Seen loads of men players do that, nothing gets said. So you’re saying that men cheat also when they do this. Shame you don’t show that.

@@andyclark8991 ok, Serena...

Taking a page out of Agassi's book against Kucera at the US open 1998. Or a page out of Kucera's book. Kucera kept re-doing the toss against Agassi during that match, so Agassi got pissed and use the same tactic against Kucera, making him taste his own medicine. Swiatek's re-tossing was completely justified lol

@@TheseHoesAreLoyal Exactly.

What's a re-toss, please?

@@Hammster_MCR Re-toss: Iga throws the ball above her head to serve, but doesn't swing. Thus, she does a re-toss. - Chris

Putinseva is awesome. No, she'll never win a major nor even crack into the top 20, now she's closer to retirement. But she's been a fireball of a player. In her career she's been way more interesting and entertaining than ninety percent of all players on the tour. The sport needs personalities like Yulia.

Gauff is becoming one also...

@@vskane nope .....

😂😂yeah!!!!!- SPOT ON!!!!!!!

And Kostyuk I think

exactly like that, it doesn't matter what your opponent does, what matters is how you react to it. Iga played a great match and behaved brilliantly.

no change of shoe laces

Cheating is when you jump in front of the net , trying to keep the player from hitting the ball. Who is known for that?

There is no rule to say the receiver has to stand still. Would be nuts

@redplague she didn’t complain🤷🏻‍♀️

ok, noted

Hinderance ?

There isn’t but there is a rule of hindering the opponent. It was obvious what she was doing !

Unless there's anything prohibiting it, I think it's a clever strategy. It must exhibit mobility and not hindrance. If it's a problem the rules should more clearly define it. "Can the receiver move during a serve in tennis? A player may change position at any time, including while the server is tossing a ball. Any other movement or any sound that is made solely to distract an opponent, including, but not limited to, waving arms or racket or stamping feet, is not allowed." "Can you move before the serve in tennis? There is no rule about this. In fact you will notice that a lot of the top players have moved a great deal before the server has actually hit the ball."

Learn to inform yourself before saying anything. "A player may change position at any time, including while the server is tossing a ball. Any other movement or any sound that is made solely to distract an opponent, including, but not limited to, waving arms or racket or stamping feet, is not allowed." And before you say "Uhhh, ohh, but it say a player may change position"" NO. A player may change position for a return, but is not allowed to move in an deliberate manner to distract the opponent

Alcaraz is in the top ten

@@user-gs3nz8xj5xhes Spanish it doesn’t count

You are all idiots, there are no rules saying the receiver has to stand still and watch the serve go by. Be sensible. Obviously the receiver can jump about move wherever they want. Get over yourselves, Osapenko has shown how easy it is to beat Swiatek on every meeting and she certainly is not cheating or acting like a monkey at the net as Swiatek did against Osapenko.

Agreed, and some movement is permitted when receiving so it's a matter of degree. Call it gamesmanship, but certainly not cheating.

I don't see the big fucking deal. Also she's kinda cute but that's beside the point LOL.

Actually, she didn't get a warning, chair umpire just told her to stop - Anyway, I agree, it is more a desperate move, a signal to the opponent that you have no good answer.

It’s a bunch of movement and she ends up in the same spot. The point is to distract.

@@aznbacon321 That's obvious. Umpire told her to stop it, and she did.

You obviously have never played any sport at a higher level 🤷🏾‍♂️ Everyone will cheat depending on the situation

​@@Dancingontgesun1942not everyone, it's a lie

if that is "cheating" then I'm afraid that "true sportsmen" are toxic to the sport of tennis, since when a legal move is made by a player to play to the best of his abilities within the rulebook, it can only benifit the sport. If a move is declared damaging to the sport the rulebook may change to treat it differently. A true sportsman, I say, is one who plays within the rulebook and to the best of his abilities

Then you also suggest that true sportsmen don't wave their hands at the net, trying to ruin the opponent's point? Yes, I agree 😏 Oops 😆

@@amused2death775 exactly, Iga has been doing it a lot.

Ptdrrr sorry for you it’s not 😌

Opponent is to move after the serve, not before

Sabalenka is a cheat for vocalising on her own swing? Tennis rules on hinderance are written down. That doesn't appear in them.

LOUD GRUNTS/SCREAMS ARE NOOOOT...IT IIIIIS NOOOOOOOOOT. GOT IT? Grow a brain.

@@vskane ONLY Aryna? Are you racist? Because if you are prejudice, or a bigot, you must be a racist.

You can generally move around in a consistent way, but you can't do it like she was doing it at the beginning of clip. You can't create a distraction right when a person is about to hit. It's like playing pool, and everytime you are about to hit, the person does something.

@@Mr7Poz It' nothing like pool at all. Your opponent moving in preparation for the serve in absolutely part of the game, it is not in pool.

@@davidhale8034 it’s so obvious that her movements weren’t for the intention of getting into position for the serve. She was jumping erratically to create noise and visual disturbances. That’s hindrance. You’ve no brain cells.

@@davidhale8034 Putinseva was moving before Swiatek began her ball toss. That's not preparing, that's attempting to distract.

Putinseva didn't appear to break the hindrance rule, but it was obvious she was attempting to throw off Swiatek's serve....all perfectly legal but seems to indicate that she had no confidence in her ability to beat Iga.

It was OK for her to do it on the second serve but not to continually change positions on the first serve. That’s what was happening.

No big deal...just serve the ball...if Poots is out of position she can't hit the ball.

​@redplague she did it two times, and she never did it again. Putinseva using her tricks all the time...

not a sole came here to find out if you can stand her or not... this is not all about you

@slowery43 where did I say I can't stand her? I said her unsportsmanlike behaviour is horrendous......learn to read before commenting fool

Swiatek isn't better tho

Ya her witch move she looked like a splattered witch who hit a window with her flying broom

You jumped around? Why? The only intent of jumping around right before the service is to throw off the server. It absolutely does not help a returner's positioning. This is very different behavior from a returner's normal pre-serve movement. I would like to stand real deep and gradually creep forward prior to my opponent starting his service. I did this to keep loose. My routine was completely unnoticed by the server, as it should be.

@@PeacefulPariah My moving around is as you describe too. I even mentioned it by being in constant motion to be able to react better. Seriously you took what I said, said you do the same and then say I'm distracting yet you aren't. Seriously! I serve based on where I think I have the best chance. So I consider where the receiving player will be on my serve. Left right front back all the same and it's not to distract but to keep them guessing to where to serve. Why do players hide their drop shots. So is it a distraction because the receiving player doesn't know where the ball will go? Why doesn't the server tell the receiving player where s/he will be serving. Sorry, don't agree that it's a distraction. Deception. Which is part of the game.

@@PeacefulPariah Nonsense. All players who are taught properly are taught to split-jump. That's jumping. This is jumping that, if the server was looking, would be noticed by said server. And it occurs before the ball has been hit, or just as it's being hit. And all good tennis players do it. It most definitely _does_ help a returner's ability to move more quickly in response to the eventual direction of the serve. I suggest you look it up before continuing . . .

Possible hindrance.

@@BestMuscleVideo How often did you accuse Roger Federer of cheating with his SABR moves? At a guess, I'd say about as many as anybody did . . . zero. So what's the difference now?

jumping around is legal

I think moving right after the server strikes the ball is OK, but moving around as the server is about to serve can be looked upon as deliberate distraction.

its a ridiculous video and argument here, jumping arround is and has always been allowed and been done. Gosh... Federer even has been applauded for such moves (sneak attack). Just that the discussion is hypcrite, depending if the "good ones" or "bad ones" are doing it. Iga Swiatek is known for much worse things that are actually really considered and categorized as "hinderance" like hitting on the hardcourt ground with the racquet (to make this distracting clicking noise) while the opponent is serving, but I have never seen her to be punished for it (but for most other "bad girls" though, they were punished). If Iga is distracted by a moving returner, then she is really mentally weak.

​@@user-vl8ez6zv1v when exactly this alleged clicking had happened?

@@user-vl8ez6zv1v You are absolutely right. At least I know in club tennis, sometimes once the opponent tosses you can guess where he is going and move that direction. Honestly I don’t see what is wrong with it.

Also, it’s Iga’s job to control her nerves and how she reacts to external stimuli.

Although Swiatek's previous incidents of hand-waving at the net is not allowed as it's hinderance.

Great comment, but it got me wondering, was the underarm serve considered not in the spirit of the rules? Regarding rules and the spirit of the rules, so long as everyone is playing by the same rule book then anything in the rule book is fine. Rules are open to interpretation obviously, and to start talking about the 'spirit of the rules' (I DO get what you're trying to say) seems unnecessary and an abstraction too far. I also think that players who are generally disliked are disliked on grounds OTHER than playing within or without the 'spirit' of the rules - generally folk don't like them on account of perceived pride and arrogance.

???

It's bad form, it is bush league. There are unwritten rules in all sports. People can scoff at or criticize the existence of these unwritten rules, but decorum/etiquette is important. Yes, the goal is to win, but how you win matters.

@@PeacefulPariah I take it you complained when RF executed his SABR move? Or is he a good'un, while the lady in question here is not?

its made up bullshit. I am not defending Putintseva being a nice player, but this is not cheating. Its fully legal... only that Iga has "special" treatment and a very weak mental game.

Correct

like Iga does like to do. I got your side stitch here ;)

She tried an underhand serve earlier in the match. See it here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/j7x1a9qLrJiaYIk.htmlsi=RlQ61qDUd_4-bswb

She can leave shitty russia, but shitty russia never leave you.

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Nah, he was one of the good ones. Putinseva is obviously one of the bad ones. Different standards, in a totally non hypocritical way of course . . . cough . . .

I believe even Ostapenko behaves better and it is hard to say that Ostapenko has sportmanlike behaviour.

@@Introverder absolut ridiculous comment. You have no clue about tennis and not even sense of what is right or wrong.

I played college too. And I did it, but not as bad as she did. It's a fine line.

Nope.

its not. This is one of the most ridiculous videos about "cheating" I have ever seen in KZfaq, as it is a very legal and justified action. If you play tennis correctly, one of the first things you learn is to make jumps as a returner to react faster based on the high speed of the serve.

Moving side to side unnecessarily to throw your opponent off is considered hindrance....I wouldn't call it cheating but it's definitely hindrance

bullshit @@sweetandsavoury

@@sweetandsavoury No it is not. It is a deception, sure, same as disguising a drop-shot. I'd love to hear you explain your argument to RF when he was doing his SABR moves.

@@DustyDingoPhotos it is idiot the commentators even stated it 🙄

Iga has done worse waving her arms when she at the net in the past

She's also a cheat waving her arms around to put off her opponent during rallies

Agree.both has terrible bad attitude.boo🤪

Settle down, Beavis. It's not war in the Middle East. And several players move like Ostapenko during the opponent's serve. It's part of coaching cuz you're trying to get a jump on the serve, whichever way it goes.

She is from Kazakhstan

Also, what about in many other matches when Swiatek waves her hands in the air when her opponent is about to hit an easy put away shot. I like Swiatek, of course, but definitely should be called a hindrance. But they don't call it.

Thank you sir

Do you even know what is definition of legend? I doubt that.

nice try, CNN believer. you've read NOTHING about the history of the conflict, doubtless.

@@artempakora7967 probably you know better 😀 Fine with that. Have a good day!

Wrong. 100% legal

@@hankhanson2534 it is what I said…not illegal