Evergreen College and the Evergreening of America: Benjamin Boyce

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Benjamin Boyce is a popular KZfaqr and podcaster. He was a senior in college at Evergreen University when the campus experienced an interesting upheaval that had to do with racial tensions. Or, at least, certain ideologies about racism. He’s extensively documented the whole incident on his KZfaq channel here: / @benjaminaboyce
In this episode, Benjamin and I talk about what happened at Evergreen and some of the cultural implications of these events. We then talk about the so-called “evergreening of America.” In many ways, what went down at Evergreen in May 2017 has become a proleptic microcosm of what’s going on today in 2020.
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@davissae 2 жыл бұрын

“The way the classes were designed reminded me a lot of preschool 🙀”

@vivanance 3 жыл бұрын

Evergreen is not an anomaly - it's coming to a town near you, if it's not already there by now.

@Cleisthenes2 3 жыл бұрын

Indeed - I think partly because a lot of people on the left who should have known better dismissed it as 'a right-wing talking point.'

@timwhite5562 3 жыл бұрын

I would think the years working in preschools helped to prepare him for 4 years at Evergreen.

@Jimbo1550 3 жыл бұрын

So happy for this interview! I've listened to you both for several years! Thank you so much, both of you!

@user-ll9wh4jt2k 9 ай бұрын

I am Australian. Thanks for this explanation. It is very valid for understanding current events in my country too.

@captainstarkbreew.4575 3 жыл бұрын

The crossover I’ve been waiting for!

@timwhite5562 3 жыл бұрын

From what I've heard so far about the aftermath of 2017; to the school, the teachers like Bret and Heather and many of the students, it seems that even 3 years later, the students that were leading the uproar still have the same sense of entitlement that they had then. It seems that with many of them, they have yet to grasp the fact of the seriousness of what they did, and what could (and in many cases SHOULD) have been the result. At almost any other institution at any other point in time, if this resulted in a large number of students being expelled, it would have been them getting off easy. It is highly likely that if they did this somewhere else, MANY of them would have been facing a long list of VERY serious felony charges. Inciting a riot, kidnapping and unlawful imprisonment (George Bridges as well as some other faculty who were essentially hostages at one point), assaults, intimidating witnesses, obstruction of justice, destruction of government property, and on, and on, and on. And it wouldn't just be these charges on their own, but people indicted on several counts of these charges. They're kids, mostly teens and people in their early 20s. We know how it is at that age, they don't have the most developed impulse-control yet and to many of them likely never considered the possible life changing repercussions for it, I can probably forgive them for their ignorance, to a degree. Some of the faculty who were involved however, they have NO excuse, and Naima Lowe being the #1 instigator. Being more aware of her and her obvious involvement, I have no reservations in saying that not only did she enabled what happened, I believe she was the instigator that made this whole thing happen. Forgetting her biography up to the point of the whole affair, it seemed that the the students that were the organizers of it were really just the mouthpiece that SHE used to forward her own agenda. In video after video you hear the same terms being repeated by the students, things like "emotional labor," and other terms that many haven't heard used, then you watch a video of her giving a presentation a few years before this, and there you hear her using all of these terms. She manipulated everyone around her, facility as well as students. She knew perfectly well the possible trouble the students were facing, I just don't think she cared. I doubt that, if she mentioned it at all, she gave any real emphasis that there could be serious ramifications for what the students were planning. She's little more than an academic chicken hawk.

@jackjames6849 3 жыл бұрын

Nah. No excuse for mentally functioning people of the age of majority to commit apparently gross violations of civil rights.

@timwhite5562 3 жыл бұрын

@@jackjames6849 Well, in the eyes of the law I agree, but ignoring the things that lead up to and initiate the event doesn't benefit anyone. More to the point though is that it would allow the person, who IMO is THE most responsible for what happened, to skate through it without any scrutiny. You can be SURE that if this event ended in the way that these really naive and clueless kids thought it was going to (the exact nature I don't know, and probably changed from kid to kid) and they were viewed as some kind of heroes, she would move front and center to receive whatever praise that was given. The fact that after she left Evergreen because of the "amount of racism," which going by what had been considered to be "racism" for centuries, was all but non-existent; some other short sighted and oblivious institution secured her a 2-year fellowship, which she also left early do to THEIR apparent oppressive racism (offering her a fellowship for the sole purpose of being her there so they could subject her to more oppression seems like a LOT of work), but let's be honest, she could work at a place that's 99% black and she'd still somehow find a way they are racist) is demonstrative that she's shameless.

@Justice55339h 6 ай бұрын

The "emotional labor" term for manipulation/exploitation is common in the ideology they follow of "anti-racism"🤮 why don't they do us the emotional labor of controlling themselves and shutting up

@francinem4944 3 жыл бұрын

After watching Benjamin's series and reposted over the summer months, I've been surprised that the evergreen president never resigned from his position just by his own capitulation... strange hypocrisy? thanks for this interview

@PSBEadventures 3 жыл бұрын

And now, these kids are tearing down all but one or two historical statues in Portland and a city near you.

@xicofaria 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent interview, it decodes the moment perfectly. There's very little info and reflection, study and analysis on the behaviours that the media accept face value and end up validating through political activism.

@taylorsharp5928 3 жыл бұрын

Fantastic interview

@davidprince1138 3 жыл бұрын

Yes, you most definitely need to do your homework, lol. I have seen at least 90% of Mr. Boyce's podcasts. Very enlightening.

@jpvoodoo5522 3 жыл бұрын

49:16. This is exactly why companies are instituting CRT training-To insulate the company elites from liability.

@timwhite5562 3 жыл бұрын

From Ben's description of how Evergreen was set up; the immersive type of independent study, I can definitely see why it was attractive to him when he was looking into going back to school for his degree. Personally, it has some red flags that I would probably have found suspect, but I certainly don't need convincing to see why it would be attractive to some people.

@AleadaA 3 жыл бұрын

The inmates running the insane asylum is attractive to the insane. This sort of dysfunction is counter productive to any advancement in a persons life or society in general.

@JeffDunsworth Жыл бұрын

24:52 of video is the exact reason the faculty and students fell in line with what happened at evergreen. And in today's climate the exact reason it's cropping up every.