Raised by Wolves S2E05 discussion

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Alt Schwift X

Alt Schwift X

2 жыл бұрын

Raised by Wolves becomes a horror movie.
Discussing Raised by Wolves Season 2 Episode 5, "King"!
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@ruigerd
@ruigerd 2 жыл бұрын
Episode is not even an hour and you managed to talk about it for about 2.5 hours. That's why you are awesome schwift
@stevonico
@stevonico 2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@KabbalahSherry
@KabbalahSherry 2 жыл бұрын
For real, I could listen to him riff about this sh*t all day. 💁🏻‍♀️😆 lmao
@mnomadvfx
@mnomadvfx 2 жыл бұрын
You spell waffling very oddly 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣 Seriously though, there isn't enough happening in this episode to talk about it for an hour, let alone 2 and a half.
@damoncurrie7103
@damoncurrie7103 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I enjoyed every second of it.
@DiamondWoodStudios
@DiamondWoodStudios 2 жыл бұрын
@@mnomadvfx Broo honestly I could probably talk about this episode for 3 hours if it was needed, I think the beauty of this show is the layers that it is encased in
@b.rileyjowett6925
@b.rileyjowett6925 2 жыл бұрын
I think it’s interesting that mother’s dedication to her children (including #7) as opposed to humanity as a whole is starting to go in the direction that it is. Like it seems if things continue in this direction she’ll be happy to kill the rest of humanity and turn her children into snakes just to preserve them.
@BigMikeMcBastard
@BigMikeMcBastard 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, mother not valuing humanity and seemingly being almost impressed by Paul's nigh transformation into a snake gives me some vibes that Mother is ultimately going to decide humanity would be better off entirely snakeified and reduced to animal intelligence/obedient if not outright controlled by her.
@user-42o
@user-42o Жыл бұрын
@@BigMikeMcBastard thats wut grandma want 2 do, to devolve humanity.
@stevonico
@stevonico 2 жыл бұрын
Moral of the story: -Don’t trust god -Don’t birth serpents
@jconner78
@jconner78 2 жыл бұрын
- don’t build replicas of the psycho daughter you presumably had to put down - trust what comes out of acidic water for medicinal purposes - stick to low-carbo diet
@obi3kenobi
@obi3kenobi 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe don’t trust prophets neither
@jconner78
@jconner78 2 жыл бұрын
@@obi3kenobi Or at the VERY least, quiz your prophets to make sure they know basic fairy tale canon
@bernardvezina-gagnon24
@bernardvezina-gagnon24 2 жыл бұрын
Words to live by
@izzyxblades
@izzyxblades 2 жыл бұрын
in order to avoid birthing serpents, you first need to avoid having VR sex with your creator, and not get doused in milky sex fluids
@kman7680
@kman7680 2 жыл бұрын
The lowering of the pit is for human sacrifice to the snakes…that’s why there were all the skeletons
@fabolous514
@fabolous514 2 жыл бұрын
When I saw the skeletons i was like oh shit it’s not pumpkin only diet
@KabbalahSherry
@KabbalahSherry 2 жыл бұрын
@@fabolous514 - 😬🤣🎃🚫 lmao
@mnomadvfx
@mnomadvfx 2 жыл бұрын
It was for sacrifice IMHO, but not to a serpent, but rather the thing that was still alive in there.
@jasongaudreau2075
@jasongaudreau2075 2 жыл бұрын
@@mnomadvfx we all noticed how the snake skeleton in the pit was lodged. Figure that snake got stuck there waiting for the next sacrifice to be lowered, but the meal never came. I believe as you do that the contraption was made to lower the sacrificed to the core of the planet. The snakes that dwell in the “tubes” just got hip to the sacrifice idea and figured they could snatch a meal before it made it to the core. Whoever was sending down the sacrifice would have no clue whether they made it to the core or got snatched. Either way they were gone when the cage came back.
@Sopel429
@Sopel429 2 жыл бұрын
But how would the snake open the cage and get a meal?
@stephenmoney4722
@stephenmoney4722 2 жыл бұрын
Every quarrel between, Mother and Father is amazing.
@kaladin_
@kaladin_ 2 жыл бұрын
I think the joke father tells is irony. the milk is worried about the blackhole but it's with a cat that drinks milk. Maybe its foreshadowing.
@Gradysmokestoomuch
@Gradysmokestoomuch 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing. I don't think father understands that. But also if the writers wanted to make that connection they would say "a saucer of milk". I don't know maybe it's just to emphasize fathers still learning to tell jokes.
@o_o8203
@o_o8203 2 жыл бұрын
the storytelling felt a bit loose this episode, but the vrille scene was absolutely chilling. i wonder if shes going to meet campion again and have a "do you still think im pretty" moment and i wonder if campion will reject her after learning that she killed all the mithraic.
@Dom-bn1ru
@Dom-bn1ru 2 жыл бұрын
Pls no more vrille.... too scary xD 😆
@kman7680
@kman7680 2 жыл бұрын
This show is perfect for anyone who loves trying to theorize what’s happening behind the scenes, or with the knowledge given to the audience.
@bethshanks88
@bethshanks88 2 жыл бұрын
Lol I’ve been driving my boyfriend nuts trying to theorize so many details!!
@triciaelder0517
@triciaelder0517 2 жыл бұрын
I think sol have Sue the answers to cure Paul so that he could use her as a pawn to do his bidding when she prayed she said please and I'll do anything you want.. he was like "Ina take u up on that deal"
@AltSchwiftX
@AltSchwiftX 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah maybe the whole reason Sol put Paul into a cocoon was to offer Sue the cure just to convince her to follow his orders!
@damoncurrie7103
@damoncurrie7103 2 жыл бұрын
@@AltSchwiftX That millionaire old AI is playing 4d chest
@Sopel429
@Sopel429 2 жыл бұрын
​@@damoncurrie7103 trillionaAIre snakeset
@o_o8203
@o_o8203 2 жыл бұрын
theres a saying that sufficiently advanced technology can be indistinguishable from magic. i like that this show plays with that.
@TywinLannister666
@TywinLannister666 2 жыл бұрын
Well caught! Science fiction writer Arthur C. Clarke's quote, “Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic ” is usually used to point out the wonders, complexity and potential of technology. Its also maladapted due to well, a insufficient understanding of description/dileneation and the issue with everything being relative to each observer.
@JeremyIceAndFire33
@JeremyIceAndFire33 2 жыл бұрын
First thing I thought was, Alt Schwift was just saying last week how he'd love to see a Terminator version of Decima's daughter running around & boom, next episode there she is lol
@jonathansodacan5769
@jonathansodacan5769 2 жыл бұрын
The snake in S1 finale grew so large and so fast after it went through the core with mother and father. Maybe the cage was a way to lower a baby snake (after birthing it from an android) into the core and let it grow. Then it would crawl up the pit and burst out of the temple. That’s why the temple is broken 🤷🏻‍♂️
@scream8564
@scream8564 2 жыл бұрын
The horror in this episode is really good.
@sumtingwong8592
@sumtingwong8592 2 жыл бұрын
Vrill was the best part of this episode. Her part was definitely a mini horror movie
@damoncurrie7103
@damoncurrie7103 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah the body horror I couldn't even look at the screen
@wingedgeek2
@wingedgeek2 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t think mother’s power in the torture scene is a new one, I think this might be microwaves and is just another way she manipulates electromagnetic radiation. We have seen explodey screaming (radio waves); heat/freeze breath (infrared), visual manipulations (optical); ability to detect pregnancy (x-ray?); and skin-melting (gamma radiation). If this is microwaves, she has used basically the full EM spectrum except for UV (radio waves > microwaves > infrared > optical/ visible light > ultraviolet > X-rays, > gamma-rays).
@AltSchwiftX
@AltSchwiftX 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I guess that power she used on Cleaver looked like a less intense version of her scream
@stephenreid6686
@stephenreid6686 2 жыл бұрын
Keep in my mind she can do all this in addition to having a womb or some type of creation device in her stomach but couldnt scan the fruit the first 5 kids ate for more than a decade.
@spankyhi
@spankyhi 2 жыл бұрын
so what if they made the tooth from scriptures like the nercos?? and that's why the tooth gave life to the creature. i think that's possible
@cody5021
@cody5021 2 жыл бұрын
grandmother is 100% a version 1.0 necromancer right? ...she can fly, she has that vale over her face...guessing back in the day they couldn't "power down" and be normal like we see with mother so the vale is equivalent to taking out the eyes?
@skibobshipoddlypop
@skibobshipoddlypop 2 жыл бұрын
I see no reason to distrust her statement that she's a Shepherd, and they said she didn't have weapons
@sorry987654321
@sorry987654321 2 жыл бұрын
scriptures are definitely memes like in a richard dawkins memes sense. oh and I think you are totally right: for example ecstatic dance is something experienced in so many places: from ancient shamanistic rituals to modern dance clubs and the meaning always changes with the context. almost every religion uses these universal human experiences in some way and tries to claim ownership of them...
@MrSidney9
@MrSidney9 2 жыл бұрын
“ Almost every religion uses these universal experiences in some way and tries to claim ownership of them.” Very well said. Mystical/ spiritual experiences like the transe you might feel listening and dancing to some music or that sense of veneration you might feel when looking at a total solar eclipse or simply by standing at the base of a tall building and looking up… are all reflection of something deeper than any religion, because people from different religions and even atheists experience them. The problem is we lack a propped secular framework to explain them, so various religious use them as vindication of their particular tradition
@MrSidney9
@MrSidney9 2 жыл бұрын
Raised by wolves kinda went GOT with all these killing in this episode lol . I didn’t see this coming. They literally killed every Mythraic , including Décima whose character they have invested relatively a lot in developing. Edited for typos
@krzyszwojciech
@krzyszwojciech 2 жыл бұрын
"The Red Mass"
@Shadamachaeon
@Shadamachaeon 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder why Vrille spared Holly during the massacre - Holly helped the other Mythraic subdue Vrille while Decima defaced her.
@Blastanker
@Blastanker 2 жыл бұрын
I have a feeling that the “herbivore” Snake may attempt to eat the fruit from The Tree when it is grown and it’ll cause it to evolve into the monsters we see the remains of scattered across the planet.
@serarthurdayne1031
@serarthurdayne1031 2 жыл бұрын
Shit. Thats to on the nose.
@stevonico
@stevonico 2 жыл бұрын
Woah that sounds like what might happen
@mnomadvfx
@mnomadvfx 2 жыл бұрын
Lol, it's not Pokemon mate 😂😂😂 It's build is fundamentally different from those serpents - they have more dragon like jaws/teeth. Mother's child serpent is more like a lamprey - the whole point of Mother wanting to kill it was her fear that it is a killer, which would kinda become a pointless waste of time if it is actually carnivorous.
@Blastanker
@Blastanker 2 жыл бұрын
@@mnomadvfx they are biotech. Biotech can change. Don’t act like you’re a damm raised by wolves scientist. We don’t have any facts on this stuff. The show is insane. Literally anything can happen.
@pantherpopel551
@pantherpopel551 2 жыл бұрын
@@Blastanker I was about to say the same. The whole fkn planet core is likely a god computer and humans can be "de evolved" in seconds in RbW. But a snake cant change after eating some magic fruit? Naw, son. That snake is gonna devour aaaall the people with those jaws. 😄
@eliscore
@eliscore 2 жыл бұрын
I love how the show turned from a dystopian psycho mystery into pure horror lol
@LindsayCatherine
@LindsayCatherine 2 жыл бұрын
When Caleb found that dusty gentleman in the bottom of the pit my boyfriend exclaimed “Is that Sol?!” And it really tickled me 😂
@theonly764hero1
@theonly764hero1 2 жыл бұрын
The dynamic between mother and father now is as if they’ve divorced following their children leaving the nest and going off on their own journeys.
@celeritas2-810
@celeritas2-810 2 жыл бұрын
I love the Mother and Father arguments, honestly it's the most real and relatable part of the show for me. When Mother gets more power she doesn't need Father and they fight, it feels like the warning unbalances that can happen for two strong working professional het-parents and the arguments that occur.
@liul
@liul 2 жыл бұрын
Grandmother reminds me of Eve from Wall-E, the way she musically laughs
@Billy-eg5ln
@Billy-eg5ln 2 жыл бұрын
Very funny considering she's the Eve to Father's Adam and Mother's Lilith!
@stevenfrazier9676
@stevenfrazier9676 2 жыл бұрын
This show is awesome. Everyone I’ve recommended it to has loved it. Even people who don’t like Si-fi.
@AbyNeon
@AbyNeon 2 жыл бұрын
Sue learned from Jon Snow, how to fight dragons and legless crawling acid sea creatures.... screaming back always leads to victory!!........ where is Arya btw?!
@salvatoredg77
@salvatoredg77 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting that Sol was suddenly able to talk and give visions to Sue in the temperate zone … now that the Trust is dead? Wonder if there’s a connection
@derelict06
@derelict06 2 жыл бұрын
Is it cause the trust is dead or cause Grandmother is active, she could be his wi-fi extender. Or maybe both are just coincidental timing and it’s been working on a new way to communicate to that side of the planet, and that plan just happened to finish around the same time.
@vshazam
@vshazam 2 жыл бұрын
@@derelict06 not sure not the sequence of events line up, but could Marcus going down in that pit be a possible cause?
@derelict06
@derelict06 2 жыл бұрын
@@vshazam I *think* that happened after Sue got the leech vision, so I’m not sure it lines up. But there might be something about them getting close to that temple that activated Sol’s ability in the region, could be somethin to do with Marcus. I think my #1 culprit is still Grandmother but I think you’re got another possibility there
@saverna1
@saverna1 2 жыл бұрын
So I missed you live but I had this thought about the "tree of knowledge" card: what if the branches are the tunnels in the earth? The endpoints might be those hexagon churches
@jconner78
@jconner78 2 жыл бұрын
These streams are great! Been following you since you started your ASOIAF vids, and it’s been a trip watching you refine your skills. Happy to be a part of your rabble
@troublefollows9986
@troublefollows9986 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe they mean "grand mother" or greater mother ......a greater version of the standard necromancer model.
@AltSchwiftX
@AltSchwiftX 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah "Grand Mother" sounds like a badass title or necromancer model..
@karelknightmare6712
@karelknightmare6712 2 жыл бұрын
One inteteresting point of the episode, is the brain-washing factor explained by Mother to Cleaver. Human memories are therefore not reliable and may be the fruit of androids manipulations.
@ghostgate82
@ghostgate82 2 жыл бұрын
People don’t even know what “religious” means anymore, and this show is doing a great job at deconstructing that fact. “Religion,” science, history, and ideology ALL bleed together. Trying to separate them is a folly.
@KabbalahSherry
@KabbalahSherry 2 жыл бұрын
Facts 😏💯
@triciaelder0517
@triciaelder0517 2 жыл бұрын
I paused the screen during the preview for next week and there's an awesome image of mother and grandmother floating in front of each other. I can not wait to find out more about this ancient Android
@Taurickk
@Taurickk 2 жыл бұрын
The fire wasn't CGI, it's just because of the insane blue filter they use on the day for night shots. I actually kinda like it but it's such a stylistic shooting style it makes things with strong warm tones like fire look quite unnatural
@Unitos_
@Unitos_ 2 жыл бұрын
This episode was extremely Riddley
@theotakunate
@theotakunate 2 жыл бұрын
As soon as Sue got into her underwear, I was yep that's a Ridley scene.
@HavanaSyndrome69
@HavanaSyndrome69 2 жыл бұрын
The following scene is a very typical situation when it comes to me and this show. Hey Nico, what are you watching? Hey! I am so glad you asked! It's a show that takes place after the apocalypse which happened because, wait. I need to explain something first. So, it's kind of like an alternative timeline where mythrayism took over the world instead of Christianity and, wait. First I need to explain what mithrayism is. You know how in the Roman empire Christianity really took off in the third century and just about everybody was Christian by then but then hold on. Let's actually go back to the future because it's easier to explain that a artificial intelligence which is comprised of an entire planet that works as a supercomputer sent cryptic messages to the cult of Mithras here on Earth but in the future not in the past because remember Christianity died out and Mithraism to go over. So, the planet-wide supercomputer from the other civilization which died out and was comprised of Neanderthals I think but that was after the Homo sapiens were wiped out and sent kind of an atom and Eve to our Earth as we know it now and in order to plant the seeds of human life here. Well, I mean Mithraism came from here but apparently in this world it came from over there. Now is probably a good time to explain that the other planet is called Kepler 22b and apparently humanity started there or maybe here. But wait.... It's about this time that they're f****** gone
@hassanalkhalaf1115
@hassanalkhalaf1115 2 жыл бұрын
typical Nico
@BoyangSun
@BoyangSun 2 жыл бұрын
I am just bothered by how much unnecessary strength and agility is put into a service model android meant to be an emotional support object.
@babytoshiro7014
@babytoshiro7014 2 жыл бұрын
Well it's a machine with many moving parts so it kinda makes sense lol but I get it
@fabolous514
@fabolous514 2 жыл бұрын
Especially when she was limping from acid damage to her leg and two episodes before that she got shot in the leg and said “she won’t be faster than a human” But still worth the action and gore ...10/10
@DiamondWoodStudios
@DiamondWoodStudios 2 жыл бұрын
I love how everybody treats Vita likes she’s a little girl, even you Schwift 😂 GUYS she was in the pods with all the other children, mentally she is 13 years older but people seem to forget that I feel so bad for her LMAO
@Beatness121
@Beatness121 2 жыл бұрын
I mean I assume the brain doesn't continue its development in cryosleep, so all the children still have the child brains just with much more years of experience. So basically they just have an extended childhood instead of being actually 13 years older.
@DiamondWoodStudios
@DiamondWoodStudios 2 жыл бұрын
@@Beatness121 got it! I was thinking all the kids from season 1 were basically 22-25 year olds walking around in kids bodies 😂
@rbwtn
@rbwtn 2 жыл бұрын
33:07 “holly’s message comes through like palpatine in starwars”😹😹
@Swiergotka78
@Swiergotka78 2 жыл бұрын
The only innocent and morally not ambiguous creature so far is #7. Even Father did not object to using the Mithraic as a bait and a bomb and doesn't really seem to be moved much by Paul turning into a snake. Even the kids each has done something morally ambiguous or at least ate what we know now were devolved humans. Well ok, perhaps Campion hasn't done anything bad yet too. No wonder he and #7 have a good connection.
@o_o8203
@o_o8203 2 жыл бұрын
the lighting for the night scenes (esp the fire) is a little whacky because it seems to be shot "day for night"; so its filmed during the day and CGI-ed to look like nighttime.
@ChrisGlenski
@ChrisGlenski 2 жыл бұрын
It’s terrible- everyone is alien blue and the fires don’t cast shadows
@HavanaSyndrome69
@HavanaSyndrome69 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Alt! Do you think it's possible the glasses were an interface for the trust so that the trust could see through Cleaver's eyes? So, the reason mother says they're your eyes cleaver at the end is because now that the trust is dead his eyes belong to him alone now. He's no longer the walking avatar of the trust carrying out his orders in the physical world and providing the trust with eyes! F****** hell sometimes the epiphanies better catalyzed by the show give me an intellectual stiffy!
@zacharythomas5470
@zacharythomas5470 2 жыл бұрын
You think dislodging the snake skeleton in the hole allowed Sol's signal to reconnect with the Tropical Zone?
@kittenclysm_5125
@kittenclysm_5125 2 жыл бұрын
:o oh no!
@fabolous514
@fabolous514 2 жыл бұрын
Can’t wait for the necromancer fight! It will probably just be a tiny power showdown but still pumped to see how mother is going to react when she is no longer Alfa
@kw9849
@kw9849 2 жыл бұрын
19:02 My assumption was that The Trust was manipulated by Sol when it created the bioweapon. The Trust even states that there is "no antidote" in such a manner that you get the impression it doesn't completely understand the weapon it sent over in the mouse.
@mnomadvfx
@mnomadvfx 2 жыл бұрын
No antidote simply means it did not think through the possible consequences of using it - the exact thing that led to Mother deactivating it.
@erichughes5493
@erichughes5493 2 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty late to this so doubtful you'll see it but two things I'm thinking and I'd like to know what others think: 1.) Grandmother sent the vision to Mary/Sue about the leeches. Perhaps Sol actually does want Paul to become a serpant and grandmother sent the visions to sue, since Sol can't breach the tropical zone, but grandmother is in it. 2.) What do yall think about the Mithraics who fell into the pit? Things that fall down there don't stay dead for very long, as Schwift has said before. Perhaps Sol could find a use for them like he did with Tally and Mouse? Great work Schwift. Also, not acid ocean serpant, but acid ocean Kraken?? Wishful thinking but GOT has be blue balled for Krakens.
@net28573
@net28573 2 жыл бұрын
1:27:49 No, Sue/Mary did not go religious, she specifically reaffirms multiple times this season that she understands that it's not a god and likely technology. Even when Paul asks her about where the idea came from and she talks about the voice, she tells Paul that she doesn't know what it is. If she truly developed religious faith she wouldnt hesitate to tell Paul all about it because she knows it's her lack of faith that prevents Paul from accepting her as his mother figure. I love that she's held firm to her morals while seeking out help to help those around her she cares about. Normally pride and fear of being judged for possibly showing inadequacy hold many people back from displaying this type of genuine love. It's such a genuinely motherly thing and the actor is really bringing out the best of this character. She's outmothering mother which is pretty funny. Meanwhile Mother and Father are showing signs of pride, jealousy, greed etc. I think the EM field is starting to get to them /s. Edit: Damn it, I don't usually post before watching the video but it was so long... Ignore what I said. At 1:29:46 he backtracks.
@MolemanSA
@MolemanSA 2 жыл бұрын
Sue/Mary... Mary Sue. Those mad lads.
@falwk
@falwk 2 жыл бұрын
humanity just ping-ponging between kepler 22b and earth for millenia
@jonathana6298
@jonathana6298 2 жыл бұрын
49:00 Maybe the fire had to be CGI because they’re using day-for-night shots. And the filter would make real fire look terrible.
@krzyszwojciech
@krzyszwojciech 2 жыл бұрын
4:12 -- *What does any of it have to do with wolves* -- on the thematic level, we have Roman myths and the metaphor of a fierce protector that a mother wolf can be as well as a more creepy aspect of humanity being groomed by bloodthirsty entities that pit us against each other. But there seems to be also a literal aspect to it in case of Mother. When Mother and Father lost the kid in the first generation, the one who fell into the pit, Mother howled like a wolf. We've later learned that OG Campion reprogrammed the Necromncer into a care giving android (rushed that it all was, including snapping "baby atheist's" neck situation). So what I imagine happened was that Campion needed a stronger motherly instinct to be implanted into Mother. Presumably it might have been done by scanning such brains: a human mother, but also a wolf female, to make her fiercely protect the last hope of humanity. It makes sense that there would be side effects from copying neural structures of a wolf, since the information in neurons seems to be distributed through the structure, not written down like in code, line by line. Most of this wolfish behavior we've seen in the first season. Mother didn't only howl. When Spiria died (last Gen-1 child except for Campion), she was looking at her intensely and moving around her animalistically, as if trying to sniff whether there's still life in her. 24:42 -- *more fallout after Mother's take over* -- I believe they've mentioned many atheists left their camps (including those that were supposed to take care of Tempest's baby). It's not like fighting Mother was an option, so leaving seems like the next best thing, given the trauma they've probably experienced from the Necromancers on Earth. This also explains why Sue is all alone there with Paul. 37:40 -- Father is more like a literal necromancer to Grandmother, than a parent. But sure, she's his emotional interest. For all his goodness, Father is probably too naive. On the other hand, maybe that goodness will help him to plead with Grandmother, if she goes berserk and maybe tries to kill Mother or something. 1:02:11 -- *I hate that the Mithraic had to go* -- Ditto. But things that fall into the pits sometimes return. So maybe they're not completely gone? Even if just as apparitions. You later mentioned that we didn't know them well enough for them to return. But I think that the creator of the show promised to show more of what was happening on Earth in season 3, so it could be a perfect time to get to know their stories through flashbacks. 1:29:12 -- *Apostole Paul* initially persecuted Christians, then had a religious experience. So maybe Paul kills Campion or leads to his death, feeds him to monsters or throws him down the well, but then repents and gets converted into Campionism? Or it could be the other way around. Paul is the Jesus of the story (though representing an evil God), gets killed by Campion who throws him into the well [presumably for good reasons]. But things that fall down there tend to return to the surface as apparitions. It could be like Jesus's post-mortem appearances. That could start a new religion, or a reformed religion. Not sure if the writers would want to go with the parallel to that degree, but if so, then maybe there are two AIs after all. A Good one and a Bad one? Or Sol represents the God of the Old Testament, very harsh in his judgments, but then will be somehow transformed by Paul merging with it into more loving Jesus-like figure? A techno-theological hack? [To fill the slot of Trinity, Holy Spirit could be another AI, or its aspect - maybe the nano-tech present in the environment. "God sent his Spirit".] 1:31:40 -- not sure if the chain is long enough or strong enough to manage reaching all the way to the core. 1:36:16 -- maybe the pentagonal temples are snake eggs? Maybe the sacrificial cage was attached there later, as a way to feed them. 1:41:54 -- *what is Sol's reasoning with turning Paul into a snake, then healing him* -- could be purely manipulative, to find someone emotionally vulnerable and exploit their feelings to do Sol's bidding - in this case, planting the seeds of the tree of knowledge. 2:02:58 - it's also a necromancing power apparently (or did the creature sleep/hibernate there?). It fits as an indirect origin of Mother's power. 2:19:18 -- Sue is of the philosophical position that any natural explanation is better than any supernatural explanation. Also, assuming that the scriptures are right at all about this and in some ancient past Sol stuck to the rules in his interactions with humans, maybe he is more desperate now. He helped Sue, before she would prove herself by planting the seeds. An investment for once. Though we could also look at this as an analogy of Mary in Christianity - she was special, a mother of God incarnate, venerated as pure and of highest virtues. Usual rules may not apply to her. On a side note, it's weird that Sol managed to contact Sue through that magnetic force of the tropical zone. Maybe it's not a problem for it after all. Or maybe there's an evaluation of investment vs return going on there and he's willing to use up energy to get through to her, if he has high confidence she'll do what she's told. Or maybe there are two AIs... Alternatively, snake in the cage could work as a sort of antennae, relaying communication from Sol. It's the snake in the Garden, coercing Sue to plant the tree of knowledge (and analogizing from the Bible, tree of knowledge is what leads to humanity's fall into sin). Oh, lastly, yeah, the acid ocean makes no sense at all to me either. Just think of the acid breeze coming regularly from the ocean burning all of their lungs, corroding equipment. Kinda hard to suspend the disbelief here.
@adidaskorn12345
@adidaskorn12345 2 жыл бұрын
Great points!
@krzyszwojciech
@krzyszwojciech 2 жыл бұрын
I'm now thinking, maybe the 'Jesus' of the story was not born just yet. Maybe Mary/Sue will bear the child. While we're told she can't have children, we've seen the transformative power of the nanotech on this planet. It could heal her. And maybe the fruits on the tree of knowledge will produce that nanotech (maybe that's why that gold swarm was located within the tooth - people were eating the fruits in the past and it infused their bodies with nanobots to the bone, which could be quite a powerful form of control - of curse and of blessing - whatever God's judgment may be). Sue could be like Eve and take the fruit, influenced by the whispers with a promise of being able to conceive. But then maybe she'll get pregnant with something without even having sex. coughVirgincough birth. This may just be too close for a biblical inspiration though.
@cisalzlman
@cisalzlman 2 жыл бұрын
I think Sol is using Grandmother to get its signal into the tropical zone
@jasongaudreau2075
@jasongaudreau2075 2 жыл бұрын
Grandmother smashed out of the shack and then saved Campion. She then returns to the shack…in both instances glowing (my theory is she was still incomplete) she put Father unconscious with this light and proceeds to use fathers tools and dug through his unconscious mind to complete herself and woke him upon completion.
@TymeTraveling777
@TymeTraveling777 2 жыл бұрын
why did that humanoid devolve??? ... i want to kno!! so many questions
@fabolous514
@fabolous514 2 жыл бұрын
😭😭😭I thought he was going to give us clues too
@TymeTraveling777
@TymeTraveling777 2 жыл бұрын
@@fabolous514 damn right... i was like nooooo lol
@sumtingwong8592
@sumtingwong8592 2 жыл бұрын
Speaking of pokemon, accidentally evolving your Eevee with a water stone be like 1:49:00
@AlexA-ko8lu
@AlexA-ko8lu 2 жыл бұрын
I also thought Father and Campion were the only obviously "good" ones (maybe other kids as well) but then Father casually forced a bunch of humans to be suicide bombers this season. ... this is not the same Father as in season 1. Maybe he did get killed one too many times.
@hassanalkhalaf1115
@hassanalkhalaf1115 2 жыл бұрын
It seemed logical for him. Those believers were dangerous since they already invaded his home, trapped his son and manipulated fathers memory. They have no worth for him. Father isn't a saint. He's a simple logical android who judges the given situation and acts on his judgement
@AlexA-ko8lu
@AlexA-ko8lu 2 жыл бұрын
@@hassanalkhalaf1115 it is funny how mother and father often depute what is "logical" in fulfilling their programming. I guess on the "killing innocent Mithraians" they are on the same page
@Dom-bn1ru
@Dom-bn1ru 2 жыл бұрын
This episode is like a horror movie
@jasongaudreau2075
@jasongaudreau2075 2 жыл бұрын
The story about Cleaver’s glasses being his eyes removable as comparison to Mother who actually stores her eyeballs in her “tummy”. Her regular eyes while she runs the necro set and vice versa, which also brings to question the fact that her necro eyeballs were in Marcus’ own stomach. He had powers even with them in him, much like how mother still has several super powers as a “normal” android while just having the necro eyes “stored”. And who else could “hijack” the eyes? And whatsup with necro grandma…is her necro power remkvable?
@mnomadvfx
@mnomadvfx 2 жыл бұрын
The necro powers are just necro powers - it's her build. The eyes are like a dark photon equivalent to solar cells - they charge up and amplify all her physical functions. I think the eyes also act to focus her 'scream' too - allowing it a far greater range.
@avidplanes
@avidplanes 2 жыл бұрын
Remember ai campion in the sim told mother that he is human and many things so sol is a human that turned into an android that turned into a snake that turned into super ai
@Dom-bn1ru
@Dom-bn1ru 2 жыл бұрын
Wild
@themiddleman781
@themiddleman781 2 жыл бұрын
Love this. Excited to add to my theory videos. Some nice twists in this episode. And see what's in the pentagonal temples..very Temple of Doom. And confirms that something is going in the core...dark photons/nanobots
@SymSne
@SymSne 2 жыл бұрын
Quack Quack
@SymSne
@SymSne 2 жыл бұрын
I think the shot near the end with 3 of the other planets in Kepler system reflecting light while Paul and Sue are talking about Sol and "what the difference between a god and alien is?" is very important but I'm not sure how just yet. Each planet may have a consciousness and we are seeing the 4th 'Gods' formation or we are seeing Sol's goal of expansion to other planets. Infesting each core and slowly becoming some kind multiplanetary Dark Photon Matrioshka brain / Roko's Basilisk hybrid ...
@SymSne
@SymSne 2 жыл бұрын
The Voice of Sol was blocked in the Tropical zone because the temple was destroyed. Now that Grandmother, an ancient angel, is back.. God can speak directly to his flock again.. These temples serve a dual purpose, as Schwift mentions, for human sacrifices. Humans are lowered as bait to tempt the baby snakes to go near the core of the planet. This allows Sol to 'reprogram' or gain control over the snake. In addition since the snakes grow very quickly after birth/hatching/whatever, they would not be able to exit the temple without going towards Sol's heart, the Dark Photon core.
@wingedgeek2
@wingedgeek2 2 жыл бұрын
’ve been enjoying your videos and ideas on this show too @themiddleman!
@sumtingwong8592
@sumtingwong8592 2 жыл бұрын
Also agree about the visuals of fire in this episode. Looked like whatever filter they use to make it night time also messes with the color and vibrancy of fire, idk but it looked terrible.
@popeyethe29th
@popeyethe29th 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah its clearly filmed in the day and put in a night filter. Kinda insane nobody realised the fire was off during the production
@JefffRushton
@JefffRushton 2 жыл бұрын
I kinda enjoyed the fire
@nataliedahling
@nataliedahling 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! We try to Theorize (1x) and Theorize (2x and 3x with cleverness) about what's going on in this episode, on this SHOW, on this planet, where this will end up. And yes, we still have no answers... regarding Life, Faith, Sol, the Planet, OR the ancient past. BUT LET ME TELL YOU!...I will continue to theorize with no ending in sight and continue to love this show even still...with no end and no answers... in sight.
@djash7161
@djash7161 2 жыл бұрын
Grandmother is learning human language Slowly as humans speak
@OmarDimelo
@OmarDimelo 2 жыл бұрын
I always appreciate Your videos , insightful and a lot of good jokes mixed in
@oatlord
@oatlord 2 жыл бұрын
Seems like whoever was talking to Sue is the different "god" that started driving actions last season as well. Seems like there are two entities playing God.
@ChrisGlenski
@ChrisGlenski 2 жыл бұрын
I definitely got that vibe. I think the voice sue hears is either the Trust “hiding in the network” or the grandmother android.
@michaelknoth2352
@michaelknoth2352 2 жыл бұрын
Watching the show < having this bloke explain what I watched
@SilverScale.
@SilverScale. 2 жыл бұрын
I think it's gonna be Mother AND Mary. Campion AND Paul. Romulus AND Remus. :)
@mark_c_1874
@mark_c_1874 2 жыл бұрын
I'm really enjoying the discussion about RBW generated with these posts. On a number of occasions there have been points made in comments by other viewers and RBW fans that I have found thought provoking and enlightening, even if they differ from my own speculations about where the show is going. Just putting it out there but what if it is in this story that who it is that raises the orphan is very important to whoever or whatever The Light is? More specifically, what if The Light wants its Chosen One to be someone that is sympathetic and caring towards the devolved humans? Now that the sea creature has taken Tempests' baby, we essentially have 3 orphans being raised by different parents (wolves??). All 3 orphans fit the description of the prophesied one but due to their different upbringings and influences upon them, it appears that not all 3 will be intrinsically able to fulfill the prophecy. Paul is an orphan raised by Marcus and Sue / Mary (both atheists posing as Mithraic) for many years while they were all in hypersleep. And now, Paul is sympathetic only towards those of the Mithraic faith as shown by his change in attitude towards Sue after she became a 'believer' in SOL. Campion is an orphan raised by Mother and Father who are both androids programmed to be antagonistic towards the Mithraic faith. Campion is sympathetic towards androids (esp. Virell), atheists, Mithraic believers and serpents. I'm not certain but to date, I have not seen how sympathetic and caring Campion is towards the devolved humans; other than the fact that he doesn't want to eat them. Yes, Campion says that 'everything has a soul' but does he view the devolved humans as anything more than animal-like creatures? Though Tempest and Othos' baby is also fatherless, at this time it is different to Paul and Campion in one key area. Paul has a father figure in Marcus. Campion has a father figure in Father. The baby was taken by a sea creature that appears to be female. Though its growth will be accelerated due to some of Grandmother's power, we have yet to see what kind of father figure it will have to influence it. Hunter came close to becoming a father figure for the baby but was too late. If some of the other comments hold true and the devolved humans are closer to being 'pure' than humans are, then they will still hold value to SOL / The Light. Although the creatures seem now closer to being animals than human, they are still a creature that has been created - especially given that they were formerly humans. If their welfare and existence is still cared about and of value to SOL / The Light, then the One chosen by It must be a person that cares about the devolved creatures also. I think that because Tempest and Otho's baby was taken by devolved humans it may be raised by them also. As a result. the baby will be sympathetic and caring towards them also. That is something that neither Paul nor Campion have been so far. Perhaps SOL / The Light desires a deliverer that will deliver all classes of creation to the Tree and thus to fellowship and communion with It so that SOL can communicate directly and personally with each of them. It's only a technical point and I'm not sure whether it's valuable information but although both Paul and Campion are both orphans, they are not without 'fathers' or father figures. Paul has Marcus and Campion has Father. We haven't yet seen if Tempest and Othos' baby - which is also an orphan - will have a father figure to guide it. The baby may be raised by the female creature that took it from Tempest. My point is that because of the points listed above, the baby may fit the description in the prophecy more so than either Paul or Campion. As stated earlier, given how the baby will be raised and who it will be raised by, it will most likely not be discriminatory against devolved humans nor will it view them as a lesser class of creation like how Paul and Campion might view them
@ArvelleWhitaker
@ArvelleWhitaker 2 жыл бұрын
Grandmother: beep beep boop.
@totorod
@totorod 2 жыл бұрын
Holy moly we are 1/2 way through season 2 already
@troyeskilson6338
@troyeskilson6338 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Alt, I am a big fan of your videos, and started watching Raised by Wolves after your videos on it. Is there any chance you could make your thumbnails for these livestreams less spoilery? I usually don't get a chance to watch the episode for a couple days, and I've found minor spoilers from these videos coming up in my recommendations.
@davidsmith4010
@davidsmith4010 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe the Mithraic sent a bio weapon to Keppler 22 B ahead of the colony ships to kill off the indigenous population. Perhaps the bio weapon used against Paul affected him the way it did because he ate the creatures in season 1.
@Sattva468
@Sattva468 2 жыл бұрын
Raised by Wolves S1 and S2 TLDR - "Marcus likes to insert his appendages into temple orifices"
@universebliss5209
@universebliss5209 2 жыл бұрын
I’m dying of curiosity…. What is this new set up that allows you to find the images so fast?!
@chuckdavidson5483
@chuckdavidson5483 2 жыл бұрын
The human in the pit, as he gets up, his clothing looks like an early aerospace pressure suit.
@jasongaudreau2075
@jasongaudreau2075 2 жыл бұрын
Dammit man!, now I’m staring at my chunk of the Berlin Wall and thinking it fits the broken sidewalk out front lol!!!!
@jasongaudreau2075
@jasongaudreau2075 2 жыл бұрын
Grandma speaks Groot!!!
@CrazyCarnieCory
@CrazyCarnieCory 2 жыл бұрын
The way I understood it was that the Mithraic Scriptures contained the information on how to make all the advanced technology like Necromancers the same way the Metal Tarot Cards also contain information/data, and it just took until the Mithraic reached the point of technology themselves before they could read/access the information that was stored in the scriptures
@pillowprincess3673
@pillowprincess3673 2 жыл бұрын
I'm Soo glad this exists! I love the show, but I have the a horrible snake phobia so the season 1 finale made me nope out. I'm still super curious about the story tough and listening to Schwifty is always a pleasure!
@PublicRecordsGeek
@PublicRecordsGeek 2 жыл бұрын
In terms of meals eaten, the butterfly is just clothes the caterpillar puts on for sexy party times before it dies.
@RiggidyNick
@RiggidyNick 2 жыл бұрын
Father going unconscious was like when old Gregg showed Howard Moon what he got. You don’t know what grandma’s got down there. Grandmas got downstairs mix up. She’s got a mangina. She’s grandmaaaaa
@girthymcfatkid3870
@girthymcfatkid3870 2 жыл бұрын
The planet is a super advanced/ancient AI. That's the penultimate reveal.
@SS-hz4jo
@SS-hz4jo 2 жыл бұрын
The Trust altered Paul genetically with the knowledge that the leeches would remove Paul’s vulnerability to the mutations caused by the kelp.
@ragnarcroughs2784
@ragnarcroughs2784 2 жыл бұрын
Grandma do be looking thicc tho
@MrRed-cf6gk
@MrRed-cf6gk 2 жыл бұрын
Vrille is the prophet
@charleswaldon8362
@charleswaldon8362 2 жыл бұрын
Stunning, always thought that this was a rip off channel, regurgitating the shift videos. I knew that you had off handedly mentioned this channel, but I never drew the lines together until I randomly opened up this..
@themiddleman781
@themiddleman781 2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree on the core. I theorized that it evolved but maybe the whole planet was manufactured...
@mnomadvfx
@mnomadvfx 2 жыл бұрын
My theory is that the 'core' is a ship with some field/hologram surrounding it, and the 'crust' of earth is sort of like a dyson sphere but made to grow vegetation on. It's an interesting concept that an advanced civilisation might construct an artificial planet to grow food on. That might explain why the tropical regions is so insanely verdant while others are barren and a sea of acid. ie the rest of the surface is just there to filter out the bad stuff for the tropical zone.
@eliscore
@eliscore 2 жыл бұрын
My niece walked into the living room to go to the kitchen for a snack and she nope'd the eff out of the room. I laughed so hard
@waybehind7353
@waybehind7353 2 жыл бұрын
00:48:45 I think the fire looks bad because they are doing day for night. Seems like they are applying blue filter on desaturated footage.
@treshaunaclarke8441
@treshaunaclarke8441 2 жыл бұрын
What if Sol left kepler 22b with the 'first humans' (based on the cave painting in season 1) and came back on both of the arks? This is based on the fact that mother, father and Campion was on kepler 22b for years with no interaction with Sol until the first ark crash landed. Then Sol impregnated mother in a pod from the ark. This not only suggests that the information to create snakes was always on the ark and within Mithraic scriptures but that the snakes are the ultimate beings Sol wants to create. As well as snakes can, maybe, only be made on kepler 22b as it needs to pass through the "planet's core" (based on the silver disc that Sol wanted Paul to destroy). Also, if the rapist is to be believed then Sol was definitely on the ark. (Maybe wanting to create the orphan boy in an empty land as it knew the rapist would die for his crimes and the mother would abundant the child). Sue hears the voice of Sol within the protected tropical zone only after The Trust was shutdown. This implies that maybe the Trust really wants to help humanity as it was programmed by the original Campion and once it was shutdown the ark was reset to its original programming. Explaining why Sol was not speaking to Paul after he entered the tropical zone which Sol would once Paul found the seeds. Additionally this would explain why Sol knows the Sue and Marcus are not Paul's parents and would know their true identities.
@syntaxed2
@syntaxed2 2 жыл бұрын
Good theories - But in the end it just illuminates the lack of answers the official story is providing. With only 2 eps left... they have to deliver satisfying answers or I fear much of the general audience will be turned off.
@meowbacca5624
@meowbacca5624 2 жыл бұрын
Is this available as a podcast? Something I can listen to without having the KZfaq app open?
@kansasXcityXstealth
@kansasXcityXstealth 2 жыл бұрын
KZfaq premium baby
@elwendigo2
@elwendigo2 2 жыл бұрын
KZfaq Vanced babies
@Blastanker
@Blastanker 2 жыл бұрын
Listen to this stream and he explains that it’ll not be turned into audio.
@PineappleOfDeath
@PineappleOfDeath 2 жыл бұрын
Was the cocoon in place to protect Paul from the bioweapon?
@mzmendy
@mzmendy 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe Paul was changed on some level when he crawled down into one of those pits tryna get mouse. If the seas are acidic because they flow through those pits, there must be some kind of nuclear/ chemical reaction from being down there.
@germanmart788
@germanmart788 2 жыл бұрын
chapter 5 had that horror movie mash up vibe i enjoyed it so much, season 2 so far is giving good surprises
@samlevesque8769
@samlevesque8769 2 жыл бұрын
on the thing about the lack of water resources, if there were any containers that wouldnt be dissolved by the acid they could maybe use a chemical reaction to neutralize it and turn it into water?
@purpleblah2
@purpleblah2 2 жыл бұрын
There are veins on Cleaver's head because he's been spinning around on the torture rack and all the blood is pooling in his head and causing the veins to pop out.
@nemomarc7841
@nemomarc7841 2 жыл бұрын
Terminator is back. ;)
@stephenreid6686
@stephenreid6686 2 жыл бұрын
20:40 THE SHEER FUCKING HUBRIS
@jasongaudreau2075
@jasongaudreau2075 2 жыл бұрын
Grandmother used father for some reason while he was unconscious
@PrincessLioness
@PrincessLioness 2 жыл бұрын
I always miss your livestreams for this. 😩
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