Porsche Cayman VS Audi TT RS VS BMW Z4 - the road test | Fifth Gear

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4 жыл бұрын

Is the Porsche Cayman still the king of the 50 grand sports car or will a new contender steal it’s crown? Jason and Karun find out with a group test including the Audi TT RS, BMW Z4 and the Jaguar F-Type. To watch full episodes from our latest series - www.dplay.co.uk/show/fifth-gear
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@briangaughran9996
@briangaughran9996 4 жыл бұрын
So dumped the Cayman track for on road dynamics before testing it in the track? SMH.
@SmashGhost
@SmashGhost 4 жыл бұрын
That was a dumb move for sure.
@MagicAyrtonforever
@MagicAyrtonforever 4 жыл бұрын
LOL
@MrGreatness412
@MrGreatness412 4 жыл бұрын
My exact thoughts SMHT
@papaannefranku9693
@papaannefranku9693 4 жыл бұрын
Because "it’s too noisy" like there isn’t a bottom to close the exhaust valves, and it’s also the "T" which is a stripped out "purist" version for the base cayman which has less sound dampening and the sports suspension from gts......fifth gear hasn’t been shit since 2009 and tiff and Vicky we’re the only ones holding it together!
@briangaughran9996
@briangaughran9996 4 жыл бұрын
ZenZory Overload My point remains. They picked a track car. There are many other cayman to select. This seems to have built in bias. Like: let’s pick the best convertible and include a hardtop in a comparison test. S. M. H.
@golfbuddy1969
@golfbuddy1969 4 жыл бұрын
Ridiculous. To figure out the best “all rounder”, let’s get rid of the best track car, the Porsche, and then let’s test the other two on the track?!
@nctuned
@nctuned 4 жыл бұрын
Pretty stuppid!
@mileslaw
@mileslaw 4 жыл бұрын
"Shall we put the track focus car on track?" "Nope." "Okay."
@glorious_help
@glorious_help 4 жыл бұрын
Miles Law what a dumb test
@gregchristie2763
@gregchristie2763 4 жыл бұрын
Correct..by miles
@aadilfaizal853
@aadilfaizal853 4 жыл бұрын
I'm unhappy with this review tbh
@joaomonteiro5257
@joaomonteiro5257 4 жыл бұрын
Typical Porsche fan boy
@aadilfaizal853
@aadilfaizal853 4 жыл бұрын
@@joaomonteiro5257 haha no. I like the TT RS actually. I mean if it was the 4.0 gts then Porsche but in this review I like the TT. Thing is cuz they are sports cars they shuve done the track test first then the road test
@bigmommaziga4095
@bigmommaziga4095 4 жыл бұрын
@@aadilfaizal853 no, most of the people who buy these cars, aren't gonna use them on track, so it's pretty logical to test them on the normal road first
@aadilfaizal853
@aadilfaizal853 4 жыл бұрын
@@bigmommaziga4095 I mean yea. True but these are performance cars and even though most people don't track these . People always wanna buy these cars based on it's performance. Comfort comes later on. If we're talking about the sports versions of these cars. Like the Porsche couldn't even show off it's amazing handling in this video .
@noahhhe
@noahhhe 4 жыл бұрын
Why chose the cayman t version and then kick it out for being the trackversion
@MagicAyrtonforever
@MagicAyrtonforever 4 жыл бұрын
Money.. Plus it sounds awful in any guise under a GT4 or 2020 GTS 4.0
@raveutcars
@raveutcars 4 жыл бұрын
This feels very disjointed. Discount Cayman due to too track focused and immediately go to the track. Z4 all toys off then a narration about DSC, which all cars have anyway?? Great to see Jason and Karun having fun though.
@Masteraal
@Masteraal 4 жыл бұрын
A sports car that's too noisy? Like really? Go buy a Prius.
@romainmatteiengineer7644
@romainmatteiengineer7644 4 жыл бұрын
I love TTRS as I have a tt but you can not compare a Cayman and TTRS ! TTRS has to be compare with cayman S or GTS !!!
@lash9400
@lash9400 4 жыл бұрын
I used to really like 5th gear when it first came out now I just don’t get it. Why didn’t they take the Porka out on the track ?
@EssentialRC
@EssentialRC 4 жыл бұрын
I really don't get why you'd drop the track version of the Cayman before hitting the circuit but I was more surprised how well the RWD Z4 did against the 4WD Audi!? Happy with my M40i. I won't be tracking it anytime soon 😂
@ianmitchell9102
@ianmitchell9102 4 жыл бұрын
Can’t believe the porsche didn’t get the chance to show its party piece
@gpb3762
@gpb3762 4 жыл бұрын
Cayman all day long!
@davisflyer
@davisflyer Жыл бұрын
I own a TTRS. As a daily, it's a great car, even in the twisties. Sounds great with the exhaust roaring in Dynamic mode or it can be very quiet and comfy in Comfort mode. For the track though, I'd take the Cayman.
@nicolasnicou2859
@nicolasnicou2859 Жыл бұрын
Am an Owner of a humble mk3 ....I'll have that ttrs mate dream car ...enjoy the ride
@3mariusx
@3mariusx 4 жыл бұрын
I choose the TT - it also has 90% aluminium body! Why don’t you say that...?
@alex-wd5cm
@alex-wd5cm 4 жыл бұрын
Audi TTRS
@des1gno
@des1gno 4 жыл бұрын
If the Z4 is a convertible, then both the Audi TT and the Cayman should come to this test as convertibles.
@shoji_3440
@shoji_3440 4 жыл бұрын
Or switch the z4 for the supra
@papaannefranku9693
@papaannefranku9693 4 жыл бұрын
The z4 is a roadster, It’s built from ground up to be a open top it meaning it doesn’t share some of the same problems that cabriolets do! And there’s no such thing as a "cayman convertible" it’s called a boxster which is also roadster.....
@glorious_help
@glorious_help 4 жыл бұрын
If you boot a sports car from a bumpy road then you should boot the comfy cars from the track..:
@philsells1082
@philsells1082 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Karun what was the timed lap of the Porsche? Bet it was quicker (57seconds)
@CCN-tu2kr
@CCN-tu2kr 4 жыл бұрын
Where’s the sprint test you claimed to have done ??
@kingdavid7571
@kingdavid7571 4 жыл бұрын
It's in a different segment - different video on you tube.
@savageZ4
@savageZ4 4 жыл бұрын
Bring back TIFF
@rajwade695
@rajwade695 4 жыл бұрын
Should have added the alpine a110 to the comparison tooo!!!!!
@brunadervishi6968
@brunadervishi6968 4 жыл бұрын
Cars Audi good 😍😍😍😘
@AStick3Pedals
@AStick3Pedals 4 жыл бұрын
The T version is the worst for the street. Get a S or GTS verison
@papaannefranku9693
@papaannefranku9693 4 жыл бұрын
Or just the base cayman!
@LordKossity
@LordKossity 4 жыл бұрын
wasn't that the case also with the test M1 vs RS3? the warmer the tyres got the worse the RS3 performed?
@DIsr20
@DIsr20 4 жыл бұрын
I love the ttrs but different drivers for different cars and using your phone to to get the lap time??? To many variables here. This is a very poor review and like so many have already stated regarding eliminating the best track car before the track test.. this was straight up dumb.
@vladzubanov7381
@vladzubanov7381 4 жыл бұрын
Porsche out? What a fair play! ))
@thechickenman2289
@thechickenman2289 4 жыл бұрын
That ttrs would go nice in my garage imagen mrc stage 2 in that little rocket with that gorgeous 5cylinder sound🎻🎼🎵🎶🎶🎶
@onealc9278
@onealc9278 2 жыл бұрын
I suggest drivers swapping vehicles around the track to get honest numbers
@glennmiller9491
@glennmiller9491 2 жыл бұрын
Watched this video twice as I’m consider these cars as my next purchase. I would have liked to have seen all the cars to all the tests as this would have better. For example, if you did the track test before the others would the RS still be in the running? Great cars, terrific speed, but the track handling looked wayward to me. Other all, the video gets a 3 out of 10. Sorry.
@davisflyer
@davisflyer Жыл бұрын
I think the problem when these testers test the Audi is that they don't drive it correctly. They try to drive it like a RWD car. It should be driven the way a front wheel drive car would be driven. The only difference is that with the added benefit of some rear wheel power, you'll be able to go a bit faster than in a purely FWD car. When driven correctly, FWD or AWD cars can be just as quick around a track. Brake deep, turn in slightly earlier than usual, trail brake - to keep weight on the front wheels - and then straighten the wheel as quickly as possible on the exit. Of course it's a lot of work to master, and it won't look as cool as drifting around a corner in a powerslide, but you'll likely be quicker not displaying those heroics.
@BurtSampson
@BurtSampson 4 жыл бұрын
3:09 what aircraft is that behind the BMW? It looks fantastic.
@MalcolmXpat
@MalcolmXpat 4 жыл бұрын
RAF Nimrod.
@nemesis4785
@nemesis4785 4 жыл бұрын
I think it's a Handley Page Victor and yes, they are an amazing looking aircraft, maybe a bit weird but definitely different. Fairly sure it's not a Nimrod.
@hugosequeira2997
@hugosequeira2997 3 жыл бұрын
I think it is a Vulcan...
@paulsj3273
@paulsj3273 4 жыл бұрын
Utter nonsense
@PhilbyFavourites
@PhilbyFavourites 4 жыл бұрын
I went and bought the GLA45, it’s a total hoot and I can still take stuff down the dump. Bear in mind this is the UK and , boys in blue permitting, you can lay the power on the road for about 10 seconds max before you get into arrestability or jail options. Great that we’ve got two track hero’s testing here but the GLA45 is never going on a track. It will overtake most things if needed and then vector back into the traffic and drop under the radar. In all honesty I’ve grown away from the Clarkson (and Plato) shouty driving. Hugely entertaining, but absolutely no relationship to driving it in the real world.... Last question: let’s let the video producers tell us what the daily drives of this demon duo are. Clarkson is famed for driving a Golf GTI as it covers everything you’ll ever need. How about it?
@andyhunt457
@andyhunt457 4 жыл бұрын
Is yr merc broken?.10 seconds sure you be near 3 figures by then 👍👍
@andrewcunningham6181
@andrewcunningham6181 4 жыл бұрын
Usual Audi understeer, the squigey chassis of the Z4...the Cayman T would wipe the floor with both!! Poor review guys!! Fuming the Porsche wasn't driven on track...absolutely crazy to bin it after the road test! Another livid viewer!!!!
@audiquattrovoorsprongdoort2064
@audiquattrovoorsprongdoort2064 4 жыл бұрын
Audi is best technology car
@VelhaGuardaTricolor
@VelhaGuardaTricolor 3 жыл бұрын
Try to squeeze the Jaguar into this contest is like shoving Andy Murray into the BIG 3.
@Hassanw9
@Hassanw9 4 жыл бұрын
great video but 50k for a fresh small monster... the depreciating and everything in mind you can easily buy a e63, rs6, m5, 911 turbo s for 50k... not brand new a generation behind but still they're upper classed cars for the same price
@glorious_help
@glorious_help 4 жыл бұрын
In the end we all end up with a polo or a fiesta or a picanto..... -youtubers
@NicolasParcigneau
@NicolasParcigneau 3 жыл бұрын
Dumped possibly the best road car (jag) just before the road test lol. These knock out video things are not a real good way to get a decent perspective on a group of cars abilitys!
@migueltelhado781
@migueltelhado781 4 жыл бұрын
Quite silly to kick out the Porsche because of its ride quality and noise inside - as expected in the T trim - and then do the track test. Please bring back Tiff and some sense
@DontTellMeMore
@DontTellMeMore 8 ай бұрын
Two car guys give a barbershop review of three purpose built cars. I have a 718CS and Audi RS5 V8. Getting out of the RS5 and jumping in the Cayman makes you feel like you just jumped on a chainsaw running at full throttle but, you are out to chop some trees no spread butter on your morning crumpet, I don't see any problem. Please learn how to use tolls, don't spread butter with a chainsaw. Still, I do question where your bread is getting buttered. You are both much better than all that.
@davideverman7984
@davideverman7984 2 жыл бұрын
Great video you guys should have switched drivers and ran 2 more laps in each car then see the results.
@martingetliffe
@martingetliffe Жыл бұрын
I thought that. It could be down to driver differences if not.
@rtrain9
@rtrain9 2 жыл бұрын
The fact the M lite runs with a full RS model is incredible to me. BMW for the W.
@crustydownunder
@crustydownunder 4 жыл бұрын
The toss out the Porsche because it's not as comfortable on the road, then drive the other cars straight to a race circuit! How stupid is that?
@davidjames3405
@davidjames3405 4 жыл бұрын
you eliminated the cayman by far the best track car then test the other two on the track. What gives? Absolutely a terrible review. P.S. I own a Audi S5
@stevetaylor5335
@stevetaylor5335 4 жыл бұрын
Why not get the Cayman S instead? The T is track focused. Even down to the door pulls. Not a fair review really.
@ellissanderson-mcilmoyle2823
@ellissanderson-mcilmoyle2823 4 жыл бұрын
I don't think that's the power figure of the BMW because the Toyota Supra was the same producers either more or less power than officially released every engine of that type produces different amounts of power
@nimamojtahedzadeh1568
@nimamojtahedzadeh1568 4 жыл бұрын
Is it only me or you guys also think they want to replace Tiff with Karun?
@bilgames
@bilgames 4 жыл бұрын
Should be a tts, not ttrs. Bmw isn’t a real M
@Redlineshadow29
@Redlineshadow29 4 жыл бұрын
7:56 ME
@justinconn9343
@justinconn9343 4 жыл бұрын
Welcome to fifth gear, we hate Audi! And are completely astonished by the really good one we just tested. Piss off fith gear!
@ernestrodrigues8030
@ernestrodrigues8030 4 жыл бұрын
For real? Haha haha ditched the cayman T cos it failed on its road test but jumps on a track test without it🤣🤣🤣🙄
@LovisSum
@LovisSum 4 жыл бұрын
1) the cayman is nosy - ofc it is its a bloody track sports car 🙄 2) the TT has rear seats - yes but they are unusable 3) No drag race, no actual substance on the difference between the cars 4) doesn't take track car on track - there was literally no point in not including the cayman, there are only 3 cars for christ sake 5) overacting
@markrhoden68
@markrhoden68 4 жыл бұрын
Hang on Porsche Cayman and Audi TTRS both fixed head sports cars, then a convertible BMW Z4.....surely the Toyota Supra would have been better comparison for this sector. If someone has mentioned this already my apologies
@jameskent2147
@jameskent2147 4 жыл бұрын
BMW all the way for me or though I'm not a fan of the new looks the e89 is a much more beautiful car
@skylinexj100
@skylinexj100 4 жыл бұрын
let's be real though, a major factor of buying a car is the aesthetic. The Cayman is stunning and a great improvement over the 981/987/986; the BMW is an absolute dog. Last gen z4 was fantastic, how have the design team regressed so much?
@SmashGhost
@SmashGhost 4 жыл бұрын
The most expensive and powerful TT vs. a pretty base track Cayman vs. a road-oriented Z4. TT and Z4 predictable wins, then you don't put the Cayman on the track. What're you doing?
@user-wt9se8uf6g
@user-wt9se8uf6g 4 жыл бұрын
TT rs top
@mateuszulicyn4168
@mateuszulicyn4168 2 жыл бұрын
Just wonder is the bloke in glasses turning into Al Pacino, Rod Stewart or Ms.Daubtfire? That was a really bad test. I bet they didnt get permission to drive Porsche on track and that's why they dumped it.
@DonLee1980
@DonLee1980 4 жыл бұрын
The bmw with less power with less rigidity, a removable room, was only slower by a bit. I’d take the BMW then. It has the better chassis
@isimon.
@isimon. 4 жыл бұрын
Don Lee Less understeer and more playfull 😁
@erezyoal
@erezyoal 4 жыл бұрын
Way TTRS and not TTS ? The BMW is not a real M car and steel it's fast as the TTRS
@darianistead2239
@darianistead2239 4 жыл бұрын
Tiff would have smashed them both
@xabiercruz2289
@xabiercruz2289 4 жыл бұрын
Wtf?? So the porsche is better for the track and you put it off the test? This guy have the same objetivity that Jeremy Clarckson...
@stephenfoster6940
@stephenfoster6940 4 жыл бұрын
So - it comes down to lap times differing by 0.5 s. How can the comparison of lap times be valid when there's a different driver doing the laps in each car? (and a different person operating the "stopwatch" - a phone for heaven's sake, started and stopped by a human judging when a fast moving car passes a lap marker - you have to be kidding.) Do we know that they have *exactly* the same driving ability (it would be miraculous if they did)? Even the two lap times for the *same* driver of the Audi differed by 0.7 s. Most school students understand the importance of controlling variables as a necessary condition for experimental validity but these guys don't. Zero credibility.
@thedoctor-4611
@thedoctor-4611 4 жыл бұрын
7:01 по водителю жук ползёт
@stevecade857
@stevecade857 4 жыл бұрын
Sports car vs GT cars then complain about on road comfort and take the GT cars to the track. Not clever. They're turning into old men looking for comfort over performance.
@nemesis4785
@nemesis4785 4 жыл бұрын
Thumbs down. Boot out the track oriented Porsche and then do a _track test?_ And what's with Plato's "Ooh ya fighter."?
@iMortalHQ
@iMortalHQ 4 жыл бұрын
Man wtf is these lot doing??? do they even drive these cars in traction control in "SPORT"??:? Makes a huge difference. even the audi slids
@stevemartin7464
@stevemartin7464 3 жыл бұрын
Despite that I still love the Jaguar.
@jWizard
@jWizard 4 жыл бұрын
they forgot the supra... HAHA
@jaguarundi98
@jaguarundi98 4 жыл бұрын
They didn't
@jWizard
@jWizard 4 жыл бұрын
@@jaguarundi98 yeah. They brought a less tuned version.
@jWizard
@jWizard 4 жыл бұрын
@Pedro if supra is s ricer, z4 is just rice
@Showmetheevidence-
@Showmetheevidence- 4 жыл бұрын
All comments about kicking out the Porsche are valid. And let’s face it... most people would still prefer that over the Audi/bmw. Especially after chirping about how shit it’s understeer was!
@Captainrave
@Captainrave 2 жыл бұрын
No they wouldn’t.
@MarkEardley1968
@MarkEardley1968 4 жыл бұрын
Nonsense!!!🙄
@Captainrave
@Captainrave 2 жыл бұрын
TTRS by a mile.
@getphuked2
@getphuked2 4 жыл бұрын
UNSUBSCRIBING!
@williambeck3029
@williambeck3029 4 жыл бұрын
No O'Shit handle
@resnonverba137
@resnonverba137 4 жыл бұрын
The dated TT would be the last choice for me. I'd be happy with either the Z4 or Cayman.
@sam_p792
@sam_p792 4 жыл бұрын
That bmw front end is horrible
@glorious_help
@glorious_help 4 жыл бұрын
What a dumb test, the Porsche doesn’t get a go at the track because it was too stiff and sporty on the road??! Ahhhahahahhaha
@sylvainmarier4818
@sylvainmarier4818 4 жыл бұрын
Ridiculous, why don’t you put the Porsche against the two others ??? Just for the « road noise » !! Ridiculous really. I’m pretty sure the Porsche would make better than the 2 others on the track
@vishnusankarsajimon
@vishnusankarsajimon 4 жыл бұрын
first
@rmixfaats
@rmixfaats 4 жыл бұрын
But i will choose the BMW z4 over all the cars .
@glorious_help
@glorious_help 4 жыл бұрын
Porscheeeeee, not porsch
@Turbo_TechnoLogic
@Turbo_TechnoLogic 4 жыл бұрын
6th
@Gjon777
@Gjon777 4 жыл бұрын
The dude driving the bmw was using index finger and thumb to drive that alone tells you he can’t drive
@nicusorusa12345
@nicusorusa12345 4 жыл бұрын
He was f1 driver, fyi
@harryc266
@harryc266 4 жыл бұрын
5th gear is shit without tiff.
@jonasstrdahlhansen8983
@jonasstrdahlhansen8983 4 жыл бұрын
The Z4 is so ugly, compared to the other ones
@edb9315
@edb9315 4 жыл бұрын
Jonas Stærdahl Hansen you’re lying dude...get your eyes tested.
@lesterarellano6563
@lesterarellano6563 4 жыл бұрын
1. Bmw Z4 2. Audi TT RS Porsche 718 was undesirable. Ruined by porsche just to sell more 911’s
@BlitzkriegRap
@BlitzkriegRap 4 жыл бұрын
Back seats in the TT RS aren't even big enough for 10 yo kids.
@audiquattrovoorsprongdoort2064
@audiquattrovoorsprongdoort2064 4 жыл бұрын
BMW idioot car champion for crsch hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
@newbeginnings8566
@newbeginnings8566 4 жыл бұрын
Typical crap TV car test, what. a couple of muppets ... In the end the Audi won because it was 0.5 seconds quicker (wow)..... The BMW is a convertible and the Audi can't do that trick... Add in the price difference as well... It's clear that best overall car is the Z4...
@Captainrave
@Captainrave 2 жыл бұрын
Huh? There is a roadster TTRS you muppet.
@gmantio
@gmantio 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah but it looks shit!!!! I would have BMW or Porsche. AUDI is just over rated and over priced
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