Learn more about this virtual unknown vehicle, the Ford LTD P6 Town Car!
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@jeffrobodine85792 күн бұрын
Looks like am AMC Ambassador with a Chrysler Cordoba nose.
@THROTTLEPOWER2 күн бұрын
That's what I was thinking
@dickbiggerstaff57292 күн бұрын
Exactly!
@AtomicBuffalo2 күн бұрын
I see Bentley in the nose. Some of the Ambassador-ness comes from the way the chassis seems undersized for the body. (Plenty in the gentle curves and economical rear too.)
@sergioleone35832 күн бұрын
Words right out of my mouth, verbatim!
@gregt86382 күн бұрын
@@AtomicBuffaloI agree..the grill & headlights.
@gergatron70002 күн бұрын
Hi, Aussie here. Some clarifications to make: * The T-bar auto shifter indeed uses the thumb button to actuate it. The "button" you see on the "pinky" side is a fake one to make the handle symmetrical. We aren't that stupid, c'mon! *The 351 Cleveland was assembled locally from 1972 from local and imported parts, and completely made here from around 1975, finishing in 1982 in mainstream Fords but continuing in some non-emissions vehicles (ie: F-trucks) for a few more years after that. Ford Oz were the source for all DeTomaso V8s until the supply dried up in 1988, when they went to the US 5.0 EFI. The P6 LTD was a stretched Fairlane body. They are effectively a factory limousine. The stretch came from lengthening the body aft of the B-pillar by approx 6", with the roof joint conveniently being covered by the vinyl. The door skin I believe was bespoke but the frame was cut and shut with extensions being spot-welded in. I've seen one at the wrecking yard with its rear door skins gone and saw the said joints in the door internals. Not sure about the windows, but longer glass wouldn't be too hard to make. * The P6 nose was fibreglass. * I don't think many share your distain for its styling. There are plenty of uglier cars out there, many of them American. * Ford Australia kicked off its own Fairlane line really in 67 with the ZA. Unlike the US Fairlane, it was entirely based on the Falcon platform (with different front and rear panels and lights), but were lengthened at the rear wheel dogleg by around 4". The Falcon ute and wagon also shared this stretched chassis. Although the first Fairlane used a few bits and bobs here and there from their Ford US counterparts, they were for the most part, a local development. We did amazing things on a shoestring, things that US makers could only dream of doing on the same money. Have you ever heard of the 250 six crossflow? That came out in 76 and an alloy version came out in 80. It used Cleveland canted valve geometry and made great power for the smog era. * We could only update major sheetmetal every 8 years or so, with a facelift every 2-3 years. Luxury cars were a big deal considering the outlay in body tooling needed vs sales volumes. * The Aus Fairlane tradition of basing the chassis on that of the Falcon continued nearly (not quite) to the bitter end in 2016, but the extra long wheelbase LTD was only offered over three Fairlane models: ZF (73-74), ZG (74-76) and ZH (76-78). The ZF and ZG era LTDs were assigned the "P5" model (the ZG was a facelifted ZF) whereas the ZH as you mentioned was the "P6" in LTD form. From 79 onwards, the LTD would share the Fairlane wheelbase (I think they had ample rear legroom by then to be honest) but it would have higher luxury trim levels and gadgets than its stablemate.
@blautens2 күн бұрын
That's some really great and detailed info. Thanks!
@loveisall55202 күн бұрын
I agree about the styling. To my eyes it's not unattractive at all. I was in college here in the seventies and you're right, we certainly had some pug-ugly American cars then and some really homely Japanese ones also!
@Primus542 күн бұрын
Great info from our Aussie cousins. I too noticed the shifter release button on the “proper” side clearly shown in the photo at 10:45. I really like this car’s interior, too. Any idea the price of these at the time?
@UncleJoeLITE2 күн бұрын
Nice work mate.
@CaptHollister2 күн бұрын
At 10:39 you can actually see the button on the driver's side of the shifter.
@JayMcK-yj8ht2 күн бұрын
Growing up in Australia in the 70’s I remember them well , by the time I got my license in the late 80’s these are cheap and fun to drive.
@raph7702 күн бұрын
The P6 LTD was a very cool and prestigious car in Aust in the late 70s. I have a local car magazine from 1977-78 where a US Ford exec wrote a letter to the magazine stating that he'd been on holidays in Aust with his wife and while here, visited a Ford dealership to see what was availabe. He said he thought the local range was better than what Ford was offering in the US at the time.
@commodorenut2 күн бұрын
In late 2010 I had US colleagues come out. All of them immediately wanted an FG Falcon after they experienced a ride in a Barra. But then I took them to Prodrive (FPV) and 2 of them got to experience the Miami GT-E press car. One had recently bought the first gen “retro” styled mustang, and bemoaned how much better the Aussie 4-door was. Several more visits over the following few years had all of them wanting to take an FG back home with them. Yanks like Aussie Fords!
@culcuneСағат бұрын
@@raph770 look at that absolute pig, the Gran Torino, and then look at the Aussie Falcon coupe. Even with the Torino with its red stripes in the TV show 'Starsky and Hutch' it was the embodiment of the saying, 'Putting lipstick on a pig'! Look at the Mustang lineup for a second good, bad example of what Ford was selling here in the US.
@brentfairlie91592 күн бұрын
Here in New Zealand, back in the day a friend of mines father had one of these. It was the Silver Monarch edition with plush red upholstery. Never forgotten that car.
@Justin-hb6cg2 күн бұрын
Variable ratio steering was invented in Australia. Patented by Arthur Ernest Bishop.
@aeHyde2 күн бұрын
love the Aussies morphs of American cars. Mark Behr has a channel all about these types of cars. thanks for this feature, Adam
@Low7602 күн бұрын
They definitely aren't a morph by this point.
@omcara12 күн бұрын
Ricardo Montalban would be proud of how they built this car down under... Especially the interior upholstery with the rich "Corinthian Kangaroo" leather. 😄
@mirisch642 күн бұрын
Rich Kangoorinthian Leather
@commodorenut2 күн бұрын
I preferred the acres of red velour in the silver monarch model my great-uncle bought as his retirement car. That thing was so plush, and as young kids, we could almost play hide & seek in that rear seat!
@jb75912 күн бұрын
Khaaaaan!!!
@armandodimarzio113615 сағат бұрын
Hahaa
@lordhumungous79082 күн бұрын
I owned one of these. It was my daily driver from 2006 to 2010.
@fericyde2 күн бұрын
I'm curious to know -- were these based upon the Falcon unibody chassis or did they have a full frame like the Galaxie 500/LTDs of the US which they greatly resemble from a sheet-metal perspective (front end excepting)?
@williamhoffmann14452 күн бұрын
@@fericydeThey were Falcon based. Another poster above has given details of how the platform was stretched from the Fairlane platform, which was itself a stretch of the Falcon
@dcanmore2 күн бұрын
it is rumoured that the Ayatollah of RocknRolla had one but couldn't scavenge enough guzzolene for it.
@nuggeth91972 күн бұрын
The peak of LTD in Australia was really the first; that being the 1973 P5 LTD. Stunning car, and the only Australian car I can think of with hidden headlights (ignoring the Landau variant). Also the gear selector has the button on both sides for decoration, but it's only functional on the side with the thumb.
@michaelwitas94822 күн бұрын
I think Ford might have switched the position of the functional button, depending on whether the car was left or right hand drive.
@deanstevenson65272 күн бұрын
🥝✔️ Bishops Kirby power steering was an Australian patent, that GM procured. The 71-73 Mustangs got it from the F body GM cars. Ford Australia and GM- Holden used it from 1971 to the late 80's...same ratio as the Firebird and Camaro
@gergatron70002 күн бұрын
Also Aussie Chryslers, but the big 3 all shared a lot of stuff to make local components viable. Diffs, gearboxes, carburettors, lots of stuff.
@WorksOnMyComputer2 күн бұрын
Well some on here may not like the styling, but remember this car gave you Mad Max, because both of them are variants on Australia's Ford Falcon under the skin, running on a variant of the same chasis and mechanical package and both are from the same generation of Falcon. Take a look at those big leaf springs on this LTD and you might remember them being just as prominent under Max's car. Now have a good look at the door handles and the windscreen. Even the front doors look the same, just a bit stretched on the coupe - which is exactly what Ford did. Yes, this is Max's work car if had had moved up the ranks to commissioner in Main Force Patrol.
@joelabbe61852 күн бұрын
Well Adam....you done did hit it out of the park with THIS one!!! It seems many of the Ford of Australia were a cut above, or at least a little more "modern" looking than the U.S. models, and this one is no exception. As the video progressed, I was flip-flopping between "weird" and "gorgeous". Then the rear 3/4 view and interior just blew me away! In addition to Cordoba, Rolls and Italian influences, it does scream to me of AMC and even a little '69 Grand Prix in the rear. Wow! AND....Those short glimpses of the Australian Fairlane??!!! Gimme more!!!! Thanks Adam for all you do with these videos. There is NOTHING automotive related on YT that I look forward to more than your releases. Your attention to detail is mind-blowing.
@phillipevans9414Күн бұрын
Glad you like our strange and unique take on auto's down here...I was only a child getting interested in cars when these came out, and I remember how impressively different they looked in the flesh to anything else on the road down here. Now I'm not so sure the exterior (front) styling really works, and I'd much rather a ZH Fairlane, as they look just right to me - good ones are pretty pricey these days, but maybe someday I'll be able to own one. Everyone seems to want the performance models of the standard wheelbase cars, and their prices are getting stupid, but at my age, I'd rather cruise in luxury than hoon anyway. I already own a '93 NC II Fairlane Sportsman Ghia, which has the Tickford enhanced performance 4.0L straight six (the grandpa of the legendary Barra), which is cheaper to buy and run than the V8, but just as quick, and oh so smooth. Google it if you're interested (I always really liked the styling because IMHO it was very American in a good way. Cheers!
@philip41932 күн бұрын
I rode around in one of these a fair bit as a kid in the late 70's, as a neighbourhood friend's dad had one of these (he was a senior manager in a pharmaceutical firm and I believe it was a company-supplied car). I remember sitting in the back seat and playing with the cigarette lighter secreted in the arm rest in my door card; being a typical 70's car it had like five ashtrays and as many lighters scattered around the interior. I also remember playing endlessly with the power windows & door locks, which my own parent's very plain Ford Cortina certainly did not have. Also, since these Aussie-built high-compression 351 Cleaveland V8's ran on premium leaded gas without the cats & most of the other US-style emissions restrictions, those big cars really had some pep and were quite lively on the road from memory.
@donalddodson73652 күн бұрын
Thank you for sharing. My families first car with power steering and air conditioning evoked similar fascination for me.
@commodorenut2 күн бұрын
We had “Super” petrol back then - full lead. ULP wasn’t mandated until 1986 for all new cars, and Super continued to be available for another 15 or so years, albeit with ever reducing lead levels over the last few of those years.
@theotherwayofstopping47172 күн бұрын
I remember these well. The ride of NZ PM Rob Muldoon and Aussie PM Malcolm Fraser. A neighbour of ours back in 80/81 had the Silver Monarch version, which was silver (obviously) with bordello-burgundy interior. Even as an 8 year old I loved it! Someone will confirm or correct me bit I *think* Broadmeadows used a RHD-configured Mercury dash in the '76 ZH??? Could be wrong. Hearing it pronounced "zee-aitch" is just funny to my ears. The true-blue way would be "zed-haitch"😁 Love these videos Adam, and Americans' reactions to what must be really strange cars to you guys. For this car's purposes, Australia shall now be called the "Landau Nunder" (boom-tish, etc).
@Galfrid2 күн бұрын
Looks like a Rolls that was born and raised in America, then grew up and moved to Australia for that promising new career 🤣
@brianhalberg1312 күн бұрын
....and, as a result of living in Oz, it spent a lot of time at the beach and stretching its 351 legs on short drives like Sydney to Perth. This meant it stayed fitter and leaner than its American cousins.
@davidbeard78422 күн бұрын
Adam, that was a nice clip. Sorry but you’re completely wrong about the T bar. The button was thumb activated and you should be aware that this arrangement was used in the UK and South Africa on many floor shift automatics. The variable ratio steering was locally made and no GM parts. Australia was ahead of the US in terms of running gear. The 4 wheel discs were all ventilated as well. See if you can source some info about the P5 LTD, you should have a look. Those things flew. Ford Australia continued to make the Cleveland 302 and 351 long after the US stopped production and Australian 351s were used in De Tomaso vehicles
@tasaab2 күн бұрын
That center console is totally Ferrari, look at those switches mounted between the seats. Love the Lincoln side view mirrors. Would love to know more about the Australian car market (South American as well), with the mix of US developed floor plans and then augmenting from there. Yet, lot’s of bits and pieces that were probably shipped straight from Detroit for use on the vehicles.
@Low7602 күн бұрын
Followed by European chassis use.
@rayshaw52562 күн бұрын
Anything American in '76 would have had enormous bumpers. This car looks pretty good to me.
@user-en9zo2ol4z2 күн бұрын
I was about to point out how popular these cars were in Australia, when I noted you had dedicated the episode to just that. Their engine capacity meant they were hardly strained, so became cheap, and very reliable transport for quite a while. People in their 20s would hot them up and fir massive stereo systems to them. They became theft magnets sadly.
@roylcraft2 күн бұрын
Very cool, even has Lincoln side mirrors. The front is so very Cordoba. But still cool. The back looks like an AMC Ambassador.
@alanblanes28762 күн бұрын
Argentina certainly made such EXCELLENT Ambassadors. Based on the 1965/66 version, they were made for many years after and had leather upholstery and electric windows as standard. They should have been exported.
@Primus542 күн бұрын
@@alanblanes2876My stepfather bought a brand new ‘65 Rambler (AMC) Ambassador 990H that was quite luxurious and “sporty” for a full size vehicle at the time. It was a creamy white color with a red top, 2-door with red vinyl interior, bucket seats, console with floor shifter, and factory A/C. I took my driver’s test in it in 1970. At the time, we teenage muscle car lovers had a very low opinion of AMC vehicles in general so I was always hoping we’d trade it in for something else. But in hindsight it was actually a decent unique vehicle.
@Lovemonkey20052 күн бұрын
I like the car. I love the interior. I wish it was available in the US. You do an amazing job, Adam. Thank you!
@alanblanes28762 күн бұрын
I agree...it had more allure than most of the American Ford models of the time.
@edwardkantowicz47072 күн бұрын
Love it! Very handsome car.
@lorieandpatrickdavies74832 күн бұрын
Interesting episode. The styling really says "AMC" to me, rather than Ford.
@mrdiplomat90182 күн бұрын
Especially the rear view 👍
@phillipevans9414Күн бұрын
@@mrdiplomat9018 . My '73 Matador rear end had similar styling cues. Cheers!
@jnucci1Күн бұрын
Agreed, it has a strong AMC vibe.
@yarrawest2 күн бұрын
My father had a P6 LTD as a company car (Dad was fortunate to have driven many different cars from Ford Australia, Holden, Chrysler Australia and Leyland Australia back then). As a young guy in the 70’s, I remember the LTD being huge (by Australian standards) and the ride being ‘wallowly’ and interior very plush. One being in Velour (from memory the Silver Monarch version) and the other Town Car model part leather. Actually worked for Ford Australia back in the mid to late 80’s, both at the Geelong works 0:15 and later Head Office in Melbourne (Campbellfield). At that time the XE Falcon, Fairlane and LTD were about to be released to market. Great video, as all your video’s are.
@gkjsooley2 күн бұрын
Great video - the Brazilian Ford Landau and Spain's Dodge 3700GT would make interesting subjects as well. Flush door handles were a requirement in Australia. Do a search for Australian-built Minis and you'll see they have flush door handles.
@powelllaneКүн бұрын
Always great to be introduced to a never-before-seen model. I appreciate your detailed descriptions and supporting images. 10/10
@624radicalham2 күн бұрын
I've been on a mission for years to show my American friends these cars, as they really have no knowledge of them, and now thanks to you I can point them to these detailed and complete videos that tell the whole story! Thank youuuu
@The_R-n-I_Guy2 күн бұрын
Australia had some great cars.
@louiskats51162 күн бұрын
G’day Adam, You little ripper featuring the P6. I remember seeing these everywhere into late 80’s highly sort after even knew of one in Adelaide with a 460 BB do low 11’s down the quarter mile. Now only at car shows, my neighbour Johno his father bought one knew & now it is passed onto him & it is immaculate. It was the car of choice for the Prime Minister of the day too. Now you gotta do one on my favourite the P5 LTD. Hope you are well, come to Australia I will organise you a cruise in a P6. Cheers Louis Kats your number 1 Fan in Melbourne, Australia 👍 🇦🇺 🇺🇸
@RareClassicCars2 күн бұрын
Thx Louis!
@Low7602 күн бұрын
But I'm the number one Melbourne fan Louis! Been here since 1000 subs..
@Billyboy9392 күн бұрын
It looks like an AMC Oleg Cassini Matador that had a child with a Ford Torino.
@phillipevans9414Күн бұрын
I had a '73 Rambler Matador here in Australia, they were assembled here from kits, but were slightly different to the US models. In the case of mine, it was basically an Ambassador (high spec; mine had white leather interior, a/c, power windows etc, all standard) with the (better looking IMHO) Matador front clip. Mine also had the 360ci V8, but other engine options were available. I owned it from 1987 to about '95ish, and got $1500 for it...the same car now would be circa $30k, and I'd like to own one again, but not at those prices. Cheers!
@shnorth8882 күн бұрын
Australian GM, Ford and Chrysler cars has always had interesting takes on their North American cousins.
@alpharaptor7510Күн бұрын
We just made them look better 😂
@steveoh98382 күн бұрын
Australia for the win...cool cars down under..😀
@michaele7880Күн бұрын
My uncle has an LTD like the one shown. Silver with plush red velour interior. For everyone in the family it was such a treat to go for a ride in it. Beautiful car.
@richardbrimble131923 сағат бұрын
Ford Australia made terrific cars. Such a shame all local manufacturers closed.
@stevetoms61062 күн бұрын
Interesting to note that the back seats had shoulder belts, long before they became standard in the U.S.
@donalddodson73652 күн бұрын
Yes, European safety influences were fought by U S. designers allegedly based on production costs. My hunch is it had much more to do with the 'Merican sense of "you can't make me" regarding automobile safety and fuel economy. 🤔
@rjbiker662 күн бұрын
@@donalddodson7365 the Europeans didn't mandate rear belts until much later. The USA was pretty early to mandate belts front and rear even though they only had to be lap belts. Australia mandated lap/sash belts for all outboard passengers from the late 1960s. Any other passenger had to have a lap belt. Mandatory seatbelt wearing for passengers then became law in early 1970s.
@michaelwitas94822 күн бұрын
They have a turn signal stalk with horn switch similar to that used on my 1974 Mercury Capri. The inner body and leaf springs appear to be derived from the 1966-71 US mid sized Fords.
@WorksOnMyComputer2 күн бұрын
Good spot. The turn indicator design did start life in Europe. We had that generation Capri in Australia too, although ours kept its European styling on the front end. We also had its European stablemates Escort and Cortina. In the case of the Cortina it had some Australian content on the trim and the option of our local Ford straight six cylinder that wasn't used anywhere else in the world for Cortina.
@michaelwitas94822 күн бұрын
@@WorksOnMyComputer That same turn signal horn honk feature was also present on my US market 1978 Ford Fairmont. But it did not have that nice flat area on the end that was present on the original European design.
@donalddodson73652 күн бұрын
Thank you. I had no idea our cousins "down under" had a flare for large luxury cars. I especially like amber rear turn lights, which American auto manufacturers seem to avoid.
@Low7602 күн бұрын
A legal requirement here thankfully.
@michaelthurston589514 сағат бұрын
Always entertaining and so cool to see the cars from the past.
@markedwards48792 күн бұрын
Personally I never liked the P6 looks, but the P5 looked awesome imo. Hidden headlights really suited the extended XA Falcon style front guards, a full width rear light and running lights in the top of the rear guards. We had some friends who always drove LTD’s when I was a kid. They were huge. The best of all though was the P5 Landau, which was an XA Falcon coupe but with the LTD treatment. A mate bought one in the early 80s - they looked great and had absolutely every option including full leather interior, 351, 9” LSD and 4 wheel disc brakes.
@mattskustomkreations2 күн бұрын
I dig those aircraft control style levers for the AC in the center console.
@tonyelliott77342 күн бұрын
I never seen a picture of that or knew it even existed...lol
@HazeyAuto2 күн бұрын
Former owner of a 1991 DC LTD here- terrific cars, I always loved the Lincoln-esque styling of them. Currently on the hunt for another.
@phillipevans9414Күн бұрын
'93 NC II Sportsman Ghia here, and I love it...still looks class IMHO. Cheers!
@roadmaster7202 күн бұрын
nice video. i love to see the different versions of ford and others in both australia and canada versions. i am suscribed to you now. keep 'em coming!!
@MoultrieGeek2 күн бұрын
As soon as I saw that padded center console I thought Maserati. I'm stunned that Ford was still using leaf springs that far into the 70's. I'd drive one in a heartbeat though.
@philip41932 күн бұрын
Ford Australia was still using rear leaf springs on their full-sized wagons and Utes (ie: Ranchero's) until they ceased production last decade. Their full-sized sedans were still also using the cart springs on the rear into the 80's.
@MoultrieGeek2 күн бұрын
@@philip4193 The utes and wagons makes sense for the higher rates and load capacity they can give but using them on sedans is shocking that late in the game.
@gergatron70002 күн бұрын
Not at all shocking. Aussie rural roads were very rough still back then, and Ford Oz did the best it could by refining and fine-tuning its design. Fords were known for excellent high-speed cruising comfort, and yes they did get coils on sedans in 82. Leaves were always best for towing, and give very predictable rear end handling, also great longevity in bushes, which couldn't be said of the 4-link GM rear ends that would have the upper arms fighting each other through their different arcs. How about you drive one first before criticising it?
@commodorenut2 күн бұрын
The leaf rear under our 81 LTD Cartier made it the best tow car we ever had. Only my current FG comes close to it. Coils in the rear of sedans from ‘82 were a small improvement and hardly noticed by the majority of buyers and drivers. The revised boot layout and depth was a much bigger improvement to real life usage.
@Low7602 күн бұрын
@@philip4193incorrect, the xe Falcon of 1981 went to coil spring with watts linkage. Which is still used in the ford Everest 4x4 that was engineered in Australia.
@davidhynd44352 күн бұрын
I owned a ZH Fairlane for over 13 years. 351 Cleveland coupled to a C4 T-bar auto. Dark metallic blue with a light blue vinyl roof. Very 1970s. One of the nicest cars I've ever owned. Because of the rapidly rising price of petrol I had an LPG conversion done with special valve seats installed in the heads. The boot was so huge that the LPG tank fitted neatly under the rear parcel shelf. At one point LPG was less than 30 cents a litre so it was surprisingly cheap to run. A mile-eater par excellence. Sorry I ever sold it.
@chuckselvage31572 күн бұрын
My neighbour owns one he restored it. My dad owned a later model LTD back in the late 80s very nice cars.
@toddbonin69262 күн бұрын
I love Aussie Fords and Holdens. I wish they’d have imported them to the States. I love perusing through old Aussie car brochures and dreaming of what I would have driven over there.
@jayweiss43782 күн бұрын
Mad Max cars….. very cool and many found in California today….
@larry_anderson2 күн бұрын
To an American, Aussie Fords, Chryslers and Holdens always look like they came from an alternate universe. So close to US stuff, but not quite right.
@SeventhAnubis0712 күн бұрын
LOL. Actually, to foreign countries, American stuff was the craziest alien stuff in the world. If future archaeologists dig up some late 50's to early 60's American cars, they'll wonder what sort gods we worshiped.
@Low7602 күн бұрын
@@SeventhAnubis071exactly. Man 70s American cars are ugly. Holden being forced to go American style on the Kingswood for the HJ on was the worst decision given how popular the hq was!
@culcuneКүн бұрын
As an American, what are you smoking? I give you exhibit A--the ugliest Ford EVER--the US Gran Torino coupe. Ford of Australia had that BEAUTIFUL Falcon coupe. Ford US rolled out the Mustang 2 Cobra. At the same time, Ford of Australia had the Cobra Falcon coupe. The Austalian XA, XB, and XC 4 door sedans were all 'sporty/muscly' through the 70s. Nothing was sporty or muscle in the US from Ford as far as 4 doors went. The GM cars--the Torana also stayed sporty/muscly through the 70s. Ford, GM, and Chrysler in Australia had sporty 6 cylinder cars in addition to their muscle V8s. Chrysler I will kind of agree with you since they went away and ours still had some muscle left through the 70s.
@Richo732Күн бұрын
@@Low760 The HQ looks a lot like 1960's GM NA inspired styling, which was definitely a high point compared to 1970s GM NA styling trends.
@JulesN580Күн бұрын
@@culcune l think that US car nuts would by fascinated by the high performance Toranas - with a 308 in a car the size of a Cortina, my brothers’ and my brains just about melted when we moved over the the UK in ‘76!
@markhooper1352Күн бұрын
Adam, a very notable Rolls-Royce specialist in Chicago - lovely Australian chap - Rodd Sala - Park Ward Motors has at this very moment a P6 LTD in his glamorous showrooms. It stands proud and prestigious amongst British Royalty, as it should. The quality of the Australian LTD was astounding. They were designed and offered for Heads of State, Corporate and Government Elite. I know... I owned one for 14yrs. They would give a Lincoln of the same era a run for their money. I own a 1976 Rolls-Royce Silver Shadow now and I can confirm the LTD rivals her in ride, comfort, silence, handling and braking. I would ask you research and present a 1973-1975 P5 LTD Limousine and Landau also - I would stretch to say they are even more exquisite in styling, plus the original Australian designed and built LTD.
@62Madison2 күн бұрын
Thanks for covering this big (121”/3074mm wb) Aussie LTD -sort of the ultimate malaise/brougham era car! I love the interior, but the front end is a little over the top and I never cared for those 1971 style door handles.
@Steph-pn2kqКүн бұрын
An American calling an Australian car over-the-top is just hilarious. The US has never been known for restraint...
@JayMcK-yj8ht2 күн бұрын
There is a Aussie guy in Chicago who has one in his collection , if you track him down and see if you can do a drive of it .
@arnesahlen27042 күн бұрын
Cool to see these local-focus cars. I much regret the move toward "world cars" crushing local/regional design initiatives of eras past.
@Wiencourager2 күн бұрын
Looks like a AMC matador with a new front end
@floriandutke96542 күн бұрын
I do enjoy your selection of Australian products from the Big 3. There are definitely some very interesting vehicles that got developed down there.
@stuartyoung41822 күн бұрын
I wish that they had been available in the U.S., with LHD, of course! Minus the vinyl roof, it has that taut European Ford styling, IMHO, and a sweet interior! And 351 (hopefully not Modified) power, C6 trans, and 9" rear end...bulletproof!
@JohnSmith-rw8uh9 сағат бұрын
351 Cleveland.... Not windsor
@Hydrogenblonde10 сағат бұрын
The variable ratio steering boxes were made by Bendix Bishop. I think they were Aus made. Remember they are right handed, the American boxes are left handed and won't interchange. They are great to drive. People that have never driven a Ford with a Bendix Bishop steering box don't know what they are missing. They crap all over any rack and pinion any day. The chassis is basically 68 Mustang (as were all Australian Fords from the 60s to into the late 80s) but stretched to get the extra length. Those LTD/ZH Fairlane seats are super comfortable. You could drive all day and not get a pain or fatigued.
@Quad8track2 күн бұрын
I love both the P5 and P6 versions of the Ford LTD Town Car from Australia. I'd love to export one to Thailand since we drive on the same side of the road as Australia.
@jamesengland74612 күн бұрын
Great video as always!
@krazmokramer2 күн бұрын
Nice seats/upholstery. Tail lights look similar to the early to mid 60s Riviera, IMO.
@michaelbrown56012 күн бұрын
The interior accoutrements and finishes in the P6 are enviable considering the era, despite the LHD gear selector. Small bumpers lend a muscular exterior profile, especially in 3/4 view. The design, coupled with a global parts bin approach looks good even today
@garyzimmer4149Күн бұрын
The button on the gear selector is on the right side, as were all Australian Falcons and Fairlanes with the T bar auto.
@madmike2624Күн бұрын
Once again, Adam hit us with some of the most obscure cars but from the down under this time!!
@chonga644222 сағат бұрын
Before you mentioned the AMC Ambassador, you had shown a rear view of the car and I thought it reminded me somewhat of my parent's 1969 Ambassador from my childhood.
@rpsmith29902 күн бұрын
The bucket seat design could equally easily be described as having Japanese inspiration. I've seen pictures of a '70s Nissan Cedric or Gloria that had very similar seats, upholstered in that finest Japanese crushed velour.
@sgtalstrafficticketblog24522 күн бұрын
A hybrid vehicle of a different kind. When I look at this LTD TC I actually see a kind of Bentley bespoked for the Australians. The four round headlight pattern, a Bentley grille v Rolls, a fuselage/coke bottleish rear quarter panels. If I knew nothing of this car I would think it possibly was a one off Crewe build out on special order from a middleast sultan for Bentley but made on another brand’s platform like they used to do with Range Rovers. Crazy but think of it.
@donalddodson73652 күн бұрын
I really enjoy your factual, interesting and detailed content. I grew up in the US in the 1950's & '60's. I took my DMV Driver's License test in a 1963 "wide track" Pontiac Bonneville wagon. Thanks!
@RareClassicCars2 күн бұрын
Awesome. Thx!
@pgilb7013 сағат бұрын
Great episode. Grew up with fairlanes, ltds in oz in 70s, 80s.
@benzinabnz8222 күн бұрын
Adam, thanks for this great video of Australia's P6 Ford LTD. The dad of my friend in school bought a special version of this car, called the Silver Monach. (Silver exterior and crushed red velour seating) He was one of the first to have this particular special model, and i remember going for a ride in it. I was amazed by its luxury, and smooth quiet ride, and with electric everything,, this was something to behold. But trust me, just please do a review of Australia's GM subsidiary and Holdens Flagship car, the 1980 - 85 WB Statesman Caprice...this car was an outstanding luxury car in every respect, including ride and handling. It was simply called the Statesman Caprice by General Motors....the Australian Company name of Holden was not written anywhere on the car, or even mentioned in the advertisements.. Designed by ex General Motors designer Leo Pruneau....Wayne Lady would know him, and i think they may have even worked together at some point. This was Australia's Cadillac Seville or even Rolls Royce, with Mercedes inspired Headlights and a Rolls Royce Grill. Leo Pruneau also said that the Aston Martin Lagonda was a strong inspiration for this car, and their are similarities indeed. With Flagship Opel Senator luxury buckets seats front and rear (the rear seats were slightly modified by being very deeply sculptured, and with plush raised headrests to suit being chauffeur driven in), and with ride and handling to match flagship Mercedes and BMW's of the time....and it did more then hold its own during comparison tests with such cars. The more you research this WB Caprice, the more impressed you will be. This car had it all at the time....and was a great and most interesting mix of American and European luxury.... i loved this car. When this car first came out, i was in college doing graphic design, and the dad of my classmate girlfriend owned a Holden Dealership at the time, where he was delivered one of the first Caprices. He also had one of his own to drive around, it was stunning silver with crushed red velour interior. I remember being taken for a ride in this very car, and i couldn't believe how smooth and quiet it was, and luxury like i'd never seen. I also never forget the sight of another beautiful silver Caprice, parked at the front and near a busy business district intersection, with its hazard lights flashing. This car had a chauffeur with black suit and cap in the drivers seat, and a beautiful and elegant sophisticated lady in the rear, just sitting there and putting her lipstick on using a mirror. Perhaps it was a clever publicity stunt by Holden to expose and announce this amazing car to the high end of town... its target audience. If it was, then it was brilliant, because there was a lot of business people walking by, and it caught most peoples attention. This car certainly had classy presence. Fun facts ....they even flew one to the US for the annual General Motors showcase event for their executives to view the up and coming models.....apparently they were all very very impressed with the Caprice. The Rolls Royce inspired grill was hand assembled in the factory. The Caprice also had exclusive designed and made 15" polished alloy wheels, using flush Allen key Bolts, so that they could not be stollen easily. It used sophisticated independent Radial Tuned Coil Suspension all round, including disc brakes all round too. LSD was optional, as was a heavy duty radiator for big country crossings. With a six window design, this car was most elegant in profile too, and again very Rolls Royce like. From the direct rear, it looked a bit German, with its horizontal lights. Just an outstanding example of American and European luxury all in one.....It would have been a better car than the highly regarded Seville in virtually every respect for this very reason i would have thought. Please check it out.
@commodorenut2 күн бұрын
I reckon the WB Series 2 Caprice will blow him away, and the HDT Magnum would be unfathomable to an American!
@Low7602 күн бұрын
Now we just need Adam to see this post.
@davehunt61762 күн бұрын
I would say a fuselage-era Plymouth with ‘78 Riviera taillights and, sorry Adam ,Cordoba front. Great interior.
@chadakoin12 күн бұрын
The side profile reminds me of my old 70 LTD.
@simonf89022 күн бұрын
Very classy for Australia. Built on a stretched Falcon wagon chassis. Favoured by Government and business Huge rear leg room. The ZH was actually a good handling big car. I owned inexpensive with 302 Cleveland.
@davidbernardi3393Күн бұрын
The variable ratio steering was designed by a company called "Bishop Steering", which developed many innovations over the 30 years from the late '60's to the late 90's. (I worked there from the late 80's till 2001). It originally went into Jaguars , then into Holdens and Fords. it was manufactured in Australia by a company called "Kirby Engineering" in Rockdale. Bishop invented variable ratio rack and Pinion steering, which first appeared in the Camira, then went into all Commodores until the new millennium. It was used in many overseas cars as well. Unfortunately with the demise of Australian manufacturing, it all disappeared.
@IanMicheal6 сағат бұрын
He highly doubted an australia company could do anything so good had to be gm usa..
@eldoradony2 күн бұрын
I never knew Ford had an Australian only model. Looking at it, I see hints of Chrysler, Ford, and AMC. I think I have seen those tail lights somewhere before but I can't place them.
@WorksOnMyComputer2 күн бұрын
Ford Australia basically started doing its own thing from the late 70's through to the end of Falcon in 2016. The final Falcon were basically Australian designed and built throughout by that point. They did hit the parts box though and used parts from Ford US and Europe in earlier times and later started importing and modifying V8 engines too. The straight six was originally a US design in the 60's, but was constantly improved and reengineered through to end of production in 2016 and was the most popular engine choice in Ausrtalian Fords.. These days the turbo version of it is imported to the US as its a great racing engine. Anyway, General motors Holden and Ford parts crossed over from time to time. For example the power steering on this car and things like courtesy lights were shared in the 80s between the two brands. Because Ford Australia had a smaller market and a much smaller budget they had to be creative. They did some amazing cars that would have cost several times their development budget if done in the US and at times made cars clearly superior to the US. The second generation Taurus comes to mind, which Ford US insisted was sold in Australia. Problem was the local Falcon was superior to it in just about every way and that was the soon to be superceded Falcon. Needless to say Taurus was a complete flop out here and the initial batch imported took Ford four years to get rid of.
@billwood61682 күн бұрын
To me it looks like a 71 Mercury
@Low7602 күн бұрын
And the basic design of them started then so that makes sense.
@michaelpedro42832 күн бұрын
I had a 1970 LTD, black over gold with bone leather interior, it had hidden headlights and small wings at the rear, it was also the first Australian designed and built sedan with four wheel disc brakes. Lowered cruiser with fat tyres, was a barge boat, but still a lot of fun to drive. Although it was a 351, V8, If you flattened the throttle, is would not skid, but instead point its nose in the air and gracefully coast off.
@1aikane2 күн бұрын
Love these barges
@UberLummox2 күн бұрын
Based on a Fairlane. More mid-size. At least in the US of A.
@Jason-xb3jh2 күн бұрын
My little, 5 foot tall Grandmother drove a 1985 Ford LTD Crown Victoria. 😅 White with blue velour interior. I remember it being pretty “lux” for a ford. A big car also. My Grandmother looked like a little kid behind the steering wheel. 🤭
@paulmiles3457Күн бұрын
We always used them as towing cars. They were very good at towing our horse floats.
@sentientsoverign40272 күн бұрын
I had one back in the 90s, bought it for $400 as a parts car, the roof was completely rusted out, like sand, you could push your finger through the headliner and out the vinyl top. The E brake had rusted so bad it wouldnt disengage, so i had to drive it home with the e brake on, smoke pouring out of both back drums😂 Great driveline though, 351 4v, fmx and 9 inch lsd
@russellduguesclin20012 күн бұрын
Remember seeing these in Melbourne as a kid in the 80s, we thought they were gangsters cars!
@robertvance1873Күн бұрын
Wow 😳 1976 looks like a Catalina, AMC, Cordoba, and a FORD got Down and Got FUNKY LOL 🤣
@user-ws4op6hs9wКүн бұрын
These vehicles were also exclusively used as Commonwealth (Government) vehicles for Federal politicians and government officials. I was an RAAF (Airforce) officer at the time of their release and was happy to be chauffeur driven in one of them, on a daily basis, to and from my off base unit (rather than getting a petrol allowance, using my own car). It was extremely comfortable and a relaxing way to get to and from work.
@ricrossi5269Күн бұрын
Thanks again Adam, great work, all the way from Tasmania, cheers.
@2H25212 күн бұрын
Very strange car! It looks a lot more like a Chrysler of the time than a Ford.
@OathTaker32 күн бұрын
That's what I said, it looks like a Chinese made copy of a Cordova. 😅
@Djr672 күн бұрын
Looks like a Ford to me but I'm Australian.
@Low7602 күн бұрын
Look up Chrysler valiant and Chrysler by Chryslers made in Australia. That's a Chrysler to us.
@JulesN580Күн бұрын
@@Low760 I think that Adam would find the ‘Chrysler by Chrysler’ a REALLY interesting car - particularly the coupe with a 360, as it’s a great looking car and an Australian take on Mopar fuselage styling.
@JulesN580Күн бұрын
In the mid 80s at 23 l bought a metallic green 1970 Chrysler VG VIP - the Chrysler by Chrysler’s predecessor - with the ‘Fireball’ 318 & torqueflite. Man l loved that car - with its clear US Dodge Dart DNA.
@ashleygordon3467Күн бұрын
A few points: 1. The P6 was a facelift of the P5 which was basically the same, but with new grille/front end and new dashboard. The P5 had covered headlights. 2. The Town Car was a limit3d option, as was another version called the Silver Monarch (another RR reference) which was all silver with cranberry velour interior 3. Nearly all senior politicians, serving as Ministers and indeed the Prime Minister, had these and the P5 that preceded it. Many were white. 4. The Fairlane in Australia was a stretched Falcon and this was a stretched Fairlane. LTD’s had a 121 wheelbase. 5. GM and Chrysler had no direct competitors as the LTD had a considerably longer wheelbase (the others were 116 or 114 inches like the Fairlane. They were exceptionally comfortable and well equipped cars and made quite a statement. You knew there was an important meeting happening when you saw several of these parked outside!
@arlynking13002 күн бұрын
If the Chrysler had made a four door Cordoba this would have been it however I do like the car. Thanks for doing a video on this I enjoyed it.
@THROTTLEPOWER2 күн бұрын
Great vid!!! 🤜🤛
@chase8global16 сағат бұрын
I remember as a child in 1977 car shopping with dad.... it came down to the P6 and a Fairlane 500 72 ZC...... we drove away in the ZC.... he didnt like the levers on the centre consol.
@drwho5342 күн бұрын
Overall a strong resemblance to the AMC Ambassador of the same era. Always find Aussie cars a strange but interesting 'mashup' of British and American styling from the parts bin.
@Lasuvidaboy-jp4xe2 күн бұрын
The P6 LTD front end design also resembles mid 1960s Mercurys and the ‘65 Lincoln.
@jayweiss43782 күн бұрын
Love the Australian cars in the original Mad Max film! Few of those cars have made it over to the US and are still very popular among collectors…
@markdc1145Күн бұрын
This car reminds me of those photo composites used in car insurance ads where they don't want you to recognize the brand, so it's a random mixture of all.
@craigst1300Күн бұрын
I remember growing up with these back in the day, Such a comfortable car on those long drives. The variable ratio power steering while not sporty did give the car a nice feel without feeling too disconnected from the road. Just some additional info The ZH Fairlane in Marquis Spec received a six way power split bench seat imported from the US for the first couple years of production before changing to bucket seats in the last year or two of production. Fairlanes were always a great full size car for the money, so always sold in in greater numbers (approximatly four times more) than the LTD. Power outputs were probably greater than you were getting in the US as while we had some emission controls, we didn't move to catalytic converters and Unleaded fuel until 1985
@rosschamberlain18232 күн бұрын
Neat and very different looking car.
@MarinCipollina2 күн бұрын
That character line in the side body panel that lilts around the C pillar looks like early '70s Plymouth Fury. Perhaps the variable ratio power steering unit was sourced from GM's Holden Division in Australia ?
@Low7602 күн бұрын
Or ford Torino that Ford worked alongside with the teams.
@DSP19682 күн бұрын
What a treat to see you feature this car! During two visits to Australia, I was always on the lookout for the local market LTDs and was luck enough to see a few, as well as a Ford Landau (the two door version in the previous generation) in yellow gold metallic, driven by the proverbial "little old lady". There was also a "Silver Monarch" edition with silver paint and vinyl roof, and red interior trim. And if you look closely, you'll see a lot of parts from US cars, including the concurrent Lincoln drum speedometer, window switches, the chrome trim on the door panels, etc. Also, the only FoMoCo product of the era that I'm aware of that was available with variable-rate power steering was the 1971-72 Cougar. It was included in a couple of GT/high performance option packages. (It may have been available on the concurrent Mustang as well.). Lastly, the local buff books considered the ZH Fairlane front end to be a good copy of the '68 full-size Mercury, and I agree.
@paulkarwacki71192 күн бұрын
Most of our fairlanes & LTD's were poor man's Lincoln's.
@markbehr882 күн бұрын
These P6 LTDs were very popular in their segment and were favoured by Gov’t depts. despite being unitised, they rode on the same 121” wheelbase as the outgoing 1972 Ford Galaxie. NVH was not quite as good as the American cars, however, handling, braking and rear legroom was superior. The burgundy car you showed towards the end was the Town Car edition - available in Burgundy or Dark Grey. The ZH Fairlane front styling was influenced by the 1968 Mercury full size cars. It too had standard air conditioning and four wheel disc brakes. Both cars were the top sellers in their segments. I have a ZH Fairlane in my collection. The 351 V8 was a Cleveland design and Ford made these into the early 1980’s and in fact exported some of the engines for use in the DeTomaso Pantera.
@jhuber19652 күн бұрын
Thanks for the video! It's interesting to see what US automakers were doing in other parts of the world. The belt line of the P6 (especially the curve-up of the rear door going reward) along with the inset door handles remind me of the 1971 US LTD/Marquis (a favorite body style of mine). The door pull straps are very mid-70's Ford.
@MrSmokingfrog12 күн бұрын
Great video Adam, I have always had a love for these Aussie greats. Some of which I wish had been produced here in the states. 😀
@BogattheMoon2 күн бұрын
Grill on the AU Ford Fairlane GH looks straight from late 60s US Mercury's, particularly the Cyclone.
@manthony2252 күн бұрын
The styling looks more like 1970 than 1976. The front end of the brown one is giving late 60's Lincoln-Mercury.