you sound like a professor lecturing the merits of historical theory lol I love it

Can you please do a lore video on Taurox the Brass bull! Your voice is really good for explaining fantasy lore!

Would a beast men unit be called the beastie boyz if they somehow joined an orc army?

Over one hour? Am I in heaven?

the bakground music just fits in with your fantasy lore videos i can go back to your lore videos basically anytime and just listen to you speaking and listening to the music

The Jabberslythe is a reference to the Jabberwocky, a monster found in a poem in _Through The Looking-Glass_, by Lewis Carrol. So, it's an Alice In Wonderland reference!

I died laughing at the Java the Bieber monster... Oh, god. You're the best Arch.

On the Beastigors, I think that should be made such that whenever they kill the banner carrier of an enemy unit, they pick up their banner and carry it and get morale boost from this(say...+1 moral per banner), maybe even cause extra damage to enemy morale when charging? Also, they should get to keep the banners over battles and just get extra banner carriers or maybe have them mounted on some of the beastigors' backs? It would add costumization to the unit. As for beastmen in general, maybe they should get their armour from fallen enemies? Like recruit them without armour, and as time progresses and you kill or rout enemy units, win battles and sieges your beastmen get bits of armour from their primary enemies. For instance, you have a unit of Gors that has killed 3 units of Empire Halberdiers(how, however, I'm not entirely sure) over the course of a few battles. In return, their primary weapons are Imperial halberds, maybe bits of Imperial armour strapped to them here and there. Again, it would add a feel of uniqueness and legacy to that unit. Like "Hey, look at us, we eat Empire soldiers for breakfast!". And for the Harpies. An idea: have them fly all the time and swoop down on the enemy and pick up or bash people off their horses/feet a few men at a time(like make a swoop "charge" and pick up 5-6 cavalrymen and lose a few harpies in return). If they charge a unit of braced spears/halberds/lances they get fucked, hard. Also, be particularly vulnerable to ranged weapons, so as to balance them out. As for Psygor catapults? Maybe by interacting with the rocks should lock him to it like an artillery piece, and then have the ability to detach from the pile. As for the Jabberslythe...how about, instead of a line-breaker, maybe make it a charge-breaker? Like, if it charges an enemy charging unit, that unit's morale breaks, maybe it even turns their charge against them?

GW seems to have never had and Idea with what do with he beastmen after they split Choas into three armies. I can see beastmen being a useful ambush force to supplement chaos warriors but as an army in of themselves something seems to be missing. They seem to have all the weakness of Skaven and Green Skins combined and non of the advantages.

For light armor you might think of it is that they have a thick hide/skin, and possibly their physiology is different, so maybe to wound the you need to strike deeply in to their body.

Beastmen confirmed. Time to watch an Arch video.

i miss this music in your vídeos ...

2018 anyone come back for nostalgia?

The closest Total War analogy to the ambush mechanic in tabletop, is probably the Celtic-dlc factions from Attila:TW, as they have the ability to deploy anywhere outside their enemies usual deployment-zone before each battle. The aren't that good, since the factions for balance reason has a poorer unit roster (esp. cavalry which is a big deal online), but amusingly it does mean two Celtic players can literally deploy their armies inside each other.

TW games have already had Ambusher "focused" armies. As part of as Napoleons peninsular campaign & as various Gallic & Iberian Tribes in Rome 2 . And of course the Huns in Attila! They just give these units certain weaknesses's that negate (a great amount of) the ambushing armies advantage. Such as "little to no armour".

Perhaps with the Ungors a system where when you begin a battle you attract a number of Ungor regiments into your army depending on the size and strength of your force. The idea being that these Ungors have simply followed the Warherd rather than being a cohesive part of the army.

Guess things have changed since I last played warhmmer, the army list I have has gors and ungors fighting in a single unit. Ungors got shoved to the front of the unit to catch arrows (shields optional), only to be shouldered aside when charging into melee to poke their spears at the enemy around the gors, The raiders are new too. Edit: as are the razorgor, cygor, ghorgon, harpy and the jabba-thing... pretty bare now that I think of it. Just checked - published 2003. Huh, hadn't realized it was that long ago.

taking the aura of madness from him ? sure for balance but at the same time that's one of the reasons you take the jabberslythe! is what makes it really cool! and i say that as a beastmen fan

Your theory about the Ghorgon's origin is interesting, but it'd be unheard of for a creature of actual Chaos to not have a Ward Save and Instability. It seems a wee bit too _corporeal_ for that.

Good idea if the Ungors are free, like an upgrade for the general as you mentioned. But I think it would be cool if you could spawn them in anywhere on the map at the start of the deployment like Kisho Ninjas, but ONLY if the battleground have a decent amount forest on them.

Maybe the beast men could work as a guerrilla faction because the closest thing to a dedicated guerrilla was the native Americans in empire which worked well to some effect

Arch, did you ever consider doing individual videos for each Chaos God? I know you already did quite a bit on Chaos but since each god has quite the depth of lore and info, I'm sure you can crank out good quality videos for each one. :)

The Justin Bieber monster's aura could cause madness making units go berserk, attacking both friendly and enemy units.

I think Morghur could have an aura that has a chance 50/50 chance to either kill or turn a single nearby unit into a chaos spawn that happens every so often. And please do a Daemons of chaos video

is that just me or are they more glasscanon than elves?

IMO i believe the Ghorgon is the Forsaken version for the Beastmen. A creature that has been blessed too much by Chaos. But still somehow managed to retain their sanity. Considering the fact the Beastmen have Chaos Spawn, i consider Ghorgons the stage in-between a regular Minotaur and a Chaos Spawn.

Damn arch im finally feeling the end times.... you inspired me to play warhammer table top so i purchased a bretonnian battalion and a lizard men battalion but when i went to a hobby store to pick up paints, magic cards, ect an employee and long time fantasy player told me how end times is scrapping almost everything i knew about table top and wanted to experience i kept my battalions and said screw it im playing the old way all i can say is now i despise the end times now i feel pressured about purchasing armies as they are no longer being produced also i would like to know im not in the warhammer community and wanted to know how long time fans feel about the changes in the end times

Hey Arch, You should make a video where you walk us through a small scale tabletop game, so that we get a better idea about how the rules and stats you talk about actually impacts the game.

Jokes on you, this race is playable in 12days ;D

Great stuff!

Your my favorite youtuber and this is my favorite vid because of the milion species ( fav faction too😄)

Okay so I would love to collect these but if anyone has ever seen the absurd prices Games Workshop charges people in Australia (normally between 1.5 and 2 times as much as they charge in the US for example: $69 for bestigors and $83 for a single doombull) I sadly can't. Id also recommend Khazrak the One-Eye for the primary general, with my backup being Gorthor the beastlord. Though while I can easily find them in my White Dwarf (they were in 363) I cannot for the life of me find either of them in the webstore... -.- Also personally I'd expect the ungors to be the 'peasant' equivalent and at best the vigiles equivalent that you drop out as soon as you can get access to viable units.

I was just thinking - how do people playing tabletop keep track of how many wounds every one of their big dudes have left?

Nice video !

Arch, you're doing a good job! But don't forget a lore video on the Daemons of Chaos, since they are the only other playable faction after the Dark Elves. Keep it up, buddy!

As of 2024, we should really get Arch to go through his army videos and compare how good are they lore-wise 🙏

not really on topic with the beast men but holy hell i just read that Karl Franz becomes a god in the end times?!

So I'm really new to the Warhammer universe, but is it possible that the reason the Beastmen have chariots because they steal the rigs from their defeated enemies?

I think that if beast men have a higher chance of ambushing armies in the game where the army is out of formation and maybe just in one long line or speed out in a camp then the beast men could be a tiny threat

Also. Jabba (like jabba the hutt) slythe (like slide and tithe put together). Also bb is kinda common in english... Blabber, blubber, jabber, gabber etc.

I once tried to date a girl that looked like a Jabberslythe haha XD

Some of those giants look like Giants had children with the Beastmen. Uhhhhhhhhgggg....

Brass bull one of the last dlc lords

59:46 "thingidybopp"

34:31 Heey! That minotaur is flipping me the bird! >:(

Come on Arch pretty please do Tilea next ... we got to talk about the mother of mercenaries at some point... also if we're lucky CA and the game will force GW to forget the End Times all together and do something with Tilea and Estalia instead of them being the token latin countries that they are at the moment in the lore!!!

I really hope the Beastmen are available as a playable faction down the road. I don't see why they couldn't be, aside from perhaps the issue of where to 'start' them. One idea would be like a horde in Attila, and one could start from a few of the larger forests of the Old World, the Chaos Wastes or Troll Country or Norsca or anywhere there is wilderness. To me, their units have such a cool, monstrous look. At the very least I sure hope all the Beastmen units are available to Chaos factions..

Hope to see Dark Elves next for lore and army! :D

No Chaos Dwarves and Kislev videos?

what's with the ungorr's banner at 22:08 that can't be an official banner for the Beastmen is it?

it surprisme that they do not follow elves, with the forest of Athel Loren being prety much a chaos zone, i would be nice to have some warbands being in the side of elves and so

ah the good old arch days. bring me back :(

That light armor from the Minotaurs is probably thick skin.

you said "you could just give them throwing axes and make them a good skirmish cavalry" then you lookat the game and go "Wtf they have throwing axes!? I hope they aren't skirmish cavalry" MAKE UP YOUR GOD DAMN MIND

again, i love your videos!!! My girlfriend even likes to listen while i do : )

Aura of madness, unit it engages in melee cant be ordered. Would be good ranged hunter simply because they cant disengage from it.

A hour long video on my babies the beastmen ? Yes please daddy arch

An army that every unit has vanguard deployment?

I fcking love how you talk man, english is not my native tongue and you sound to me like a scholar, if there was a sage i would imagine he would talk like you :P

blobs they are amorphous blobs

Do Beastmen go around pastures and eat grass? Because that makes them cute not scary.

I'd love to play as these in game... that bull looks sick

I hope the beastmen get added in at some point, maybe alongside the three kinds of elves. (They'll need some sort of ranged forces though)

"Let's say this, yeh" How you know your listening to arch warhammer

Mad cows even exist in that universe

Gotta admit the centigor at 47:36 with the apple on its ass made me laugh

oh man i rly want thos in warhammer total war :C

they could just give beastmen a bigger deployment zone... this would allow u to have a normal force, and place bands of units in the woods to the sides or whereever

Please do a video for chaos dwarves

The cygors looks epic

u forgot the most important thingy about the minotours the bloodgreed special rule

can you do a lore video on Dragons

1:13:35 that would be a riot, especially against High Elves. Instead of screams of agomy, kust a bunch of elves saying "Oh, dear," and "Oh my."

In regards to the Justin Beiber Monster; some crustaceans have alkali-"heavy" blood.

Are you going to make a Daemons of Chaos Army video?

1:10:00 wouldn't the goregens eat each other if there were two per army?

I wouldnt mind if they were implemented in total war as like, a horde army and act kind of like the Japanese Hattori clan all having guerrilla deployment. and have a mechanic that if food runs low the only units that takes loses to attrition would be the ungors because cannibalism.

So I've gotta ask, how do you like the way they implemented the beast men?

Are there any good books on the Warhammer fantasy universe that anyone might recommend?

Primal Fury could be represented by the 'Berserk' ability, perhaps?

I've bindge watched quite a few of these videos by now, and I can tell that Total war is NOT the best model of a strategy game for Warhammer Fantasy style model, but what is in fact tailor made model for it, would be seen in the old games of Kohan 1&2, if you don't know what that is, look it up. But in essence its a strategy game that lets you desighn your own unit squads, with frontlines, flanks, support and hero. With all sorts of possible combinations.

And what about Kislev?

As much as I'd like to see this race in the Total War game its pretty unlikely same with the Lizardman, Brittonians and the Wood Elves because people don't talk about them as much.

But if the Gorguns were the manifestation of beastmen rage, then wouldn't they be demons? Wouldn't that be a problem?

Awwyeah get into the war hammer 40k lore

"How does a belt constitute light armor?" Well, idk. Must it be the belt? Those are friggin beastmen. I would expect at the very least that their hide qualifies as a hardened leather, or in other words, light armor. Maybe that's the explanation? *sarcasm* Seriously now, especialy for the minotaurs those are ... idk maybe even 1 or 2 tons of angry bulging muscle mass, I would think it's not that easy to chop into them as it would be to chop a fragile little human or elf.

Sir i would very much like to play a co-op campaign with you when Warhammer Total War comes out.

inniative doesn't matter in a total war game if you tell a unit to attack it attacks

"You don't want chaffe units" REally? I use them all the time. Be it peasants to put siege in place and distract the archers while my true intantry moves to the walls in Medieval 2, or mobs of villagers tying enemy line infantry in my 6 barreled turkish cannons in Empire, or Ashigaru in spear wall formation holding the enemy from my walls while the archers murder both of them in Shogun 2. I used chaffe in all Total War games =D Maybe I'm psychopath in hiding...

yay morghur came out, chaos spawns ftw!

intrestingly i managed to kill a gient with a ungor raider and a bunch of warhounds with poison upgrade

21:30 nice banner

Arch, do dark elves lore!

what about Khazrak, the One Eye or Gorthor, The Beastlord, granted Gorthor is dead but that does not stop the table top game.

53:24 is that suitable to show on KZfaq?

Please save my orcs

FOR THE EMPEROR!!!!!!!

Do you think that a DLC that has a standalone campaign involving the Beastmen, let's say you can either play as the Beastmen or the empire. If you were playing as the BEastmen you are supposed to destroy the Empire and all of it's settlements and as the EMpire you would have to fight back the Beastmen who have became especially strong and have conquered and destroyed some of your settlements. Which you have to re-conquer and rebuild as you push the Beastmen back.

The Justin- Biber- Monster... lol :P

Beastmen as the first major DLC... interesting. I think CA is trying to be clever. Honestly though I wanted my Bretonnia followed by Kislev.