Profitec Go Espresso Machine Unboxing + First Impression Compared to Gaggia Classic Pro

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Update: Many people are concerned about the pump's noise; it was noisy because the boiler was empty. Once the boiler was filled, the machine ran quiet as long as the top cover for the water reservoir was correctly secured. Total height clearance with a bottomless portafilter is 4.25" (108mm). Surface area of the drip tray is 8" (203mm) Wide x 6" (152mm) Deep.
I just bought the Profitec Go espresso machine today. The Go is a sizeable upgrade to my existing 3-year-old Gaggia Classic Pro, and it's just about the best a single boiler machine can offer before upgrading to a dual boiler or heat exchange machine. Handmade in Germany too, all for under $1000 MSRP before tax.
Check my second video in the series: Making first cup of latte using the Profitec Go • Profitec Go - Making A...
Pros:
0.4L insulated eco brass single boiler for more consistent temp
2.8L water tank
Brew Pressure Gauge
Brew PID
Steam PID
Clean reminder
Eco auto shut off
Extra custom functions
Pump is quieter than the GCP
Solid stainless steel construction
Very good build quality
3-way solenoid valve for clean puck release
Includes decent accessories
3-year warranty
Easily adjustable Over-Pressure-Valve (OPV)
Fairly quick heat-up time (4min)
Cons:
The steam wand is not insulated and can burn your hand if not careful
Tiny drip tray capacity
The drip tray gets very hot during the brewing/steaming purge
The messy boiler refill process after steaming
Two 5-second purges with 10-second intervals are recommended during steaming heat up
Top-fill only water tank
Sometimes rattles if the water reservoir cover is not secured
No low water indicator runs the risk of damage to an empty boiler
Some chapters that you might be interested in:
0:00 Introduction
2:30 Unboxing
3:45 Accessories
6:13 Portafilter
11:15 Machine Features
19:00 Size comparison to Gaggia Classic Pro
22:54 GCP Heatup Time (approx 50 seconds or so)
28:15 Profitec Go Heatup Time (4 min or so)
29:00 Filling boiler for the first time
29:50 Noise complaint
30:00 Small drip tray
40:34 Shower head underside view
41:00 First ever trial brew w/bottomless portafilter
45:10 Second brew after adjusting the grind size
50:20 Wrapup, Pros & Cons
1:00:50 Steaming
1:05:55 Steam purging mess
#profitec #profitecgo #gaggia #gaggiaclassicpro #espresso #espressomachine #singleboiler

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@jihnelsantodomingo Жыл бұрын

Thanks for showing the comparison with the GCP. Exactly what I wanted to see!

@asjeot Жыл бұрын

Congrats on getting in early on the unboxing. Well explained and demonstrated 👍

@eldante1259 Жыл бұрын

Great review man! So much I appreciated with with review.

@priyavardhanpatel6155 Жыл бұрын

really very nice video helped me to choose my first espresso machine. thank you.

@TheGizmoGarage Жыл бұрын

Great to hear!

@chaywa Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your initial impressions - it looks like a great high end single boiler machine for the money, although the noise levels seem a little off-putting

@TheGizmoGarage Жыл бұрын

The pump noise was mostly from initial empty boiler refilling, it has quieted down significantly to the same level as Gaggia and any other vibration pump machines this morning when I went on to make a morning brew.

@chaywa Жыл бұрын

@@TheGizmoGarage That's good to know thanks 😀

@justinmitchell7438 Жыл бұрын

glad to hear it has quieted down over time.

@iggyman83 6 ай бұрын

This is essentially an ECM Casa V wirh a PID. I was akways very impressed with a Casa IV i had on loan. Amazing build quality. I really love the adjustable OPV. Sets it apart.

@TheGizmoGarage 6 ай бұрын

Yes, I probably would have picked Casa V for a better finish and could have cared less for OPV and PID, especially after using it for a while. I realized I'm not as picky as some other espresso enthusiasts about dialing the shots perfectly and have been drinking the same bean for the last 3 years. What I would recommend however, is a Dual boiler as opposed to a high end single boiler for better shot making capacity and steaming power.

@ameano84 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for this comparison. After watching this, I will just stick to my GCP with PID. It heats up much faster. The smaller boiler on the GCP means the I dont need to wait as long for my next brew.

@TheGizmoGarage Жыл бұрын

Yes you won’t miss much

@eda7875 11 ай бұрын

The boiler design of the GCP is patented and unique. It allows them to make a cheaper machine that performs better. So everyone always saying gaggia is worst because of the "tiny boiler" are not looking at the whole picture.

@courierdog1941 Жыл бұрын

My daughter just ordered hers. We started with the Rancilio Silvio and moved to the Alexi Duetto

@theperfshot_ Жыл бұрын

Ok my friend, good video! 👏 I suggest to call your retailer, the machine arrived broken inside or you have to tight a loosing part, because you machine is to loud, It definitely had a damage during the shipping… You’ve to learn a lot about espresso, this machine will be good for your, for I saw, you’re using like “Italian beans” I suggest to find a local roaster, is better, you’ll ensure the freshness👌If you’re brewing dark roast, go down at 198-196 degrees and please buy a scale my friend, you’ll have the exact recipe time after time, enjoy your machine bro, awesome video. 👏👏

@tjwallis7948 Жыл бұрын

Love the video. I’ve been waiting for this machine for months. This may be a dumb question but with the pressure adjustment, do you think you could maybe 3d print a tool that would allow you to adjust the pressure while pulling a shot? You know, pressure profile? Would that even be possible?

@TheGizmoGarage Жыл бұрын

Yes, You can just use a flat head screw driver to turn the OPV valve while pulling a shot, since the adjustment knob is easily accessible. But doing so mid way can not guarantee your pressure setting would be correct for future shots since pressure has been modified midway of a shot. So proper procedure would be to adjust pressure in between each shots using a blank basket

@philipurquiza5184 Жыл бұрын

You could install a dimmer on the pump and flow/pressure profile that way. Lance Hendrick has a video showing how to do it

@courierdog1941 Жыл бұрын

I suggest the noise is the Vibrator Pump, some times this can be minimized by providing an isolator style of mount to isolate the vibration noise from the chassis.

@TheGizmoGarage Жыл бұрын

Indeed. Vibrating pumps are noisy.

@ohdesignlab8433 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for reviewing it! I'm trying to visualize what you said in the last minutes of the video about having to refill it everytime you steam. Is that everytime you'd finish making a latte for example?

@TheGizmoGarage Жыл бұрын

Correct, you can probably steam two cups of milk (as I tested) before the boiler gets empty, you'll need to run the brew button in non-steaming mode to refill the boiler before you can steam some more milk.

@martingk2523 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for the video! I rly need to know all those experience. Question: can you solve the noise problem? Or it's just like this? Thanks 👍🏻

@TheGizmoGarage 10 ай бұрын

Loud noise was from empty water tank.

@lukasp8593 3 ай бұрын

Thank you for this great review! At some point you mentioned that you were mainly drinking americanos. How do you prepare them on the GO! seeing that it doesn't come with water dispenser?

@TheGizmoGarage 3 ай бұрын

I prefill my cup with hot water from the shower head, then make my shot and have the shot drip down into the hot water already inside.

@Harryfin100 Жыл бұрын

How does it compare to the gaggia classic pro? Is it worth the extra money?

@timhanley4396 Ай бұрын

How is it compared to the rancillio Silvia

@Comfort031 Жыл бұрын

I definitely suggest you weigh your output instead of going by volume. If the coffee is fresh or stale you could have either more or less crema than usual and that could drastically change the amount of liquid actually in your glass and could end up with over or underextraction. Weighing just helps with your consistency from shot to shot. Looks like a nice machine though.

@TheGizmoGarage Жыл бұрын

Thank you for your suggestion. I usually just taste the shot at the end, if it tastes good, it goes to my stomach :)

@DrKumkar Жыл бұрын

@@TheGizmoGarage that’s Jedi level espresso tasting

@AD.H. Жыл бұрын

Try to put a rubber sheet underneath the machine. It seems like it's on a metal surface and that maybe is increasing the vibration noise?

@elchappo1320 Жыл бұрын

Can you compare the go with the Rancilio silvia since they are more similiar price? Thanks

@TheGizmoGarage Жыл бұрын

Similar price, but GO has a lot more advanced features plus PID. Rancillio Silvia has bigger boiler and heats up slower.

@codyDhanson 7 ай бұрын

Whole latte love tests there machines before winding them to customers. That is why you saw water spots on the portafilter handle

@s96822 Жыл бұрын

IMO this is a great deal for a machine with said capabilities. My Simonelli Oscar 1 20 years ago cost 1000 USD and had less capability, a plastic housing and issues requiring attention.

@TheGizmoGarage Жыл бұрын

I agree; this is a well built single boiler machine that enables new possibilities for espresso extraction enthusiasts

@kathyanderson6898 Жыл бұрын

I also have a Gaggia Classic Pro & I was thinking of upgrading. Question.... Does your Gaggia portafilter fit in the Profitec GO?

@TheGizmoGarage Жыл бұрын

It doesn’t. Profitec Go uses standard E61 group portafilter though so you should have a lot more stylish choices

@calangolima Жыл бұрын

Hi! I need some help. Bought a ecm gran cremm naked portafiler for my profitec go. But i thinkong maybe dont fits in it. What exact model Did you buy?

@TheGizmoGarage Жыл бұрын

You need a 58mm E61 compatiable portafilter, I am using the ECM angled bottomless, and it does fit just doesn't turn all the way 90 degree like the original portafilter but it does work fine.

@JKTF476 Жыл бұрын

Would you recommend starting with the profitiec for a beginner that didn't want to bother upgrading every few years? Kind of a one and done machine?

@TheGizmoGarage Жыл бұрын

I think you'll be happy with a Gaggia Classic Pro even for a beginner. A good grinder is more important.

@rafaelrgbarrocas Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your impressions! I intend to buy this machine in a travel...Can you inform the measures of the second box..the one that machine comes inside?

@TheGizmoGarage Жыл бұрын

Sure, the actual box for the espresso machine for the US Market is 15"x12"x22"

@rafaelrgbarrocas Жыл бұрын

@@TheGizmoGarage thanks so much! Very quick answer 👏👏

@eda7875 11 ай бұрын

The GCP has a very unique patented boiler design... it is so tiny because it doesnt need to be any bigger given its design and material. It is also intended to pull one double shot. The PGO boiler is brass... NOT steel.... The 12 oz boiler isnt an upgrade. It is comparable in functionality to the gaggia. The big advantage of the PGO is the PID. If youre buying a new machine and have 1k budget PGO or rancilia are abaolutely a great choice. If you already have a GCP i wouldnt really recommend "upgrading" to a PGO. Just get a shades of coffee PID kit and youre all set. Or get a 2k+ machine instead.

@billhendrix4125 Жыл бұрын

I think there may be an issue with the machine. Based on an overview from Marc at Whole Latte Love, I would not expect this machine to be that loud. Pretty sure the vibration pump should be mounted so vibration of the machine is reduced.

@justinmitchell7438 Жыл бұрын

did you figure out the vibration issue?

@davidchiu1296 Жыл бұрын

Did you manage to fix the sound/vibration issue? If fixed can you commend on the sound compared to classic pro?

@TheGizmoGarage Жыл бұрын

It was caused by empty boiler, now the vibration is comparable with any other espresso machine that uses vibration pump.

@seesaw7289 Жыл бұрын

Gaggia is prettier! Front, side and back! Also, love the Gaggia rocker switches. Good honest review, thx!

@TheGizmoGarage Жыл бұрын

Gotta love that classic look of Gaggia!

@medroastt9888 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for reviewing this new machine quite thoroughly. I'm considering this machine atm. Everything looks good, my only concern is the height between the bottom of the group head and dip tray seems to be the same as GCP (19:11), which is quite short. That means, similar to GCP, it is almost impossible to put a scale under the cup if you want to brew into 2 cups simultaneously (or using a taller cup) under stock portafilter (not the bottomless one).

@TheGizmoGarage Жыл бұрын

It is taller, you can put a scale under especially if you opt to go with a bottom less portafilter. The stock portafilter clearance is 3 1/8" (80mm)

@keyuchen3738 Жыл бұрын

the water tank is big and invisible, how to know that it is out of water?

@TheGizmoGarage 11 ай бұрын

You have to constantly check visually by going behind and open the cover :(

@jimmythefish Жыл бұрын

In the market for this level of machine. I’m assuming this is the more logical choice over the Silvia now. After owning a Breville Barista Express that was not very repairable my priority is for it to be simple and durable and locally serviceable.

@TheGizmoGarage Жыл бұрын

I would probably pick this over Silvia since they cost about the same but this just elevates the single boiler game up a notch with pretty much every option you may want to dial in your shots. Don't forget that a good quality espresso grinder is a lot more important than an espresso machine.

@eda7875 11 ай бұрын

Silvia is a better quality machine. I would get the silvia and a grow with it. Add a PID in a few years

@erickcleyton1800 7 ай бұрын

How has been your experience with light roasts?

@TheGizmoGarage 6 ай бұрын

I tried light roasts, really not my cup of tea... Probably best reserved for drip/pourovers. Staying with Medium and Espresso roast for better flavor.

@formulakitten9909 8 ай бұрын

NEED THAT SHIRT OMG

@TheGizmoGarage 8 ай бұрын

You can always keep an eye on vintage Kliban Cat stuff on eBay:)

@EdwardMurphy-ky7xd 10 ай бұрын

You mentioned the ports filter arrived with water on it. The owners manual says not to be surprised if there is some water in the machine when it arrives. No idea why, but thought I’d let you and everyone else know

@TheGizmoGarage 9 ай бұрын

Ya, they have to test to make sure it's working before it goes out of factory I guess

@pablo-zn1mg Жыл бұрын

so are you sending it back ?

@TheGizmoGarage Жыл бұрын

It’s been a week, pretty much used to the machine now. Definitely keeping

@Lyrouklra Жыл бұрын

wherer did you order it form?

@TheGizmoGarage Жыл бұрын

wholelattelove.com

@carrscoffee 3 ай бұрын

Good machine your very lucky i

@shanebusby231 Жыл бұрын

You need to slow that extraction down, dial finer or tamp firmer.. should flow like syrup evenly across the filter as it starts 👍

@backrack01 7 ай бұрын

100%

@howardm5759 4 ай бұрын

That portafilter must've been used before - water drops on the handle and the portafilter was already inserted.. I bought the Profitec Go last month and everything came in pristine/unused condition and I can verify that the portalfilter comes empty and clean - all baskets are separate

@leonardbertaux6897 8 ай бұрын

Way to noisy for me, what’s another option in this price point?

@TheGizmoGarage 8 ай бұрын

My suggestion is either go lower grade to Gaggia Classic Pro, or save some more money and upgrade to a Heat Exchange/Dual Boiler for major improvement in terms of steaming power and temperature stability.

@drewksidetour Жыл бұрын

After your time with the profitec go, would you choose the 400 pro?

@TheGizmoGarage Жыл бұрын

Based on my experience, and if I ever want to upgrade, I might look for another Italian branded dual boiler or HX.

@venanciocastroviejojimenez6414 8 ай бұрын

Pero donde vas,200 grados un café cuando son entre 90 y 95 grados

@hansdaudey7813 Жыл бұрын

I silenced my gaggia classic 2015 by placing a messing cube (2,7 kg) on the top of the machine.

@TheGizmoGarage Жыл бұрын

Great idea!

@khankamrankhan Жыл бұрын

Does this machine has preinfusion??

@TheGizmoGarage Жыл бұрын

No sir, no automatic pre-infusion

@khankamrankhan Жыл бұрын

@@TheGizmoGarage is there a way for preinfusion on this device. I am GC user for last 2 years I have already modified it with opv and pid so I was wondering if this was a worthy upgrade

@TheGizmoGarage Жыл бұрын

@@khankamrankhan in my opinion, not a big upgrade if you already have a fully modded GC. Your next big upgrade would probably be a dual boiler/Heat exchange with pre-infusion, PID and Pressure adjustment etc.

@lukaspeters1168 Жыл бұрын

try opening the steam wand while pulling a shot. since it’s a single boiler the pressure will drop. works with the GCP

@khankamrankhan Жыл бұрын

@@lukaspeters1168 how do you do it? Share with me technique

@SuperMatrix59 Жыл бұрын

The steam wand is not double walled.

@TheGizmoGarage 10 ай бұрын

Yeah, my super early production is not...

@alexanderdonchev3572 Жыл бұрын

I was so close to ordering one, but after watching this, I don't think that the rattles justify the price. I'll stick with my Gaggia for the time being.

@TheGizmoGarage Жыл бұрын

Alexander, the rattle was due to empty boiler. The machine now has been properly setup and I can tell you it’s a lot quicker than Gaggia pump sound!

@CH-yp5by Жыл бұрын

You'rebetter off modifying the Gaggia with a PID ! You can do it cheaply with so many how to videos or Mr Shades kit which is a bit more. Spare parts are super cheap as well.

@TheGizmoGarage Жыл бұрын

The GCP is $450-$500 depending on color trim, Mr. Shades PID kit is $130, if you want to add a pressure gauge, an extra $70, plus required drilling and extra tools that you need to buy for drilling through metal. If you don't already have a mechanics wrench set, that will set you off another good chunk of money just to install the PID kit. Most people just want to enjoy a delicious cup of espresso without extra efforts, for that purpose, Gaggia CLassic works perfect even without any mods. For people who can afford to spend a little more money to get factory PID, and pressure gauge, Lelit ANNA 2 costs about the same as a modded gaggia ($680), and if you also want adjustable OPV, Profitec Go is one of the better build models available for under $1000. Cheers

@DJ_BROBOT Жыл бұрын

Too much work _ for that much you can have a whole new machine

@coffeelife2829 Жыл бұрын

You would do better with scales and weighing your output . Otherwise why weigh your dose if your not going to weigh your output .

@TheGizmoGarage Жыл бұрын

It's pretty consistent... Have made thousands of shots you start to know :)

@Treborbobuk Жыл бұрын

Appreciate the video but where are the scales? You can't say the weight is there without the scales bro! Please Weigh the shot, else we have no clue what's going on!