 1:22.7 Corvette Z06: 1:20.6 Savagegeese same day/same driver/same track comparison of Z06 w/Z07 vs GT3. Corvette and GT3 manufacturer teams on hand making sure both vehicles’ setups were optimal: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/sLuhd66LqszDdnU.html Times: Z06: 1:27.240 GT3: 1:27.329 Tight, short track. Pro driver said GT3 would definitely lose advantage on longer tracks and Z06’s lead would grow on them. Autobild Sportscars Supertest Lausitzring lap times: AMG GT Black Series: 1’25”23 Porsche 911 GT2 RS (991): 1’25”91 Corvette Corvette Z06/Z07: 1’27”41 Lamborghini Huracan STO: 1’27”94 Lamborghini Aventador SVJ: 1’28”05 Porsche 911 Turbo S (992): 1’29”95 Porsche 911 GT3 RS (991): 1’30”60 Motorsport Magazine (chart at end of vid shown w/times): kzfaq.info/get/bejne/h5uRdKuGmdrJmYk.html McLaren Senna 1'14"93 (TrofeoR) C8 Z06 (Z07) 1'15"23 (Cup 2R) 991.2 GT2 RS 1'15"91 (Cup 2R) 992 GT3 RS 1'15"96 (Cup 2R) Ferrari 488 Pista 1'16"06 (Cup 2R) Montecello Motor Club North Course Fastest laps: AMG GT Black Series: 1’19”42 C8 Z06 (Z07): 1’20”55 911 GT3 (992): 1’21”69 Huracan STO: 1’21”9 718 Cayman GT4 RS: 1’22”70 Huracan Tecnica: 1’23”10 M4 CSL: 1’24”20 From fastest laps site: Val de Vienne lap times Rank Vehicle Time 1 Ferrari 296 GTS 1’37”70 2 C8 Z06 (Z07) 1’39”07 3 992 GT3 RS 1’41”60 4 992 GT3 1’42”80 5 M4 CSL 1’43”28 6 GT4 RS 1’44”65 C8 Z06 sets production car record at Canada's Canadian Tire Motorsport Park: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/maiKepSVycCqlmw.html Hagerty test of Z06 vs 992 M3 CSL, Jason Carissa with Randy Pobst driving. Willow Springs, high speed track with 992 GT3 RS’s active aero winning the day here, near freezing track temps. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/o6mBn6-SmJyRYJc.html Times: ZO6: 1:24.9 GT3 RS: 1:24.3
@tommyhenriquezkayakangler8465
@tommyhenriquezkayakangler8465 8 ай бұрын
@@markw9512 I’m going to say it for the 2nd time. “You can’t put Porsche and Corvette in the same sentence”.
@markw9512
@markw9512 7 ай бұрын
Wow: Tommy, look at this video where there is Porsches including GT3s just murder this poor hapless fellow in his Corvette Z06 at VIR: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/l9ypobOWnJavcYk.htmlfeature=shared Yep, I see what you mean: they shouldn’t be spoken in the same sentence 😂😂
@MarkVV045
@MarkVV045 10 ай бұрын
Jeez Are those roads NARROW ENOUGH 😂
@N4CR5
@N4CR5 10 ай бұрын
Normal in small, hilly and rural countries like this.
@Ghanshyam00000
@Ghanshyam00000 9 ай бұрын
Chevrolet Corvette z06 and porch 911 gt3 these both cars are beautiful
@mellowsid1928
@mellowsid1928 8 ай бұрын
This Z06 doesn't have the actual center exit US exhaust. THAT exhaust sounds like it was meant for the gods. THIS exhaust sounds like it belongs in the garbage. Watch other center exhaust Z06 videos and judge those for sound. Also, if this Z06 was under 500 miles it was probably in break in mode which makes it limited and slow. To me it never sounds like he gets it up past 6k rpm. After 500 miles it has a very linear power curve where as most flat plane crank engines make all their torque up high in the rpm range. He also should have talked about the driving modes. If he didn't have the Z06 in track mode then it also isn't a fair comparison. But still, the GT3 still would beat the Z06 on the track most of the time but it is pretty much only because of the weight difference, slightly stiffer suspension, and more down force. The Z06 would probably only win the 0-60mph race. But he is correct that as a street car the Z06 wins because it has way better ride height, more comfortable and adjustable/adapting magnetic suspension, way more features, a more plush interior, and better seats. It is probably a good idea to swap out those carbon wheels for steel on the street though. It is also hard not justify getting a Z06 because it is at least 50k less depending where you are in the world. If you wanted to spec a GT3 with some of the same features the Z06 has as standard it would add so much more money. Porsche likes to make options cost 3 to 4 times as much as Chevrolet.
@jerrybyrd6603
@jerrybyrd6603 10 ай бұрын
They never talk about the HUGE price difference
@wilmara24
@wilmara24 10 ай бұрын
because if they compare any european sports car for the same price the corvette will obliterate it and we can't have that can we *sarcasm. I've always felt like European auto journalists never give American cars a fair shake. This is the best performance car for the money since the nsx
@tecumseh4095
@tecumseh4095 9 ай бұрын
@@wilmara24Nope
@hasangenc2922
@hasangenc2922 9 ай бұрын
Well, sit in a 911 and sit in a Vette and you'll know where the price difference comes from.
@wilmara24
@wilmara24 9 ай бұрын
@@hasangenc2922 I don’t think you can used the old interior excuse anymore. You can argue that the interior layout is not your favorite but the 3lt package is very nice. What nobody ever talks about is how the corvette sound system absolutely smacks the gt3. Some may say that doesn’t matter but it matters to me when I’m doing long road trips.
@Steven-re3id
@Steven-re3id 8 ай бұрын
well don't expect a Porsche and a Chevy to cost the same, also in the real world the Corvette is too expensive and I have seen that in some places it costs 350k
@JulianZwemer
@JulianZwemer 10 ай бұрын
Porsche all day long 🥰🤗
@Cane1992
@Cane1992 10 ай бұрын
Over $100,000 more and quite similar to the millions of other 911s on the road. No thanks.
@philippeleblond9631
@philippeleblond9631 10 ай бұрын
@@Cane1992 How about your mass pruduction GM wanabe C8? 40000 unit per year, no thanks for a common failed design
@philippeleblond9631
@philippeleblond9631 9 ай бұрын
@@robertm.3520 Like Chris Harris said, when youre inside the C8, at least you dont see the exterior of the car lolol! They are plenty of bright people who think the C8 is not pretty... Im not fanboy of anything but GM designers where unable to make a pretty mid engine! Take a look at the new Lotus Emira, she look so beautifull ...
@philippeleblond9631
@philippeleblond9631 9 ай бұрын
@@robertm.3520 Car and driver and Motortrend already told about the weirdo design, this is sad... Huracan 2015 are so beautifull and Aventador( 2012 car ), for a 2020 mid engine car, the Chevrolet is already getting old, sad story...
@philippeleblond9631
@philippeleblond9631 9 ай бұрын
@@robertm.3520 For your sake, I saw 4 Corvette this morning, 0 Porsche ( including all the Porsche brand )
@anasevi9456
@anasevi9456 9 ай бұрын
I didn't think changing exhausts would have made such a stark degradation to the sound, but that's awful. I was expecting it to not be as good, but not shockingly worse. GM direly need to address this issue for their export cars as with the power being down.
@raymonds7492
@raymonds7492 4 ай бұрын
still sounds better than any turbo 6 though
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