The developer that came out and said this game could be run on a HDD really deserves an apology from those that believed Sony’s marketing claims.

The fact that this can run on sd card is crazy!

I used to put Naughty Dog as my favourite PlayStation 1st party developer. But I think Insomniac has taken that crown. They make consistent and high quality games. I first noticed it when I played Sunset Overdrive on Xbox.

The video isn't even out long enough for people to have actually watched it all and people are already scrambling to defend insomniac's lies and trying desperately to come up with anything to pretend the evidence isn't right in front of them. 😂🤣

Steamdeck is turning into a great PSP as well

I think the issue is people saying it couldn’t run on an Xbox or PC because of the PS5 SSD. If they had just said it can’t be done on the PS4 because of the need for an SSD, nobody would be clowning ponies.

Love these pc port reviews. Lots of information and entertaining!

Spoiler warning SD card is definitely a load lag fest but I’m surprised about the Hdd drives. Those lies about only being achievable on a ssd/nvme drive is hilarious 😂

seing this in acton makes me very excited to play this on my new top of the line pc i ordered thanks for taking the time to show it

Just built a 4080FE/ i713700K rig and man oh man is this game something else. It legit looks amazing. Excellent port job.

Im convinced this would run on the Sega Saturn with 4mb expansion card.

Now this is the kind of content that keeps me subbed!

Just like the "Unreal Engine 5 will only run on the PS5 SSD" claims

The mods are gonna be crazy on this game

Thanks for reinstalling the game over and over again for us. Great video, Himbo!

S tier port review my guy. You covered everything the people wanted to know.

An the test of the HDD on a mid range-high end rig just goes to show this game doesn't require an SSD. Unless of course you want a more smooth transition between loading screen. Beyond that I'm very much impressed by this. Of course on lower end rigs you'll probably see a few more seconds of loading if you do only hav a HDD Solid video Alexx

Power of the HDD lol

i can already sense it, this comment section alone is gonna be filled with enough fanboy cope and "aCtUaLly🤓 " moments, enough for a meaty video

What I took from this (and some other tests) is that if you have a lot of RAM/VRAM (high end PC), it loads some stuff beforehand and we can see that even on a slow HDD it may struggle in some areas, but in others it loads as it would on SSD, while Steam Deck is generally slower because it doesn't have that much memory to store assets and it works more like PS5 version. And Steam Deck GPU is not as fast in decompressing as Kraken, so it struggles a bit even with SSD

I think the reason why the micro sd card was way slower than the hard drives was likely because the game automatically switches the direct storage GPU decompression to the CPU on weaker hardware (like the steamdeck) and also on low settings options.. which is probably why the nvme SSD on the deck was still noticeably slower compared the desktop

You went hard & deep on Ratchet & Clank for almost an hour, thank you for letting us watch…this is seriously a great review.

Amazing video, thanks for all the testing.

One thing i'm noticing thanks to your vid is that SD Card read and write speed does matter because some videos i've watched slow down to a crawl on SD Cards.

nice video Alex, Ive made the comment on your twitter post, but I can definetly say after watching both SSD and SD card gameplay of the SteamDeck im going to aim and get one soon, even with the loading on the SD card im used to sonic 06 XD with its 15 sec load times every 10 sec

God, I've been WAITING for this video 🎉

It is playable on a microsd, who knew😏 Great work alex

Thanks for all the content, Alexx! 🤟😎

That's why Alex is like family, he's always delivering.

Honestly a great video. Truly did your due diligence. Great work as usual.

I was playing this from a slow sd card on my Rog Ally and it still worked. A little slow to load but it was perfectly playable.

This review literally clapped everyone's cheeks and he didn't even mention it once.

3:10 could it be asynchronous shader compilation? That would explain the CPU usage, because other threads are compiling those shaders

Great video thanks Alex

I do want to point out, I'm using the 970 Evo and found later in the story when you're running on the bugs with Rivet, there were a few of those dimensional jumps that hung up for about a second with the screen just black until it loaded. Not sure why that was somehow more taxing but it still wasn't bad at all.

I haven't played Ratchet & Clank since the PS2 days. The series got me back into gaming. I was hyped to find out that the game was coming to PC. It's good to know that the port is solid. Thanks for making the video.

I was in hype for this video, Master Shredder. Glory to the Foot Clan!

Love the PC Port Reviews

I really enjoyed this port review! I want more of you trying to break the game. Also, we all know that the fanboys will say, "The game studers because it doesn't have the ps5 ssd!"

Hi, can you comment on directstorage api translation to vulkan via proton? I cant find any info on it and it doesnt look like it exists in vulkan to actually translate. There is the nvidio rttx IO which is the closest i found but obviously thats bound to just nvidia cards and i cant tell if proton is using that to translate anything to vulkan on the linux side. Awesome vid btw thanks!

Alex claims he is a vegan but secretly sneaks bacon from the fridge at 3am when no one is looking.

In regards to raytracing on Proton, you might be able to get it working using the "VKD3D_CONFIG=dxr11 RADV_PERFTEST=rt %command%" launch parameters in the game properties on Steam, but from my time with the Spiderman games on three different PC setups and my Steam Deck, there's some stability and crashing issues with using these options. As for the loading times, I don't believe there's an equivalent to DirectStorage yet on Vulkan. NVIDIA's RTX-IO decompression stuff is essentially an extension to Vulkan that only works on NVIDIA right now (So similar to their other extensions to OpenGL), and work needs to be done on Vulkan itself for a platform agnostic version. So that, VKD3D (one of the components of Proton that converts DirectX 12 API calls to Vulkan equivalents) needing to convert DirectStorage calls, and some work that would need to be done to AMD/Intel's open source GPU drivers (Mesa) on Linux are probably the things that need to be done before that's possible, and that might not be counting any storage related contributions to the Linux kernel itself.

Great video, by the way. Huge fan, by the way. I was looking forward to this game coming out to PC, by the way. And as I said before, I love the homage you do to TB with this videos and it always makes a little sad but happy for his legacy lives on! By the way, have you noticed you say by the way a lot, by the way?

Where can I buy the special Sony SSD? I only have some junky ass 4TB Samsung SSD 870 EVO

Correct me if im wrong but im pretty sure the yellow portal jumps are all VRAM so storage doesnt matter

Excellent review brother

Proton doesnt support Direct Storage so it falls back to run off the CPU so thats all CPU doing the decompression.

Alex, I don't think the SD card is entirely at fault since the Steam Deck on with Linux doesn't have DirectStorage. Installing Windows 11 would be interesting to see

Thank you, I appreciate this thanks for the hard word.

Thanks Alex for your amazing PC Part Reviews. For the ponies is the PS 5 SSD some kind of magical Artifact. All the dumb claims of the ponies that this game can only run on the PS5 ssd aged like fine wine. We gone from "needs an ssd to run" to "is playable on an sd card" in one day. I prefer to have an hdd as an data grave. Having mods and other not so important stuff on it. So I dont waste space on my ssd.

What program do you use in the background? Love all the content by the way

Muh PS5 SSD THO ALEX

isnt this the first game with Nvidia IO support to speed up VRAM transfers for textures and the new RTX compression system.

thanks for the review Himbo slice lol. Does the pc port still have the lower res texture problem it did when DF did there review or did you look at it that close to notice?

For those trying to use the DF video as proof, you should listen carefully, DF was using a launch model 2.5 inch PS4 HDD, PS4 launched in 2013 and they never showed any health information of the HDD used on the PC.

"I don't know who would play inverted Y camera" me too, though keep in mind the first game had it default on! I tried to stick with it for a little bit... had to turn it off. Overall on my EVGA 1070 SC, i7 6700k and 32GB of memory on an NVMe SSD the game is very playable. Default low settings, rendered at 1080p on a 2560x1440p @144Hz display has frequently high frame rates. Would really like to see them add an auto-benchmark utility in game!

Maybe it’s just me, but I noticed on the 5400 rpm drive the portals moving towards you a little slower. It still looked fine but I thought there was a difference. However, after the boss fight, I think the 5400 rpm drive loaded some areas FASTER than the 7200 rpm. Again, it could just be me, but nixxies deserve a gold medal for their pc port! (Btdubs, this game still looks good on the steam deck even at low settings on your elgato.)

in case I missed it, what vram / system ram split do you have on your deck?

I have been loving it on my Steam Deck and the little I played on PC. The rifts definitely have a slight delay with the Deck, though I did not get to check them out on my PC.

I wonder how the ponies are going to cope now

It would be interesting to see with a hybrid drive,, one of the HDSD drives.

HDD 5400 held up like the chair Alex stands on.

8:45 Hugo Martin, he play Doom Eternal with inverted controller, he is a god damn good psychopath

the sd card speed in the steam deck is only 104mbps whilst hdd's are closer to 160mbps, there are seagate hdd's at 500mbps they should be fine running this with hardly any pausing.

I don't own a gaming PC, but your PC reviews of ported games are really good. You definitely know your stuff, Alex. I also notice one thing about the way Rift Apart ran during your tests, and it's more abundantly clear to me as a console owner: this game _should have_ been a PS4 release first and then ported to the PS5. Seeing gameplay of it made me question Sony's reasoning behind making it a PS5 exclusive when it could've easily have been on the PS4. This review definitely answered my question. Makes me wonder how many other lies have been told about the PS5 as well.

A test between the deck v the rog ally would be nice.

Settings were turned down for these tests but smooth if you turn everything down. Which is what we thought would have to happen.

I am going to date myself with this one....but how can you have a comprehensive test of old school drives without some 10,000 RPM WD Raptor drives..... I think I still have a pair around here somewhere. And what about SCSI? :P Ahhhh but I'm just giving you shit....but I have been PC gaming since 1996 so.... Great video as always.... though my wife prefers the live stream for some reason :S

I am having a ton of issues with this game. The loading is not seamless and I can't get past the pirate part I don't know what's going on.

is the hdd running an operating system and the game, or is it secondary storge and its just running the game

See if other studios would just focus on optimizations it would be fantastic for all of us gamers that's tight on money.

Big ups on the review Alex. Shout out to NIXXES on the port. 🥂

I'd be willing to bet that, on controller at least, that Y-axis is changed to invert more often than not.

My major hang up is broken RT on AMD cards (supposedly being worked on). I own an Nvidia card too, but most people have one PC, one graphics card. So that’s still shit. On the Steam Deck, I think your major lag on rifts with SD card was more due to inability to front load assets with direct storage, than the drive itself. Yeah, it’s still playable. Obviously a weakness in steam OS and possibly the APU than the SD card itself though.

I mean, honestly, if Insomniac just worked on those transition animations, the only difference would be that it would take a bit longer on a PS4 and PS4Pro, and they probably would have to reduce the texture quality substantially. But it honestly seems totally viable. Even in Unreal 5, if you do a super fast flyby high res nanite assets your harddrive is basically hovering around 40-80MB/s. Similar to what a 7200rpm can do. You would probably see more texture pop-in and some stutters. But deeming it impossible is far fetched.

Why does the pause screen shown at the beginning of this video look like it's from a PS2 game? Is that intentional?

Technically speaking kinda tho an ssd isn’t required to play R&C you can’t just install it on just any HDD it has to be a newer model or an ssd to load it the way the devs intended it to load also according to digital foundry who shared a clip of it running on a ps4 HDD it loads pretty poorly 😅

I hope you know texture filtering has little to no impact on performance. So why not run 16x?

Would a 7,200 rpm sata hdd have good load time?

Looks great

I played this game. Reallllly enjoyed it. But it does need a game play loop change and I’m 1000 percent sure nothing I experience can’t happen on the switch. 💀💀

I dont understand your complaints about the cpu usage , of course not all cores will be streaming assets in the background. Also u are always GPU bound all the time so of course the cpu wont be pegged. U also have extremally nice frame times

Looks really solid, honestly. It's crazy when you compare this to the state that The Last of Us came out in. I have hope for Ghosts of Tsushima if that is the next game that Sony brings to PC.

I actually enjoyed this on the Steam Deck.

Medium settings on deck can be locked 30 i think

As I saw pointed out in another video, when the Playstation guy was touting the speed of the SSD in Ratchet & Clank during that initial video, he really seemed to be comparing it to past consoles, not really saying it NEEDED the PS5 to be able to run, some people just took him out of context and ran with it.

Yea they probably lied about it. Tbh i guessing it loads most of the level so it can do those jumps even on a slow HDD. The big advantage of Directstorage will be texture decompression on GPU and not having too go trough the CPU for it.

Nice it supports 4:3 which should be great for my VGA CRT

Do you remember which steam deck SSD this was played on? 64GB, 256GB, or 512GB? My understanding is that the 64GB is the slowest and 512GB is the fastest. Thanks!

I think the steam deck isn’t making use of GPU decompression because DirectStorage is a Microsoft Windows only feature

Alex the problem is more so on slower configs that cant brute force it like u can here so the hdd will be more problematic there. Also the steam decks micro sd is kinda wack. Defo recommended downloading on internal storage fr others

The reason fov is in percent numbers is because the fov is dynamic in gameplay

So I do want to know if he only had the game installed on the hdd or if everything is running off the hdd(the os, recording software, anti virus, ect) But yeah sony's ssd stuff is bs lol

So the maximum 720p@30 was a lie. I already thought so.

Love the content Alex, you hard A$$ , I meant Quads. Check you mic EQ seems the proximity effect has you Really booming today, :(

If I was to theorize a guess for the longer loads Alex, I think the Steam Deck's CPU/GPU/RAM are the contributing factors towards the slower load times Also, I would dare you to install it to a SD card on a PC! 😜 UPDATE: I retract that original statement: looks like the SD card/SD card reader in the Steam Deck is a bottleneck then, and it looks like the SD card on PC would perform just as badly as it did here. Correct me if I am wrong

Insomniac didn't do anything wrong. It was Sony who was hyping up their SSD to be something nobody ever seen before. Except that PC gamers have been using SSDs for years 😅

for me it is relieving that a game can actually run at launch like they used to in 2000... Great Ps game for all the people. Beat it at ps5 now i will try it on pc!

So much for you have to play at the lowest setting when playing on a HDD. I see some small problems but the game is completely playable on a HDD.

What SD card were you using?