Production Basics 12: Stereo

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@BaseDesire 9 жыл бұрын

So glad for this tutorial. I was just sitting here thinking... jeeze what would the world be like without seamless... I feel very blessed to have this much knowledge available to me for free. You rock Seamless

@5bitcube 6 жыл бұрын

2:16 aaaaaaaaaahh what is he doing to my eaaaarssss, master seamless i surrendeeeeer

@howtomakeemusic 9 жыл бұрын

thanks!

@DisconnectedAutomaton 9 жыл бұрын

Dear SeamlessR, can you explain how in Skrillex's track "Dirty Vibe" the entire stereo field is a PERFECT diamond shape?

@nin10dorox 5 жыл бұрын

He probably applied some effect on the master that cut the volume down if the point was outside the diamond. (maybe some kind of limiting or distortion) But this isn't what you should go for if you want to make your song sound good.

@RevJ7 4 жыл бұрын

@@nin10dorox What does that mean? That song does sound good...

@nin10dorox 4 жыл бұрын

@@RevJ7 it does sound good, but not because of the diamond shape.

@ExitStrategies 4 жыл бұрын

Probably mid-side limits

@dumramlo3625 9 жыл бұрын

imo the first few seconds of the track "Ahab - Warrior Sound" are a great example of great stereo panning

@howtomakeemusic 9 жыл бұрын

The 'Oscillator Modulator' man hehe! :)

@eceptamusic 8 жыл бұрын

5:00 - 5:41 This is not true. That knob is not a fader between the mid - side signal but it changes the volume of the side signal. When you set the knob all the way to the right, it mutes the stereo information which is basically the same as only hearing the mid signal. But if you set it all the way to the left, it makes the side signal 6 db louder and you can still hear the mono information in the sound. You can test this by moving that knob all the way to the left on a completely mono sound, nothing happens. And if you do exactly the same with a completely stereo sound it just changes the volume :)

@9Tstep 9 жыл бұрын

Yes I can learn things again :) You make me enjoy learning stuff it's so awesome I love you :)

@ReedGustavsen 8 жыл бұрын

(19:36) that is really cool stuff Stephen, thanks for sharing your incredible knowledge as well as creative music.

@Stormfox93 9 жыл бұрын

Very interesting video. Great work!

@RmonikMusic 9 жыл бұрын

You made a very crucial mistake: Stereo collapsing as you described is actually EXACTLY the same as solo'ing the mid channel. Cause that's entirely the point of mid/side: The mid channel is the result of summing the left and the right channel together. Whereas the side channel is the result of subtracting them. I really wish you wouldn't have said that cause a lot of newbies think this too, when it really is the exact same thing.

@ID4rkStr 4 жыл бұрын

Graditude!! i thought i understood the concepts but i didnt completely -

@yeongmusicofficial 8 жыл бұрын

this is some next level shit. thank you

@BrownCookieBoy 9 жыл бұрын

In the wave candy, the frames are very high, but on my pc, that actually is very good, the frames are slow. How do you make it look smoother? it must be some kind of option ive missed :/

@jaennpoumian915 9 жыл бұрын

8:02 - 8:19 coughing, confuses the hell out of you. haha

@GinoZump 9 жыл бұрын

yeah it also would be helpful in terms of stereo to know which is good to put in mono and which instruments to be on the left/right or which frequencies should be left monaural and stuff like that. I know it all depends on the track and taste but I guess there are some standard production rules for that.

@DisconnectedAutomaton 9 жыл бұрын

GinoZump A general rule for most EDM is to keep everything below 100Hz OR 300Hz completely mono. 100Hz to 300Hz.

@DisconnectedAutomaton 9 жыл бұрын

GinoZump So most drum hits should be mono. Kick is definitely always mono. Sub bass is always mono. Snare is a bit left to the producer. Sometimes it can have a little stereo or be completely mono. You can also try multibanding the stereo in the snare. So only the peak of the snare is mono, and the higher frequencies have some stereo. Then add a nice but QUIET smacking short reverb under it helps for impact. :)

@mandokir 9 жыл бұрын

How does your mic not pick up any of what you're (we're) listening to?

@goodmorningcptn 8 жыл бұрын

haha sounds like something Rob would say, great tutorial mate!

@achromatic1 9 жыл бұрын

Seamless, great vid. What will happen with a big room track like "DVBBS - We Were Young" on big mono speakers? The version they have on Beatport has an extremely wide lead in the drop. I think it will have lots of phase cancellation issues, but this is the version most people play since it's the one that's being distributed. Songs like this get tons of plays in festivals, presumably on large mono speakers. So what am I missing here? Also, how can I collapse a track like that into mono inside FL to check for phase cancellation so I can avoid my track sounding like crap in a live setting? I've been wondering this for a long time. I have the same reservations with neuro basses/leads that have tons of chorus/phaser on them. One more question, how is "mono sum" related to this? Thanks for your time.

@DjangoFlaherty 8 жыл бұрын

+Rfl Volterra I use a plugin called A1StereoControl. It's free and aside from having a nice big Mono button, it also lets you widen or narrow the stereo width of the track, with a "safe bass" option to keep the low end mono.

@nethz1 9 жыл бұрын

Great video, but if i could just ask about 1 think about Haas effect. Is manually layering the exact same sound one hard panned left and the other right and changing the delay to 10ish somehow effective in widening mixes or is it better to use some stereoizers or other techniques instead.

@Rafaelinux 9 жыл бұрын

Nice video :) Offtopic, what do you think of the space the new UI takes? Is it too much?

@kaploon 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the amazing content. You could have easily charge 100$ for this video series on Udemy, but you gave it here for free. I really appreciate that! ❤️

@bearcat77899 9 жыл бұрын

SeamlessR could you do a Production Basics on distortion?

@GoldenRockefeller 8 жыл бұрын

So what exactly is all-side? The levels are the same so is it like the left and right outputs are completely out of phase?

@jorgdstro 5 жыл бұрын

Seamless can we automate stereo shape dynamics?

@p0schti 9 жыл бұрын

hey, can someone please explain to me how he changes the order of the effects in the mixer? like is there a shortcut like for example *alt+* for switching channels? thank you for your time and awesome video seamless! (:

@gsamarth97 9 жыл бұрын

***** Itz nt trak, it is the Effect Slot... Tnx, evn I ws searching fr this..

@kojik4271 5 жыл бұрын

20:00 sounds fucking bad ass when sped up

@uprize8943 8 жыл бұрын

does anyone know whats the difference between stereoize 1 2 and 3 and when to use each?

@uprize8943 8 жыл бұрын

Those are the stereo presets in the stereo shaper, but thanks for the advice anyways

@NickKing95 8 жыл бұрын

Thank you thank you thank you thank you

@smileychips6694 7 жыл бұрын

Can't you have a right and left speaker on each side of the stage??

@MichaelDavydoff 9 жыл бұрын

Wow! Seamless please invite Klayton of Celldweller in a new Production Basics=)

@noisetalgiamusic6480 9 жыл бұрын

He already did a video with him.

@MichaelDavydoff 9 жыл бұрын

Noisetalgia Music That's not enough

@Arbeta10000 9 жыл бұрын

Noisetalgia Music not a Production Basics video though :P

@bloodlord1989 9 жыл бұрын

What frequency ranges need to be mono( i herd under 300HZ should be mono in most cases for kicks or bass), part stereo/mono and is there a frequency range that should be only stereo or mostly stereo. This question is aimed more each instrument like a bass, a kick, a lead, pads .etc and not the whole mix itself since each instrument needs to have it's own specific stereo profile spectrally so they fit together before changing the stereo on frequencies of the whole track. I don't use samples either unless it's a real recording of live instruments like drums and never use presets so i have to make sure the sound design decisions i make on the stereo effect side of things don't clash with mixing.

@achromatic1 9 жыл бұрын

From what I gathered from the video, all of them should be in mono if you want your mix to be completely faithful to what you heard in your studio. Obviously this is not the case in practice, so the idea is to include some elements in stereo to get that stereo feel for headphone users. Once I read in a msg board that you only need 2 to 3 elements of one thing to convey a particular effect in a mix (like stereo elements). Also, I think that the higher the frequency, the more stereo separation you can get away with. But don't quote me on this.

@bloodlord1989 9 жыл бұрын

It's alot more complicated then just having stereo because certain instruments sound worst or better with more or less stereo on certain frequencies and stereo EQ curves. There is also more problems to deal with when it comes to stereo, but knowing the stereo hot spots on frequencies that sound best universally on most speakers is the most important one as much as having it sound good .

@Rushourist 9 жыл бұрын

basically you want your highs to be wide and bass to be mono ( hard to determine a specific frequency that should be mono), from my experience I can say that very often when you make 250-500 hz too stereo it can sound muddy very quickly, another good trick with leads and stereo width is to have several layers playing one rather mono and one stereo, in the high mids and treble it is always good to fill the whole stereo spectrum

@Ozterkvlt 9 жыл бұрын

Use your ears..........

@bloodlord1989 9 жыл бұрын

Ozterkvlt thats exactly what i do now. that post was old and i was hearing people giving out formulas on how stereo should be which silly.

@roey201 9 жыл бұрын

Gread vid.

@roey201 9 жыл бұрын

Very awesome

@roey201 9 жыл бұрын

Wow

@CariagaXIII 7 жыл бұрын

basically the delay in stereo enchancer can mess you up and think its actually your panning

@ReinZ_96 9 жыл бұрын

Great video Seamless :D Also, sorta off topic (okay completely off topic) but since you have your music on Spotify, what are your opinions on it? I'm currently arguing with people about the whole Taylor Swift pulling her albums off of Spotify and that music streaming is killing the industry. I'm totally for it and think it makes getting your music out there a million times easier, but wan't to hear a relatively unheard of producers opinion on it.

@SeamlessR 9 жыл бұрын

There are plenty of other things that are stifling the music industry, streaming isn't one of them. Besides, selling music is such a small part of my actual career ;p

@AveMcree 9 жыл бұрын

isnt hearing less of taylor swift a good thing?

@ReinZ_96 9 жыл бұрын

I never listen to her music anyway, just the fact that she pulled her music off of Spotify and basically said they are ruining the industry is absurd.

@AveMcree 9 жыл бұрын

DiscGolfer947 true... I always thought that terrible music and spoiled celebrities ruined the industry.... or more realistic not adjusting to technology killed them.... just the fact that information and platforms like youtube stoled they audience because people with talent like seamless can just exist without the strings

@AveMcree 9 жыл бұрын

***** true but even now taylor swift still manages to go platinum w/o problems unless the label faking her numbers.... hell even the frozen soundtrack managed to do numbers in a "terrible" music industry... my good friend Sermstyle produced a 20x platinum single with Ke$ha and Pitbull.. its all about the quality... Rap/hiphop is the biggest flop genre next to Rock (and that depends on the rock group)...