How about the lip sync facial expressions DA Michael Graveley has done this entire trial as if he is trying to influence witness testimony?

Totally disagree with Court TV anchor, Michael A. - this judge is NOT doing a great job!

Where can I watch the defense closing ?

Zach should move on, and Rosalio should date a Single Lady. I just don't know what to say, about some men and some women too.

Both parents are there

Yes, that’s why I said without the parents

@@pickleeevee6934 Kat Brown said parents, not parent

Yeah but this way they show proof of what monsters they are .

They can’t do it without him in there! If they did he would have an immediate appeal opportunity because it violates his 6th amendment right to face his accuser and due process! It’s similar to Erika stefanko getting a retrial!! It was telling that he didn’t want to go back with the attorneys to watch the review!

I agree. I'm sure it adds to the trauma and is frightening. I sat on a jury for a csa case and the little girl victim had to testify in front of her abuser and we had to recess several times because she couldn't even begin to speak without crying. All of us jurors were crying. It was awful seeing her struggle like that. A deputy in the courtroom gave her his badge to hold for comfort while she testified and it worked.

In certain situations, they can testify via CCTV

so you have only observed him other than that one time? look at him throughout the trial. not fast blinking like a stripper wearing false eyelashes does not a murderer make.

​ ...well yeah, along with multipleof us we have been observing him other than that once with his daughter .. not only the non blinking stare but the slight curled lip along with multiple other novice body language ques is pretty unsettling. Im 1000% not saying hes guilty or not bc not all facts are in but being a daddy's girl, myself,If my father stared at my as he did to his daughter it would scare the piss outta me. And this is coming from someone neutral God's honest truth!

I literally thought the screen was frozen until noticing the headlines scrolling at the bottom

I thought the screen was frozen

Yep lip was odd as well

Seems like the Judge is somewhat aloof to what's going on his his court 🙄

Totally agree, same in Australia

Here in the states we have some law saying defendants have the right to look their accusers in the eye. It's ridiculous and outdated and should definitely be changed in cases involving minors

@@Kiraiko44 Our Constitution is never outdated.

​@@lmcp1038 in Australia you guys put the accused in a box like an animal....

How about the lip sync facial expressions DA Michael Graveley has done this entire trial as if he is trying to influence witness testimony?

@@robertlawrence9000yeah I find both parties are not acting in good faith. This trial should be a mistrial. It’s a mess.

I saw the DA mouthing exactly what the Daughter was saying, word for word. That Daughter was so coached, it's shameful!

@@cherriefetterly783 okay. I missed a lot today. Thanks for the update!

And not just with the daughter. He’s done it with others.

I agree! I think every court proceeding should be video'd. Would cut down on corruption & unfair convictions as well.

indicating to her to button up her mouth when she was f bombing the judge 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Maybe it was after we all heard the daughter swearing at the defense attorney ? "I was answering your f**king question"

@@missmariss5037 There you go

he was telling her to be quiet, as she kept looking at him, asking him stuff. he was actually protecting her. but once again, court tv spreads grade a bullcrap.

​@terracedweller1 no he wasn't she's a key witness in this case he's trying to get her from talking anything she says can be used against him

Yes

your not alone

Agreed. He just goes into Story Mode and allows the madness to continue.

A very slow circus; no respect for the victim and family😢

This trial is hilarious 😂

He is too old and sounds like he has Covid!

Judge needs to retire asap !

He is absolutely inappropriate. This judge is horrific. How dare he make light of anything. His TIE? wtf

Did you watch the Rittenhouse trial??

He has all his faculties and knows Wisconsin law well,

I thought he should have retired back in the Rittenhouse trial.

Whatever look at the president 😊 America is the pit hole of mental health ❤

I completely agree!

She did such a fantastic job and she’s so brave

yeah....she should be in like a zoom mode! Video conference!

Defendant has the right to be present to all testimony regardless of who it is.

Well, he has a constitutional right to face accusers, so there is that....

Lol. She's old enough to take blame.

This is a girl that’s been coached by a controlling mother. She’s even snippy like her on the stand.

@@Thebeautiful11 not in these circumstances she is not. Stealing something yes but she is in a deplorable situation. She is stuck between her parents affairs. She is far too young for that. She should be wrapped in love from both parents and be kept out of this murder case because she is still a minor. 😮

​@Thebeautiful11 excuse me what??? Do you also blame rape victims?

@@Thebeautiful11 wow you are really a piece of work. Fan of this jail bird?

I was on a child rape case in California. When the 2 victems, who were about 5-7 during the crimes testified, a curtain was put up so they couldnt see the defendant. The jury could see everything though. They were about 15 or 16 during the trial.

As a 9 year old, I testified in person on the stand.

Constitution means that the Defendant in the US has the right to face their accuser.

@@DoncasterLass This child is a witness, not his accuser.

This judge has me wondering about his ability to be impartial.

Something is definitely wrong with the judge

She sounds like mouthy brat. Her mom seems the same way by her text messages.

She’s a brat

Leave it to state appointed prosecutors to put her on the stand,to endure this hell

The part where r the daughter was answering the defense attorney’s question n the the attorney turned to the dad ignoring her answer cause she didn’t like it n talking over her was so disrespectful. The judge should’ve called her out on that. That woman is nasty n plays fake nice. Her n the dad probably bang on bathroom breaks. She’s a b. Prob insecure too because of her face but she takes it out on everyone. So off putting. I actually didn’t watch this trial after opening cause she was so gross.

@@Ksizzle316 I think she is kind of sexy . Don’t tell my wife .

huh? that is just how he is. look at old videos. he has not done anything different throughout the whole trial. When she first went on the stand he was smiling from ear to ear - until she started to tell great big porky pies, contradicting her mothers testimony and also admitting she herself tracked her mother.

I agree, it was super creepy! It seemed like he was desperately trying to connect with her telepathically.

@@DoncasterLass you writing him jailhouse love letters yet? You are exactly the type.

Yes, he was trying to intimidate/scare her so she doesn’t tell them what he made her do, bc he knows he looks like a bad parent for manipulating her to go with him & doing devious/stalking issues with her mom, that’s just nasty & evil, bc I know someone who’s dad used his 2 girls as pawns or flying monkeys, so that when they were on their days with their mom, they needed to tell him everything she was doing, so he could use it against her in court, it’s sad. The court she is going thru is in WI also, but not where they’re & the court system there wouldn’t do anything to him & she had 5 lawyers & none of them would do their job for her. Her daughter is scared of him & doesn’t want to see him & wants her mom to get full custody & she can’t get it at all, bc no matter if they’re abusive they say that the kids need to have there dad in there lives, but not if the kid doesn’t want to see him & she has expressed it to the GAL & they wouldn’t let her speak or listen to what her mom said she wanted, it is just disgusting how it turned to make her mom look bad & theres been 22 other women or more now that have been thru the same situation & went up together to get something done to this court system but no one will help them so sad,

@@AshMc1970 that’s exactly how I saw it too.

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bull crap. wait until the real story comes out.

According to her testimony the dad threatened her with a gun

Yeah. These analysts are such lawyers. Ew. No regard for the psychological piece of all this. Or if they have it, it's all "Oh I love that they showed the grey. It's not all black and white." Meaning what? We don't dare make up our minds about this man's intentions? Please. His mask has been well and truly ripped off.

and she completely lied through her teeth about a lot. did you not hear she stole phones and tracked her own mother. i have the theory she hated junior, she told her dad stories and he decided to investigate him. and she used that buzz word groomed, which implies a lot more than control. and we only have her word about the gun. why did her mother never bring it up? wasn't that the very best excuse for him never to see his kids again? why did mom never report him for that to the cops? because it never happened?

@@DoncasterLass Wow.

@@DoncasterLass exactly

At one point he didn’t know where his jury was. He forgets if he gave rulings and takes a whole life story to get there. It’s amazing he’s still a Judge 😂

He seems bored, passive and enable-y. I snorted when he said the matter is continuing to be scrutinised. What a joke.

it was brought to judges attention, along with mom using sign language. he issued an order for both the mom and Zach to stay silent (unless zach needs to speak with his lawyers) and not gesture throughout the remainder of the trial.

Absolutely. Father was putting two fingers up to his lips as to tell the child to shut up.

I wholeheartedly agree. I am also from Australia and had to testify as a minor. I didn’t have to step one foot in the courtroom. I couldn’t have done it otherwise. This young lady is incredibly brave.

she contradicted her own mothers evidence and also admitted to tracking her. she is not brave. she was a jealous girl who was happy to go along with her dad at not liking him. and for good reason. Junior owes money to his own children and thousands to his business partner. he took drugs and was a player as far as women go. He is probably hiding someone on a Mexico beach, hiding from his troubles.

She was a disrespectful brat!

You can't take his constitutional right away.

If I were a child I definitely would feel intimated by my father staring me down. Especially knowing he was able to kill someone. You heard her say When he woke her and boys up in the middle of the night at moms house. She like any child, listened to him because he was the parent. Even at her mother's house in the middle of the night. A child is going to obey parents. Similar to children who are separated from parents and parent shows up at a park etc and says come with me. The child wouldn't know any better even if the parent was removed for being abusive or addict

Law and Crime Network, have watched the trial everyday!

Jury is tainted.

That's what the defense want from the start

​@@stubut100 Well of course, if you were in that position wouldn't you?

they didn't. The State did. The Defence was just forced to ask on re-cross more questions about where she saw the gun and then had to ask a further question when the daughter said it was at his home. It was when the Judge and the Defence tried to calm her down when she said it had nothing to do with this case that she decided to throw a strop and shout out that someone threatened her with the gun. She never even said it was her dad or what the threat was. it was then she was removed from the court to speak with an attorney.

Common sense would tell you it was the dad

@@DoncasterLass the defense was not "forced" to ask anything - poor choice by the defense.

@@phildeslip728 if that is what the jury is thinking then they are disregarding the instruction by the judge.

​@@DoncasterLass I've read a lot of your comments, you're right on.

I think he has some medical issues and needs to retire I mean honestly how old is he ?? Florida voted to keep him there 😂

HE did not have control of his own phone in the rittenhouse trial ...the TRUMPER !

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As her mothers sending cues via sign language from the gallery…..and the slimy DA is mouthing answers as she testifies like he did with the jailhouse snitch ‘die,die,die!

I think the judge has seen his better days . Lol😊

Agree

With no proof. There is no video of mother signing to the daughter. Just gossip from his family.

Or the pretty one who done the parkland peado murderer

Exactly. Ridiculous judge

Oh please 🙄 That judge was biased towards that state from the get go.

@@gmimi2 bias? he did all he could to keep out stuff but the defense kept opening the doors. The defense was terrible. 😂

piss poor, lobbing the f bomb at the judge and snapping back at him. yeh. great role model.

Poor kid! A spoiled brat is what she is with no respect. A preppy teen groomed by her sleezy mother.

probably because she was f bombing and shouting back at the judge. he was just telling her to button it and to calm down, as her mother also admitted she tried to do.

@@DoncasterLass Wait until the proper file with audio is supplied to the court and they can hear the context at the time he made the gesture before you say what it was

​@@DoncasterLass 😮 You are lying.

I would imagine the families don’t want laughter over this case. This trial is a circus and should’ve been deemed a mistrial by now.

@@mollycuddle9990May I ask where you obtained your armchair law degree from in order to claim that this should have been “deemed a mistrial by now…” 🙄

@@lottie8970 nope

@@mollycuddle9990 Again.. when did you get your law degree?!

@Sheila Keenan well said

hope State DA is also reported to the judge for mouthing answers to his witnesses numerous times. He is as dirty as f**k

What time do you know ?

@@DoncasterLass he also did that with the jailhouse snitch…mouthing die, die, die! Why are people so tunnel visioned against the defence. The DA is a crooked piece of slime…the boss of Binger from the Rittenhouse trial. The rotten apple doesn’t fall far from the tree!

@melodie shimon it was court time between 6.46:24 and 6.48:16 when Nichole Muller was pushing her about the unregistered gun coming back tk Wisconsin from California. I think you might have seen the first time where as he pushed his lips together ask say be quite but his defence team managed to throw her mum in the mix and make it her fault .I'm sorry I don't have a time for that as I was watching via KZfaq. Hope that helps but he definitely fell to pieces and was trying to shut up the witness or make eye contact with his attorney. There's another big story surrounding that unregistered gun .

@@Megs108 hi what is the video called and where can i see it? ive just come across this case. that poor child :(

Just one time. Others was "dad" stop reaching

That's an indication of how much she has been coached ...

she was told to call her dad defendant .

​@Light House Psych you're exactly right... She doesn't have to worry about going home to her dad after she testifies but she does have to worry about how her mom feels about her testimony, it's so coached it's sad.

@@delorisjones7729 shortly after the prosecutor said he would be referring to him as the defendant, the daughter called him that a few times. Doesn't mean coached. But, of course they had talked to her prior to testifying. You never throw any witness on the stand without talking to them. And she's 14, of course they would talk to her in advance. Nothing to see here

The defence attorney she is gorgeous 🤔

Omg she is ugh. Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. The defense attorney is not beholden to beauty based on her condescending entitled attitude. Ugh

yeh, State DAs lawyer is sooooo..... ugh.

Yes!! It's so funny how people jump on a bandwagon and completely ignore the coaching on the other side.. it was apparent that the daughter was sticking to the coached testimony and wouldn't have listen to anything her dad was doing.. I swear it seems people aren't even watching the same trial as me lol