Having the plants be pre selection doesn’t sound like a good idea for creating puzzles. A huge part of the puzzle solving is asking your self “what plants would work well with these zombies and with this yard layout”. Not letting you choose and picking the plants for you just turns it into “where do they want me to place these plants” which isn’t super fun when there is only like, three logical places for each plant and all of them work fine.

1:37 Snow pea and torchwood is a crazy combo 💀

Dude they have 13 plants... PVZ 2 HAD 35 PLANTS AT LAUNCH BRUH

*Good thing:* TUGBOAT is in here! 😊 *Bad thing:* Tugboat is in HERE... 😔

The fact they called it a puzzle game while its still act like a tower defense games literally shows that modern devs have no passion in gaming and doesn't even know what genre they are

“PopCap are listening to us and I’m happy they are”. Be for real dude, be for real. They aren’t listening. They’ve implemented zero feedback from the last beta. And they won’t implement anything this time.

I honestly loved the game back in the first beta. It had way more plants and tacos and plant food. Tacos were such a cool twist adding pernament small buffs to plants. Sad that they scrapped such a good mechanic because it was such a smart idea

PvZ3 has been battered, bruised, beaten, and broken time and time again, that I start to wonder if the third game is destined to be cursed forever. PvZ1 and 2 have done so much, what else could PvZ3 do to actually be fun? To answer the question at the end as well, I don’t think that time is all that PvZ3 needs. It needs more resources as well. You can see the lack in budget pretty clearly, and it doesn’t help that most of that budget was probably poured into the previous version of PvZ3 that got pulled from existence. PvZ3 will always be cursed. The question is whether the curse can be lifted is something we will see in a future that not even Rose can see into.

They're not even fucking puzzles, that's the best part of it. Puzzle design is very difficult and requires thoughtful planning and intuitive design (I've tried making a puzzle game before, did not go well). Popcap is just pumping out randomly generated slop at breakneck pace and calling it a "puzzle." It reminds me a lot of Angry Birds 2, which has hundreds of randomly generated levels that all take place in the same couple locations. Even if they do add seed selection, it won't help the game. There's hardly any plants to pick from, and most of them either suck or are busted. Like, if you could pick plants, why pick sunflower over sun shroom? Or Lightning reed over, well anything really. If anything, adding seed selection without major balancing/reworks will only decrease level variety because the only good strat would be using bonk choy, walnut, and squash. Also thank you for saying tugboat isn't funny. People keep saying he's the best part of the game but him saying his name isn't funny at all.

I can confirm that this game is in fact… boring!

If boring exist pvz 3 is the meaning of boring

You better take that back about my boy tugboat. He’s a gangster a killer a murder and he won’t hold back against you. Any ways great video loved it have a good day.

At least there are SOME good things about it For example: Tugboat

I'm on lvl 60 and haven't lost once they have ruined the fun of it being able to play with plays you want and losing was all the fun

When I first saw a little bit of the gameplay, I was immediately like “Peashooter what did they do to you?!” I don’t like how they brutalised my boi.

Honestly the very first beta was the most fun for me despite the Clash Royale-ness of it lol

The best compliment I can give to this game is that it makes the other pvz titles look masterpieces in comparison with this game, yes even BFN looks better compared to this game..

PvZ 3 is a game that exists.

one of the games major problems for me is that it will just not let me progress unless iv used power ups. Iv got to a level where iv got no power ups and its impossible to beat without them so the game is forcing me to spend money

And I agree, I love the art style, the plants look so cute and nice, what I HATE the most is that difficulty thing where it punishes you for being good at the game, the way it pushes insane amounts of zombies into the lanes when you have like 3 sun flowers planted, this is worse in later levels I'm on level 200+ rn and the "hard" or "very hard" levels are such a pain to play, plus the ticketing thing is so wack on later levels, you have to play 4 levels to do something, at least give us like extra tickets for defeating hard levels... This game is such a mess...

You know what this game is missing? The freedom to pick your own plants, what made pvz fun in the first place was the endless varieties for strats. I hated the survive with the given plants stages in pvz 2, now they made a whole game about it

Nuh uh. I need my choose your seeds or I'm sending Doom Shrooms at EA/Popcap's door

As someone who’s played pvz3. It sucks. I couldn’t get past like level 10. And I noticed the dynamic difficulty at like level 8 or something. I didn’t even know it was dynamic difficulty at the time. Remember when pvz2 had dynamic difficulty. Yeah everyone hated it which is why they removed it. It’s not gonna resurface better. Also if it’s a puzzle game make it a spin-off or something. Yeah PvZ gw, heroes, adventures and most of the Chinese ones weren’t tower defence. But they were also spin-offs. I thought the numbers were used for actual t.d styled games I’m also bad so that’s probably why level 8 was hard for me

If they add choose your plants i would literally oblirated pop cap's sh*tty levels with bonk choy spam sun shroom snow pea lightning reed and lastly wall nut

I got from level 1 to 60 without break, and by the end of my session I felt like the one trying to get through the lawn to crazy dave👽👽👽

This game not just boring. This is offensive

I wish they would revitalize the scrapped project hot tub I think it was called. It was like a tomb raider-esk style game and it looked really cool but they abandoned it like 6 or so years ago

HE HATED ON TUGBOAT GET HIM

I swear if they just remastered PV1 with better graphics, new content, plants etc, it would sell like crazy

I mean there's 150 levels that you can beat in about two days if you actually grind this game hard. After that there's nothing really that much maybe for the exception of vase breaker and daily rewards. This game could actually have potential if they could add la PvP mode or something. Either way, new plants are upcoming so I guess that's still something.

The pre-selected plants issue reminds me of Angry Birds, but not as a problem, just that the birds had an intended way to be used in a stage. Plants here feel restrictive, SPECIALLY when RNG difficulty kicks in and plops random zombies in you. The stage doesn't change mid game in Angry Birds, but here it basically does.

You mentioned the almost chibi-like style and I remembered of DS PVZ, which I remember liking so much I emulated it once

2:53 Won’t lie. Hearing Sylvia actual swear in a video caught me off guard a little bit

The best part is the lawnmower killing the young plants and turning the garden into a goreden

Pvz3 should have all the plants from pvz1. Some lore along with the heroes, better graphics,epic music and a actual zombot boss battle that is like the pvz1 boss fight. THAT WAY PVZ3 CAN BE AMAZING!

The devs still haven't learn their lesson from bfn removing the original features that made their game popular was a mistake like whats the point of getting rid of those they literally made they're game this popular

Also, the game just straight up plagiarized Gardenscapes/Homescapes, which is a game about a man named Austin who's inherited the mansion of some rich ancestor or something, i don't know, and you have to solve puzzles in order to progress which is just a matching game like Candy Crush Saga. At this rate, I want any action for any act of plagiarism especially in the mobile game industry. As said before, ideas aren't 100% original, but that doesn't mean you can copy anything and pass it down as your own, you have to take multiple ideas and add your own ideas in order to make something more original. I like the original PvZ game. PvZ 2, eh not so much. I like it because of nostalgia, and it doesn't have cheap gimmicks like limited life/energy systems, but it still has the nostalgic plants behind paywalls. What's also bizarre is the port transition of PvZ. We got the PC game called Plants Vs. Zombies(with a few console/mobile ports), but then PvZ 2 is played on mobile, and so is PvZ 3.

Idk if my Wi-Fi sucks or smthn, but I just re-downloaded pvz2 and it was really low quality and blurry, the colours were off the music was fried and it was like 5 fps, either I downloaded a fake, my internet sucks, or they lowered the quality just so you would download pvz3

Holy shit, I did not know they put Dynamic Difficulty in. That's just shitty in a game with a life system. Well, you learn something new every day.

Played it, super boring

PvZ3 mods will make the original game more fun.

Just started playing PvZ 2, which is A LOT of fun. Only played PvZ 1 when it came out. Not downloading this version, thanks for saving me the trouble.

After level 145 the game becomes so easy that the only level I had to try twice was because I answered my phone and forgot to pause. The so called story is a dreary chore.

I have actually played the game a little bit and here is my opinion. First of why is there a SUCH A LONG STORY I no joke everytime I beat the level I get a Ticket and just ignore it I want constant action with pvz1 you can instantly get in a new level. In pvz2 you can also continue nearly instantly but you get kicked out to then you feel kinda forced to watch a cutscene and if you dont watch it you have do watch everything in the end. The levels do feel repeating and it just does not have a minigame section like pvz1 it does not have events like pvz2 it doesnt have a garden a cool game gimmick like pvz2. It also should not be a puzzle game and i know it cant be changed probably but still pzv franchise it started as a tower defense i feel you cant just change it. I am also not far in the game but you dont have like world progression there aren't world there aren't different and cool looking, very different areas like the roof or backyard and all these worlds have different gimicks so they feel special the game it is al very same looking. But the main problem is that it isnt a pvz game look at the first pvz game and look at this one tell me what is the same next to the lanes and a few plants not even all plants make a comeback this game has less plants and pvz1 and 2 every so often you get a new plant or something like the garden I am at about level 15 and I have 4 plants in total it just doesnt feel rewarding in pvz1 every level you get something interesting maybe a diffecult level after with a interesting gimmick or a plant in pvz2 you can see when you get something interesting if the level has lines on the world map here it is just random oh i got a random plant after completing a boring level no interesting levels or gimmicks. But it is slow paced and has an horrible difficultie system and if you do too bad you lose a part of energie(wich all childhood franchises do, look at angry birds). Wich makes you feel you cant sit here and inprove over time you are just forced to wait. All the zombies are very same feeling and looking and not exiting, look at pvz1 and pvz2 zombies they are interesting maybe some are annoying like wizard but it is something interesting that adds to a level. My opinion, they need to practicly completely redesign the game to a interesting gane with gimmicks and something fun every so often if it is an extra plant or something like a garden and to make it feel like you are progressing. Also they need to make it a tower defense but they wont do that probably.

I never been satisfied so much with such a beautiful video like this one, i do agree that this game is indeed so freaking boring and it’s so goddamn repetitive, plus it lacks of stuff like plant food, freedom of choosing our plants, conveyor belt stages, almanac, zen garden, plant level system and many more things, it’s just not fun at all and it gets so annoying and frustrating at a certain point but yeah the art style is amazing but the Gargantuar looks so odd and i hope they’re gonna balance the levels much more and add all the stuff from the previous games otherwise i'm not gonna ever play this boredom of a game. But meanwhile let's keep enjoying PVZ 2 and Heroes and hopefully they will make a brand new update about this last one.

Tugboat is nostalgia. Tugboat was in the pvz comics I read as a kid. Tugboat is life

When I played I also found it boring, the game play just wasn't fun, it was dull, the art looks good to me, I like the comic book cut scenes but if I want to see those I could just find them online without having to slog through level after level

Potato mine is my favourite starting plant feels lame not having it.

They even made it like Gardenscapes

Feels like megamind vs the doom syndicate all over again...

I don't approve of the artstyle. I LIKE the artstyle, but i don't approve of it. Not for a mainline PvZ game.

To be honest I was really mad about the pre picked plants thing BUT.... when I actually played the game, the game had just a few plants, so the pick ur own plant is just useless

food water atmosphere

is there gonna be more maps like the lava one that was in the beta

Of course it is boring because pre-level 116 every level is easy as f*ck, after 116 it gets near impossible to finish without power-ups. Game is too hard thats why its not really that boring since its very challenging. Though I agree the game sucks, could've been better.

Hope your hrt is going well sylv

1:33 why are you useing snow pea, then placing down a torch wood to turn the frozen pea into a normal pea, then placing more torchwoods to make it a flaming pea. Just use a peashooter 😭

Bro the thing I’m most mad at is that the sun numbers don’t. Say like 50 on the icon or 100 on the icon

So bad timing for it but I like tugboat looks so happy 😂 it so random but it needs more depth maybe he worked in a shipyard or on a tugboat add some back story 😅 yeah it needs more work5:28

Just looking at the gameplay and I'm like that: where are all the special Zombies? Where are all the Plants? That's IT???

great editing improvement! keep it up!

I never really played this game but I did watch pretty much all of the content from the most recent soft launch. And... Yeah, this is difficult to watch for an extended period of time without getting bored. I can only imagine how bad it is when actually playing it

Lol i just discover your channel and it results that you just uploaded a video

my biggest issue with pvz3 is instead of trying to make a gardenscapes-esque system work with pvz, it felt tile they just slapped pvz levels into gardenscapes and called it a day. it would’ve worked so much better if the stuff that you did in the “story segments” as ill call them, actually had an impact on the pvz levels. believe it or not, there’s a game that exists which is very similar to pvz3, -both are tower defense games -both have an alternate game style alongside the tower defense portions that is in a genre popular among mobile games -both have you complete tower defense levels to progress in the other game style -both have banging soundtracks one of the main differences is that the other game is actually really good i’m talking about Bloons Monkey City BMC is a tower defense, city-builder spin-off of btd5. in BMC, you build a city, like most city builders, but to capture a piece of land, you have to play a short tower defense stage, and the building you build help you in said tower defense stages, by unlocking new upgrades or allowing you to use more towers. that just listed another difference between the two games. in BMC, the gameplay loop is: play tower defense levels to get space to build more buildings to help me with more tower defense levels. you see? the two types of gameplay feed into and compliment each other. contras that with pvz3: you play disconnected tower defense levels to get taco tickets to progress in the story, with no effect on the levels. you see? the only real “loop” in this gameplay loop is completing (bad) pvz levels till either you give up, get to the end of them, or the sun explodes. they don’t feed into each other, which makes the experience as a whole feel lesser.

I miss the part where i can pick my favorite plants

Pvz3 has the garden scapes vibe

"This game doesn't have selectable seed slots" Popcap 3 months later:

Agreeeeeeee 10000000%. Went back to playing PVZ2

I am mad that every level doesn't let you choose seeds

I don’t find the gargantuas hideous, I find them a bit unsettling

Here's hoping modders will fix PvZ3 or at least make it suck slightly less.

Pvz3 is a video game that can be played. There is nothing else to say about it.

I'd try the game if it didn't crash my phone after every few levels, but c'mon what's there to try? You've got your fantastic variety of about 5 plants across way too many levels with from what i've seen, a really crappy amount of zombie types, and the main point of pvz is entirely missing. They *say* it's a puzzle focused game now yet keep the exact same style and genre of pvz's tower defence. Placing the plants on the right predictable tiles doesn't have any entertainment in the puzzle thing they're going for.

sun shroom where? good vid

I didn’t have very high expectations for the game, but i’m still disappointed with how it turned out regardless. Plus the response from the company (or lack thereof) didn’t help. Very sad that it didn’t end up better, but at least we still have the masterpiece that is the first game.

Aren’t there only like 10 plants or something? Needs more time for sure

Those damn snow peas💀1:32

Yeah, looks whatever. I'm going back to the 2nd one.

Yet another great vid also play pvz expanded

Alright we got another video pretty good

It definitely is a game that does need more time on it (even though it has had enough time already). It's a decent game, repetitive and boring? I do agree with liking the artstyle though, that is a highlight. I just wish it was like PvZ/PvZ2 more

I think “boring” is incredibly tame. It’s sad what this has become, or, well, what it *failed* at becoming, I’m honestly more sad than anything and I feel hopeless the more they try 😭 The game just feels so… hollow and lifeless. It feels like the average sellout mobile game, unlike PvZ2 which had its own real vibe and charm, not to mention *actual* gameplay that improved on nearly every aspect of its predecessor, PvZ1. Everything I loved was sucked out and they *degraded* the core gameplay by oversimplifying it to a STAGGERING degree. It’s such a shame, too… it had so much potential. 😔

Also, Beghould isn't enough, like... WHERE'S WHACK'A'ZOMBIE!?

I dont tolerate that slander on my boi tugboat

yeah I'm good at garden scapes td 3 i never lost a single time

I’m bound to PVZ by blood and channel name but by *ZomGod* do I avoid anything they make now like a bad stench.

It really disappoints me the direction this game is going in. PvZ is a franchise I hold near and dear to my heart, since it literally formed my childhood, but God I hate the direction that it’s going in the modern day. I want to love PvZ3 so hard, which I do in some aspects, but it still needs so much work to *be* a PvZ game; especially the third in the mainline games!

2:27 a puzzle game requires strategy. Plants vs. Zombies...relies on strategy... which makes it...already a puzzle game even when it had selectable plants no? What if the devs just restrict users to certain plants just for users to better strategise based on what they currently have and break the habit of reaching into the jar of powerful plants and cheesing levels?

I like tugboat and all but I prefer frog pants so this game is absolutely horrible ( I have also never played it)😔

I believe you are wrong tugboat is the best character being one of the 2 lucky comic characters returning

pvz 3 feels like an awkward at a pvz game almost like a knock off

All they needed to do was make it like pvz1 but no they wanted to change for the sake of change

How does the newest pvz look worse graphically to the first pvz

1:33 what in the tarnation..😂😂

It would take them nearly scraping everything except the art style to save this game.

Gana play no matter how boring it is. Also like the memes in the video 👍

SylviaYSI in my reccomended = good day

Ikr Short levels, Random Levels Bad levels, different difficulties boring, design is great but the gameplay

It would be fine if they named it like pvz welcome to zomburba or pvz epic battle but considering it the 3rd installment is actually werid

Ngl the original pvz3 build in 2020 was better just for the fact that they had more plants and pick your seeds at launch