Pronouns, Pride and the history of language

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3 күн бұрын

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@wesleigazo 2 күн бұрын

Why don't you use "It"? This is neutral.

@sweetblack1216 2 күн бұрын

Good point

@Username0467 2 күн бұрын

It’s generally dehumanizing. Most people don’t even refer to animals as it in western culture at this point.

@123321ps Күн бұрын

Just stay ur LGBTQ++++++ in the west. The rest of the world don't want any of those twisted value. Don't try to shove it tp others when others don't accept it.

@keshav.918 Күн бұрын

Its much better

@Sxd212 18 сағат бұрын

Because it’s generally used for objects and not people.

@chriswilliams6896 2 күн бұрын

The pronoun “It” is gender neutral.

@stephaneboisjoli1320 Күн бұрын

Yes, you're it. It is not a person. They is a person.

@Fatherthesnow Күн бұрын

@@stephaneboisjoli1320 Doesn't* (for franxy who I deeply harmed by writing "don't") schools in america teach you about they/them being plural ?

@franxyt6424 Күн бұрын

@@Fatherthesnow did u go to school? Because the one that needs to go back to school seems u. It doesn't exist the verb to school lmao. Where did u grow up?

@Fatherthesnow Күн бұрын

@@franxyt6424 Minor grammatical mistake 😱 My life is ruined ! Lmao. I grew up in France, born here obviously, so I speak french, english, arabic (since moroccan) and currently am learning chinese. I'm SO astronomically sorry for this little mistake that mustve gave you an intense and traumatic panic attack. And it doesn't make my question any less relevant btw (:

@Nick-Odd 10 сағат бұрын

'They' is not a person, it is a group of people... And for your information, 'it' is not just an object, it's also a child/kid, so it's easier to extend the use of this pronoun instead of using a plural one, and make things hard to understand. @@stephaneboisjoli1320

@12345danwilde 2 күн бұрын

Beginning of the end….

@janainawaechter427 2 күн бұрын

Right? My respect to tedx fell 40% with this 😂

@stephaneboisjoli1320 Күн бұрын

End of what? You've been through so many ends including the end of injustice with women voting but apparently suddenly it's too much. Need to go back in time, evolving is too much for you.

@Dx-Dm Күн бұрын

If respecting people is the end of things, then so be it.

@IAMTHEGOOCHALMIGHTY Күн бұрын

I believe there is still time to take this down

@timple89 13 сағат бұрын

I love how these people are capable of rewriting history so they can justify the stupidity they believe.

@hitmanb33b3 2 күн бұрын

TF IS THAT THING

@Fatherthesnow Күн бұрын

A they/them apparently

@UnkleBen Күн бұрын

used to be called a "she-he" or a "he-she" depending on original equipment...

@user-tr9le5lt7z 2 күн бұрын

Did you know? It is a feature of literary style in Arabic that a person may refer to himself by the pronoun nahnu, ‘We’, for respect or glorification.

@ziakhanachakzai1664 2 күн бұрын

🧢

@user-tr9le5lt7z 2 күн бұрын

@@ziakhanachakzai1664 I don't speak emoji fluently...

@chriswilliams6896 2 күн бұрын

This is English not Arabic, and context matters.

@user-tr9le5lt7z 2 күн бұрын

@@chriswilliams6896 The title doesn't mention English only or context...

@chriswilliams6896 2 күн бұрын

@@user-tr9le5lt7zWell let me put it into context for you. They’re talking about the English language, and words used to adapt to certain situations. What they failed to mention is that while “they/them” are gender neutral They have a plurality to them. This doesn’t apply to people with split personality disorder. What we need to do as a society is stop conforming to nonsense and get these people the psychiatric help they need.

@remigiuszlenski2257 2 күн бұрын

World is ending 🙈

@UnkleBen Күн бұрын

because you dont agree with the words COMPLETE STRANGERS self identity with?! your world is pathetic *and needs to end

@TomRipley7350 2 күн бұрын

God, this is a stretch, going back centuries to justify their madness. If language hasn’t evolved so we use “they” naturally to talk about one person, it’s never going to, so forget it, Onslow.

@Dx-Dm 8 сағат бұрын

But it has caught on. It wasn't just used centuries ago. It was used in subsequent generations including this one.

@TomRipley7350 5 сағат бұрын

@@Dx-Dm No, it hasn’t. Nobody would say: “Oh, you went to see them? How was they?” when you’re talking about a single person without causing confusion. It’s never going to happen.

@Slashy. 17 сағат бұрын

As someone who uses all pronouns, yes, even IT, the comment section is truly strange TwT

@Fatherthesnow Күн бұрын

Ted talk is at it too now ? 🤦🏻‍♂️

@Dx-Dm Күн бұрын

They have published pro-humanistic content for a very long time. You're at least a decade late to the party.

@Fatherthesnow Күн бұрын

@@Dx-Dm Pro-humanistic content yeah I'm well aware. But directly promoting "non binarity" ?

@Dx-Dm 8 сағат бұрын

@@Fatherthesnow speaking as a non-binary person, I do view such content as consistent with humanism.

@Logined85 2 күн бұрын

Indeed there is a neutral pronoun. That's "it".

@cona94 2 сағат бұрын

They always find minutia’s in history or simply alter history to fit their narrative, it’s part of the process.

@quhawks48 Күн бұрын

Two birds on stage trying to force a weird change in common sense English.

@MrFidoD Күн бұрын

What about WTF!!!

@UnkleBen 15 сағат бұрын

it's actually REALLY EASY! All YOU do, is "allow" other "free" people define their reality the SAME way you've been allowed to do your whole life! 😂

@sergypoooh 2 күн бұрын

No one cares.

@Dx-Dm Күн бұрын

I care.

@TomRipley7350 5 сағат бұрын

I care when these attention seekers try to erode the English language to cater for their lunacy.

@crunchynuttcornflake 2 күн бұрын

Well done. Now lets get back to reality and stop pandering to this nonsense.

@luke.dethomas 2 күн бұрын

Sorry in school I was taught they/them are plural pronouns. Until someone can explain a legitimate reason for a single entity to be called a plural pronoun.I choose to use the persons proper name and no pronouns to describe them. Maybe try inventing a new one.

@UnkleBen Күн бұрын

"they" DID!!! you just cant accept things that confooose you 😢

@Dx-Dm Күн бұрын

They went over some of the history of those pronouns in the video. Did you not watch it, or are the only things you've ever learned the things you've learned in school?

@TomRipley7350 5 сағат бұрын

I mean, look at the state of it. Its only path in life for any kind of validation was this, getting us to change to cater to its self-absorption.

@pnalagonda 6 сағат бұрын

Is there different groups for content on Tedx. Like tech, politics. So we can choose what to watch and cut of rest?

@shivamtrivedi1684 Күн бұрын

There are only 2 pronouns : He and She. It is a pronoun used for dogs, cats and other animals and also non living objects.

@UnkleBen Күн бұрын

ah, English Language major I see... smh. Dude what'd you get a c minus in English in 10th grade?! school... phhhht!

@Dx-Dm Күн бұрын

Your assertion would seem to be contradicted by the many people that use additional pronouns. Perhaps you were just stating wishful thinking?

@scottjohnson4985 12 сағат бұрын

Ok that’s enough, moving on we have more important things to focus on

@bettyboohadapoo Күн бұрын

Canterbury Tales by Geoffrey Chaucer, end of 14c used all pronouns described here. Problem was however, it created a "them", therefore creating an "us", hence it went out of fashion and use. Politically it plays into the hands of dividing folk.

@chriswilliams6896 2 күн бұрын

It is grammatically incorrect, and pronouns have a purpose and a specific function in a sentence. If you’re identifying as two separate people they have a name for that as well. It’s called split personality disorder.

@stephaneboisjoli1320 Күн бұрын

You just listened to a video telling you the exact opposite. There's a name for that. Closed minded, and know it all.

@Dx-Dm Күн бұрын

Honestly, you should probably watch the video you're commenting on. Grammar changes and evolves over time, and those pronouns have been in use for hundreds of years.

@UnkleBen Күн бұрын

here's how it was explained to me that made sense: "they" is fitting for a "he-she" because there's 2 pronouns in use.

@josemserratosafernandez5291 15 сағат бұрын

Very interesting, while 70% of the population has serious problems, 30% is spending their energy in stupidities. Like in idiocracy, the movie.

@Dx-Dm 8 сағат бұрын

Must every video only address serious problems or problems that you deem serious? That seems unreasonable. Furthermore, if it doesn't seem like a significant problem to you, I might suggest watching a different video.

@daledevernon56 Күн бұрын

Still trying to find the angle to justify the delusion.

@islembrm 2 күн бұрын

Bye bye

@Dx-Dm Күн бұрын

Bye!

@owlson2527 2 күн бұрын

Remember that instead of spreading negativity in the comments, you can simply not engage with the content, watch a different video. It makes the world just a bit less angry ❤

@hannibal8049 2 күн бұрын

I get your point, but the "cultural battle" is neccesary for society

@Dx-Dm Күн бұрын

@@hannibal8049 I can't tell if this is sarcasm, but it doesn't make any sense to me.

@johngardner8824 Күн бұрын

A computer is not an it, a computer is a computer try and tell a computer different try and tell me that a man is not a woman or a woman is not a man and I'll point out the differences quickly

@LeonaWillis 10 сағат бұрын

Old English...is relevant to what group of people?

@Uihgtjhfghbhjbg 2 күн бұрын

I am not interested in your world view, so stop promoting it for everyone, we really don’t care .

@Dx-Dm Күн бұрын

I am interested and I think that they will continue.

@e4tm333 Күн бұрын

Looks like Rab C Nesbit with red hair

@gamingtonight1526 2 күн бұрын

If it was used by weirdo's 700 years ago, why should I become a weirdo and use those words?

@Dx-Dm Күн бұрын

Perhaps you can do so as a personal growth activity to become less judgmental about others.

@Ruby_codm Күн бұрын

Failed society

@gTP9412 Күн бұрын

They, a word which here means to refer to people in a general way or to a group of people who are not specified. Them, a word which here is a word used as object of a verb or preposition.

@UnkleBen Күн бұрын

You have to take English 101 * to understand what you just said..."i" do, but "they" don't.

@gTP9412 Күн бұрын

@UnkleBen I mean, I want to be kind/ be accepting of everyone. But when you want me to use the same word I use to say that a group of people just went to the park, I think you should go back to school. Use a noun or something else.

@Dx-Dm Күн бұрын

There are additional definitions that correspond to the video's use of the terms, but you seem to have omitted those. They have also been used for hundreds of years. Check the Oxford English Dictionary, or others.

@sultan92busaidi 2 күн бұрын

🤮

@mohammadmenkabo9449 2 сағат бұрын

Unsubscribed

@aldomcl19 Күн бұрын

Que triste encontrar contenido como este en una TED talk

@Dx-Dm Күн бұрын

They've been doing content like this for well over a decade. I'm not sure what you think TED talk is, but you might want to reevaluate your assumptions.