Priest says animals are people and "misgendering" is a sin

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The Counsel of Trent

The Counsel of Trent

Күн бұрын

In this episode Trent examines the arguments of Fr. Daniel Horan who claims that Catholics should seriously consider that some animals are people and also claims it is a sin to misgender someone.
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"We humans need to open our minds to the personhood of nonhuman animals" - www.ncronline.org/news/opinio...
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@Seliz463
@Seliz463 2 жыл бұрын
The kind of people who think ticks have personhood are the same people who argue that an unborn child lacks it
@brothersaintmichael9735
@brothersaintmichael9735 2 жыл бұрын
As a Franciscan, that priest makes me sad. We should not celebrate gender dysphoria or enable it. We should love them and pray for them, but not embrace their wrong thinking. Thank you for being brave enough to tackle the issue, Trent. I don't think I'd be able to do the subject justice on my own KZfaq channel.
@AJKPenguin
@AJKPenguin 2 жыл бұрын
Are you a Secular, OFS? If you don't mind me asking? I know a lady in Wisconsin who is OFS.
@brothersaintmichael9735
@brothersaintmichael9735 2 жыл бұрын
@@AJKPenguin yes, I am a third order secular Franciscan (OFS) in California. Please check out my KZfaq channel. So far I have only offered the daily readings, but I hope to expand content soon.
@HolyKhaaaaan
@HolyKhaaaaan 2 жыл бұрын
Brother, do friars use the internet or computers? I've been considering the religious life but I'm not quite weaned off using computers for entertainment.
@brothersaintmichael9735
@brothersaintmichael9735 2 жыл бұрын
@@HolyKhaaaaan it depends on the order. Some do have limited computer time. Check out the KZfaq channel "Breaking in the Habbit." It is ran by an amazing Franciscan Friar. Above all, pray and ask God to guide you in discerning your vocation. Pax et bonum and God bless.
@jaqian
@jaqian 2 жыл бұрын
@@AJKPenguin His name is "Brother" so probably a Franciscan friar. I'm a Secular Franciscan.
@terryhill5509
@terryhill5509 2 жыл бұрын
He reads NCR so we don't have to. Thank you, Trent!
@michaelrome3527
@michaelrome3527 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the common sense Trent. Can we all pray for this priest please?
@ZTAudio
@ZTAudio 2 жыл бұрын
Pray for him? How about you enforce basic discipline and defrock him?
@robobanner7011
@robobanner7011 2 жыл бұрын
I pray the priest repents from promoting gender dysphoria and instead help preach to ppl their real God-given identities
@johnlawlessmusic
@johnlawlessmusic 2 жыл бұрын
I’m sorry you have to dredge into the NCR for your research, but thanks for making videos like this to hopefully prevent some of our brethren from wandering away from the faith!
@jd3jefferson556
@jd3jefferson556 2 жыл бұрын
I have a friend that is same sex attracted and Catholic and he believes that contraception, putting on dresses and having sex with men and women outside of marriage is ok. Priests like this and Fr Martin scare me the most because my poor friend if I bring up that his lifestyle is not Catholic he can just bring up Fr Martin and ignore me.
@Hillbilly_Papist
@Hillbilly_Papist 2 жыл бұрын
Once my cat gets a job and starts paying bills and helping with chores I'll place her equal as humans.
@jdotoz
@jdotoz 2 ай бұрын
I mean, that's not really a good argument. I don't think you would put a dependent child or a disabled spouse or parent at a sub-human level; they would all be equally human.
@job1.21
@job1.21 2 жыл бұрын
For people that put animals on the same level as humans, I use the "roadkill" test. And it usually gives them insight into how they truly feel about animals and humans. If you are driving down a road and see a dead animal on the side (most likely having been hit by a vehicle) would you have the same reaction if instead that animal was a human? I've never heard anyone I've asked, including some hardcore animal rights activist, say there wouldn't be a difference in their reaction or feeling. And that shows us the truth, even if both deserve respect, kindness, and love, animals are not on the level of humans.
@FrJohnBrownSJ
@FrJohnBrownSJ 2 жыл бұрын
I love it. Thank you. I'd stop and bury any human (or call the police and/or the coroner, knowing they'd be buried...). I'd only bury my family pet or the plough horse (and I don't have pets or a plough horse) which fits, knowing the true purpose of non-human creation.
@l21n18
@l21n18 2 жыл бұрын
There wouldn’t be a difference for me
@job1.21
@job1.21 2 жыл бұрын
​@@l21n18 Interesting. Unfortunately there is only one way to find out if that's true, and I hope you or I or anyone never have to come across a dead human on the side of the road. I just find it fascinating that your reaction to seeing a squirrel or bird having been killed by a vehicle would be no different if instead it was a human being. Would your actions be any different? Would you pull over or keep driving for the human and animal alike? Would you call the authorities in both situations? Or would it just be more of an internal indifference to both cases? Either way, thanks for being the first person I've heard (or read) say there is no difference to them, as long as it is a honest assessment to the conundrum.
@ninodjuras
@ninodjuras 2 жыл бұрын
@@l21n18 You would do deratizaton or desinsection in your house but you wouldn't burn house full of squatters, I think things are pretty clear.
@job1.21
@job1.21 2 жыл бұрын
@@annaskele628 I don't disagree with what you're saying (minus the first two sentences). I even stated in my original comment that animals do deserve our respect and yes, reverence for God's creation. Still, it's difficult to perceive that I would have the same reaction to a dead animal on the side of the road as opposed to a human being in the same condition. I can acknowledge that it could potentially have something to do with the frequency of both circumstances. I see a lot of roadkill where I live. But I'm not indifferent to it. It's never a positive experience, but deep down I know that feeling would be amplified a thousand fold if that was a human being and I hope never have to come across that and I believe and know a lot of people would feel the same... Since humans are made in the image of God, it should be more traumatic to see a human killed than any other animal. Not saying the latter is never traumatic but there has to be a degree of difference. Just like there's a difference between killing a plant (scientifically demonstrated to have different forms of intelligence) and an animal, there's a difference between killing a animal and human, if not for any other reason than personal(species) bias. Again I agree, no matter what, reverence for creation is a, if not the, way to honor God.
@simonsonsco.4982
@simonsonsco.4982 2 жыл бұрын
My dog was put to sleep just a couple of days ago. He was very sick and demanded a lot, financially and emotionally, from my family. I had to make the difficult decision. I have to say, I had second thoughts on my decision. Thank you Trent for clarifying what the Church says about this issue.
@roseg1333
@roseg1333 2 жыл бұрын
I’m so sorry about your loss may you see him again 🙏🏼✝️🕊 there is no shame in admitting that he/she was like family to you and you made the best choice for that little one so they would not have to suffer as their Stewart God bless ❤️🙏🏼
@GardenMinistry.
@GardenMinistry. 2 жыл бұрын
If animals are "like people", then when an animal kills, bites, or permanently hurts a human person can that animal (whether it's a dog, cat, horse, tiger, wolf, shark, monkey) go to prison or be tried in a court of law? 🤔🙄
@Chamindo7
@Chamindo7 2 жыл бұрын
Ha ha. Reminds me of middle ages where I believe some animals were literally tried in a court of law. Thou most wicked and foul chicken, thou wilt pay for thy pecking, farmer Geoffrey's eye!
@GardenMinistry.
@GardenMinistry. 2 жыл бұрын
@@Chamindo7 hahaha 😂😆😂
@l21n18
@l21n18 2 жыл бұрын
Not only humans are held to the same standard, is a 1 month old baby punished for its actions? Even in Catholicism, you have an age of accountability.
@romans1207
@romans1207 2 жыл бұрын
@@l21n18 Ok, so when/if an animal reaches the age of accountability and attacks a human should they be given their Miranda rights and tried in a court of law?
@PlandemicSeries-com
@PlandemicSeries-com 2 жыл бұрын
@@l21n18 Yeah, because there are a lot of 1 month old babies that break the law.
@crobeastness
@crobeastness 2 жыл бұрын
It can't be this hard for a priest to know about gnostic dualism.
@thatsmynametoo777
@thatsmynametoo777 2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t be surprised if he is aware. I was talking to this gay guy who used to call himself a bad Catholic, and after finally opening up to me about his sexuality he seemed to be more comfortable telling me about what he believed about everything. And he told me some wild things, mostly things to justify his homosexuality, but he unified all the ideas under Gnosticism, using that word. He never said if he got that from the priests he’d hang out with, but he kept emphasizing that most priests and nuns are gay and a lot of the anti Catholic ideas he has he got from them. He wouldn’t say that like an accusation or to blame them, he was trying to use them as an authority.
@crobeastness
@crobeastness 2 жыл бұрын
@@thatsmynametoo777 these priests and nuns were active in their homosexuality? (Either with him or without?)
@cjgodley1776
@cjgodley1776 2 жыл бұрын
I would bet good money this priest is a freemason. He has numerous articles written that are loaded with freemasonic terminology and symbolism.
@thatsmynametoo777
@thatsmynametoo777 2 жыл бұрын
​@@crobeastness My understanding from our conversation is that they are active in their homosexuality. He could have been lying to me, but that wasn't the sense I got.
@dylantemple2509
@dylantemple2509 2 жыл бұрын
Misgendering people is a sin: leading someone to believe they are anything but their biological gender on purpose is sinful.
@crobeastness
@crobeastness 2 жыл бұрын
Biological sex*. Gender is just social construct. It's doesn't exist. There is only sex and that's it. I'm not sure gender needed to be invented (by John money) in the first place.
@Mish844
@Mish844 2 жыл бұрын
you know that spreading falsehoods is a sin? If so, then why are you lying? We are entities with a souls, we are not in fact nothing more than sex. On the offshoot: "biological gender" is an oxymorone.
@crobeastness
@crobeastness 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mish844 did you know transgenderism is a heresy?
@AnestheticsForAna
@AnestheticsForAna Жыл бұрын
@@Mish844 I don’t think biological gender is an oxymoron. Historically, gender is a synonym of sex. It’s actually even more connected to the sexual difference than people think because the prefix “gen-“ denotes to produce, to be born, birth so it has to do with sexual difference. Speak to evolutionary biologists and they will confirm that gender is inextricably linked to sexual difference. A species with one sex would no come up with the concept of gender, yet humans do because we know there is more than one sex. Gender cannot exist on its own as a concept without the concept of sex or the sexual difference
@Mish844
@Mish844 Жыл бұрын
@@AnestheticsForAna yes, historically. The language slightly changed in usage since ancient times, regardless of your sympathies and as a result gender is no longer strictly biological in its usage jsut like whale is not considered a fish today.
@Snoopy-mo4hw
@Snoopy-mo4hw 2 жыл бұрын
St. Mary’s College where Fr. Dan Horan teaches has an LGBTQ+ Center. It is sad to think we now have to scrutinize what is going on wherever we decide to send our children, including Catholic Universities.
@malice836
@malice836 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely
@michaelverde4844
@michaelverde4844 2 жыл бұрын
I can't believe that these colleges refer to themselves as Catholic and priests like Fr. Dan Horan and Fr. James Martin. They are definitely not aligned with Roman Catholic catechism. So sad! Our Lady pray for us! Sacred Heart of Jesus have Mercy on us! 🙏🏼
@jdotoz
@jdotoz 2 ай бұрын
This is one reason I will probably steer my children toward public colleges. I'd rather they be in Babylon with their eyes open than in a pasture with false shepherds.
@scroogemcduckismyspiritanimal
@scroogemcduckismyspiritanimal Ай бұрын
​@@jdotoz the indoctrination at public colleges is pushed hard. They won't be any better off even with the mindset "well at least it's not co fusing because its not sanctioned by a church school" Look up the Newman List of Catholic colleges. There are some truly excellent ones. Franciscan, Benedictine, University of Dallas, University of Mary, and a few others I'm forgetting
@shepherddog1199
@shepherddog1199 Ай бұрын
​@@jdotozFranciscan at Steubenville
@malice836
@malice836 2 жыл бұрын
This priest was promoted at my parish is Seattle and NW region to join a seminar on Catholic approach to racism. I was shocked at this promotion based on what he was promoting. Straight from the secular “word speak” and philosophy. Totally heretical. Thanks for bringing this subject up and this “priests” ideas. He needs to be exposed and stopped within the Catholic Church. Trent, take a look at some of these seminars available on KZfaq. Truly shocking and disturbing from a Catholic perspective.
@cjgodley1776
@cjgodley1776 2 жыл бұрын
I have been following the activity of this priest for many years online. He has written numerous articles laced with freemasonic languge and has done this for years.
@mebenn3382
@mebenn3382 2 жыл бұрын
@@cjgodley1776 why doesn't that surprise me
@kadeshswanson3991
@kadeshswanson3991 2 жыл бұрын
That's the Seattle archdiocese for ya. Also the reason why I left St. Michaels parish in Olympia to become byzantine Catholic
@TickleMeElmo55
@TickleMeElmo55 2 жыл бұрын
@@cjgodley1776 That's the sad part. Most likely Fr. Horan is known to some degree in the US and even in Western Europe in Catholic circles. No one does anything because most likely those in charge or see him are of the "Spirit of VII" types.
@TitusFlavius11
@TitusFlavius11 2 жыл бұрын
Why people like this become priests, I will never know.
@birgittabirgersdatter8082
@birgittabirgersdatter8082 2 жыл бұрын
Guaranteed employment and a good retirement plan.
@csongorarpad4670
@csongorarpad4670 2 жыл бұрын
They're weasels, looking to find a secure and "chill" employment with a reliable retirement plan
@andytheawesome7592
@andytheawesome7592 2 жыл бұрын
Because they want to be the next Gandhi or Mandela or something, and think they can singlehandedly save the oppressive institutional Church from its outdated bigotry (by teaching heterodoxy). And so they become priests to try and rework the system from within.
@T_frog1
@T_frog1 2 жыл бұрын
Read Taylor Marshall's book "Infiltration".
@Qwerty-jy9mj
@Qwerty-jy9mj 2 жыл бұрын
They actively want to undermine the Church
@Jerds
@Jerds 2 жыл бұрын
This is what happens when the Church starts doing things to try to fit in with the world instead of promoting the truth and allows snakes inside. I bet this priest isn’t the only one. Sad sad sad
@therese6447
@therese6447 2 жыл бұрын
If the Church does that it becomes Episcopalian...LOL...but the Church will never fall...the gates of hell will NOT prevail...but sinners in the Church will cause drama, chaos, and confusion....they will not prevail because Christ wins.
@jd3jefferson556
@jd3jefferson556 2 жыл бұрын
In this case snakes are literally being allowed into the Church. Lol
@jd3jefferson556
@jd3jefferson556 2 жыл бұрын
@Patrick Reynolds bro great advice! I too often say Christ will win, but you're right, He's already won
@Regular_Pigeon
@Regular_Pigeon 2 жыл бұрын
@Patrick Reynolds I've never heard of that. Any references/works in particular for a deeper dive?
@Regular_Pigeon
@Regular_Pigeon 2 жыл бұрын
@Patrick Reynolds Thanks!
@ModernPapist
@ModernPapist 2 жыл бұрын
The first problem was publishing this in the Reporter. Where are the bishops when it comes to reigning in these ideas? It is one thing to debate within an intellectual circle, it is another thing to promote it like this to an already poorly catechized population. Thank you for this video Trent!
@malice836
@malice836 2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree! Where are the Bishops. So much of this nonsense is getting put out by these “priests”. Richard Rohr is another heretic. They should be silenced or leave the priesthood. I’m tired of the lackadaisical control of these men’s (and) women using the Catholic name to promote these ideas. Step up Bishops. It’s your job.
@mattbernacki9282
@mattbernacki9282 5 ай бұрын
Forget where I saw it, but the Bishop of the Diocese where NCR is based has revoked their ability to use Catholic in their title but they are in defiance of him. I agree though, bishops should do more all over the place in calling this terrible evil out.
@gussetma1945
@gussetma1945 2 жыл бұрын
They lie and they insist that we lie. The Church does call lying a sin.
@giacomofilosofia
@giacomofilosofia 2 жыл бұрын
It's all so tiresome... This is like a scientist having to publicly explain, over and over again why the sky is blue and not bright purple
@mikegski7943
@mikegski7943 2 жыл бұрын
A second generation of Richard Rohr. Franciscan and a wolf in sheep's clothing.
@humphreyobanor866
@humphreyobanor866 2 жыл бұрын
God bless you Trent for all you do
@zwijac
@zwijac 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone here should know, in case there are people who don't.... Father Casey from the KZfaq channel "Breaking In The Habit" is a close friend of Father Dan Horan. Father Casey shares all the same beliefs. He refuses to denounce any of them but he is very nuanced in his approach..... many faithful Catholics watch Breaking In The Habit and don't realize.
@MrJustintreat
@MrJustintreat 2 жыл бұрын
That's unfortunate. I enjoy father Casey's insight on "upon fryer review"
@mebenn3382
@mebenn3382 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the information
@carolynkimberly4021
@carolynkimberly4021 2 жыл бұрын
Not surprised.
@ntmn8444
@ntmn8444 2 жыл бұрын
Wait…what? No he doesn’t. No way. I watch all his videos. He’s never done a James Martin.
@ruairioneill1601
@ruairioneill1601 2 жыл бұрын
I think trent wanted to discuss with fr casey about the show choosen he refused I wonder why?
@menotworking
@menotworking 2 жыл бұрын
The best point I took away from this is the analogy that you should not affirm a thin anorexic person's false belief that they are grossly overweight. That is not loving, that is obviously harmful.
@thorobreu
@thorobreu 2 жыл бұрын
As soon as Jurassic Park was mentioned I knew a Jeff Goldblum impersonation was imminent
@jhoughjr1
@jhoughjr1 2 жыл бұрын
My pronouns are sire/his majesty/your eminence
@Chamindo7
@Chamindo7 2 жыл бұрын
heh heh
@heliantaflores933
@heliantaflores933 2 жыл бұрын
i actually always say "your majesty" when people ask for my pronouns. they don't love it.
@Tttb95
@Tttb95 2 жыл бұрын
@@heliantaflores933 Thats because they are transphobic bigots who dont respect your gender identity ;)
@petralincoln9503
@petralincoln9503 2 жыл бұрын
😁
@jrm_mrj2075
@jrm_mrj2075 2 жыл бұрын
"M'Lord" will be sufficient
@soulcutterx13
@soulcutterx13 2 жыл бұрын
The problem is that misgendering a Bishop wouldn't just be offensive, it'd be confusing, and would lead to people believing YOU were addled in the brain. If someone complained about Sr Mary I'd not know who they meant. If they called a Bishop "she" I'd think they were genuinely mistaken or possibly talking about some weird Episcopalian thing.
@volusian95
@volusian95 2 жыл бұрын
It's astounding and honestly scary how someone with these easily refutable and honestly quite dumb arguments could have been given a doctorate in systematic theology.
@colepriceguitar1153
@colepriceguitar1153 2 жыл бұрын
Shows that the teaching authority of the Catholic Church is not infallible.
@jamesleman3339
@jamesleman3339 Жыл бұрын
@@colepriceguitar1153 Getting doctorates in systematic theology never was infallible, nor does the Church claim that it's infallible. Only very particular documents can be called infallible in Catholicism. Our dear nut-priest Trent so soundly refutes does not represent Catholic Church teaching at all. Infallible Church teaching only includes very specific documents released by the Pope about once every hundred years or so (more sometimes depending on the time period). This priest is definitely not covered by it; nor is his doctorate.
@cameronoleary3916
@cameronoleary3916 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like this priest would try to ordain a woman claiming that she was a guy
@thomasjorge4734
@thomasjorge4734 2 жыл бұрын
Their Pre-Ferred Pro-Nouns are: Me, My-Self and I, The Un-Holy Trinity.
@LookHereLookListen69
@LookHereLookListen69 2 жыл бұрын
I remember having Fr. Horan at my CINO college for two Masses of the Holy Spirit during my Freshman and Junior years. He seemed okay the first time but he started to get kinda woke my Junior year. I will say, though, since he started to get publicly woke on social media, he hasn't been back. I'm thinking maybe someone put a word in to the school to have them stop (Bishop maybe or a shareholder fearful of losing any kind of diocesan support). Also, I'm almost certain his particular OFM Province was heavily sponsored by ex-Cardinal Theodore McCarrick. Coincidence?
@Chamindo7
@Chamindo7 2 жыл бұрын
Franciscan, definitely does not mean what it once did. May God have mercy on Fr Horan's soul. I'm a new Catholic and am stunned at this kind of stuff within Mother Church. The Bride's dress certainly seems torn and besmirched, thankfully Christ deeply loves His Bride even when she falls in the mud of modernism. Thank You Jesus. Sanguis Christi, miserere nobis. Deus Vult
@coachp12b
@coachp12b 2 жыл бұрын
You seemed thrilled to talk about this. 😂 The National Catholic Distorter along with America Magazine are bastions of heterodoxy.
@MrCheesywaffles
@MrCheesywaffles 2 жыл бұрын
Lol @ "Bran", it's a very old name, found in Old Welsh and Irish myths and histories. You're spot on about the golden rule: any Christian should want to be reconciled to the Lord, so must want the truth in all things. Well addressed overall.
@AJKPenguin
@AJKPenguin 2 жыл бұрын
Gives new meaning to Bran Flakes. ; )
@jamesbaker9337
@jamesbaker9337 2 жыл бұрын
Where are the Bishops when these heretical claims come forth? Pray for God to give us Godly Bishops.
@eugengolubic2186
@eugengolubic2186 2 жыл бұрын
If someone wants to misgender ne because I "do it", aren't those people, according to them, engage in unchristian and sinful behaviour?
@CatholicismRules
@CatholicismRules 2 жыл бұрын
So if Fido finds himself in the communion line, I wonder what this Priest would do.
@rolandovelasquez135
@rolandovelasquez135 2 жыл бұрын
This guy is absolute nuts and he's probably never seen this; God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them. Genesis 1:27
@TickleMeElmo55
@TickleMeElmo55 2 жыл бұрын
@YAJUN YUAN You're using that word in a way that it wasn't meant to be used.
@martinmartin1363
@martinmartin1363 2 жыл бұрын
Donkey sanctuaries and animal sanctuaries etc etc,should not exist unwanted animals should be put to sleep, the money saved on their upkeep should be spent on mankind, we treat animals like humans and prefer them to having children.
@l21n18
@l21n18 2 жыл бұрын
Ok there Martin, keep having families with 8 children in first world countries whole millions died of starvation
@martinmartin1363
@martinmartin1363 2 жыл бұрын
Ok then go to the first or third world countries and stop them having 8 children per family 🤣🤣🤣😂,good luck with that, and once again thanks for the laughs
@sfappetrupavelandrei
@sfappetrupavelandrei 2 жыл бұрын
A miscalled a bishop multiple times. I called him Father X. instead of Bishop X. and he didn't seem to mind. So, done that but it had no effect.
@Mike-bn7kr
@Mike-bn7kr 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic show. Do more of this.
@matthewcruz1709
@matthewcruz1709 2 жыл бұрын
I started watching that priest when he first started posting on YT but VERY quickly backed out…
@exerciserelax8719
@exerciserelax8719 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know how anyone can read scripture and find it compatible with a strong animal rights view. From animal sacrifice to Jesus sending demons into pigs, animals are consistently portrayed as creatures that can be used as means to an end, which is inconsistent with personhood. There are verses that say nice things about them (his eye is on the sparrow), but they're never on the same level as humans.
@lynnkramer1211
@lynnkramer1211 2 жыл бұрын
My given name is Lynn and I am married to Tracey. Many people in the course of my life have mistaken our genders, and assumed that I am a wife and Tracey must be a husband when they have it backwards. I don't get upset when this mistake is made. No one has meant to hurt me or my wife so why should I find offense where none is intended?
@ntmn8444
@ntmn8444 2 жыл бұрын
You’re not mentally ill tho.
@TickleMeElmo55
@TickleMeElmo55 2 жыл бұрын
Good for you. Sometimes people just get upset over anything, especially if it's a trending social issue that they may relate to them to some degree. In the UK, the name Ashley is unisex, where many boys have it as their name. In the US, Ashley is predominately seen as a girls name. Lynn and Tracey are also unisex names in the US, though not as common. I am a non-white where my complexion is sometimes mistaken for Chinese, Mexican, or Japanese. I am neither of those. I do not get upset when strangers guess my ethnicity incorrectly.
@reginapontes5672
@reginapontes5672 2 жыл бұрын
You're making perfect sense to me Trent.
@joelfrombethlehem
@joelfrombethlehem 2 жыл бұрын
For me, animals have temperament, not "personality."
@ViscountDI
@ViscountDI 2 жыл бұрын
I guarantee that this priest is a "James Martin"-type
@sinfall5280
@sinfall5280 Жыл бұрын
“We shouldn’t try to make people happy Because that’s the happy march to hell” 👌👌👌
@n.g.6824
@n.g.6824 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much Trent, for the work you do to teach and defend the truth of Catholic faith! God bless you and your family always!
@newglof9558
@newglof9558 2 жыл бұрын
Nominalism and its consequences...
@danielburton1046
@danielburton1046 2 жыл бұрын
Good call!
@newglof9558
@newglof9558 2 жыл бұрын
@YAJUN YUAN more a conceptualist, I was thinking of William of Ockham
@michaelverde4844
@michaelverde4844 2 жыл бұрын
I can't believe that these colleges refer to themselves as Catholic and priests like Fr. Dan Horan and Fr. James Martin. They are definitely not aligned with Roman Catholic catechism. So sad! Our Lady pray for us! Sacred Heart of Jesus have Mercy on us! 🙏🏼
@DeannaWillistonOFS
@DeannaWillistonOFS 2 жыл бұрын
Helpful if you say what kind of Franciscan friar- OFM (Friar Minor) . Also, thank you for clarifying St. Francis’ relationship with animals.
@bethanyann1060
@bethanyann1060 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, I’m a former teacher and I’ve seen more than one student named Abcde. 😒
@johnmb69
@johnmb69 2 жыл бұрын
This was a good episode, but I just listened to the "Free For All Fridays" one with your two boys. Hilarious. Enjoy them while they're still so young. :)
@emmanuelakpobolokemi7663
@emmanuelakpobolokemi7663 2 жыл бұрын
Very good insight. The layman has very deep insight on reality, but the priest of God, who is supposed to be a spiritual and moral guide is living under the diabolical disorientation of the devil. Let’s pray for the shepherds to see clearly. There is too much darkness.
@carissahanson9887
@carissahanson9887 2 жыл бұрын
How come babies in the womb don’t get personhood when the definition of a fetus is offspring , Child I thought humans were persons. Now we are arguing to give personhood to animals before we can give it to babies in the womb. Mind you I love animals so much but I realize that animals can be a tool to help you socially in life you must also love the human.
@martinospitaletta8198
@martinospitaletta8198 2 жыл бұрын
If persons are entitled to have sex, then both human an non human persons are allowed to have sex. Together. It is only a short distance from sodomy to sodomy.
@JoshJimenez_
@JoshJimenez_ 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Trent Horn
@SammyJ..
@SammyJ.. 2 жыл бұрын
National Schismatic Reporter
@matthewvelazquez2013
@matthewvelazquez2013 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Mr. Horn. They'll let anyone become a Franciscan these days.
@halleylujah247
@halleylujah247 2 жыл бұрын
Great show. 🐺
@Robert-bm2jr
@Robert-bm2jr 2 жыл бұрын
Priests need to stop assuming that they can determine what is and is not sinful. The virtue of their office does not afford them some special privilege by which they can substitute their own ideology for the mind of God. God is eternal. He does not change for our time. We need to orient our thinking to his will.
@Mish844
@Mish844 2 жыл бұрын
funny, given that this is the exact thing that apologists, including Trent, do. Scratch that, it's the foundation of their actions.
@TickleMeElmo55
@TickleMeElmo55 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mish844 Have any proof of what you say? Seems to me you're rather fascinated by Horn despite disagreeing with him and other "apologists." Let me ask you, are you a Catholic?
@Mish844
@Mish844 2 жыл бұрын
@@TickleMeElmo55 I am fascinated. Or at least interested, because as much as disinterested as I wish I was, this kind of christian fundamentalism is a poison that spills over USA and reaches the most antiintellectual circles even in Europe, emboldening most depraved catholics even here, in Europe. And Trent's ideology isn't exactly hidden. His entire channel is made, to my knowledge, to further interests of christian apologetics. It's about as clear as ideology activism can get, even if limited to internet. No, I'm not. Not anymore, I left the church around a decade ago. My occasional presence here is out curiosity.
@TheLincolnrailsplitt
@TheLincolnrailsplitt 2 жыл бұрын
New Ager Fr Richard Rohr OFM is the trail blazer for such heterodox nonsense. I love the Francisn order (OFM) and dearly hope it doesn't succumbed to radical progressivism and militant social justice.
@fabianagco5902
@fabianagco5902 2 жыл бұрын
"Let's stick to saint and apostle names" says Trenton. We'll have to fast-track you to make that possible for future Trents. ;)
@dbnnebraska9819
@dbnnebraska9819 2 жыл бұрын
This video is TrenTons of fun!
@MG-vy7od
@MG-vy7od 4 ай бұрын
As a Franciscan, is it possible to request that Fr. Horan adopts a consistent ideological framework for identifying himself as a specific kind of Franciscan to avoid inadvertently associating the rest of us with his views?
@michaellancaster8221
@michaellancaster8221 2 жыл бұрын
Fr Daniel “James Martin Jr” Horan 🙄
@AJKPenguin
@AJKPenguin 2 жыл бұрын
NCReporter was once a reputable newspaper. And the Franciscans aren't typically this heterodox but they always have had outliers. Uncertain how Lawrence of Brindisi, Bonaventure, Padre Pio, and Francis of Assisi would say if they were in his monastery. The balderdash makes the Jesuit order look sane and, contrary to accurate stereotypes, a lot of SJ is on good footing with orthodoxy; it's not necessarily back to the roots of the order, before and during suppression, but we'll take it in stride. One day the heterodox of that order will not have power or platform; it probably won't happen in my lifetime but here's to orthodoxy.
@markoh6641
@markoh6641 2 жыл бұрын
02:07 "A less romantic way to put it would be: We are nuclear waste" - lol
@thedivinenames3325
@thedivinenames3325 2 жыл бұрын
Will the real Francis of Assisi please stand UP! 😂 So good!
@writerblocks9553
@writerblocks9553 2 жыл бұрын
I am amazed this video had to be made
@Michael-bk5nz
@Michael-bk5nz 2 жыл бұрын
The crazy thing about this is how quickly it creeped up on us, consider, the sitcom Scrubs from the 00's was without any doubt a sitcom with a generally left wing point of view, and a running joke on that show was Doctor Cox calling JD, John Dorian, by girl's names, in every episode, he calls him by a different female name, it was a hilarious bit, but today it would be called 'misgendering' and condemned as hate speech
@kainosktisis777
@kainosktisis777 2 жыл бұрын
If you think that’d be totally un-PC, try many of the old sitcoms & cartoons of the past…All in the Family comes to mind…&…I still love the old shows. Throw in Last Man Standing…
@Michael-bk5nz
@Michael-bk5nz 2 жыл бұрын
@@kainosktisis777there is certainly a lot that the modern woke left finds offensive but my point is how quickly the standard changed. Another example of a left leaning show that is now "offensive" is Friends
@kainosktisis777
@kainosktisis777 2 жыл бұрын
@@Michael-bk5nz Seriously..? 😳 Friends is offensive now…? 😳 I’m starting to think I’ve lived too long…
@Michael-bk5nz
@Michael-bk5nz 2 жыл бұрын
@@kainosktisis777 Creator Martha Kauffman has recently been going in an "apology tour" apologizing for the alleged 'racism and transphobia" in the show. It is "racist" because all of the main 6 characters are white, even though they were clearly cast not due to their race but for their chemistry and how well they played off each other. The "transphobia" refers to the jokes about Chandler's dad being a gay transvestite, and the "misgendering" of him as male, even though the show never at any point implied that he was transgender, he was just a transvestite
@kainosktisis777
@kainosktisis777 2 жыл бұрын
@@Michael-bk5nz 😳 “The world with its feet planted firmly in midair…”
@Chakra_king
@Chakra_king 2 жыл бұрын
Fe Daniel Horan is one of those pretentious Franciscans that scarcely wears the habit because “it’s not what St Francis would’ve done if he was in our time” He also fiercely criticised the Church teaching on sexuality when the Vatican wrote against blessing of gay unions
@mattyp3358
@mattyp3358 2 жыл бұрын
22:30 “Wide and broad is the narrow path.” 😂😂😂 Great channel tho
@alexramirez5702
@alexramirez5702 2 жыл бұрын
fr. dan horan gave a talk at my university about climate change and racism, and it was an utterly depressing experience. he is a decent person, but so wrong about our faith and is truly a disgrace that others think he represents our faith
@RickW-HGWT
@RickW-HGWT 2 жыл бұрын
So how can he be a decent person , while abusing his office and title for his own agenda ? how many souls has this "decent person " led astray by his deliberate incompetence ?.
@alexramirez5702
@alexramirez5702 2 жыл бұрын
he just seems like a kind and genuine person, but obviously leading others a stray is horrible. i'm not trying to defend what he says, but he is just a person that has yet to encounter the full truth of Christ
@TickleMeElmo55
@TickleMeElmo55 2 жыл бұрын
He's an academic friar so it comes to no surprise he has survived this long.
@chrisvandermerwe7111
@chrisvandermerwe7111 2 жыл бұрын
Great job T-Ho!
@marklizama5560
@marklizama5560 2 жыл бұрын
On the topic of names, I'm thinking of naming one of my future daughters "Bllanca," but only if I am successful in my move to Chile where it'll be pronounced right; I'm naming this possible future daughter thus, because it would be closer to the meaning of the name Bianca which is "white," "blanca" in Spanish.
@katiedid8192
@katiedid8192 10 ай бұрын
Thank you Trent for bringing some sensibility to Father’s article. I have 2 cats that I love very much. I jokingly say they are Catholic because they really know how to throw on the guilt after I return from a trip. 😂 Yes we need to respect animals. Too bad that some in society cannot show the same respect to humans that they show to animals.
@davidbates3353
@davidbates3353 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for pointing out the real reason for the Saul --> Paul change!
@jimmydavid1993
@jimmydavid1993 2 жыл бұрын
@YAJUN YUAN makes no sense, out of context question
@jimmydavid1993
@jimmydavid1993 2 жыл бұрын
@YAJUN YUAN that is a debate that can be addressed without reference to Simon, unless you have other hidden agenda, since Trent made no reference or suggest any parallel or any generalisation on name change.
@jimmydavid1993
@jimmydavid1993 2 жыл бұрын
@YAJUN YUAN in that case your reference to Simon was needless. Meanwhile, if you disagree with Trent offer your arguments. in Acts 9:17, Ananias refers to him as Saul after his conversion. Later in Acts 13:2, the Holy Spirit addresses him as Saul before he sets off on his first missionary trip. In fact, he is referred to as Saul 11 times after his conversion. It is when he sets out from Jerusalem in Acts 13:13 that the gospel author Luke begins to refer to him as Paul - which is in fact, the version of the Hebrew name “Saul.”
@mickyfrazer786
@mickyfrazer786 2 жыл бұрын
Bran while possibly not common is an old celtic name. The old mythical king of origin was Bran the Blessed
@suburbanbanshee
@suburbanbanshee 2 жыл бұрын
Yup, Bran means "raven." Besides Bran the Blessed, there are a ton of other older Welsh given names that use the "Bran" particle.
@flordelizajackman9537
@flordelizajackman9537 2 жыл бұрын
Hello, Trent! Thank you so much for what you do. I really enjoy your videos. I was just talking to my husband and he was talking about the bema seat of Christ and I dont know what Catholics say about that. Could you please say something about it? Thank you in advance, I would really be grateful. My husband is nondenominational. ❤️🙏
@Corolla97ww
@Corolla97ww 2 жыл бұрын
So much common sense from Trent again.
@nomareis
@nomareis 4 ай бұрын
The Counsel of Trenton
@sharondavidson7412
@sharondavidson7412 2 жыл бұрын
LOL, I always refer to Fr Horan as the Franciscan Fr Martin as well. 😆
@carolynkimberly4021
@carolynkimberly4021 2 жыл бұрын
Elizabeth Johnson must be 80 by now. She is one of the original nuns on a bus feminists. What's sad is that modern theologians take her seriously.
@NonNisiTeDomine24
@NonNisiTeDomine24 2 жыл бұрын
Oh, Franciscans.. where has your mission gone? So many priests focus on this nonsense while there are so many who are struggling with something real. Arguing about this kind of garbage discredits the Church
@martinmartin1363
@martinmartin1363 2 жыл бұрын
Eastern mysticism has invaded the thinking of the Catholic Church since Thomas Merton and pope Francis has promoted his views and opinions on eastern mysticism in the Catholic faith
@l21n18
@l21n18 2 жыл бұрын
How?
@martinmartin1363
@martinmartin1363 2 жыл бұрын
@@l21n18 Really!!!! Your answer is how 😂😂😂🤣👍thanks for the laughs.
@asdfasdf3989
@asdfasdf3989 2 жыл бұрын
What is wrong specifically?
@martinmartin1363
@martinmartin1363 2 жыл бұрын
@@asdfasdf3989 Jesus is the way the truth and the life and nobody can go to heaven except through Jesus, eastern mysticism has nothing to do with Jesus and therefore eastern mysticism is demonic in nature. There is no salvation outside of the catholic and apostolic church.
@asdfasdf3989
@asdfasdf3989 2 жыл бұрын
@@martinmartin1363 What specific teachings that came from Thomas Merton are contradicting this?
@R.C.425
@R.C.425 2 жыл бұрын
Mother Mary, pray 🙏 for all our clergy,
@caedanjennings
@caedanjennings 2 жыл бұрын
Names I understand depending on the reason for change. This guy is a quake he is so woke it is sad. He needs to be disciplined. It’s so infantile. The Pope should do something however I fear it would be in the affirmative of these people….We need to pray desperately for the Church and the Pope.
@volusian95
@volusian95 2 жыл бұрын
Woa-oh Black Betty 0:16
@flowinproductions6416
@flowinproductions6416 2 жыл бұрын
Peter Singer's favorite priest!
@loganb1700
@loganb1700 2 жыл бұрын
I am from Kansas City and I hate that NCR is headquarted here. Frustrates me
@michellemcdermott2026
@michellemcdermott2026 2 жыл бұрын
NCR needs Catholic removed from its name
@EpoRose1
@EpoRose1 2 жыл бұрын
Two bishops asked them to- Bishop Charles Helmsing in 1968 and Bishop Finn in 2013.
@cardinalbubxiii803
@cardinalbubxiii803 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t want to live on this planet anymore
@tlove9831
@tlove9831 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, God gave us creation to govern it wisely and for His glory ….He show how much God love us!!!
@carolynkimberly4021
@carolynkimberly4021 2 жыл бұрын
All heresy starts with something true.
@jhoughjr1
@jhoughjr1 2 жыл бұрын
I've never thought of my name as something I get to choose. Names are something for other people.
@jacintowilliamson5597
@jacintowilliamson5597 Жыл бұрын
I like fr. Richard Rohr and fr. Dan Horan's material.... really good stuff
@ATageH
@ATageH 2 жыл бұрын
Is there a link to the study showing that depression among LGBT people has increased over the past few years including in countries that are very accepting of them?
@carolynkimberly4021
@carolynkimberly4021 2 жыл бұрын
Look them up. "Trans" are at the top of the list but all sexually confused people suffer from low self esteem and depression.
@watermelontreeofknowledge8682
@watermelontreeofknowledge8682 2 жыл бұрын
This is not orthodox. Genesis says God has given us dominion over the plants and the animals of the earth
@MFVyoshinator7
@MFVyoshinator7 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for speaking about these topics. I have a difficult time with the "preferred pronouns" and all that stuff because I really don't want to be rude/hurtful or get called out for not being "inclusive, etc", but I don't want to seem like I'm accepting of the concept when I know a person's gender. I don't know how to navigate those situations. How do I be compassionate and loving while still staying firm in the truth like Jesus?
@JohnBoyX570
@JohnBoyX570 2 жыл бұрын
Pray for the gifts of discernment, courage, and charity. Ask for the Holy Spirit when put in this situation. Most importantly, stand for the truth, no matter how uncomfortable.
@charmanderlover6433
@charmanderlover6433 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the clarification, Trent. I am a first year college student and my school has been pushing the use of preferred pronouns and names since the first day I came for orientation. It's really, really uncomfortable, especially since I have mental wounds from my "best friend" attacking me in middle school because I did not agree with the LGBTQ stuff. Just a couple years ago, another close friend of mine started struggling with gender dysphoria, and is going down the path. This topic is just really sensitive to me, and is usually a huge can of worms, but I need to know: how do I handle people wanting to be called something that they are clearly not? I feel as though if I use the names or preferred pronouns, I am affirming these poor people in their illusion and supporting that type of lifestyle. How can I be truly respectful to these people the way Christ is? Do I use the names and pronouns? Do I not? How can I talk to them in such a way where they all won't immediately get defensive and go off? If you have a couple moments to respond, I would really appreciate it.
@perezemail3433
@perezemail3433 Жыл бұрын
Use their preferred name and think of it as a nickname. Honestly, how many times do you actually call your friends by name? for me, never. Start calling everyone by their last name if you're just completely confused and uncomfortable--treat everyone equally. If their gender identifier bothers you, just don't use she/he. Trent says to even use 'they'
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