Rare Kienzle clock with Potsdamer Gong

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13 жыл бұрын

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This clock arrived this morning. Apart from a broken glass and the chime rods being slightly out of tune, it was luckily found to be in perfect working order. The Potsdamer Gong movement is unusual in being a two train striking movement adapted to operate a chime barrel, but only at half past. At the hour it just strikes the hour on three notes. The gong block is a typical Westminster block, which luckily has the exact same notes as those of the Garisonskirche in Potsdam where the chime originated. The melody comes from a patriotic German song "Üb Immer Treu Und Redlichkeit". These clocks were made in the 1930s and would never have been sold outside Germany. Hitker was inaugurated in Potsdam and this clock was sold as a commemoration of that event.
Kienzle also built these clocks with excerpts from two other German patriotic songs of the time, "Volk Ans Gewehr" and the "Horst Wessel Song".
Also please note how the chapter ring has been printed with a woodgrain image so it looks skeletonised. I've never seen this done before.
Sorry about the blurred bit when I'm showing the movement.

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@kaivonnortheim800 3 жыл бұрын

My greatgrandmother was born in 1902, her old clock in the kitchen had this very rare chime.....she sangs every hour to the chime in her bright old voice.....always exercise faithfulness and honesty ...( üb immer treu und redlichkeit ) after WW2 this chimes were unusual, they were too reminiscent of the prussian military, the potsdammer gong was an invention of kaiser willhlem

@ahmedchauhan7269 Ай бұрын

Very beautiful sound very nice collection sir

@DannysClocks Жыл бұрын

I recently purchased a wall clock with this exact chime sequence from the Netherlands. It cost a bit, but given the rarity especially in the United States, I just had to go for it. I especially love clocks with significant historical value, and these undeniably tell a story about a once decadent Germany.

@TommyWylie Жыл бұрын

That's great Danny! I look forward to seeing it on your channel.

@TommyWylie 12 жыл бұрын

I've finally fitted a new glass (£30 incl. P&P from Meadows & Passmore), and tuned the gong to perfection. I have set the clock up going and I am delighted with it now. Another success story. Right, that's 1 down, 40 plus to go...

@sooth15 13 жыл бұрын

Wow Cool!

@TommyWylie 11 жыл бұрын

You have to trawl ebay.de. This one was sold simply as "Kaminuhr mit Schlagwerk". It was obvious the seller didn't know what he was selling. You have to look at the picture of the movement, if one is included. If it has the extra wheelwork at the extreme right, with the diagonal blade spring, then it is most likely a Potsdamer clock.

@Monster404ftp 5 жыл бұрын

Interesting selective strike trains. It reminds me of the HAC 3/4 Westminster chime movements.

@OohGoshYoureRight 10 жыл бұрын

All those nice clocks ticking at once make quite a racket ! Have you been to The Wallace Collection museum near Oxford Circus, every hour on the hour all the ancient French clocks start-a-chiming at the same time; very pretty.

@rachanaplong3464 8 жыл бұрын

@HannYang_Corporation 3 жыл бұрын

1:58 Your Voice "Oops!"

@TommyWylie 13 жыл бұрын

@glisses7 I've found a suitable glass on Meadows & Passmore's, but it will cost me £30+, so maybe next year!

@noelaruldas1152 2 жыл бұрын

This clock is quite different. At half past hour it plays a melody and at the top of the hour it strikes the number of hours. I have never seen this type of clock.

@TommyWylie 11 жыл бұрын

They are quite rare. This one was only 28 Euros as a Buy It Now (Sofort Kaufen) because the seller didn't know what it was!

@TommyWylie 13 жыл бұрын

@RTreasures4U Thanks! I don't know why it struck 8 at 10 o'clock, it has struck every other hour perfectly! The only problem is that the cracked glass makes the chime buzzy and distorted. I must also tune that gong...

@connorbliss8669 4 жыл бұрын

Hopefully that problem will be solved soon, and when the gong does get tuned it will sound a whole lot better.

@Clockmaniac5445 12 жыл бұрын

This clock is the neatest clock ever! So let me get this straight. It chimes on the half hour and strikes on the hour?

@1sochronism 7 жыл бұрын

I've come across several variations of this clock, where two barrels operate the chimes as well as time and strike. Some are more elaborate than others and were produced by HamburgAmerican/Junghans/Becker. What I've been told is that these companies started out as competitors and merged in the early 20th century. Canada was flooded with clocks from these makers until the buildup for war made brass and steel hard to obtain. The theory was that the clockmakers came up with the two barrel idea to save metal, but there is no hard evidence of this, just what I was told when I was apprenticing.

@TommyWylie 7 жыл бұрын

OK but as far as I'm aware the Kienzle Potsdamer was introduced as a patrotic breakaway from the "foreign" traditions of Westminster chimes and bim bam striking. In the 1930s Germany was recreating it's own identity, but as we know, it didn't last long. Another version of this particular clock played the first four notes of the Horst Wessel Song.

@1sochronism 7 жыл бұрын

Potsdamer clocks I've never seen in person, I meant I've seen the two barrels with three trains configuration. However, thanks to your vid, I will definitely keep an eye out for one!

@TommyWylie 13 жыл бұрын

@JustInn014 One thing that would ruin the image of a macho Third Reich clock is plinky chime rods! If any tuning is to be done, it will be done with careful filing of the existing rods.

@BellsAndWhistles93 13 жыл бұрын

It doesn't sound bad at all. If you do re tune it, don't put in little plinky rods!

@TommyWylie 12 жыл бұрын

@Clockmaniac5445 Yes that's right. See the movement demonstration video, also on my channel. It's presently waiting for a new convex square glass and then it just needs two rods retuned.

@9mikeraven 6 жыл бұрын

What's that other clock in the background at 0:59?

@connorbliss8669 4 жыл бұрын

That was the Napoleon clock that has an unnamed 6 note chime.

@bekarecord6985 5 жыл бұрын

I´ve got a Kienzle wall clock from my grandparents with the potsdamer gong. The special mechanic of the gong is completely different from those used in these chimney clocks, the "bell-bars" (I dont know how you would call them in english, we would say Klangstäbe or Glockenstäbe) are much longer and the gong runs much slower. It came with two other brass cylinders with a different hole structure, which can be placed instead of the potsdam-cylinder using a spring clip. One of them plays the nazi-anthem "die fahne hoch" (horst wessel-lied) and the other one plays "Volk ans Gewehr!" which is also a nazi-era song... both sound quite good, but not as beauatiful as the potsdam gong.

@TommyWylie 5 жыл бұрын

I am intrigued by this, as I have heard of Kienzle clocks playing the Horst Wessel Lied, but I have only heard of the Volk Ans Gewehr chime on clocks by Mauthe. Are you sure the Volk Ans Gewehr drum belongs to the Kienzle? It would be great to hear them all on a video.

@Justmyopinionlol 11 жыл бұрын

is Kienzle a prestigious marque? What other brands are of comparable to quality from Germany? I see many of them on ebay. They don't seem that rare. I do like their designs though.

@bprife 9 жыл бұрын

Sounds good. What kind of chimes does it play on the half hour even though it strikes the top of the hour counting the hour?

@TommyWylie 9 жыл бұрын

Billy Rife The chime is the tune "Üb Immer Treu Und Redlichkeit", as played by the Garnisonskirche in Potsdam, Germany.

@Eza_yuta 5 жыл бұрын

Can you give me advice how to spot Postdamer clock on ebay while there is no video to heard?

@TommyWylie 5 жыл бұрын

They were only made by Kienzle. Look at photos of the movement, and look for the large wheel and sub-plate. Compare with the inside view of mine.

@Eza_yuta 5 жыл бұрын

@@TommyWylie thank you for you explanation

@enricoveth8294 3 жыл бұрын

Typisches Arte Deco 1930er jahre

@ogClockTV 5 жыл бұрын

Kind of a short song!

@TommyWylie 5 жыл бұрын

I regret selling this clock but I needed the money for travelling.

@ogClockTV 5 жыл бұрын

You sold it? But It was such a nice clock!

@connorbliss8669 4 жыл бұрын

No! He didn’t sell it! By the the did he not just say he would regret selling it!? And yes it was a nice clock that I do know.

@jasonshorologicalplace9459 3 жыл бұрын

@@connorbliss8669 he did sell it to go on a flight but like he said he regrets it that he sold it

@KaciCooperations 2 жыл бұрын

@@TommyWylie please don't say that! This clock is nice!

@listerstormablecartoonandt1103 5 жыл бұрын

Hitler's Westminster chime

@PiotrK2022 9 жыл бұрын

Sounds very, very crappy...