Thanks mate, appreciate that, always encouraging to hear these comments. Cheers.

Cheers mate, appreciate it!

Cheers mate. They're great units, well worth the investment in my opinion. Thanks.

Cheers mate, glad you enjoyed and I hope you will enjoy future content to come.

Thanks mate, appreciate the feedback. Good luck with your installation and intercooler clean. Cheers, Nathan.

Awesome, glad you found it helpful. Cheers, Nathan.

Thanks mate, appreciate it! Wow, your definitely getting the use out of that vehicle, good idea fitting the catch can nice and early. Cheers.

Cheers mate, glad you enjoyed the video. Awesome choice of vehicle, I'm sure you'll love it! All the best with the never ending list of mod's...

Good to hear mate, hope that install went alright. Thanks, Nathan.

Haha, awesome mate! Hopefully there's some one use in there! Enjoy the new cruiser!

Thanks mate, glad you are enjoying this content. Cheers.

Cheers mate 👍

Thanks mate, glad it was helpful. Cheers, Nathan.

Thanks mate, appreciate it 🙏

Cheers mate. Each to their own, I'm not here to sell, promote or push products, simply to display my results, thoughts and opinions on these popular modifications. I believe they assist in prolonging carbon build up and don't have many, if any drawbacks. Cheers, Nathan.

Thanks mate, I appreciate that 🙏

Awesome, glad to hear this was helpful, thanks mate 👍

Thanks mate, glad you enjoyed it. Cheers.

You're welcome, thanks 👍

Christ now im stressing - do i get one of these for my 2014 BT or a different brand?

Awesome mate, glad I could help I the decision process. The new Ranger looks good! Jealous

Did you install it on your ranger? Everything good?

Thanks mate. Good idea, it will definitely prolong maximum efficiency and reduce the build up within the intake.

Thanks mate, I appreciate that 🙏

For sure, I'll see if I can check it out. Thanks mate 👍

No problem, glad you enjoyed the video. Cheers, Nathan.

Thanks mate, appreciate that 🙏

Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it 👍

Good results. It's interesting to hear the changes in the DPF burns (something I can't comment on with my model). At least it provides that confidence and peace of mind that you are getting the cleanest air back into the intake. Cheers.

That doesn’t sound right mate, 25k without a regen….not possible

@@chasp_0784 That was 25,000km less 9,000km, so 16,000km without a DPF burn. It gets even better(!). Since I posted that I'm on 36,000km, so now 24,000km and it still hasn't done one, or it hasn't told me it's done one. It use to come on and I'd have to drive about 30km at highway speeds for it to complete. Anyway, if it's not possible it's not possible. I change the oil and drain the catch can regularly, keep driving it, and never get any DPF messages, but maybe it's doing something in the background and not telling me.

@@Michael_Mears yeah fair bump mate, I think it’s doing it in the background but no dpf issues is a good thing, people think Toyota owners got screwed, I worked for Mercedes in England and every single day there was multiple diesel emission jobs going on, sensors, regens, replacing whole catalysts, injectors. Rubbish product.

@@chasp_0784 Hey, reading that, you've given me something to think about. I should get the local mechanic with this scan tools and see what the stats are with the DPF, or history, or whatever can be gleaned from the ECU records. It might give me an insight into what it's doing. Point taken about the work that goes on. If this Provent unit can help prevent or significantly delay some of that type of work, that would be fine by me. Cheers.

Perhaps I forgot to mention this because I don't have a DPF. DPF vehicle's are certainly different and specific considerations need to be taken into account, but I highly doubt I will cause damage to a DPF if I don't have one...

Thanks mate. Yes, I hear you. The dealers don’t like to know anything about non-standard equipment. I’m glad they eventually agreed to sort it for you. Enjoy the new vehicle, great choice 👍

Cheers thanks mate, appreciate the encouragement. Both those mod's are great idea's prior to delivery.

Thanks mate, glad you enjoyed it. Cheers, Nathan.

Yeah, I have heard about the condensation issues. The reason I didn't mention in this video is I haven't had any issues with this so far, makes it hard for me to comment. I believe keeping the entire system, the unit and hoses in the warm engine bay would definitely assist in reducing condensation. Cheers.

Hey mate, thanks for sharing. I'm glad you were able to get the smaller 100 unit to fit! I love the idea of fitting a clear hose to the can, another awesome way to visually observe how effective these catch cans are. I'm glad you are happy with the results from yours, as I am with mine. Cheers, Nathan.

@@XploringOz thank you sir

Thanks!

Cheers mate. Good luck with your install, hopefully it will help reduce to blockage of those components over the service interval. Cheers.

I’ve been running my prevent on my 2007 GL 320 for a year now, works better thank the old eBay aluminum catch can I installed earlier.

Thanks mate, glad you enjoyed it. Yes, just the way the different cans are designed. Cheers, Nathan.

Thanks mate, glad you enjoyed it. Installing a catch can will definitely still have an effect on catching some of that oil, however it won't be as important. Without an EGR system, you won't develop the 'sludge' that builds up in the intake and therefore won't have a long term restriction. Saying this, the oil that can flow through the intake pipes without a catch can fitted can also effect the thermodynamics of the intercooler, creating a slight increase in intake temperatures. In conclusion, although it's not quite as important, there are still benefits there to fitting a catch can. Cheers, Nathan.

Thanks Jim, so it will depend somewhat on how much the unit is collecting. I believe Mann and Hummel recommend changing the filter every 30-40k kms. I will probably lean towards the 30k mark due to the amount my unit is collecting 👍

Thanks mate, glad you enjoyed the video. So this is the updated kit that I've got on my vehicle from Western Filters: www.westernfilters.net.au/toyota-landcruiser-200-series-2008-on-4-5l-td-200vdj-passenger-side-installation-mann-provent-oil-catch-can-kit-os-prov-21p/

Thanks mate, glad you enjoyed the video. To be honest, there's nothing inherently wrong with the original kit (other than the environmental concerns). From what I am aware of, you can just upgrade the kit when you next replace the filter material. These kits come with everything you need. Personally I wouldn't be changing the element out just for the upgrade until the regular service interval (normally around 30000kms)

Thanks mate, glad you enjoyed it. So not yet, I haven't done any further testing and to be honest, it probably isn't on my immediate list to complete at the moment. I'm still very happy with the performance of the Provent and will be sticking with it for now. Cheers, Nathan.

For sure, that’s good news. Glad it’s working out 👍

Hey mate, can definitely see where you are coming from here. Although I can agree to some extent, a unit like this does include fail safe and pressure relief valves that should (theoretically) prevent damage in the event of a pressure build up. Although manufacturers did design there vehicle in a particular way, engines need to breathe, however combustion engine were never designed to recycle that contaminated air back into the cylinder. This was only done for emission standards and a unit like this will help to purify that air prior to re-combustion. Hope this makes sense and by no means discounting the points you have raised. Cheers, Nathan.

Thanks mate, so the 200 series only has one ventilation hose from the crankcase. Making it easy to plumb into a single catch can. The filtered air is then re-circulated into the passenger side air intake, however once that hits the intercooler, the pressures from both turbo's are combined and the gasses mix prior to entering the intake system. I didn't realise the VW had 2 seperate pipes. I'm guessing that a model specific kit would likely combine the two hoses prior to entering into a single catch can... Cheers, Nathan.

Great to hear you've had a good result. I believe they are a good value product for these types of vehicles.

Perhaps, this is something I haven't considered before and haven't seen much data on 🤷‍♂️

Haha, just a rough guess mate 😆

Thanks mate, yes this is true, however keep in mind the EGR is a dynamic system, so when under heavy load or full acceleration the EGR is electronically disable by factory computers. The EGR will only provide emission benefit when at idle or slow speed.

Hey mate, so I would still recommend a catch can. It will prolong the continual build up of carbon in the meantime. It could be worth doing a full intake clean as well, just to clear out that existing build up. Cheers, Nathan.

Cheers, thanks mate. So that cap actually came with the Western Filters kit. If you ordered through them, I’m sure they would supply one to you, otherwise I would assume they would sell them as a stand some product. Cheers.

@@XploringOz I bought mine the other day from Western Filters, as they now have a kit to fit it on the passenger side. It didn't have a cap.

@@jimprovan8866 I reckon hit them up. Another viewer told me that they contacted Western Filters and they sent one out to them. Hopefully they’ll do the same for you 👍

Haha, sure did 👍

Haha, look it still does the job, but this is certainly more effective 👍

Thanks mate, so yes it would be possible to measure those pressure. However saying this I don’t currently have access to this equipment. Personally I wouldn’t be too concerned as the pressure is low to begin with. Secondly, yes this is very true, however the build up would take much longer, given a more efficient intake for a longer period of time.

Cheers mate. Haha, yeah there were a few out takes in this filming session. Kids were going a little crazy inside...

Cheers mate, glad you enjoy the videos. So as far as I'm aware, the standard Toyota ventilation hose does not have a PCV. If you wanted to vent straight to the atmosphere I don't seeing this being a engine management issue. Because of the low pressure, there wouldn't be any vacuum issues as long at the blanking cap was secured well. My concern would be environmental and road surface. As you would have seen there is a significant amount of oil being captured by this unit, if this was to be released it would 'film' the road with oil, making it a slippery surface for other vehicles, particularly motorbikes. Cheers, Nathan.

@@XploringOz Thanks for your quick reply!! My LC is still quite new so I’m looking at it sometime in the future yet. In case I finally decide I’d probably choose one with an outside filter, and to just collect the oil from time to time, be environmentally friendly. Again thanks!

@@armistriple7 No problems mate, all the best with your vehicle!

Hey mate, so I don't believe there is a vacuum on the outlet side of the can, if there is it would be very small. The pressure and direction of the flow is based from the pressure placed from the crankcase toward the catch can. Hope this helps thanks, Nathan.

@@XploringOz Thanks for the reply

@XploringOz Hey matey, are you unable to answer this one for me...???

Hey mate, yes I see what you are pointing out here. Without conducting my own test, I would have to agree with you here. The ventilation system would recirculate the gases back into the cooler, just as if the catch can was not there to begin with.

Hey mate, personally I haven't had any experience with the Ryco units so it would an uneducated opinion, however I can confirm that I still haven't had any issues with my Provent system. Although I will be changing the filter media in the next few thousands kilometres as per the recommendations from Mann&Hummel. Cheers.

For sure, it will be a vehicle specific service interval. These 200 series are known for a lot of blow by oil vapour.

Hi ray Bourne just wondering where you got your provent from for the Touareg, is it an Amarok kit you modified or a actual Touareg kit ?

@@nategilmore8941 ... Mines actually the Ryco branded model... Ryco RCC350K... I had a bracket made up to fit it... I have mine living in the front left corner.... easy enough to do once a bracket is made... you cannot buy a bracket for these cars as far as I know.

Absolutely not mate, it will still perform well. 14k is a relatively new vehicle 👍

Subbed :) Great content.

Hey mate, glad to hear you enjoy the channel and have found this video useful. So there are a couple of things to consider. The EGR system is completely seperate and (generally) produces a dry gas which can contain small debris particles. This is no issue by itself and will just pass through the engine as designed. The EGR intake is generally after the intercooler and immediately before injection. However, when the EGR gasses (and small debris) come into contact with that sticky blow by oil this is when it becomes a little bit of an issue. The crankcase ventilation system (CVS) is generally positioned prior to the intercooler and hence why the intercooler can also gum up with oil residue. Anyway, when that oil residue from the CVS meets with the EGR gasses in the last part of the air intake system it creates a thick and sticky sludge over time that can eventually reduce the intake diameter and overall efficiency of the engine. Theoretically, placing in a catch can, this will prevent this build up, however we also know that even the Provent 200 system is not perfect, which means a small amount of oil residue will inevitably get through. This in turn will still mix with the EGR gasses and overtime time (a lot longer time) create that sludge build up. It was take significantly longer though. So yes, blocking the EGR will definitely provide some benefit in that regard, however also keep in mind the legality of this if that is something you consider... Now some people will also say that the engine will suffer somewhat from blocking the EGR, in particular with overheating. The engine is tuned to run with a functioning EGR valve and when in use will result in a cooler running engine, as the intake air is partially burnt gasses and won't be able to re-ignite. Saying this, almost all modern day vehicles will be able to handle this very small increase of heat with a standard alternating thermostat. I hope this can of help. Cheers, Nathan.

@@XploringOz Thanks Nathan grear detailed explanation, appreciate it heaps, keep up your great work👍

@@garybalasa3158 Cheers mate, glad I could help.

Hey mate, not something I've experimented with at this stage. I'll look into it 👍

So blocking the EGR will definitely prevent the build up within the intake. I probably wouldn't go the blanking plate with the 6mm hole, as it won't stop the issue it will only prolong it. You should be able to electronically disable or reduce the EGR and physically block it, which shouldn't cause any electronic codes or issues.

Hey mate, thanks for the feedback. Glad to hear that you are enjoying the channel. To be honest, a vehicle with 20,000kms probably doesn't need an intake clean. In my opinion is just wouldn't be worth the investment as it isn't a cheap task. I don't think you would get much, if any benefit from it. All the best with the catch can and the 200 series. Cheers, Nathan.

@@XploringOz , great presentation, well explained. In my case I fitted a Provent IV to my 2013 X trail. Lots of owners reporting oil blowback on inside of air filter, mine had that too from PO city driving, including mine but now with Provent, no oil on filter element , = good result in my opinion.

@@alanbrookes6637 Awesome, great to hear that you've had a positive experience with your unit! I'm still satisfied with the results I'm getting from my unit and have no complaints to date 👍

Hey mate, it definitely wouldn't hurt. Putting a catch can on will definitely help prevent that build up and the intake clean will just open up the intake pipes. It will just allow the engine to operate as cleanly and efficiently as possible. I had my vehicle cleaned out at about 90k. Cheers, Nathan.

Yes, this is true. The gases will mix and cause that sludge. The EGR will still produce residue, but it will be drier and less likely to build up in the intake 👍

I think it’s just one of those things that bring the expat up too much for consumers by adding these sorts of modifications. I personally don’t believe there is anything sinister here, but you never know 🤷‍♂️

Look, you can vent with issue, however it’s going to make a mess, regardless of where you mount it and will deteriorate road conditions, particularly for other vehicles like motorbikes. I would recommend it, it’s fairly quick and easy to empty when required.

Thanks mate

Hey mate, if you're talking about cleaning the intake components of the engine, I won't be able to comment there. Definitely a job I leave to the experts who also have access to commercial style parts washers. The intake decarb's are a messy and time consuming job on these 200's.

Hey mate, so the manufactures themselves recommend changing the filter element every 30-40k km's, depending on how the vehicle is used. The filter material is designed to continue to allow filtering and airflow even when fully soaked. I can't talk too much about the science about it, however it seems to be working thus far. Cheers, Nathan.

@@XploringOz the filter code that you used is the lc5001x I believe correct? I might have gotten a knock off or it can be my oil type causing this or sludge in the motor it self. Just guessing here. What I notice on mine is that is completly black,the oil didn't flow to the bottom of the filter like yours.

@@RafaelCampos91 Hmm, yeah that doesn't sound right at all. I can't offer to much advice here as it's not something I've had experience with. Might pay to take it to a mechanic or a fitter who deals with catch cans to seek their advice?

Donaldson recommend every 40000km but I was changing after emptying the oil 3 times.

Hey mate, so it probably won't have any effect on the performance of the vehicle. Catch can are primarily designed to prevent the slow blockage within the intake system. The small residue of oil that passes through into your cylinders won't cause any dramas. If you have already, your vehicle could potentially benefit from an intake clean. This will remove any carbon build up and potentially restore any lost efficiency and power from the years. Cheers, Nathan.

XploringOz Thanks Nathan I will talk to my mechanic and get it sorted . Regards Mal

@@malmarsden9730 No dramas. If you do a intake clean, let me know how you go and your thoughts on it. I would be interested to hear if its makes a significant difference on a vehicle with this many km's. Cheers, Nathan.

Not true.. engine gets oil from sump. This is blowby oil. It will only clogged up your intake system with oil and sludge..

Jay Lee is correct, the oil would still have some lubrication properties and degrade along with regular engine use. Where the benefit comes from is eliminating the risk of condensation building within the piping and unit (primarily in cold climates). This creates a white 'sludge' in the catch can, which you definitely wouldn't want entering back into the oil feed of the engine.

Hey mate, its an option but given young your vehicle is and the fact that its only done 25k km, I probably wouldn't bother. Installing the catch can alone would assist though. Cheers, Nathan.

@@XploringOz thanks mate!

Sure is! Significantly more than the HPD unit caught. At least I'm confident the unit is performing well. Are you also running the Provent 200 on your Prado 150? PS. Great channel by the way mate, been following you for a couple of years now.

@@XploringOz It is. I was impressed cloth test. Great visual. I wondered about mine so pulled the EGR apart. It would only catch 50ml or so in 5K Kms, but the EGR is dry.. I guess different engines create more mist or less.. Thanks for subbing to the channel.. And thank for your content.. I know how much work goes into it..

@@jjsadv For sure, every vehicle and every engine would have specific requirements. Glad to hear that your vehicle is performing so well, definitely a cash saver there in terms of intake cleans. Cheers mate, I'm glad you are enjoying so of my content. Sure is a lot of work behind the scenes, but the appreciation from viewers is well worth it

Be careful that when you buy a catchcan that you do not reduce the hose size as this will build up crankcase pressure and will blow engine seals!

Chuck it in the bin, catch cans are preventing the valves and upper cylinder from being lubricated. If it's not sealed you'll be injesting dirt/dust etc into your engine. Throw it out, put it back to standard.

As Dino's Shed mentioned, these units are designed to be air tight, so it might be looking at upgrading to a more reputable unit in this instance.

@@XploringOz Thanks, will absolutely do. Also, great video on the intercooler cleaning. That's next on my to do list!

@@Zophus1 Thanks mate, glad you are enjoying the content. All the best with your intercooler clean and catch can! Cheers.

For sure, I agree with this. Keeping an eye on these units and replacing the filter elements at regular intervals is also important for safety and efficiency. Everyone will have their own opinion, however this video reflects my view on the matter. Cheers, Nathan.

Each to their own, but I’ll continue to leave this installed on my vehicle. Oil alone won’t do any damage, but it’s the combination of oil and EGR gasses that will slowly block the intake... leaves us wondering sometimes...

@@XploringOz In the video he states that catch cans are just catching the oil vapour before the engine can deal with it through its own ventilation. So my intercooler filled with oil begs to differ.

Yeah, I was also disappointed to note that the comments were turned off. The responses would have made for interesting reading.

@@noelomeara4137 Agreed.

Always take John Cadogan with a pinch of salt. I notice the very next video of his queued after I watched the catch can rant was about not buying a 2020/21 Honda... which kinda blows a hole in his own "reputable manufacturers know best" approach to avoiding catch cans.

I am mate, yep 👍

what interval are you replacing the filter at? @@XploringOz

About 20k kms 👍 @@kyleedgerton3698

I recommend it for most varieties of turbo diesel 4WD's, including Toyota's 2.8L engine in the Fortuner. It will hopefully prevent the build up of carbon and give maximum efficiency for longer. Cheers, Nathan.

Always keeping an eye on it 👍

Every engine will be a little different 👍

Stephen, mine has two valves. One to regulate crank case pressure in the side, as part of the outlet to air intake line, and one in the lid as a pressure relief valve, which vents to the engine bay. See these links below. Do you have a link to how the new ones work? I might have to get a new one... Crank case regulating valve kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pOBimKWkuN3bgac.html Pressure relief valve kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pOBimKWkuN3bgac.html

@@Michael_Mears no links, but the filter has the pressure valve in the base that opens and let the excess go into the intake. My understanding that this was due to emission requirements not allowing ventilation to the atmosphere, so if a person does not replace or empty the filter, it all goes back into the engine.

@@stephenbloomer567 No worries. I'll have to look into it and contact Western Filters about it.

Cheers mate, I'll look into that. The changes Wester Filters have made to their new 'IV' system would have to include increase emissions controls. Cheers, Nathan.

Hmm, could be an interesting experiment 🤔

I completely understand where you are coming from, however have a different opinion on the matter. I understand the role of the EGR system and am aware that it doesn't inject dirt into the intake system. I further understand that oil residue from the crankcase recirculation system (CRS) doesn't hinder engine performance. However the mixture of these two system in the intakes creates a sludge and restriction on the intake pipes and most definitely do effect engine performance/efficiency over time. Further, yes EGR system do slightly benefit fuel consumption and will help the engine run cooler, however this is nothing the standard variable cooling system can't handle. After all, all engines ran fine before EGR's. EGR's and CRS's are only added to reduce emissions, not to benefit the engines performance or longevity.

Do yourself a favour and go pull off the intake manifold of a recent diesel with a catch can and one without. You tell me which one is the healthier engine you. It seems you are the one that doesn't know what you are talking about.