Source Audio C4 Synth - Neuro App Editor Deep Dive

Source Audio C4 Synth - Neuro App Editor Deep Dive - Bass Demo

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4 жыл бұрын

I've been excited about digging into this one for a while! I'm a bit behind the curve, but I finally got my hands on the C4 Synth from Source Audio, and it does not disappoint. It has so much crammed into it, that it can be a bit overwhelming at times. This video is VERY long, but I intend for it to be a good overview about diving into the editor and making your own sounds! I'll leave some time stamps below to specific sections of the video. Enjoy!
Introduction - 1:45
Dry Tone - 2:48
Pitch Detector and Global Parameters - 3:20
Initialized Patch and Mono Input - 5:50
Dry Bass With Filters - 6:55
Dry Bass With Distortions - 15:30
Tremolo Knob - 19:00
Monophonic and Polyphonic Pitch Voices - 21:00
Saw, Square and Sine Oscillators - 26:00
Envelope Discussion - 33:00
FM Synthesis!!!! - 37:55
Custom Patches with Explanations - 42:35
Blade Runner Brass with Strymon Volante - 43:30
Sequencer - 45:00
Harmonizer Block - 47:45
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Bass Used: Dingwall ABZ 6 String
Strings: Thomastik-Infeld Jazz Flats
Rig: Mesa Boogie Subway D800 D.I. into Focusrite Scarlett 4i4
Other effects used: Strymon Volante

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@sourceaudioeffects 4 жыл бұрын

Fantastic! Thanks for taking the deep-dive, Zach.

@VexxJam 4 жыл бұрын

THIS was the demo I wanted to see. Exceptional work 👊

@MarcinKubica 3 жыл бұрын

Source Audio should send you some unit of choice for free for this ;-)

@colinbarbeau8678 Жыл бұрын

Source Audio, fyi: I Purchased the C4 after watching this 🙂

@kabassa 5 ай бұрын

I notice that the natural tone of the bass loses very low frequencies when the pedal is activated, is this true?

@animalstastegood 4 жыл бұрын

I won't watch my 1 hour long engineering lecture, but I will watch an hour log video on generating synth sounds. This helps so much!

@EricF 4 жыл бұрын

I’ve been on the fence on this pedal - all of the demos I’ve watched seemed pretty much the same - and this was the video I needed. Can’t tell you how much I appreciate the sheer depth of this demo. Thank you!

@fattyjaybird7505 Жыл бұрын

Did you end up getting it?

@StormJH1 2 жыл бұрын

This video is essentially THE instruction manual for the C4 Synth if you plan at all on creating your own sounds. I have only a very basic understanding of synthesis, but thanks to Zach walking through how the signal is routed through the C4 and all the different things you can do with it, I think I have a very good starting point to get creative. Thanks!

@J_Carter 4 жыл бұрын

There is literally no one better to cover all this detail than you Zach!

@petougao 4 жыл бұрын

Amen

@selfactualizer2099 10 ай бұрын

Well many reviews are better than one, I've been binging c4 synth pedal videos (because I want one and need to not spend money hhhh )

@TacticalHyena 4 жыл бұрын

that bladerunner brass w/ the volante is so beautiful, takes me all the way back to November 2019

@christopherjohnson4369 3 жыл бұрын

This video was the one that got me to take the dive and buy the pedal. Every video just shows the wild (sometimes unusable) sounds. This shows the subtlety and musicality this pedal can achieve

@lukesawtelle 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for making this video!So many demos for this pedal are afraid to dig deep. So much great information here.

@craigallen6706 4 жыл бұрын

Great video - I really appreciate the in depth review as I'm in the process of getting one of these pedals now. I'm so looking forward to it and learned it can do much more than I originally realized.

@luludelasnubes 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome job, as always. Thank you SO MUCH for taking time to share your knowledge and tips. Take care.

@tasoskapralos7859 Жыл бұрын

That's the only video I needed to see about the c4 pedal. Great job!

@malloryonbass 3 жыл бұрын

Incredible review. Getting mine today and this will definitely help me dive in. Thank you!

@danielsinger1116 Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for taking the time to dig into to this. You're a great teacher and a gifted musician. So excited to get my C4 in 2 days!

@squishy949 4 жыл бұрын

What you've made here is just about the best combined guide/manual/demonstration for the C4 I've seen. Super helpful, thank you!

@josuecabalceta4005 4 жыл бұрын

Amazing review, it totally helped me expand everything I had managed to understand about my c4. Thanks!! Greetings from Costa Rica

@bunky78 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Zach. When I launched the Neuro App Editor for the first time I was immediately overwhelmed. This video has really helped me find my way around and understand the functionality of the pedal better. Very well explained. Great video! 👍

@elwynsmiles 4 жыл бұрын

Awesome demo Zach....takenbaway all of the mystery surrounding the app and I now feel comfortable experimenting 👍

@tshibuta 2 жыл бұрын

I was totally lost with this pedal, and this video really gave light to me. Thank you so much.

@natesteckel 4 жыл бұрын

Yes! This video proves you're the C4 Master! I want all these patches.

@SuperBillsykes Жыл бұрын

Really Awesome demo!! Thanks so much for the detail and clear explanantions. C4 ordered 😀

@thomasshugar5636 3 жыл бұрын

THIS is the BEST C4 Demo EVER!!!!!!

@ijazzmunki 4 жыл бұрын

Zach - your demos are always enthralling - but just want to give you a shout out to your playing - you're sounding great with or without pedals dude... keep it up

@jessetoews2446 4 жыл бұрын

sooooooo friggin stoked on this video . thank you dude !! fo real.

@michaelb.42112 2 жыл бұрын

I've already learned more in the first 3 minutes than other videos !!

@Wally55223 3 жыл бұрын

Dude... I had watched a majority of this video before, but I somehow forgot the envelope phaser setting you came up with. That's amazing!

@Energy_from.the_Sun 2 жыл бұрын

I was so lost. Thanks for leading me into the light... Super stocked off this pedal

@aidanbowen9052 3 жыл бұрын

Had my C4 for many months now and not really had a proper chance to get to grips with it. This video is sooooo helpful Zach and has inspired me to get grooving. Thank you :)

@ozbassplayer8596 3 жыл бұрын

Zachary, I bought the C4 after watching this demo. To help manage all the patches I created and to make them easily accessible at gigs, I also bought and hooked up the Disaster Area DMC Micro controller. That, along with my phone running the Neuro app into the Input 2, covers everything I need in terms of being able to quickly access patches. I've also started playing a lot more with the synthesisers in Logic because I now have a better understanding how they work thanks to your explanations. However, I really started to realise the power and versatility of the C4 when I was looking at many of the top-notch synths and realised that they were sadly lacking some of the features I was becoming accustomed to with the C4. Thanks so much for taking the time to go through this - believe me, you have changed the way I play - for the better! Best wishes for 2021!

@dominiquebentvelsen3287 Жыл бұрын

I've spent somewhat over an hour with the first 20 minutes of this video, life changing stuff! Thanks so much for this awesome explainer (so far) :)

@zoltanrenaldi4466 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Zach! Nice review here, very detailed and helpful just as always...

@Mookakian Жыл бұрын

This is extremely helpful, i actually understand what some of the synth controls are now, before i was pretty much clueless thanks!

@solal94 6 ай бұрын

the best video I know about the C4. Thanks

@cjlister8508 Жыл бұрын

Just bought one of these this week. Glad I found this video as that software was very intimidating to look at, but you have broken it all down perfectly

@Stewkeithmtb 2 жыл бұрын

This is the video I needed. Thank you.

@gabrielalbo6911 4 жыл бұрын

Amazing video! I've already saved it and I'm sure I'll be coming back to specific bits as I dive deeper into what this pedal can do. You’re making it very hard for me not to buy this 😅

@markanthony5897 Жыл бұрын

You are a consummate professional and an elite teacher. Thank you for your selfless contributions.

@Terrible_Peril 4 жыл бұрын

That floating thumb/ “closed hand” technique is stellar. A very classical PIMA kinda hybrid picking look.

@acalmerkarma 4 жыл бұрын

Such a sick demo

@AluinKali 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for all the details. Seing this I almost regret buying the Spectrum Intelligent Filter when this has so much more to offer. But then even the Spectrum can generate some lovely synthy sounds. But the c4 is really from another world.

@GoldenBoyDims 4 жыл бұрын

i love this pedal so much very nice you are going in depth with it one day i shall get it and look to your video for reference

@nicolaskrzyszton8064 Жыл бұрын

Great deep dive !!! Brillant video thanks you

@ishancooper 2 жыл бұрын

Such a great video, thank you!! I’m doing my homework before the pedal arrives! Haha Thanks for the tips on the OC2 settings as well .. love mine on my guitar. 🤘🏼

@colinbarbeau8678 Жыл бұрын

Wow, wow and wow! Soo informative, thanks man. I have a headache now, but a good one!

@jeffs.3533 3 жыл бұрын

Super instructional vid. Thanks!

@shadadams2528 4 жыл бұрын

Wow I actually wish this video was longer.

@petougao 4 жыл бұрын

Me too!

@andrewjeffries8721 3 жыл бұрын

Behind what curve? I am just now beginning to use my COVID time to look into playing my Jazz again. And, yes, the C4 sounds great! I like that you pick things to play that make the most of how the C4 patches sound, Good job!. Well done, Zachary!

@Pumpkin_Fart 4 жыл бұрын

I bought this pedal today....thanks for the tutorial/demo

@MrScannermann 4 жыл бұрын

You may be a bit behind the curve, but this video is brillaint. i need to watch all this again and again! haha, feels like you need a degree in synths to start with..

@ThomasFanto Жыл бұрын

Great !!!! You made my buy one !!!!

@DJFisherBass 3 жыл бұрын

Amazing video man! 👊🏾

@insitwo 4 жыл бұрын

Very helpful thank you!

@micaramos4046 2 жыл бұрын

Finally someone with a sense of sound design

@davidsummerville351 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for doing this. I have a Mothership 2 and love it.I am now looking for a polyphonic synth. This may be the one.

@whiteycroon Ай бұрын

Thanks for this deep dive. I'd like to start using this with my Ric-o-Sound and run in stereo, but it's been very confounding so far.

@valmirluciobarbosa1284 2 жыл бұрын

De grande contribuição, obrigado.

@andrewdeck7945 4 жыл бұрын

THANKS. I was really needing this. The company hardly tries to help the user understand all of this.

@andrewdeck7945 4 жыл бұрын

Already enjoying the pedal so much more now!!!! This youtube link should come default with the pedal!

@hrgbass5701 4 жыл бұрын

Super helpful thank you man.

@moyinski5637 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot for all those informations... I knew it was a good pedal but you give me more keys to understand

@eatmarth 4 жыл бұрын

I love those sounds that are very much the same sound as the SNES and NES can generate

@markanthony5897 Жыл бұрын

Bravo

@keziahj 4 жыл бұрын

Yes! 😍👾👍

@jahnkejens Жыл бұрын

Got my C4 and this vid is my reference to learn this beast. Very good work, And, Zach, I'd suppose that the flats you are using are better for tracking than roundwounds. Albeit my technique is very clean, sometimes I get nasty audio artefacts when sliding.

@toms8135 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks very helpful :) this pedal could replace anything. I've spend years dumping money on octave pedals, filters, synths, fuzzes/distortions. All sorted with this plus a MIDI switcher.

@fattyjaybird7505 Жыл бұрын

Would you recommend it for live shows?

@mikhailpenkin2112 2 жыл бұрын

I would like this guy to explain me quantum physics, he obviously has talent in explaining things very clearly.

@Thurgor_Supreme Жыл бұрын

As a bassist, I don't care much about pedals to begin with (exc for compression & DI). I started considering an envelope filter though... and holy cow! I am so glad I spent the extra $50 over the Spectrum to get this beast! It can do everything I've ever daydreamed about, and then some

@brainjellyTV 2 жыл бұрын

Figured out that the iPhone interface its similar but u have to click on this lightning ⚡️ bolt at the bottom so the changes take effect…don’t give up…It’s worth it!

@Christopherjazzcat 3 жыл бұрын

This is excellent. Are your patches available in the community?

@JarodGrieco 4 жыл бұрын

Hey Zach. It's been months that I've wanted to tell you how great this video is. I waited to purchase the pedal until I could see your breakdown of the software. I reference this video every time I go to make a new preset. Such a great job! Question for you that I can't find the answer to anywhere: What is a "pole" when discussing EQ? I'm imagining a type of bar graph where if I have a 4-pole low pass filter, the bottom 4 poles (each one being its own freq?) are the only bars present. Am I on the right track?

@PaDamTuts 2 жыл бұрын

If you add the 0:00 timestamp marker in your description, the timestamps will actually show up in the video timeline. Without it you have to go to comments every time to go to the next timestamp. Thank you, great review!

@julivessi 2 жыл бұрын

This is really helpful, thank you! Any chance you could add some markers to the video timeline to find different parts of the video?

@benmorales9246 4 жыл бұрын

Fantastic video really helped me learn the pedal but only complaint is I wish you explained the sequencer more.

@georpsi 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome video really helpful. Did the C4 made it to your board? How would you compare it against a combination of pedals eg oc2 + fmeron + xerograph etc? Keep up the great work is truly inspiring.

@spacepig191826 4 жыл бұрын

my dude, i now REALLY want one of these for my rig. thank you. speaking off basses, what is he bass you have? it is beautiful

@UsTheMusicTVOfficial 2 жыл бұрын

This pedal was sent from the Synth Gods themselves. We are now worthy!!!

@ignaciousrockafeller353 2 жыл бұрын

Yoooooooooo! Killer video, exactly what I needed. Thanks for taking the time. Dig that dinky too Σ(ノ°▽°)ノ

@selfactualizer2099 10 ай бұрын

The future is nice

@staplek 4 жыл бұрын

question zach re: 3:20, pitch detection block - if you go into the unit in stereo but only select audio input 1, will that keep audio input 2 non effected so in a stereo amp scenario one amp would be the synth and one would remain clean?

@n_phaneuf 4 жыл бұрын

How long have you had flats on your bass? It sounds different/better than in other videos of yours. Also would you consider sharing your filter patches?

@mattdickun6145 3 жыл бұрын

Hey man, great video! I'm super new to synths and effects. Do you have any of these loaded to the source community?

@jessetoews2446 4 жыл бұрын

any recs on a different way i should run my signal chain? : - awol virus fuzz > polytune3/buffer > digitech ricochet > boss oc2 > Future Impact > C4 synth > mu octavider > microtron iii > ovnifx compression > darkglass microtubes b3k v2 > mu phasor > warped vinyl vibrato > H9 max+barn3 > strymon Volante > Gravitas tremolo / > Volume pedal > gamechanger plus sustain > Beatbuddy > pigtronix infinity looper > RJM tone saver buffer > aguilar tone hammer preamp/di .. ... if you see something that makes sense to change, i'd try it.

@Pogokoala 4 жыл бұрын

Anyways they have the effect for Nine Inch Nails Closer for Bass? Since I am aware that it was a Keyboard that did the bass but it has this catchy effect on synth bass. was wondering if this C4 can mimic this close as effect as possible?

@dancityhulk7022 4 жыл бұрын

🙏💣🕺

@richtudor8547 2 жыл бұрын

Would source audio please hire you for walk throughs of each pedal? As well as how to use the neuro and midi controllers? Thank you Amazing walk through video

@johnturner4561 4 жыл бұрын

Have you posted your patches yet? If so, how best do I search for them? As always, thanks for the excellent content!

@johnturner4561 4 жыл бұрын

@@ZacharyRizer Ha! I thought those sounded familiar. Thanks for the sounds!

@galantreentrant 2 жыл бұрын

16:12 sounds kinda like fuzz I like it

@MYGAS21 3 жыл бұрын

Question for Zachary: CAn you introduce pauses into the sequencer beats? If not do you miss it? Can you introduce pauses with you playing atleast? (or does the sequence start from the beggining every time you pluck ?)

@ultrakwh 4 жыл бұрын

Hi, I wonder How I control LFO speed by Env? I touched Env to Speed knob in LFO section. I thought Env to Speed knob can control LFO speed my Envelope move. but it does not. am I something miss?

@matteosalvestrini3553 3 жыл бұрын

I've a question if you don't mind: how could be effective to use this pedal with a preamp? Can I use it in the Send/Return or it has already an internal preamp so it's preferable use the pedal and the preamp when FX is no needed? Thank you very much!

@zoltanrenaldi4466 4 жыл бұрын

do you have any plan to review H9 algorithm Hotsawz? will be interesting to see it from you

@peadookie Ай бұрын

I’ve got a somewhat unorthodox question and I’d love your take on it if willing. I’m a long-time bassist with multi-genre experience and I’m starting a top-shelf funk band. I love the idea of being able to cover/double some of the synth lines. I already own some synths for edm production and have an HX stomp with decent synths and I’m confident I could just bring keys as well if need be, but I’d prefer not to. I’m pretty set on the C4 due to size and ability and tracking, but I’m concerned I’m not going to use it enough to justify it. Do you have any thoughts/advoce/ examples of synth bass in use you could share? TIA, great video!

@airixxxx 4 жыл бұрын

Hello! loved the review. One question, there's no midi port on the pedal. Can you connect it to a midi foot controller and change to any preset live? Something like an Boss es-8 for example.

@tonycot 4 жыл бұрын

You can't connect anything to this pedal with standard 5PIN DIN to TRS Midi cable as others. For these purposes you have to buy Source audio Neuro Hub(and connect your 5pinMIDI there) but you will have just lack of functionality. Only CC commands can be delivered. And if you need to switch a patch you have to use PP commands. So they can be delivered through USB-MDI hub with Ghost. And there is not so much teams building such.... Disaster area (So I feel it was done specially to make you spend extra money to run with full SO C4 functionality) micro can be good to use. So as for tracking and ability, Don't believe the video guy showcasing on... His bass is just "bulky" without a lot of sustain and brightness.(Like he use old strings or something). I mean if you will use something more Modern you will get the issues with tracking because of overtones created. I use Sandberg custom Explorer with two Sandberg humbs - the bass is a Rocky Gun and I experiencing the issues with tracking. If I use some cheapy bass with no presence the tracking is more or less accurate.

@MindfulProgramming 4 жыл бұрын

@@tonycot *insert uncomfortable night club meme*

@firesalt 4 жыл бұрын

I use the Disaster Area designs DMC.micro to switch presets easily on mine though they advertise that any of their gen3 products can do it via the USB, it does require their Ghost USB adapter though. My only complaint is that the micro won't display the name of the presets on the display, only the preset number, the larger models with larger displays will.

@GPR100 4 жыл бұрын

@@tonycot A few things here. There is no other pedal in the synth/filter world that will give you this variety of sounds and depth of functionality for $240. As it comes, you get 6 presets of your choice with the ability to download community presets, tweak existing patches, or create your own from scratch. All of their pedals give you a ton out of the box for users who don't want to dive into MIDI programming & controllers in their setups. Of course they are set-up to function best with the SA Hub/controllers for those wanting to deep dive - they've developed all of these components to be hyper-functional together. If you talk to their support staff they will tell you that the goal is to make the One Series easy to use for people who just want a couple basic sounds that can be tweaked via the physical knobs, while giving users the option to go down the rabbit hole. A Disaster Area switcher and ghost cable was enough for my needs, but the Hub is only like $100 new... Regarding the tracking, what you're complaining about is just the nature of the beast with pitch-shifting, analog octaves, and other synth pedals. If you introduce more harmonic content (i.e. bright round wound strings, tone knob rolled up, hot active preamps with lots of treble, more bridge pickup, etc), the tracking inevitably suffers. I've got no reason to hype SA stuff, but this tracks as well or better than any octave, synth, and pitch shifting pedals I've had. As usual, rolling off some high end and cleaning up your technique is the best way to get any of these types of pedals to track accurately. He said he's using flats - so there's less harmonic content compared to rounds. On the other hand, the Dingwalls are pretty hifi and not shy on treble/clarity. From someone who uses bright wounds, I've got no complaints or issues with the C4 tracking...

@laptoples Жыл бұрын

That's great, but I tried to follow along on my phone app. And.....being that it looks so different on the Android app and nothing like your screen, and this is so complex, I couldn't even Follow along a little bit or get that Sequencer to work at all. I tried for a WHILE, JUST to get that same first tone you got and I just could find it in the app. Do you have to have the pedal itself set a certain way ? Like the switch in the middle on Triangle, Circle or square ? And the knobs a certain way ? You don't show the pedal at all here. The pedal did change sounds and I got a few things to change the sounds from the app, but I don't understand how they go together... I was mostly interested in the sequencing, which you only showed one example of, but I can't even get that thing to work at all. Maybe I should get a more simplistic pedal or something....lol I wish I could get it to work though !!!!! It seems amazing !!! :-/

@ryansalloom8954 4 жыл бұрын

hey boss, I have a big favor to ask, is there any way you can help me out with instructions on how to set up the dual expression pedal through my hub to the c4 and spectrum filter, I can't figure out how it should look like in the neuro editor.

@LaFritePerreGoat 3 жыл бұрын

@zach as 6 month went by do you still use it or you prefer to use your oc2 plus a combination auf dirt+mod pedals??

@robertkaye5434 2 жыл бұрын

Q4U: When performing live, do you need a laptop or mobile to control/access all the various sounds in real time? If so, is there a long USB cable that'll run from the pedalboard to the PC/smartphone?

@StuartRochabrunt 4 жыл бұрын

43:31 Shut up and take my money!

@bassrebel 3 жыл бұрын

RIGHT!!!! That's one of the presets that made me make the decision in buying one to try it with my fretless!!!!

@ozbassplayer8596 3 жыл бұрын

Hell yeah!

@MrDonc78 4 жыл бұрын

Have you seen the new future impact?

@Mrpsblobsoflowendmung 3 жыл бұрын

After watching this video I’m pretty sure I can pretty much replace my entire pedal board with this and a midi controller . Can I ask if the pedal glitches between patches , as in could I program a synth sound for the verse and a just a distortion and switch patches with a midi pedal with no break in the sound ? Hope I’m explaining that ok

@ts4gv 3 жыл бұрын

Phil Hartley Music great question

@kabassa 5 ай бұрын

I bought this pedal and noticed that the natural tone of the bass that is mixed with the effect sounds a little different, without really lower frequencies, have you noticed this? I play reggae and I also need frequencies below 80hz. I wanted to mix with a synthesizer, but I can't reach these frequencies even in the natural timbre of the bass when the pedal is activated.

@nicholasbtorretta Жыл бұрын

Coming late into the game, I have had a Meris Enzo for the last 4 years as my main synth pedal. Is it worth changing to the C4? any thought on how they compare?