+Hilgert Bos No kidding. I was pretty sure I was tripping at 19:52.

i'm pretty certain this IS the best vedeo i have ever seen on FM

right hahah was about to comment that too

damn. This opened my eyes and my mind !

could you tell me about the square wave part ? He says minimum phase there is 0 and maximum is 360. I didn't quite get that. I know they're one and the same but I don't understand what exactly is he trying to say with the square wave.

@@abishekraju8787 basically the "|" oart of a square wave, a vertical slope, indicates an instantn change from minimum to maximum amplitude. And instant change means derivative equal to infinity, aka speed. So if we understood that pitch is dictated by value of derivative, we know that synth tries to do (for example) 450hz...9999999999hz 450hz, and that jump generates a click

@@abishekraju8787 and i think he is kinda wrong on that, as 360 degrees is a cycle thing. So a full wave is 360 deg, and when you are at 360 you are at the start of it again. Its the horizontal dimension, has little to do with the shape of a wave

@@cowbless Yeah I think so

+Tommy magic +1

that last part gives makes me wanna listen to your music

... and Dubstep producers are the necromancers that put their soul into learning as many of its manifestations as possible in order to torture the maximum amount of listeners and neighbors

Frustrated because you got terrible results or because you didn't get them? 🤣 😂

Try studying fm synthesis using modules in eurorack. A solid understanding of synthesis irrelevant of fruity loops might help you more once you use fruity loops with the plug in he's using.

justice phantom part 2*

true

***** Lol, the matrix is the only thing I do get about Sytrus xD

Yep, so many similar knobs that do totally different things all put together inside a giant block. You just gotta know which sections are responsible for what

A lot of this was based on past experiments and one guy who made a big comment on the old How To Bass 4 where I did more or less the same video only I didn't know about the whole phase business ;p

SeamlessR Oh cool. Well those articles go over all the analog synthesizers, specifically the Yamaha that you talked about, the way the oscillators passed through crv and amps, etc. www.soundonsound.com/sos/allsynthsecrets.htm There's the link if you or anyone care to check it out, as it goes super in-depth about FM, AM, and all the basics of waveforms, frequencies, harmonics, through both analog and digital.

+Zodiaddict I also read a couple of the sound on sound articles, I seriously recommend them too.

fuck you

That it has a total of 6 oscillators where every one can modulate every other at the same time using frequency and/or ring modulation at the same time

For your first edit, I believe this is correct. I assume it has to do with the fact that the waveform is controlling the phase. The rate at which the phase is changed determines the way the pitch is changed. If the phase of the carrier constant, there will be no pitch change (as in the square wave; there are two positions for the modulator, both of which are constant. Simply changing the phase of the carrier and keeping it that way won't affect the pitch (the click is from the speaker quickly trying to change the phase of the carrier immediately). The saw wave changes the phase of the carrier at a constant rate, which will change the pitch of the sound in a constant way (it lowers the frequency of the sound as the phase is being moved backwards as the waveform of the carrier). The triangle wave has two steps: a positive one (where the phase of the carrier is being "pushed" foreword, increasing its pitch) and a negative one (where the phase of the carrier is being "pulled" backwards, decreasing its pitch). Since the sine wave is infinitely differentiable, it will change the pitch in a way similar to the shape of the modulator itself.

In response to your first edit, frequency is d(phase)/dt, so you are absolutely right. The way these sounds are normally fit into a mix is with side-chain compression from the kick drum, so that the growl is reduced in volume when the kick hits. Also, a shallow (~6 dB per octave) low-pass or low-shelf might allow you to mix in cymbals. You will probably not be able to fit any mid-range instruments.

In case I have some crazy sounding screeches or basses that conquer the eintire sound spectrum, I usually go the Dubstep way and don't layer them with any other melodic instruments, but instead have small portions inside each bar where the melodies and chords stops to make the terrible FM stuff happen in between

Leo Bruzzaniti "I haven't done anything so complicated that you couldn't do with any other synth." A lot of people think Seamless talks too fast and is hard to understand, but I have never, not once, not understood or heard what he says, and clearly the first time. Im guessing the people who don't understand him right away may not be native English speakers? Just a theory I guess.

@miphisto55.. cheers for that, and yes good theory.

Test it out yourself with parametric eq :D

I'm not positive but I'm fairly certain every new note you play essentially starts a new instance of the synth and all of its operations. that's why polyphonic synths eat up a bunch of CPU the more notes you have. I think. don't take this as fact, it's just my guess.

That's basically how polyphonic synths work. However, LFOs tend to be shared, so they don't have to be recomputed. Each instance is called a 'voice', and all of the 'voices' are then added together. Unison also works like this.

RM which stand for ring modulation changes the volume of the sound by the wave form. So if you used a sine wave in the RM section your sound output would rise and fall in the shape of a sine wave. it's kinda like a LFO and volume knob mix. if you find the old video about FM synthesis (how to bass 8 i believe) he talks about it there.

ok thanks!

Yep, it's the polarity. Wether your triangle wave lookes like this /\/\ or like that \/\/

Seems to me that since the waveforms will have both positive and negative values, then instead of "volume" you might think of it as "influence"

Tarjei Sølvberg Maybe you figured it out already, but I had the same problem and fixed it. You need to start from the "Default" patch (which isn't the one that Sytrus loads with when you open it). Also make sure you're playing very low notes (between C0 and C1).

oh ok, thank you very much!

I don't think you can directly but an alternative that might work is automating the volume of the operator that is FMing another operator

Yes, you can do that: For your modulating operator (in Sytrus) go to the volume section and in either ModX or ModY (which should be a straight line always at the top initially) you gotta make a straight line from the bottom to the top. Then - in the Main tab - you gotta right-click you ModX- (or ModY-) knob and choose "Create Automation Clip" from the drop-down menu, as you would do for any other parameter. Voila, you got your FM volume automation clip!

If by that you mean modulating Amplitude instead of Frequency, that's exactly what the RM tab below Sytrus' matrix does. You do the exact same process, but instead of modulating the pitch, you modulate the volume.

Unnamed Medina Rudas Awesome! But what does RM stand for?

Quore Ring Modulation.

Thank you both :)

You're very welcome :D

If you haven't figured it out by now, I'm pretty confident he means sounds that are not musically pleasing at all and are very harsh and annoying to listen to. It's very easy to make sounds that just don't sound good musically at all and are very noisy and such.

probably really terrible and messy Dubstep basses and screeches

you could to a point. at about 45khz you'll get AA. People say the human ear cant hear past about 22khz, but i think that a even slightly trained ear could hear 45khz, not that it matters or is relevant to your question. TL;DR - once you reach half of 96khz you'll get anti-aliasing.

thanks for your answer! I'm gonna try it out then ^^

FabForceFour Pretty sure you wouldn't be able to get double the hearing range by just some slight training. You'd need to be a different animal for that. That said, you could still hear aliasing when the nyquist frequency is 45kHz, if the aliasing is intense enough to bounce back down to the human hearing range.

can someone give me a link where i can learn what aliasing and nyquist is ?

If you're running it on PC there are VSTs available. If you're running Mac there's an alpha for a mac VST of Harmor, I think. It isn't super stable, I've heard.

Damn ur quick. I'm a pc thanks. Have you seen Civants video on harmor its awesome

Yes it is. It's called jbridge, i use it, not so stabil, but still work :), By the way where can i find these Civants videos?

Phillip Morrison Savant???

Thanks i bought them last night.

You can.

+King Of The Arsenal I know. I swear I've learned more from KZfaq in the last 4 years than all 12 years of public school combined...

I'll take a stab at your question... It gives an operator a specific frequency and you can adjust that frequency using ratios. Octaves are in ratios of 1:2 or 2:1 (powers of two). Frequency ratio settings of 0.25, 0.5, 1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, and 64 give you the same note, but in different octaves. A major third is the 4th note above the base note in a chromatic scale. With 12 notes in a chromatic octave, the major 3rd is 4:12 or 0.25:1. If you have operator 1 output at a freq ratio of 1 and set operator 2 as its own output signal but at a freq ratio of 1.25, you will get a major 3rd chord. If we double the freq ratio for operator 1 and set it at 2, then we apply the ratio of 0.25:1 and set the freq ratio of operator to 2.5 to get the same major third chord. 0.5 is 1/4 of 2. Kind of a bad explanation but does that help?

hi

phase, actually, and it's the waveform's position in the spectrum of positive or negative. The best way to actually see and understand this is to look at your speaker cone. it wobbles, pushing waves through the air that you then hear. When it pushes out, that's positive phase, because the generator (whatever is making the electric signal that your speaker turns to something that can be interacted with by you) is sending out waves that oscillate between + and - very fast. So phase modulation is changing where the wave starts - perfect centre? Positive? Negative? It can also affect where the peaks are - the highest and lowest points on the wave - but that is different and irrelevant mostly to this. :)