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I am a PSA fan, but I'm not a fanboy. That's unacceptable no matter the price of the gun. I really like when this kind of stuff gets called out. It saves the consumer money and problems. And, if the company is even halfway decent, it encourages them to do better moving forward. Let's hope they want to fix it. I want to keep liking PSA.

As a Machinist of 30 years.004 is 4 states over from where you need to be.

As a tooling design engineer myself, I can confirm that 4 thousandths too small is a fricken MILE off unless you want to heat/shrink & press-fit to make a PERMANENT connection. Edit: it is also a dimension that the most basic, day-one shop class apprentice should be able to hit.

Rail is out of spec. I saved you 8 minutes.

PSA: (Public Service Announcement) Former Aero/BA machinist here. That right there- is some guy, who hates his job, coming in for the 12 hour overnight shift. Touching off on the machine. Seeing the machine out of spec, confirming with QC- and choosing to literally NOT chase the tolerances for the evening. That’s what that is. “They pay me 18$/hr so I’m not chasing the tolerances tonight. Fuck THAT. Fuck this old ass MAZOK”

At least you know they didn't cherry pick a review sample!

It’s part of the design, they undersize the rail on purpose, that way when you decide which pic rail you’re gonna put your mount on, you can hand file the slot to fit the exact size of the fastener on your mount so there is no way the zero can shift. PSA is playing 4D chess 💯

PSA could send you 10 of the same rifles, each & every one would be completely different.

As the machinist of your JAKAL I would like to formally apologize as I did not supervise my CNC machine and the CNC machine was drunk. Next time I will be sure to breathalyzer the machine prior to shift start.

I love psa because of what they're trying to do. I hate that they keep absorbing other companies/assets so often that they're physically incapable of getting all their qc teams to be on the same page.

School of the American Rifleman, TEMU edition.

Another blow to the elusive PSA QC department

This is what we call an "oopsie doopsie" in the medical field.

I redesigned the upper to fix the overheating issue, it’s cool to see they’re using my new design. Downside is they wouldn’t send me one to test and improve further. I’d argue PSA is the only company to ever watch my review that, wasn’t positive btw, and then watch my follow up where I ghetto dremeled their upper and make actual changes to improve the design. I’m not a shill, I’m actually always complaining they will not send us anything, especially after my design corrections. You could’ve gotten a bad model man; QC over at PSA is likely done by stoners and that’s definitely a new batch due to the redesign of the handguard portion- did you reach out to them about it at all?

The Garand Thumb shade seems oddly specific and almost personal.

"Good enough" for the "just as good" crowd.

To be fair, GT said he couldn’t give it a recommendation in good faith.

But John, all my favorite guntubers who never make negative reviews said the JAKL is good to go!

This made me curious, so I measured the pic rail on my JAKL and it came out to 0.205"-0.206" on all the slots, I also tested the same PLX scope mount and if fit perfectly. So I would send the upper back and request a replacement.

My only advice to anyone novice or “ expert” is to inspect and tear down a weapon prior to use. When our military gets new service rifles in they don’t take them out of the box, slap a optic on it , label it and issue it. There is a process the armors go thru where each weapon is inspected before issue. It’s done to Colt and any other brand that comes on base prior to issue. Screws are checked and lock tight if needed, function check ect. Out of spec rifles that can be fixed are and done end up as rejects then sent back to the manufacture. There was a time where Colt had a 12% return rate and many times procurement would question a contract due to this. I try to tell everyone that CNC machining is only as accurate as the operator and the bit doing the cutting. Any deviation from that will result in tolerances being off. Again, would you hop on a sport bike right out of the showroom and do 70 mph around a corner ? No. And again I have seen Glocks, Sig a, Barettas, and even Barrett’s brought thru that have failed basic QC inspection. It happens and the proper way to clean up the issue is by contacting the company to make them aware of the issue.

I can't imagine how fucking pissed I would be if I spent $1300 on a rifle that I couldn't mount an optic on. If this happened to me, I would get my money back and never buy a single thing from them again.

In GT’s video, he also recommends that an ar15 is a way better investment than the JAKL.

I have a ton of respect for this guy for speaking the truth. So Fing refreshing.

So you're saying a PSA product had a QC issue? Shocking news indeed lol. I'd imagine there's a whole batch of JAKLs that are like that.

You put that scope mount on about as genuinely as OJ tried putting on the glove in the courtroom.

I don’t if this exactly fair my friend has one and his both in spec and accurate and Mike has bombed on psa a couple of times when the product he got was bad. From Mike’s own lips he says he can’t trust the jakL simply because it’s untested and PSA QC has bad track record

Out of curiosity, I grabbed the two most common replies from FT. "The shilling worked" / "He also said to buy it 3 or 4 times and that it was better than many proven rifles" I am a lawyer by trade and really have an autistic itch for when people make arguments on bullshit half truths. So let's break this down. 1) At 3:49 in the GT video he states that, because of his currents sponsorship with AAC "I don't feel comfortable calling this a review". This video was his overview of the 2 jakl rifles he had shot at the time. 2) From 13:40 - 13:58 he plainly states, "The question about should I buy XYZ instead of an AR-15 goes to many different guns. That goes to many different guns; Bren 2, Scar L, CZ 805. There are ton of different firearms that offer a flavor different from the AR-15, and almost universally on this channel, we are going to say buy yourself an AR-15." Multiple times in this video he tells the viewer to buy an AR-15 INSTEAD of anything else as it will be more reliable and serviceable. 3) Furthermore, from 17:26 - 17:55 GT DOES point out something YOU should have. This is a small sample size, in your case one and in his two. However, he actually owns up to that fact. To quote, "I do find it to be a very reliable system. The one kind of caveat to that, is that we only have a sample size of two...It's hard to say if this is truly a combat rated weapon. My gut instinct tells me that this definitely needs more vetting and that's something that we can't do in the short amount of time we have had the weapon." 4) For final context, GT breaks down the issues facing many of these types of guns and that he cannot recommend a gun from "just his opinion" as it needs vetting from multiple sources. This occurs from 22:19 - 24:32. I will give you the benefit of doubt and say that you are being very very disingenuous when trying to paint GT as a shill. Maybe you cherry picked the video in order to support a lie, or maybe you just skipped over sections and did not get full context...I hope it is the latter. Either way, you clearly have some sort of motive / or bias guiding your actions in this video. I do not know if you are rage baiting or just angry at GT / Leviathan. The better and more neutral thing to have done would be, make a video explaining your issues with the QC from PSA, inform PSA about said issues, and show EVERYONE who might encounter this issue how the customer service was handled. Sometimes you get a lemon, this is why warranties exist.

Bro just has a little beef with GT I guess… im not saying you’re wrong the JACKAL is a bit over hype and is definitely not specked correctly. Trex Arms had some major problems with the system as well. Gt however, did not recommend getting it as a fighting rifle. You didn’t include that for some reason?

Please do not insult my airsoft replicas like that, I've never had a rail that out of spec before 😅

After watching this, I pulled out the JAKL and fitted 7 different mounts on the rail w/o a single issue. Any videos of Geissele rails out of spec? I have one right here that has the last 3 positions out of spec but it's going to be used anyway. Believe me, I understand, it's PSA!

It was in this moment they knew...they f***** up....😂

I get the feeling they machined this to the correct dimension, but didn't take the build-up after type 3 anodize into consideration, which can add about .002-.003" to each dimension. This is why the spec allows +.008". I've had to have some fun conversations with people who looked at my drawing and thought a + or - were the same as +/- (fixed line though)

Pretending not to be able to mount optics was comical.

For $200 more you can get the Bren 2.

8 minutes of the pic rails out of spec, Really. How does the thing run?

No matter which manufacturer you buy from, bad product is bound to slip through the door occasionally. I'm sure if this were a consistent issue, the internet would be a buzz.

You spent 8 minutes telling us it has an out of spec rail. Show us on the doll where psa hurt you.

Watching this guy try to mount a scope to the Jakl is like watching those inept people in infomercials.

Focus Tripp, doing Gods work for the 2A community! Thanks again!!

Well. Thats unfortunate. Im still.not getting rid of mine. Ive had it since well before the Garand Thumb video. This is inexcusable though. A 40 year old spec and they failed it

I understand ripping into PSA for this meme-level fail in basic qc, but insulting every PSA buyer is petty and counterproductive. First time I've ever td one of your videos.

Leviathan be Leviathaning

This is absolutely why I'm so cautious about giving my money to psa Because of their hit-and-miss QC. Been burned once already

This is inexcusable but Garand Thumb straight up said he couldn't recommend buying it in good faith for anything other than a range toy

Nobody, GT included takes the Jakl seriously, but you're gonna get a nice engagement boost from his likeness/character attack, so you should probably thank him. Not sure you want to expand your reach to the 2A community with CNN-level clip cherry-picking but good luck.

I mean in garandthumbs defense the PSA jackal may be dogshit but the scar is just as dogshit for $4000+

Its just like the dagger, a clone of picatinny. Missed it by thaaaaat much. Thaaaaat much in machining might as well be a country mile.

The good machinists in Columbia SC are across the street at FN

SHITS GOING DOWNN LETS GOOOO! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

This is a big reason why a lot of people like military rifle clones or civilian variants made by military contractors. The tolerances are all correct, the platforms are usually proven, and top engineers/machinists are working the production lines.

Fun fact that Northtac mat has one of my first rifles in the picture 💀 (I use to work there)

I feel like you are over reacting I know 3 people no issues. Optic mounted fine one has a EOtech with magnifier one with primary arms lpvo other with a vortex. Just get it replaced they have a warranty for this reason

Came for the PSA slander, stayed for the GT slander 😂

Thanks for your channel man, much needed and very refreshing.

None of the big guntubers toutes this gun as a fantastic and fully fleshed out replacement for what consumers are already buying (the ar-15). Many of them considered it a fun new range toy if you had money to spend on it, and that was pretty much it.

Maybe thickness of coating?? Either way I just use a standard ar

Integrity ❤

I worked as a CNC machine operator for around 2 years, so here is what I think. PSA is known for having QC issues, but that is probably why their prices are so low. They cut corners in terms of QC checks, which is a very expensive and time consuming thing when it comes to mass production of products. It's simply impossible to mass produce something while also doing QC checks on every part, so instead, the vast majority of companies check every so often. For the company I worked for, it depended on what the client wanted. If the client had a strict tolerance guideline, we would check 3-6 times a day, depending on how strict. If they had a lax tolerance guideline, we would check 2 times a day. Some were so strict, we checked nearly half the parts that were made. We never checked all though. Every time we checked a part on a machine that wasn't automatically loaded and unloaded, it would mean production was halted, which means no profit. QC checks can take anywhere between a few minutes, to even an hour or more depending on how complex the part was and how strict the client was on QC. What does this mean? Every company that mass produces will have bad parts that make it through. When you have an issue with PSA, they immediately fix it free of charge. Of course your going to run into more QC issues with PSA, its a given with any cheap mass producer. I do think they should step up their game when it comes to QC checks, but that of course, means they would have to increase their prices. I don't really buy from PSA all that much, actually, I have only purchased firearm parts from them once, and they worked fine for my cheap trash blasting AR upper. My guess on what happened, is the endmill or key cutter they used for cutting the slots was undersized since you said every slot was out of spec. Only real explanation I can think of, could be who ever operated the CNC machine that made that part put in the wrong bit when changing it out for what ever reason. My worry, is there is more uppers with this same issue, as if this one made it past, it typically means a few more did as well till they discovered what happened. Still, many other youtubers who received this seemed to have no issue, you could have just been unlucky.

This is why I just buy their lowers. Even more reason to be conscientious of their products and which ones are purchased...Thank you Jonathan.

Where is the rest of the review?

someone seems salty they didnt get the good QC freebie lol

The follow up videos are going to make my week with all the guntuber / PSA fanboys seething in the comments.

PSA being PSA, 60% of the time, they're good every time 😎

T.Rex Arms had the barrel come loose after like 300 rounds. These things are garbage.

my problem with the GT review was that he waited until the very end to say he still wouldn't recommend it yet. its front loaded so heavily with positivity, im sure many PSA viewers who were already interested in the Jakl did not watch 25 minutes into the video to hear Mike say that

You found an upper with a messed up rail and you want to act like this is a nail in the coffin for a company and a KZfaqr who you hate? You might want to consider your own biases first before you start trying to call other people's integrity into question.

Focus always keeping it real. Thanks man

I've been a tool maker and machinist for a very long time now I don't exactly run production parts but I do make tools that are for running production parts from all the videos I've seen on the poor specs of psa products I've come to the conclusion that nobody at pas has ever had experience in the production or machine industry before they started there company I'm pretty sure the main problem is they have no idea of tool bit life the big places that run aerospace parts only cut so many parts with that particular cutting bit (mostly endmills) before tool bit change is required doing this helps keeps tolerance on your parts the other thing is the CNC mills need to be ran through a backlash program regularly if there QC department had any knowledge of what they were doing they would know this remember people your parts are only as good as your machines and tools they should hire me to manage their QC program it would change their reputation big time

I've watched and read a ton of Jakl reviews and I'm surprised that this is the first time I've heard of this issue. I'm wondering if this is a new mashining error.

I applaud PSA for vastly improving their QC over the years. Hopefully by next year they'll actually have their QC process ready for the mass market!

I don’t get it, Grandthumb said it wasn’t a review, he also didn’t recommend it…. Finally I’ve had seen some shit QC from Eotech, Daniel Defense, Colt, etc. The tone in this video is just kinda shit…. Did you check more than one, you shouldn’t have to but this seems to be a use case of one.

Be interesting to see how common it is with these guns sure is a lot of them on the internet with optics mounted to them??? They obviously dont have the QC department of a gun company that has been around for 40+ years that is known. Does this guy have a conflict of interest selling ARs against PSA??? I’m just curious most people would have called a company right away they got a new gun and there expensive scope mount won’t attach to pic rail … should it happen?? Hell no but things happen I’m sure that is all CNC milled and the bits where out of tollerance on that one and you’d rather it be tight than loose so it’s a fine line … one employee whose job it is to run that process could be having a bad day and not checking the uppers as well as he should and if your making hundreds of these a day and assembling thousands your not going to go through and gauge ever pic slot on every gun they prob do random lot inspections. They are building them in the US and I can only imagine the trouble in finding good employees 100% of the time and sales people aren’t QC people so one bad QC guy on his way out the door could really skunk some stuff up. Prob should of sent them the gun back and had them send you another one could still make the video showing people but for sure PSA makes rails that have correct PIC specs … People would be very surprised to know that every manufacturer sends out guns with out of spec pic rails occasionally… AR15 forums I’ve seen this a lot over the years Steyr, Sig , IWI etc… one thing for sure is every manufacturer will replace the rail for you just contact them I’m sure PSA would do the same.

Dangerous going after the elite establishment like that with the GT call out....S storm headed your way. Much respect for what you do.

PSA is junk and their customer service is an absolute joke. Done with them. Have a look at the inconsistency in the "annealing" of their ammo. It'll make you constantly fearful of a squib. Oh, and they list and send items to FFL's that do not exist and could care less about your feedback suggesting the removal of those non existent FFL's. They do however expect you to cover return shipping costs for their stupidity. And despite their claims, they in fact do care about maximizing profits over anything else.

Aaaand this is another reason i dig your channel

I’d like to see multiple JAKL uppers tested. Could be just an example of one.

I wonder how all those name brand Guntubers fit optics on it. I’ve seen a half dozen on different channels. Also waiting for my first PSA QC issue after about 10k total through 2 different uppers

I got lucky and got a good one, so far. Have a lot of rounds through it without any issues and it did perform perfectly in super cold weather this winter up here in AK. My ARs have issues when it gets that cold. But… my AKm does good in the cold too

I used to recommend PSA without hesitation. I ordered a BCG from them in the end of December, they took till February to get it to me then refused to respond to my RMA request till May for an item with a fragile DLC coating that fully swallowed a field gauge. When they finally responded they told me that was normal...Swallowing a field gauge on a brand new bolt and barrel is normal to PSA, selling a grenade as a rifle is normal to them. I got my money back but I have to say, this is a completely different company from the one I started doing business with in 2016 and got 5 rifles through. They are now one I will not be doing further business with.

Weird. And mine has no issues. Their QC needs a lot of work.

This sounds almost like the raw piece was made to spec but the coating process added too much material? Is that a black cerakote finish?

I thought PSA was pretty cool until I learned of their AK rivet situation.

That sucks. I have a JAKL in 300 BO which I have had great luck with so far with reliability and swapping out accessories. But when I made the purchase, I knew it was a gamble because PSA isn’t known for consistent QC.

I think you should be fair, Mike from GT did say he wouldn't recommended it more than a range toy. I get that you are pissy about the rail being out of spec, but there is no reason to rip on other people in the community especially when you are taking them out of context. This is no difference than our bogus propaganda MSM, don't go to their level. Still love you content and have been sub'd to you for years. I just don't like the drama and the infighting, but I am glad you are bringing up QC issues. Cheers!

Ok, so 8 minutes of redundant and repetitive ‘the rails out of spec’. Could have covered that in 2 minutes and spoke to other stuff, but nah you probably plan on dragging it out to a bunch of videos to feed off of the psa hater side. Cool

I just got my 3rd Jakl and have zero issues putting my ACOG or holosun 510C on it.

The reason I bought a PSA for my first rifle was because I wanted to establish a baseline. The only rifles I shot growing up were like custom Daniel Defense’s and LMT customs (I had some very rich relatives haha), so I wanted to know what the somewhat practical bottom of the barrel was actually like so I can understand what is wrong with it and know where the sore spots of the AR15 are in general, or what will need extra attention or improved components, and not only know about this stuff in my head from reading about the design and manufacturing processes of these things, like reading about the challenges the ar15 had to overcome and must still overcome, what problems or potential problems will manifest as, how they will affect the gun, and how to best address the problem, whether through design modification or through higher durability components. And I don’t want only Learn about how to identify all these things just by just like looking at pictures of guns with problems or watching peoples videos I want to be able to feel and experience and directly understand what can go wrong and get this knowledge now on something that’s cheaper and also because Palmetto is making extremely basic guns that are usually just trying to be straight mil spec carbines or whatever else like that. Most Americans with ARs over the last several decades have just been using cheap m4 carbines with 16” barrels, and so I thought it would be worthwhile and interesting to use basically the same thing that most other people have been using for a long time and to see what most people deem to be acceptable to some extent But as I moved more from the engineering side of the AR to learning more about the consumer side and the social aspect of the gun, im discovering that most people are filthy liars and utterly defensive , oh and that they are all extremely dogmatic even in the total absence of knowledge or any level of understanding, they will be sure to tell you how this gun is different, this one is actually best hahrhxhahdj So I’ll be shooting my PSA until it fails, and then buy something better while I RMA the gun with PSA, and then sell the gun to someone else to start their learning journey Do I regret it? A lil, but it’s taken me a pretty long time to gain enough knowledge that I can understand exactly what’s wrong with it and now know exactly what features in other rifles I am going to look for, especially ones that have have custom “enhanced” parts, I.e. design modifications Currently I am considering Daniel Defense, BCM, LWRCI, Radian, Larue, Geissele, KAC, ADM, Cobalt Kinetics, POF, PWS If anyone has recommendations, I am looking for an AR that is fairly light, 14.5-16” bbl, running with or without suppressor, tapered barrel (light weight profiles would be fine), with robust rail mounting system (doesn’t have to be too insane, but I definitely want something that has a hard locking interface with the barrel nut or whatever they might use), and it should improve on the mil spec as much as possible, whether designs or materials. I need something I can run hard and that can take abuse if needed, it has to be something so well made that I almost never have think about the gun

Conflict of interest. Lol

Well that's no good. Always find truth on this channel. Love it. Thanks for being you tripp

FYI the tolerance is not + 8 ten thousandths. It is + eight thousandth. Which is .206” nominal, +.008” and -.000” tolerance. Bottom line is send it back and get one made to print. Manufacturing OOTs (Out Of Tolerance) happens. They will make it right. Not that big of a deal. PSA makes great product and they stand behind them.

i got burned by a GT recommendation and then started to become wise to the industry wide grift of influencer marketing. They do a good job hiding it and you're doing the lord's work my guy.

Little youtuber calling out big youtubers for clout should've been the name of the video.

As a machinist who made handguards for 2 very well known AR mfg. I would not worry about .002/.003 of an inch on the rail. The undercut to the top of the rail is most important, as well as the width and angle pitch. To me this is like complaining about rolling marks on the inside of a bcm bolt carrier.

Yeah…9holes had a great and very specific review. They even mentioned TREX’s review about the quality control complaints. 9hole was more impressed with the idea that a small manufacturer could build a relatively new rifle because they already manufacture AR15s. The wobble in the stock bugged both hosts.

As someone who used to do "factory sent" reviews of parts/accessories/ and a few guns my question is why didn't you contact them about the out of spec receiver?... Personally i have had bad stuff sent to me and when i contacted them they made ALL the arrangements to send it back and sent out New product...

He proved that he got a bad gun, and Garand Thumb didn't get a bad gun. Does that 100% indicate that all PSA products are garbage? No, I own several of their products. They all run totally fine. Does this prove Garand Thumb to be a liar and horrible shill? Also no, he had a totally functional product from them just like I do. One bad manufacturing error doesn't mean much.

Shill gun. I saw another review where the handguard keep yeeting itself off.

This is what you get when you buy from a manufacturer that inspects 10 out 500 parts

Can I be honest here? Is the PSA out of spec and annoying has hell? Yes. We can all agree on that. Was your wording a little overly harsh? "Paperweight" as an example? Honestly, I'd say so. You kind of spat in their face for giving you a free review rifle. If I was a company and you gave a bad review that's one thing, but you also gave a spiteful bad review. In my mind as a company, I don't know if there's much value in having you on because you are just going to take that spit further across the product line. Is it right for you to point out PSA's badly made products? Yes. Could it have been done in a more professional manner? Also yes. Just my opinion. I think you could have stayed in PSA's good graces while also bringing to light the bad product at the same time.