Problems With The Cheapest Air Bag Suspension?

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3 жыл бұрын

Going over some of the issues that I've had with the bagged Mercedes W126. I bagged this 300 SDL with the cheapest parts I could find and of course that means I ran into a couple failures. Namely the scary situation of a ptc fitting blowing out the line... twice.
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Bags - www.ebay.com/itm/4-2500-lb-Ai...
Compressor - www.ebay.com/itm/Chrome-Air-C...
Tank - www.ebay.com/itm/5-Gallon-Bla...
Line - www.ebay.com/itm/50-FT-1-4-OD...
Paddle Valves - www.ebay.com/itm/2-Manual-Pad...
Bag Fittings - www.ebay.com/itm/Air-Suspensi...
Tank Fittings - www.ebay.com/itm/3-8-NPT-MALE...
PTC Tee Fittings - www.ebay.com/itm/5-pcs-T-shap...
Mounting Cup DIY Kit - www.ebay.com/itm/Air-Ride-Sus...

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@DukeManlyMakes 3 жыл бұрын

I'm planing on bagging my project car, thank you for "project honesty." Too many channels act like their projects go seamlessly and it's a little disheartening.

@wideband 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you, I got a good video coming out on these cars soon, don't miss it!

@nutterireland Жыл бұрын

Do you need to get shorter shocks when you get air ?

@xoxo98808 3 жыл бұрын

Your merc is the best project car on yt! The budget build content is great!

@wideband 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks dude, more to come!

@802Garage 3 жыл бұрын

Oh it doesn't go up nearly as slow as I was expecting from what you said. Not bad at all. Holy crap that free Rabbit is a good one. That's the beefiest back seat I've ever seen. You should be able to add some rear sound deadening to dull the compressor noise a bit. Def happy to see more vids.

@wideband 3 жыл бұрын

Yep time for dynamat. Thought about it while editing the video.

@AaronBonBarron 3 жыл бұрын

So you've pretty much convinced me to install bags in my Toyota Tarago / Van. As soon as I work out a way to replace a torsion bar with an airbag lol

@wideband 3 жыл бұрын

Im sure there's a way haha sounds like more brain power than i have.

@david929190 3 жыл бұрын

Take the torsion bar out and grind the hex or splined end so it slips in the hole. Weld on an arm off the torsion bars now moving end and put an air bag between the new arm and something rigid.

@1stupidfish 3 жыл бұрын

That's actually a very respectable amount of time. The factory air ride system in Lincoln's and some Chevys take several minutes to go from empty up to standard ride height.

@hailtothe_rooster1572 2 жыл бұрын

Building what you want and dismissing the haters is what’s it’s all about… I’m after a certain stance not playing with switches. Burned out on that with hydraulics in the 90s

@TreyCFerg 2 жыл бұрын

“Clearly I’m the one winning here” 😂 I’ve enjoyed all of the videos.

@bigkeg9173 3 жыл бұрын

The fast drop is great. Lifting up is after the party, if you know what I mean. Great job, love it 👍

@wideband 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks man good way to look at things haha.

@ItsJoshN 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this series

@wideband 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your positive comment.

@mikeemery3962 3 жыл бұрын

Hi- great to see some good options here... You could mount the compressor on rubber mounts as the vibration is echoed into the area under the MDF

@rembertomartinez4457 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your video brother... You say your front fender stick, well just go ahead and roll your fenders they shoot work great after that. Keep them coming...

@syedahmed8067 2 жыл бұрын

This guy gets it. "My car goes up and down and I spent 600$." Enough said.

@232Stangpwr 3 жыл бұрын

Pretty dope! Not gonna lie I'm impressed. Subbed!

@Carsporttt 3 жыл бұрын

Bro. Thank you so much for the series. Ive got a 65 rambler marlin im gonna put on air Just like this. I was looking for an inexpensive way to do it. 👍👍

@wideband 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah if you wanna do it cheap this way definitely works, I think the only thing I found sketch was the PTC fittings and the plastic line. I am gonna switch to hard line for sure in the future and add some gauges.

@bigsquatchsasfoot1964 2 жыл бұрын

I can’t believe you bagged that merc for 600 bucks bro , wow that’s amazing and for it to work at all is a bonus. Screw the time going up and down I thought it was pretty damn respectable. I’ve been lead to believe this stuff cost many thousands and way out of most of our budgets but 600 bucks is so affordable. I’ve got a jag xf so might think about doing it now ! Much respect thanks man 🙏👍

@mathiasdankertsen9093 3 жыл бұрын

how does this only have 15k views? i love your content

@Sbflacko 3 жыл бұрын

I wanna buy a w126 just so I can bag it. Those cars just look so good and even better slammed

@cocomaster3755 3 жыл бұрын

I got the 12" VW Jetta Sportwagen and love to bag it keep it up!

@stevelozano9523 3 жыл бұрын

When I had mine, I switched out to 1/2" lines. Pretty quick. But I was using (2) 5 gal tanks and (2) compressors all hooked to (6) switches.

@kirk.818 3 жыл бұрын

That’s actually really good speed up and down. I’ve been in some cars with 1/2 - 3/4 inch lines the movement is to fast and not comfortable good money saving install

@ask4george1 3 жыл бұрын

You have a natural mechanical ability, I do also. I have a suggestion, on the drain plug, hook up another quick connector and run the line out side to the ground. I have a manual push button air release on mine. It's in the middle of the line. Just push it and water drains to the ground.

@CrystalClearSQL 2 жыл бұрын

Dude, you're a legend. Thank you!

@AstonThaRat 3 жыл бұрын

A little bit of silicone spray on the airline will help it slip past the o-ring inside the PTC fitting. Once there's air pressure going through the line I like to pull on the airline to ensure that the PTC fitting is gripping it like it should and make sure it can't blow off.

@TheSocialPraxis 7 ай бұрын

It came out great man. I didn't even know you could go that route you took. Add a second compressor for it to air up quicker. You could also heat up those fenders just a little and roll'em. These cars absolutely look great dropped like that. She just needs a good wash and detail. Maybe a replacement front light too lol. Cheers 🍻

@96t5wagon 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this cool project follow along

@DanielHernandez-gu1ku 3 жыл бұрын

Great video bro n do the vw with a roof rack and a kinda off roadish look I bet it would look dope

@OliVer-iy2jq 2 жыл бұрын

I must have watched this series 15 times mate Inspired me to bag my W124. The only difference I'm doing is I found an 8 port tank, and I'm running 1 feed to each corner, seens as your main complaint is the speed of airing up. Thanks for the information man, it's been really handy

@wideband 2 жыл бұрын

Get rear bags that can hold a shock through the center. Unless you want to relocate your rear shocks. Im still not 100 percent done with mine.

@OliVer-iy2jq 2 жыл бұрын

Cheers for the heads up mate but I already bought the bags, cups and rear shocks from a guy I follow on Instagram! He offered me the whole lot for £100, that and your series are basically what kick-started my project I've never seen that mentioned about having to relocate the rear shocks, will look into it!

@OliVer-iy2jq 2 жыл бұрын

Hey mate actually, while you're here, the actual reason I was watching the series for the 16th time The paddle switches, some have PTC fittings some are barbs, seems I can't get the PTC paddles over here in the UK, so I was relived to see you've used the barbed ones too Am I worrying about nothing thinking its risky just having a barb holding up to 200psi? Presume you've never had a problem?

@wideband 2 жыл бұрын

@@OliVer-iy2jq the barbs are an extremely tight fit. I have zero fear that a correctly installed line would come off. You have to use heat just to get the line all the way on. Honestly i have had 2 ptc fittings blow the line out and one that had a slight leak so I'm more weary of those.

@OliVer-iy2jq 2 жыл бұрын

Ah perfect cheers mate, that's put my mind at rest! I'll just go ahead and order the ones with barbs Regarding the rear shocks I did look into it and seems to be a W123 issue, the W124 is a separate shock and spring so I should be all good. Thanks again for the inspiration mate, sure I'll be watching it again as I work through mine

@allikidej832 Жыл бұрын

Can you go back through your parts list? Seems to be missing some Ebay stuff. Great content!

@outkastgarage868 3 жыл бұрын

Love the old school haggard shirt

@UsualVenus 3 жыл бұрын

hello thanks for posting!! i am confused on how can i make my car go up & Down faster. what are the best valves on a budget?? since i will be doing the FRONT ONLY on my 95 Chevrolet caprice Classic 9C1

@Garageless 3 жыл бұрын

I just put electric drain valve on my bagged s10 highly recommend!

@cameroncleeve3458 3 жыл бұрын

I’ve just brought a vw golf which is what the rabbit is called in Europe cannot waiting for you to bag it I’ve always wanted to do it

@154ride4life 2 жыл бұрын

Back again to check when the cool things are coming on the rabbit...

@kodkrazy4058 3 жыл бұрын

I have the same car...how's the ride quality on air?

@bluehairedlawyer8242 2 жыл бұрын

Is it possible I could put the bags on top or on the bottom of lowering springs?

@Sroor2023 Жыл бұрын

So how is the ride now is it more comfy 😅 Iam planning on this bought used one with 2 compressors will be fixed at the shop later this month cause Iam not free nowadays

@BackyardBandits 2 жыл бұрын

for the pinch spot in the back i would run some cut rubber hose. it will stop from chaffing the lines. just a tip ive learned

@eddiehernandez363 3 жыл бұрын

You’re bad ass bro now I want to bag my own car

@2011llb 10 ай бұрын

Where are u located I would like to see how much would u charge to install on a 1996 Cadillac Fleetwood

@jpjay1584 Жыл бұрын

you should add mechanical switches that shut off if it comes to the lowest point you need. front front and back separate of course. would be a mechanical sensor and you don't need to worry how low you go.

@boostedbenz 3 жыл бұрын

What dimensions of bags did you use?

@CruddyDriveway 3 жыл бұрын

u need a air line cutter essentially like a blade so it cuts right straight, i did mine with a blade tye best i could and really shoved it in the fitting

@nikhilmine 3 жыл бұрын

Waiting for air suspension fitting on VW rabbit. 👍

@andymitchell368 3 жыл бұрын

Nice one 👍

@philipgagne1852 Жыл бұрын

How is the actual ride quality on the bags?

@wwv 23 күн бұрын

1:50 when did you put a valve at each wheel? the valve is in the switch.

@dallas4616 3 жыл бұрын

Bro u gotta do rust repair on the MK5. It would be pretty good content

@djhewecko123 2 жыл бұрын

What psi do them bags hold max?

@JustinWilliams-no3ok 3 жыл бұрын

Hey bro if you want to make it quieter inside the car put some sound Detaner for the back side of the seat it will also make a cleaner sound for when you put those subs in

@samari240 3 жыл бұрын

how have you done the rear shockers? are they still there?

@wideband 3 жыл бұрын

Video on my rear shock setup coming soon

@falexandriia6290 3 жыл бұрын

i had that same leak with that drain plug lol

@johnpalmer415 2 жыл бұрын

What wheels are those???

@VeryMuchSaab 2 жыл бұрын

How is this holding up? (Pun intended) I'm considering bagging my 1984 w123 wagon. Currently there is no suspension, so I need bags or coilovers. Just trying to get some other opinions. Thanks!

@wideband 2 жыл бұрын

Still works good, main complaint is dealing with the cheap ptc line leaks and I if you can swing it go 2 compressors, a bigger tank, and some gauges.

@wideband 2 жыл бұрын

After doing it this way I would say just go springs/coils its easier.

@THIRSTYGUMS 3 жыл бұрын

great i want to see loads on the w126!

@wideband 3 жыл бұрын

Glad you're enjoying it, thanks! Definitely more to come.

@THIRSTYGUMS 3 жыл бұрын

@@wideband fantastic mate, I'm a Merc man myself, working on a w124 and a w114 now. I Def want a cheap cheerful bag set up for the w114

@THIRSTYGUMS 3 жыл бұрын

@@wideband keep up the great work

@jewel5038 6 ай бұрын

those 5 cylinders are great

@bigkeg9173 3 жыл бұрын

Is the Rabbit a V5 or a diesel?

@wideband 3 жыл бұрын

2.5 5 cylinder. Would love a tdi but it was free so I'm just lucky its stick.

@bigkeg9173 3 жыл бұрын

@@wideband the 2.5 was used in turbo Audis, great motor. It replaced the 2litre which I have in my Bora/Jetta I want a VR5 or VR6 motor cause they will take a turbo and sound sick....... VW fan here lol

@wideband 3 жыл бұрын

@@bigkeg9173 I'm leaning towards spraying this one with some nitrous.

@JCnordic2983 3 жыл бұрын

Get some .5" pvc and use as a conduit for that rear seat area

@JCnordic2983 3 жыл бұрын

Cut it in half and use it half round

@shevaughngolding490 3 жыл бұрын

Mount the compressor on rubber spacers

@RX7GSLSEowner 3 жыл бұрын

Found this bag-a-Mercedes-on-the-cheap series and watched all of the content with interest. I'm considering bagging my wife's Crown Victoria, which is also a heavy 4-door vehicle like yours, but all of the "kits" run around $2500 and up. Not sure that we want to invest that much in an air ride system, so your cheap approach drew my attention. I'd be interested in seeing the slightly-upgraded bagging of the VW, sure, as I would like to see which upgrades you would choose and whether or not they were worth it by comparison to what is on the W126. Anyway thanks.

@cheflife420 2 жыл бұрын

💪

@claudespeed4422 3 жыл бұрын

Gotta stretch the fenders

@wideband 3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely a future video, I have access to a fender roller as well.

@prettysus6039 2 жыл бұрын

The 9 dislikes are riding static.

@jorgepimentel4934 2 жыл бұрын

🔥🔥🔥🔥😎

@mrsir2378 2 жыл бұрын

Cups are too short up front. You're losing too much tank volume before the bag encounters any resistance from the car. If you're bags were completely flat at whatever height you want it to be at it's lowest then as soon as you start raising the vehicle every cubic inch of air is going towards lifting the vehicle and you're losing less pressure in your tank from equalization. Hope this helps. Just redo your bottom cups. Easy peasy.

@mrsir2378 2 жыл бұрын

You will also be at a lower psi at ride height offering you a smoother ride.