Race Engineer Build Model T Stroker Engine! Ed Smith Shows and Tells us Some of his Tricks on a T

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9 ай бұрын

Race Engineer Build Model T Stroker Engine! Ed Smith shows and Tells us Some of his Tricks on a T.
What has a "T" Block, "A" Crank, Chevy 265 Piston, Ford Windsor Valves, and a bunch of mods learned in racing? This CUSTOM build Ed made for a friend...
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@genefogarty5395
@genefogarty5395 9 ай бұрын
I had a shop teacher in my HS days (early '90s) that I still talk to that was a dyed in the wool Ford flathead, A&T guy that learned from his dad. His daily driver was a Ford GPW (Jeep) with a warmed up 239" 21 stud flathead hooked to a Saginaw 5spd that I helped him machine an adaptor for in his home shop. It's STILL his main transportation! These are the guys like the fella in the video that need to be chronicled. Because their knowledge goes with them when they pass, then it's back to square one, lol. Thanks to my shop teacher, Pantelis "Peabrain" Safarian for teaching me the basics and not so basics that led to a life of time misspent getting greasy, angry, discombobulated, dumbfounded and having fun doing so. And I even learned a few Greek curse words along the way, lol.
@tjed1071
@tjed1071 9 ай бұрын
We make all kinds of oddball custom billet rods at Crower Cams in San Diego CA, if you need a set made.
@BarryTsGarage
@BarryTsGarage 9 ай бұрын
Sounds like you would make a good sponsor… 😜
@AmericasTeamAdventure
@AmericasTeamAdventure 9 ай бұрын
This guy is what hot rodding is about. So much to learn.
@alvingriggs6932
@alvingriggs6932 8 ай бұрын
if you can't learn from this man you never will. I can listen to him all day 👍
@BarryTsGarage
@BarryTsGarage 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for your generous and sincere compliment, I will pass it on to Ed!
@leonnygren9394
@leonnygren9394 6 ай бұрын
This guy illustrates how America is so special....we are tinkers!... remember....Henry was a tinker.😂
@kuyaearly143
@kuyaearly143 9 ай бұрын
Ed Tech 💪🏻😎👍🏻thanks
@BarryTsGarage
@BarryTsGarage 9 ай бұрын
You bet 👍
@robertchall8576
@robertchall8576 9 ай бұрын
I hope we get to hear it run. Thanks.
@ldnwholesale8552
@ldnwholesale8552 9 ай бұрын
So he 9" centre is going into the T to hold all that stroker power!! I would be making a pressurised oil system
@sideswiped6874
@sideswiped6874 2 күн бұрын
LOL "that's number 18" LOL love it. someone should give him a Willy's Jeep flathead to hop up. there is a lot of things to do to that engine to pump it up.
@BarryTsGarage
@BarryTsGarage Күн бұрын
Great idea!
@sideswiped6874
@sideswiped6874 Күн бұрын
@@BarryTsGarage . yeeha, it's Compression Ratio is like 7 to 1.
@Bobthebuilder.69
@Bobthebuilder.69 8 ай бұрын
I've built hundreds of circle track and racing engines and I've been very successful thankfully but I'll never be as good as Ed. These guys grew up in an era were they machined their own parts and tools. There wasn't near as many aftermarket parts back in the day. It's so cool to watch him work, He's as sharp as a tack.
@BarryTsGarage
@BarryTsGarage 8 ай бұрын
Thanks Brad yes, he is Sharp! Thank you. I will pass that on to Ed. Have a great day!
@user-cv7tr1bi5c
@user-cv7tr1bi5c 8 ай бұрын
Good that you canfindparts❤❤😂🎉🎉🎉🎉
@jimmccauley9099
@jimmccauley9099 9 ай бұрын
Cool old-school work. Would've used nylon buttons to locate piston pins though. Pin would be a true floater.
@BarryTsGarage
@BarryTsGarage 9 ай бұрын
Cool idea
@user-py5pk2eu2m
@user-py5pk2eu2m 8 күн бұрын
Pure genius!
@tonydowns9424
@tonydowns9424 9 ай бұрын
Wow... I could pick this gentleman's brain for days, You don't find people with his skill set anymore. He could make an elaphant fly with a roll of ducktape and some shrubbery !
@hippiemiller
@hippiemiller 8 ай бұрын
This man is a OG master record all you can because knowledge of this caliber dies with his generation. Respect on athe next level
@BarryTsGarage
@BarryTsGarage 8 ай бұрын
Thank you I will pass that on to Ed
@Wishfullilith
@Wishfullilith 9 ай бұрын
This man’s forgot more than I’ve learned
@benrossbach6501
@benrossbach6501 8 ай бұрын
Just stumbled across your channel, this being my 3rd video. All I can say is wow, and thanks.
@BarryTsGarage
@BarryTsGarage 8 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@mcbridecreek
@mcbridecreek 9 ай бұрын
Such a wealth of knowledge!
@kolejohnson73
@kolejohnson73 8 ай бұрын
Back in the early 90's i was lightly involved in a stroker 400 mopar. From memory , it used 440 crank, 428 ford pistons and bbc rods. There was alot of side clearance on the rids and that worried me a bit but it worked. Somewhere around 470ci. Back then we made power, now you buy it.
@therealbadbob2201
@therealbadbob2201 8 ай бұрын
I had a Chevy Vega with a pretty hot 327 from a corvette. Built myself a 12.5 second quarter mile car for 10,000 and all my labor. Like you said, now they just drop a wad of money. Where is the satisfaction in that?
@JeffKopis
@JeffKopis 7 ай бұрын
No way that would work. Ford 428 pistons are only 4.13 bore. Stock 400 Mopar is 4.34. However, a stock Ford 429 or 460 is 4.36. I'm sure that 429 pistons are what you're thinking of.
@Tshade67
@Tshade67 9 ай бұрын
3.810 bore x 4.250 stroke = 193.82 cubic inches.
@BobbyTucker
@BobbyTucker 3 ай бұрын
It would be nice if you could have used posi- locks and/or Teflon buttons on the wrist pins, I used them on my sbc builds when using floating rods.
@junkyardjimmyriversiderecy6722
@junkyardjimmyriversiderecy6722 9 ай бұрын
You can put a modern spark system on it useing crank position censor style ignition them turbo turner guys can get you going
@BarryTsGarage
@BarryTsGarage 9 ай бұрын
I think a consideration would be keeping the engine bay looking original, I wonder if there’s a way to do that covertly…?
@junkyardjimmyriversiderecy6722
@junkyardjimmyriversiderecy6722 9 ай бұрын
@@BarryTsGarage not sure about hiding though I would think possible some really brainy guys on u tube I look now before I start anything.
@eweunkettles8207
@eweunkettles8207 8 ай бұрын
put a good old bosch magneto on it that will fire better than any fangled new electronic bs and no battery reqd manual ad / ret ignition too
@Dymitr_Nawrocki
@Dymitr_Nawrocki 7 ай бұрын
​@@eweunkettles8207Cdi ignition will work better than old bosch magneto and will also work with no battery, cdi module will be easy to hide since it is about the size of cigarette pack. Using cdi ignition from a smaller cc motorcycle or scooter might be a good idea. Also i understand its easier for you to say old stuff is "better than any fangled new electronic bs" than admitting that you dont understand how work with modern stuff but it does not change the fact that modern ignition systems are at least as reliable as the old stuff not to mention they give much stronger spark.
@eweunkettles8207
@eweunkettles8207 7 ай бұрын
@@Dymitr_Nawrocki lots of historic racing cars still use magnetos the higher the rpm the better the spark unlike points whose primary gets less time to charge the faster it runs the only modern bit i use is wima o.22 uf capacitors i have no desire to use cdi yes i do know how it works with a high voltage primary and very small ht coil but have you studied magnetos in detail ? i know nothing as im a simple ameteur armature winder
@scrotiemcboogerballs1981
@scrotiemcboogerballs1981 7 ай бұрын
I thought he was going to jump through the camera when he was talking and jerking his head up lol jk great video these gentlemen are very skilled wish I had half the knowledge these guys have heck they probably forgotten more than I know now lol thanks for sharing
@tonyking9235
@tonyking9235 8 ай бұрын
LOOKING FORWARD TO SEE THST RUNNING ED YOUNG MAN
@BarryTsGarage
@BarryTsGarage 8 ай бұрын
I hope to be able to show it running, certainly will do that if I can! Thank you
@gordondowdy833
@gordondowdy833 8 ай бұрын
Awesome technique !!!
@mikerussell505
@mikerussell505 8 ай бұрын
The rods are going to hit the oil pan on the sides too. Heat the area with a torch and knock a lump outward to provide clearance. This is required for a stock Model A crank to T conversion.
@BarryTsGarage
@BarryTsGarage 8 ай бұрын
Thanks- I’ll try to check with Ed to suggest or learn his plan 👍
@junkyardjimmyriversiderecy6722
@junkyardjimmyriversiderecy6722 7 ай бұрын
Oid dudes rule young dudes drool❤
@allareasindex7984
@allareasindex7984 7 ай бұрын
I have a Model A which I put 1,500 miles a year on it. I try to keep it as stock as possible so when it breaks I can get repair parts without modifying them. “Hello NAPA? I need a connecting rod…”
@BarryTsGarage
@BarryTsGarage 7 ай бұрын
That is a really great way to go… Glad to hear you’re using it, best thing for it!
@paulwest4755
@paulwest4755 7 ай бұрын
Amazing
@BarryTsGarage
@BarryTsGarage 7 ай бұрын
Thank you! Cheers!
@davidcoudriet8439
@davidcoudriet8439 7 ай бұрын
I'd love to see it run!
@BarryTsGarage
@BarryTsGarage 7 ай бұрын
If there’s a way to capture that I will!
@K-Effect
@K-Effect 8 ай бұрын
0:32 Some people talk with their hands, this man talks with his chin and you better listen up because he’s talking fact’s
@anonone8954
@anonone8954 7 ай бұрын
That man was probably born with a can do attitude. First thing some people do is start thinking of the reasons that they can't do something, I've never understood that way of thinking. It's unproductive.
@Cougracer67
@Cougracer67 9 ай бұрын
Chevy had dipper rods through 1953, not'"48 or '49".
@BarryTsGarage
@BarryTsGarage 9 ай бұрын
Thanks
@Cougracer67
@Cougracer67 9 ай бұрын
Further detail: The first Chevy with pressurized oiling system was the 1953 235 with Powerglide. The 1953 Chevy with manual transmission was still splash oiling with dipper rods and Babbitt. @@BarryTsGarage
@patrickancona1193
@patrickancona1193 7 ай бұрын
@@Cougracer67well bless your little heart
@bobc8694
@bobc8694 8 ай бұрын
Love seeing different builds. But the wrist pen is supposed to rotate in the rod not the pistons with a floating rod and wrist pen set up and when you are letting it float on the rod and piston you should have a c- clip in the pistons so the wrist pen doesn't come out to far and make contact with the cylinder wall. I have seen similar setups with the wrist pins press fit into the piston or the rod but normally not both.. why does it matter well the aluminum pistons if you are spinning the wrist pen because you have it locked to the rod the aluminum piston is going to wear way more than if it is spinning in the rod end since it has a bearing or bushing of some sort of is hardened and is harder and will wear less over time compared to the aluminum pistons.. the best set up in my opinion is float the wrist pen in the rod and not the piston. I'm not saying that it should be a press fit into the piston..it should be able to be put in by hand and then cut a Grove for c-clips in the pistons... not saying what you have done won't work just a different way and like you said it's only turning 2000rpm 's
@BarryTsGarage
@BarryTsGarage 7 ай бұрын
Good discussion
@brentonk461ismylostaccount
@brentonk461ismylostaccount 8 ай бұрын
Use a Magneto
@charlesangell_bulmtl
@charlesangell_bulmtl 8 ай бұрын
GOOD GOD thats a lot of work .., I think an external oil pump would be better, even a simple plunger pump and external lines wouldn't be as much 'trouble' Pete Aardema and Kevin Braun ... THERE are out of the box thinkers
@BarryTsGarage
@BarryTsGarage 8 ай бұрын
I hear you, but the goal of the project was to keep everything looking original/stock looking… so had to think out of the box within the box 😀😮
@deantheboatguy1437
@deantheboatguy1437 9 ай бұрын
I respect my elders but i feel like im watching those guys from Pakistan I thought when you utilize parts from newer models one takes advantage of things learned over history not to mention when better is also easier its pretty foolish not to follow that path ignition gee lets complicate things by adding a distributor hmm maybe 60 year old outboard motor components or maybe some briggs and stratton pieces or keeping with the automotive theme 2 gm hei modules 2 double lead motorcycle coils and a couple of ford pickup coils file a few strategically located slots in whatever ya got thats round and spins with the crank and voila your own solid state ign
@BobbyTucker
@BobbyTucker 3 ай бұрын
Tell me please, do you or have you "Fly cut" the pistons for valve clearance and if so what were the circumstances?
@BarryTsGarage
@BarryTsGarage 3 ай бұрын
Bobby, great to have your comments, I will have to try to remember to ask Ed on my next visit. Thank you!
@jamielombardo5292
@jamielombardo5292 8 ай бұрын
I'm wondering if that crank would fit in my 2N.
@BarryTsGarage
@BarryTsGarage 8 ай бұрын
Hmmm it might!
@akfarmboy49
@akfarmboy49 8 ай бұрын
He was going to use a VW oil pump? Was it a crankshaft mounted oil pump on the front? Oh interesting idea. I have not seen that done before
@BarryTsGarage
@BarryTsGarage 8 ай бұрын
No he's talking about a VW Distributor for better spark control. Thanks!
@akfarmboy49
@akfarmboy49 8 ай бұрын
@@BarryTsGarage I heard say it in earlier video
@akfarmboy49
@akfarmboy49 8 ай бұрын
@@BarryTsGarage yes he did say using a VW distributor but he also said a VW oil pump earlier on
@jameslockard4827
@jameslockard4827 8 ай бұрын
There is a kit to mount a VW oil pump driven on the back end of the camshaft. You can't run it with the original Magneto though.
@akfarmboy49
@akfarmboy49 8 ай бұрын
@@jameslockard4827 oh interesting I had a model TT And 5 spare engines and I gave away But I’m always interested in modifications people do on multi engines case I get excited and decide to get another engine rebuild it
@rogerpatton-zr7qd
@rogerpatton-zr7qd 8 ай бұрын
Are the rods balanced or do they need be scents it’s not a high rev motor
@BarryTsGarage
@BarryTsGarage 8 ай бұрын
I’ll ask Ed but I have a feeling they’re close enough like they come for this application…
@JeffKopis
@JeffKopis 7 ай бұрын
"since", not scents. We're not SMELLING the engine! 😂
@fastst1
@fastst1 7 ай бұрын
Engineering mixed with farmacology
@BarryTsGarage
@BarryTsGarage 7 ай бұрын
😂
@skipper9400
@skipper9400 8 ай бұрын
LOL shoulda just dropped a 300 inch ford six in it....lot less trouble and a lot more power......
@BarryTsGarage
@BarryTsGarage 8 ай бұрын
That would not have fit back into the model T unless maybe you cut it in half?
@JeffKopis
@JeffKopis 7 ай бұрын
WELDED rods?? I wouldnt trust those in a lawnmower!
@BarryTsGarage
@BarryTsGarage 7 ай бұрын
They’ll be fine in this application… 😀
@eweunkettles8207
@eweunkettles8207 7 ай бұрын
depends who welds em i used welded rods in a very rare husqvarna v twin pmi checked to find composition and ndt tested them no probs
@JeffKopis
@JeffKopis 7 ай бұрын
Why go to all this trouble?? You cant just put a Model A engine into a T??
@BarryTsGarage
@BarryTsGarage 7 ай бұрын
Good question - the idea here is to keep everything looking original looking under the hood while improving power and reliability. Thanks!
@kingearl2596
@kingearl2596 8 ай бұрын
This makes almost no sense. The only way to get power from this engines is to install Frontenac heads or others like Rajo etc. Sidevalves are shitvalves!
@BarryTsGarage
@BarryTsGarage 8 ай бұрын
The goal here wasn’t ultimate power, but but to make as much power as possible while looking original
@eweunkettles8207
@eweunkettles8207 7 ай бұрын
some side valves are surprisingly quick i modified a 20s v twin enfield ricardo reshaped chambers big valves cam ect doubled power output
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