Raw | Latah County Coroner says all four students killed near University of Idaho were victims

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Жыл бұрын

Latah County Coroner Cathy Mabbutt told KREM 2 that all four students killed in a home near the University of Idaho are homicide victims. She does not believe it was a murder-suicide.
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@pauldevore2900
@pauldevore2900 Жыл бұрын
God bless the medical examiners and the others that hold similar roles like this awesome woman. I appreciate what all of you do. Thank you and your families so much. You are all heroes to me.
@chelly2468
@chelly2468 Жыл бұрын
♥️🙌🏼
@allison5530
@allison5530 Жыл бұрын
I'm afraid to watch this, how horrific 😢 this poor lady has such awesome strength, I can't even imagine but I'm watching it 😢 seriously 😢 💔
@tommydaniels4299
@tommydaniels4299 Жыл бұрын
She seems traumatized she's shaking to the core she doesn't know what to say she just seems a little baffled is this a real medical examiner because she probably hasn't done a murder in 10 years she's in over her head she did clarify that they didn't kill each other SMH
@MontgomeryMall
@MontgomeryMall Жыл бұрын
@@tommydaniels4299 She is not a medical examiner (who does the actual autopsy and draws conclusions from their findings). Rather she is the coroner, an elected position that is mainly administrative in nature. She may transport bodies to the medical examiner but she does not conduct the autopsy.
@pamelabrown9484
@pamelabrown9484 Жыл бұрын
This coroner is not qualified, she is a regular md, with addtl degrees in political science and the law...
@birgitraya4909
@birgitraya4909 Жыл бұрын
The male victim was a triplet. I watched the interview with his parents. So sad.
@dl1662
@dl1662 Жыл бұрын
even the coroner acted shaken by this...must of been a real mess. RIP
@BLane-xr1ic
@BLane-xr1ic 5 ай бұрын
I'd be shaken too if I was working for a corrupt State and didn't have any medical training and was not only a Cororner but an Attorney for violent Criminals. Not one medically trained person has seen the bodies and this state is corrupt.
@JeffSherlock
@JeffSherlock 2 ай бұрын
The coroner is an elected politician who works in an office. Someone else is the pathologist who examined th crime scene and performed the autopsies.
@susanjefferson9560
@susanjefferson9560 Жыл бұрын
This is so horrible! Pray for the families
@acgillespie
@acgillespie Жыл бұрын
*I'm beginning to believe we might have some very scary people living among us*
@BladeObssession
@BladeObssession Жыл бұрын
Yes very sad and tragic. Hope they catch the person responsible and justice served
@scorch4299
@scorch4299 Жыл бұрын
This looks like the type of case where there isnt gonna be anymore info for at least a month.
@gerardepstein
@gerardepstein Жыл бұрын
I am levitating....I am one with the earth
@harrykrebs
@harrykrebs Жыл бұрын
Thank goodness SOMEONE is answering questions!
@teejames5098
@teejames5098 Жыл бұрын
what have you learnt from this?
@songbirds3712
@songbirds3712 Жыл бұрын
??
@ronswanson5629
@ronswanson5629 Жыл бұрын
Why do you think you are entitled to this info immediately? Are you part of the investigation process or family of the victims? Or do you just want to know for your OWN curiosity and if you had that info what would you do with it other than go about your life. Also if they hastily put out info for YOUR satisfaction and something changes, which they often do as more info is learned, will you then assume they are covering something up? Yes, you would because that's what people like you do.
@acgillespie
@acgillespie Жыл бұрын
@@ronswanson5629 .Why are you such an angry young man?
@ronswanson5629
@ronswanson5629 Жыл бұрын
@@acgillespie I simply made a statement and that makes me angry? If you took it personal maybe you are one of the people i was speaking about.
@MaryMary-iw7wh
@MaryMary-iw7wh Жыл бұрын
The trauma that LE and Medical personnel have seen must cause PTSD. May these young people get justice.
@designstudio8013
@designstudio8013 Жыл бұрын
didn't for me
@TheVAULTofHORROR
@TheVAULTofHORROR Жыл бұрын
Imagine how the survivors feel personally knowing them
@ml.9417
@ml.9417 Жыл бұрын
You should look up what ptsd is
@KA-hi4eh
@KA-hi4eh Жыл бұрын
@@designstudio8013 same here.
@michaelholbart2332
@michaelholbart2332 Жыл бұрын
At least they aren’t fucking dead. Brutal homicide < bad dreams
@Moni-bg7ok
@Moni-bg7ok Жыл бұрын
I love how news reporters pretty much try to pry "most gruesome" "horrifying" out of her but she wasn't giving in.
@sherryblatt4459
@sherryblatt4459 Жыл бұрын
As a parent you would feel less anxious knowing your daughter is rooming with three other girls and not living alone!😓This is horrible!! 🙏💔💔💔💔
@Emy53
@Emy53 Жыл бұрын
When my daughter moved to attend college immediately after high school, I was concerned. I was visiting her almost every weekend. I would drive two hours there and two hours back home, or spend the night at a hotel with her.
@shawnconcepcion2338
@shawnconcepcion2338 Жыл бұрын
They still ain't safe
@shawnconcepcion2338
@shawnconcepcion2338 Жыл бұрын
They still ain't safe
@sarahj30
@sarahj30 Жыл бұрын
It was 4 other girls actually.
@ArkOmen1
@ArkOmen1 Жыл бұрын
My question is... Why no screams heard?
@lastingbeauty7416
@lastingbeauty7416 Жыл бұрын
How is it that the public is not in danger? Have they caught the person responsible for this?
@cannabiskellystover9984
@cannabiskellystover9984 Жыл бұрын
That's what i keeping asking.. I can't believe they would not want the other students to take precautions to all areas until the person who done this is found.
@ent1311
@ent1311 Жыл бұрын
@@cannabiskellystover9984 money motivates every action
@lilyj8420
@lilyj8420 Жыл бұрын
Maybe they've found someone who committed suicide that claimed responsibility for it. That's the only thing that makes sense to me
@tonkatroll9769
@tonkatroll9769 Жыл бұрын
Crime of passion.
@lastingbeauty7416
@lastingbeauty7416 Жыл бұрын
@@tonkatroll9769 maybe? But did they catch the guy/girl? Or are they still on the loose? Should the public be aware?
@breewillsnails3677
@breewillsnails3677 Жыл бұрын
I hope they catch who did this..cause this is extremely sad and very disturbing..how did they manage to murder 4 people and not get caught...or seen... unbelievable!!!!!!!! Someone knows something.
@Youtubeisrunbypedos
@Youtubeisrunbypedos Жыл бұрын
Keep going killer!!! Weeeeeeeee
@vaniaramalho1869
@vaniaramalho1869 Жыл бұрын
@@KZfaqisrunbypedoswell let’s hope he get’s to you … We normal people thank him and then put him also to death! An eye for an eye
@gregorylibra5114
@gregorylibra5114 Жыл бұрын
There had to be noise, two people on 2nd floor fighting for their life and one land in the hallway.
@awright119021
@awright119021 Жыл бұрын
Someone always knows something and someone always talks eventually.
@darrellsomers5427
@darrellsomers5427 Жыл бұрын
They did catch him do you have an education DNA doesn't lie
@songbirds3712
@songbirds3712 Жыл бұрын
May their souls and the souls of all the faithful departed through the mercy of God Rest In Peace. Amen. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻💔💔💔💔
@violetdaze7007
@violetdaze7007 Жыл бұрын
🙏Amen🙏💔😢
@heatherandprettysgreytadve6199
@heatherandprettysgreytadve6199 Жыл бұрын
I am so confused how they keep saying public is not at risk but yet 4 homicides hiw does that make sense shame on them for not being more clear
@mandycote5662
@mandycote5662 Жыл бұрын
It’s not about being clear It’s about being woke not awake to this cRaZiEnEsS
@dangannon9970
@dangannon9970 Жыл бұрын
Why are you asking so many questions?
@anona2017
@anona2017 Жыл бұрын
@@exitscreaming4637 they keep saying over and over that there is no threat, no danger etc. It's pretty upsetting because it makes no sense
@wednesdayyy1009
@wednesdayyy1009 Жыл бұрын
They typically do this so that the person responsible thinks that there is no evidence against them. In the meantime I imagine it is such a tough investigation with 4 victims. They have to comb through 4 separate lives to get to the bottom of this.
@beverleecarrell510
@beverleecarrell510 Жыл бұрын
Gaslighting the community...It never works..
@ubhiddeninthetrees
@ubhiddeninthetrees 6 ай бұрын
So you, Cathy Mabbutt, a 16 year coroner veteran are clueless as to why a coroner is called to a crime scene as soon as police are on scene? Why bother calling you at all until they are done with their investigation after 5:30? You were to show up and take possession of the bodies. 16 years and you don't know that? You are responsible for keeping the bodies out of the way of investigators.You alone are delegated the task of ensuring the bodies remain intact, uncompromised and uncontaminated. Officer Payne, in his second but not last attempt to explain the presence of the tan leather knife sheath said that time, he discovered it under Maddie. So he is either placing it there or doing who knows what way close to a body and where are you? What time were their deaths? You think you could have gotten a better Idea at 12-1 o'clock than another 5 or 6 hours later? For a bunch of people who think they are hidden from the rest of the world by a bunch of trees you seem to be under the impression you can outsmart everybody as long as you have mainstream journalist hacks as pool boys. I've never known anyone who agreed to pay Later to indulge in self-serving practices while they watch the lives of others around them be destroyed due to their actions left unscathed by Later.. Are you thinking Later will forget about you and not collect on your promise to pay? Later never forgets. So I suggest you bask in the luxury of your plunder while you can. Oh yeah, IMO.
@terralynndockins4748
@terralynndockins4748 8 ай бұрын
mc butt whre are the evidence photos you took ???? WHERE ARE THEY ???
@sweetcaroline4667
@sweetcaroline4667 Жыл бұрын
Prayers for these victims and family's.
@kimmyk1
@kimmyk1 Жыл бұрын
So sorry for the families
@Snjones777
@Snjones777 Жыл бұрын
May the Good Lord Bless all 4 of these souls……
@mandycote5662
@mandycote5662 Жыл бұрын
It’s too late now
@violetdaze7007
@violetdaze7007 Жыл бұрын
@@mandycote5662 why would you say something so hurtful & sad & actually, just say an unnecessarily ugly thing to say at all? And, no obviously I couldn't hear you but, you said that like such a smart-aleck😕 And no, it's not too late btw. God can do whatever, whenever, he chooses to. Can't be to late, to early, it's just whatever it is. He made “late”, so he can make it be whenever and whatever because hes God. And may he bless and keep safe, you and yours✌️❤🙏😇
@lizgander9172
@lizgander9172 Жыл бұрын
Is it typical for a medical examiner or coroner to go on tv a day or two after a mass murder and talk about details of the scene/bodies?!?
@goldfinger1970
@goldfinger1970 Жыл бұрын
It’s disturbing how these rookies are fishing for gruesome details. It’s so unprofessional and creepy.
@KeroppiLover82
@KeroppiLover82 Жыл бұрын
The interviewer sounds like a middle school student.. her set of questions are so off, awkward and unintelligent.
@nighthawktt
@nighthawktt Жыл бұрын
@@KeroppiLover82 agree
@mrs.hatfield1451
@mrs.hatfield1451 Жыл бұрын
We're a small community here. It ain't LA or someplace where this happens. 8 years since the last major murders. We are not fully equipped.
@Zzx75
@Zzx75 Жыл бұрын
The interviewers should have had intelligent questions. This was an important interview that was wasted. There were so many questions that should have been asked.
@MissOrchid12
@MissOrchid12 Жыл бұрын
@@mrs.hatfield1451 As someone who is from the area, what is your opinion about the suspect or whole situation??
@cheryltuttle5303
@cheryltuttle5303 11 ай бұрын
Cathy mabutt is the coronor how is it even remotely possible that a person whos a coronor with 16 years at least experience does not know and isnt aware of the time of death in this case seems extremely suspicious to me
@MrW582
@MrW582 7 ай бұрын
I totally agree 100% It is one of the first questions to be answered- How long has the victim been deceased for, what time was the crime taking place. The identification of the victim for investigation and next of kin and What is the most likely cause of death and type of weapon involved. Its all basic stuff really, unless shes being vague on purpose so not to answer questions the police want to remain quiet 🤫
@MrW582
@MrW582 7 ай бұрын
@@Soulwarrior7 it's precisely her job to to find that out, she's the one who gives the cause and details of the death and makes it official. She instructs the investigation into the cause and mechanism of death, by gathering all the information from the pathologist and police investigation to give the final death certificate
@Redandranger
@Redandranger 7 ай бұрын
@@MrW582 "A Medical Examiner is a forensic pathologist (a medical doctor with subspeciality training) with particular expertise in investigating violent, sudden and unexpected, suspicious or unattended deaths. A Coroner is an elected or appointed public officer whose chief duty is to certify the cause of death." Stop watching Law and Order.
@MrW582
@MrW582 7 ай бұрын
@@Redandranger I know that because I just pretty much that in my last comment, a coroner wouldn't be able to complete a death certificate without investigating all the facts presented to them and if they need more information or not happy with what they find they can request further investigations, second opinion on the pathology report ect they can't just sign someone death off without knowing all the facts it's the same here in the uk only we don't elect the coroner they are just employed by the home office Anyway I think we both are on the same page here, I probably just didn't explain it very well 😲WWWHAT....how very dare you! I cant stand watching any of that garbage, lol sorry to have disappointed you there 👍🏼😂
@gingerpeoples8970
@gingerpeoples8970 3 ай бұрын
She's lying
@shmoopiebear
@shmoopiebear Жыл бұрын
They're dead. The most important thing is catching the killer now. Fight now. Cry later.
@cherrybarron8816
@cherrybarron8816 Жыл бұрын
So sad for all involved. We have to be aware of who we call friends and ask about the people they're hanging with.
@anovino1992
@anovino1992 Жыл бұрын
I tell my child that very same thing, trust NO one. Even at school, your roommate can be a serial killer.
@anovino1992
@anovino1992 Жыл бұрын
@@sylettemonroe7431 Sounds like you have experience in such thing.
@TexasRose50
@TexasRose50 Жыл бұрын
@ Ano Vino, have you ever watched any crime shows? Years ago, there was a story(true)about a woman who solved her own daughters murder by watching such crime shows, and learning their(police and fbi)tactics. A person can learn a lot by doing so.
@anovino1992
@anovino1992 Жыл бұрын
@@TexasRose50 I think so, 🙂👍
@sallyirwin7058
@sallyirwin7058 Жыл бұрын
Best thing I have seen posted on here
@deathbycake7637
@deathbycake7637 Жыл бұрын
Why are the reporters badgering this lady they know damn well she isn't allowed to divulge any information. Anyway, I've never been to Idaho but lived in the state below it hopefully one day... May these 4 young people rip and condolences to their family & friends
@femmebrulee5053
@femmebrulee5053 Жыл бұрын
Another official said the students were killed around 3 or 4 a.m. in the morning but their bodies were not discovered until much later that day. Someone might've tried to call them and they didn't answer or maybe someone was supposed to be at work or an appointment and didn't show up. Also, they said they died by a sharp, serrated edge implement, so they were stabbed/cut.
@acgillespie
@acgillespie Жыл бұрын
*Nothing good ever happens at 3am - never*
@maritascoonbee8285
@maritascoonbee8285 Жыл бұрын
@@acgillespie except prayer to Jesus Christ. I often get woken up at 03h00 in the morning and I know it's the Lord urging me to talk to Him.
@hsojsmith3991
@hsojsmith3991 Жыл бұрын
3:00 a.m. the holy Trinity.
@prestonpreston9108
@prestonpreston9108 Жыл бұрын
@@maritascoonbee8285 You seen your shrink lately?
@Notapplicable935
@Notapplicable935 Жыл бұрын
Chainsaw?
@sharonklauser1817
@sharonklauser1817 Жыл бұрын
I'm so sad about this.
@gwendolynjo71
@gwendolynjo71 Жыл бұрын
She's a most unprofessional coroner/ attorney on the side
@mandiemyers4423
@mandiemyers4423 Жыл бұрын
So very sad and I hope they get justice soon
@lindaoliver9981
@lindaoliver9981 Жыл бұрын
God bless you... 🙏 It can't be easy...
@kentuckygirl3326
@kentuckygirl3326 7 ай бұрын
SHE IS NOT BEING 💯HONEST! IMO
@misstuxbrandi
@misstuxbrandi Жыл бұрын
I would imagine this was done in their sleep. I just can't wrap my mind around how one didn't survive or a 911 call wasn't made unless the victims were sleeping. I hope they never even realized what was happening before they passed.
@charmainelook7579
@charmainelook7579 Жыл бұрын
Sleep or more people involved. Alot we don't know. An unconscious person then four dead and two uninjured ? Gruesome it said. An object of sharpness . Scary. It does sound like drugs were used not sure. The whole story is strange. What the hell? Not much detail .
@st.francisanddr.pepper1304
@st.francisanddr.pepper1304 Жыл бұрын
I can't imagine a sleeping person wouldn't realize what was happening after being stabbed, slashed or had their throat slit. I mean, they die from blood loss... very scary stuff.
@On_youtube1235
@On_youtube1235 Жыл бұрын
Not to just kill, but to slaughter, 4 people without making enough noise that neighbors hear or a 911 call is made from a cell? Seems so odd. I almost feel they were drugged or something.
@terraleanna4637
@terraleanna4637 Жыл бұрын
@@st.francisanddr.pepper1304 it said they woke up and tried to fight off the attacker/attackers 💔😢
@jeaniechampagne8831
@jeaniechampagne8831 Жыл бұрын
If they were stabbed in the head repeatedly they wouldn't know what was happening tp them.
@tereseday4060
@tereseday4060 Жыл бұрын
She's not an MD. She's also a Defense Attorney. Conflict of interest much?
@debbiterwedo2744
@debbiterwedo2744 Жыл бұрын
Praying for their families
@meaganbonin1574
@meaganbonin1574 Жыл бұрын
My prayers are with the families, friends, and the community. Also God bless the ME and the police for having to see that. I'm sure it wasn't easy.
@nanettealegado6190
@nanettealegado6190 Жыл бұрын
I can’t understand why this coroner is talking to the media. There should only be one stream of public communication. This is jeopardising the investigation.
@maryelizabeth8058
@maryelizabeth8058 Жыл бұрын
💙my heart goes out to these young college students 💜I pray for them and their families💙 something is not adding up ....👁👁 this is serious FOUR homicides and the public is not in danger???? seriously??? they're holding something back ... how did they die? who is the murderer ?is the murderer running around Idaho ? this investigation stinks this is simply bonkers😱
@maryh6953
@maryh6953 Жыл бұрын
They died by knife
@cristinalumio6017
@cristinalumio6017 Жыл бұрын
Where they killed by only1 person or a group
@danwesley5826
@danwesley5826 Жыл бұрын
WOW....Some hope here smart people are still with us. Thanks.
@zss.1589
@zss.1589 Жыл бұрын
It was probably someone in the group
@elinatuulikki
@elinatuulikki Жыл бұрын
@@zss.1589 Didn't this coroner say it wasn't a murder-suicide, but four murders
@dianabeurman364
@dianabeurman364 Жыл бұрын
THIS IS A STRANGE ONE FOR SURE!
@angeldip5797
@angeldip5797 Жыл бұрын
Something is off about this woman. She doesn’t believe what she’s saying. 🤷🏼‍♀️
@LS-ny8mr
@LS-ny8mr 11 ай бұрын
Like she has been told not to say anything
@Yunolein
@Yunolein 2 ай бұрын
​@@LS-ny8mruhhh ya that's normal in a murder case where no suspect was jailed
@shuksanarm
@shuksanarm Жыл бұрын
Officials are acting shady as hell about this.
@annieoops6243
@annieoops6243 Жыл бұрын
Damm straight..the fact there was someone there who survived but didn't call 911 until way later. The fact they say there is no threat..its just nuts
@annieoops6243
@annieoops6243 Жыл бұрын
@Alex Korova no doubt! I've dealt with this exact thing. We didn't get answers for ten years. Its horrible.
@ingridugarteche4301
@ingridugarteche4301 Жыл бұрын
Medical examiners are people fascinated in a weird morbid way to experience crimes like this! This lady has so much to say but it’s holding on so much because is an open investigation!! Look at her body language! Speaks more than her voice….?jmo
@sharonklauser1817
@sharonklauser1817 Жыл бұрын
My heart is with their friends and family
@HokieJuju
@HokieJuju Жыл бұрын
How in the world are 4 people stabbed to death in one house & 2 other people didn’t hear it happen &/or didn’t report it until hours later?? LE said the other 2 roommates weren’t in a hostage situation so they weren’t tied up & muzzled. So how did they not hear & report?? I lived in a house with 3-4 other roommates in college & there’s absolutely NO way possible (even if I was passed out drunk) that I wouldn’t have heard & known someone, much less 4 people, were brutally stabbed to death in the house!!! This is insane!!!
@pondwaterwriter1625
@pondwaterwriter1625 Жыл бұрын
On Reddit Gen z goes crazy on you if you question sleeping in till noon part or any facts or inconsistencies regarding the roommates….. and say how normal it is and how they do it and they start projecting. It’s honestly so weird the way they are defending and in the manner that they are
@katekrieger4646
@katekrieger4646 Жыл бұрын
Surviving roommates could have drugged them all with roofies so they were confident they could kill them one by one without much trouble from the others. Has anyone asked if autopsies sought evidence of drugs in their system?
@agnesdroddy8390
@agnesdroddy8390 Жыл бұрын
WHEN, THE Truth Comes Out!!! AND, You're absolutely RIGHT!!! That Would Sober up Even A drunk Person!!
@sylviaponce1864
@sylviaponce1864 Жыл бұрын
EXACTLY DONT MAKE SENSE WHO KNOWS MAYBE THERE IN ON IT
@MariaNunes-po5rc
@MariaNunes-po5rc Жыл бұрын
I think the same Way. How come if someone is struggling to save life, and nobody knows, at least One scream, any tipe of noise , specially at those silent hours , any noise is a big noise.... They are looking for just one suspect..... But probably there is other people involved... I pray for families on both sides. Nobody can bring the deceived back to life. As for me the survivers are the ones who are suffering, the deceived,they don't feel anything anymore..... My prayers for families and friends.
@trustinjustice3526
@trustinjustice3526 Жыл бұрын
So sad. 💜
@Redlioness-gp9ci
@Redlioness-gp9ci Жыл бұрын
I'm trying to get my head around this case as I'm imagining the scenarios around 4 sleeping individuals being stabbed to death. If one girl was stabbed and she was presumably as suggested a fighter and was shown to have had the bruisings that she did show signs of a struggle on fighting back wouldn't that have woken the others up from their sleep? If there was only one perpetrator than the others would have scrambled from the commotions of the other/others. Was there more than one perpetrator or was it made possible for this one attacker because the young individuals(victims) were drugged prior to their demise and had no way of reacting upon their automated instincts in a fight/flight response kicking in during the process of attack? How far apart asleep were they from the others. Two that weren't attacked means that they weren't the targets or maybe through luck, their bedroom door were locked at that time and as they didn't witness anything they didn't pose a threat meaning the 4 were the targets . Maybe one was the intended target and the 3 others were killed either because they were potential witnesses or there was a secret grudge on these students from an on line follower/stalker or by someone they knew. Being slained in this way is just pure evil . Society itself has a sickness that roams within its realms, hope the person/person's are called caught . Condolences to the families and friends 🕯️🕯️🕯️🕯️
@gemmaselby5584
@gemmaselby5584 Жыл бұрын
Good Detective Work. 🔎⚖🇳🇿
@Shadidi2
@Shadidi2 Жыл бұрын
Lots of questions. Four victims and nobody got one scream out according to the living roommate who could hear conversations in another room, from under a Covid mask, but no scream? Mind-boggling.
@IcedKatana
@IcedKatana 10 ай бұрын
This is horrendous quality for a 'news' group..
@kaya439
@kaya439 Жыл бұрын
heartbreaking x
@shawnkincheloesr5192
@shawnkincheloesr5192 Жыл бұрын
This is oh so sad 🙏🏾😞 💔
@ev500sam
@ev500sam Жыл бұрын
Wow I sure hope they get the perpetrator (s) off the street fast! MY prayers and condolences definitely go out to the victims and their families! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🥺
@maryh6953
@maryh6953 Жыл бұрын
How horrendous for someone to find these kids
@awakenedsoul4924
@awakenedsoul4924 Жыл бұрын
I am thankful for this Coroner speaking out here and with other media. Even if what she says is hard to hear. Glad to see her honesty and giving details of the autopsy. People need to know this reality.
@KA-hi4eh
@KA-hi4eh Жыл бұрын
She was not giving information on the autopsy. The ME does the autopsy and I believe that it wasn't completed and submitted at the time Cathy gave her interview.
@jlorde8838
@jlorde8838 Жыл бұрын
​@@KA-hi4ehit was done the next day she was a witness.
@patricias5122
@patricias5122 10 ай бұрын
She seems unprofessional to me. She's not a doctor. Idaho doesn't require coroners to be medical professionals.
@Redandranger
@Redandranger 7 ай бұрын
@@patricias5122 Unprofessional? She was an RN for decades and is now a defense attorney and the coroner. Yeah --- she's just some yokel off the street.
@maryh6953
@maryh6953 Жыл бұрын
My heart just breaks for these families I’ll never understand this sort of stuff how does one person kill four people with a knife I don’t get it they all took a photo together hours before and they all seemed happy and normal I can’t wrap my head around this I have a son in college and you have to be so careful who you hang around with please someone help me understand this
@Rugtalk1
@Rugtalk1 Жыл бұрын
Because it’s her job…. If someone can’t manage their emotions during a job like this they shouldn’t be in that field. Same goes for police, EMTs, firefighters. It’s called professionalism. And even though you don’t see her have emotions you don’t know what negative impact this could have on her. Have some respect.
@maryh6953
@maryh6953 Жыл бұрын
@@Rugtalk1 no need for the lecture people can be professional And still communicate compassion and empathy.
@mbmochinski
@mbmochinski Жыл бұрын
Actually Mary H was talking about the students being happy not the coroner. Mary H is saying she can. not understanding how the killing could take place not specifically but in an abstract way.
@Rugtalk1
@Rugtalk1 Жыл бұрын
You edited your whole comment LOL
@cindyjohns6222
@cindyjohns6222 Жыл бұрын
@@maryh6953 If ppl would just read comments or actually listen to the vidoes. They wouldn't have to have other ppl explain as if their explaining to a 5 yr old.. Sometimes it blows my mind, how quickly ppl can just jump on another person all half cocked.. Thank you for being kind. 🕊. Yes, " to the edit police " 😂 I edited this comment.. My thumbs are too big.. Just like sometimes, I've got a big mouth.. 😂
@MegaTriumph1
@MegaTriumph1 Жыл бұрын
If it was a stabbing it would take a very angry person do such a crime.
@AyayronBalakay
@AyayronBalakay Жыл бұрын
1:53 she didnt really want to say stabbing.. it was worse that that
@pepperprovasnik
@pepperprovasnik Жыл бұрын
Words aren't matching up with her body language.
@butz1893
@butz1893 Жыл бұрын
My Granddaughter is in Colorado going to college. I hope they get this person very soon.
@dylonjackson8863
@dylonjackson8863 Жыл бұрын
Why is this sh*t so quiet?
@mistrjt9213
@mistrjt9213 Жыл бұрын
“It was very bloody.” - said the coroner “They must be unconscious” - said at least one person at the crime scene
@Prof_K7
@Prof_K7 Жыл бұрын
I don’t know what it is but this woman is giving nervous alcoholic. I am not confident in her ability and I don’t think she is either.
@CuriousRose
@CuriousRose Ай бұрын
I’m a Trauma RN…this is a super unprofessional coroner/RN/lawyer. Scary
@JDubb31
@JDubb31 5 ай бұрын
A year later and we are still looking for answers and clues.And after a year later i still have no idea who did this Crime.Its crazy stuff in this case
@kendallevans4079
@kendallevans4079 Жыл бұрын
How do you control a situation of 4 adults while you stab each to death one by one? Maybe multiple attackers?
@seizuregirlllll
@seizuregirlllll Жыл бұрын
I thought that but if that’s the case wouldn’t different knives be used which would mean they will recognize that unless each killer used the same knife.
@kendallevans4079
@kendallevans4079 Жыл бұрын
@@seizuregirlllll Hmm...good point. Guess time will tell. Just seems like the first sign of violence and everyone who run like crazy.
@seizuregirlllll
@seizuregirlllll Жыл бұрын
@@kendallevans4079 for sure they could have been sleeping, we will find out I vote send in a medium! I am sort of one not too gifted, but I have been places and felt spirits or a spirit and told the people living room and then they would tell me about someone who died there, I’ve also seen a ghost a couple times and a dark figure like black and can just feel somethings not right. It’s overwhelming
@sunnydelight5255
@sunnydelight5255 Жыл бұрын
@@seizuregirlllll Wow interesting. Can I get in contact with you?
@shh5627
@shh5627 Жыл бұрын
The 4 adults were asleep when killed and all four of them did not sleep in the same bedroom. We do know the guy was sleeping over with his girlfriend and for all we know the 2 other girls slept in different rooms. If stabbed while asleep there would be no time to react and, even if there was another person in the room, by the time they knew what was happening they were stabbed.
@liveindallastexas5826
@liveindallastexas5826 Жыл бұрын
Breaking news apparently one of the ladies was text messaging somebody by the name of jack and that would have been the two ladies that were at the food cart and one of the sisters have come forward and said that her sister was text messaging this guy by the name of jack several times well that guy at the food cart he gives me the creeps
@moosky7344
@moosky7344 Жыл бұрын
Jack was the name of their neighbour hanging around the girls at the take away stand, who look rejected. Jack is also the name of 2 of the girls boyfriends, so 3 Jack's making things confusing.
@jeaniechampagne8831
@jeaniechampagne8831 Жыл бұрын
Bless you Lady. Must be awful.
@aleciaphinney9216
@aleciaphinney9216 Жыл бұрын
Very sad 🙏🙏
@travelfoodielove
@travelfoodielove Жыл бұрын
Why would she say they were all sleeping and didn’t suffer when clearly they did?!
@kimlarso
@kimlarso 7 ай бұрын
She’s not a medical examiner just someone that could me or you hired in the position of coroner 👉she should never had done this interview & muddied the waters of this case stating a sharp object was found
@deidrebrown8986
@deidrebrown8986 Жыл бұрын
Geez if your gonna do a news briefing;,.. Do It.
@brownwolf152
@brownwolf152 Жыл бұрын
One person couldn't have done all four without screaming and trying to get away from the one culprit.
@rachelxtc
@rachelxtc Жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly! I think there was more than one killer.
@Snjones777
@Snjones777 Жыл бұрын
@@rachelxtc I agree
@scottwright388
@scottwright388 Жыл бұрын
They could have been murdered while sleeping. She wouldn't comment on the proximity of the victims.
@rachelxtc
@rachelxtc Жыл бұрын
@@scottwright388 That's true. Not enough details out yet
@terribryant9996
@terribryant9996 Жыл бұрын
The Groening family was all murdered by one person. Unfortunately it could be true.
@jlkitz1775
@jlkitz1775 Жыл бұрын
How was ONE person able to overtake & kill four young, healthy students? 😕
@June-tb4vi
@June-tb4vi Жыл бұрын
Supposedly they were all sleeping two people on each floor..
@June-tb4vi
@June-tb4vi Жыл бұрын
Supposedly they were all sleeping two people on each floor..
@margaretperez2647
@margaretperez2647 Жыл бұрын
How is it the public is not in danger 🤔 😳 it's a very small place and they haven't caught anyone!so scary 😳
@teenmomAT14toRN
@teenmomAT14toRN Жыл бұрын
I was thinking murder suicide first but then I thought maybe they know the perp and have them. At least I hope the perp is not running around town.
@margaretperez2647
@margaretperez2647 Жыл бұрын
@@teenmomAT14toRN maybe 🤔 it's just so 😖 I have a 21 year old son and it just breaks my heart that two of them were that age
@teenmomAT14toRN
@teenmomAT14toRN Жыл бұрын
@@margaretperez2647 I know I have 20 girl, 23 boy, 29 girl, 10 girl
@designstudio8013
@designstudio8013 Жыл бұрын
If they said that then there must be a strong suspicion of a personal reason for this murder and not random
@elishabacon2299
@elishabacon2299 Жыл бұрын
They may be saying this because they have information to base this on, but dont want to state it to mess up the investigation
@janethuegerich6579
@janethuegerich6579 Жыл бұрын
This woman is so unqualified for this job. A nurse turned attorney. She has no clue what she is doing. This case has so many holes in it.
@jlorde8838
@jlorde8838 Жыл бұрын
She just got elected for four more years after sixteen years what's makes her unqualified?
@philfarmintino11
@philfarmintino11 Жыл бұрын
jesus christ pray for these kids ❤️❤️
@ed7519
@ed7519 Жыл бұрын
OMG 😭
@meloniesommers4073
@meloniesommers4073 Жыл бұрын
If so much blood then why isn’t there a trail outside in the white snow??? Or was it an inside job??
@Louise-gg4mf
@Louise-gg4mf Жыл бұрын
She’s a nurse not a doctor!!!
@hollywoodjaded
@hollywoodjaded Жыл бұрын
She's been a lawyer for well over 2 decades; she hasn't been an RN for quite some time. She is an elected official with political aspirations. The ME is the scientist/physician who performs all medical procedures.
@Spook2431NYC
@Spook2431NYC Жыл бұрын
Honest question here, if trying to determine as close as possible the time of death, why would coroner wait over 4hrs1/ 2hrs 2 visit scene 2 view bodies?
@Spook2431NYC
@Spook2431NYC Жыл бұрын
Sorry actually 5 1/2 hr wait..
@jlorde8838
@jlorde8838 Жыл бұрын
@@Spook2431NYC they probably did the liver temp at the scene.
@kimlarso
@kimlarso 7 ай бұрын
She’s not a Medical Examiner and so, this alone is in BK’s favor bc the Coroner stated they contract w Spokane so Spokane is the entity to answer TOD👉This town didn’t have the professionals this case demanded & bc of that👉THIS is the very reason behind all the bs we’re enduring to get to the truth👉Coroners Freudian slip of “I didn’t go there” to quickly circling back around “until later”….and her body language to me makes me feel as if she has no idea what she’s talking about bc she was never there (again, she’s not a Medical Examiner) & what seals that speculation for me is she states: “a sharp object was found??!” Now, I’d like to know where she heard that bc it wasn’t ever said in a Leo press conference 👉In fact, it don’t make any sense/since why she was even interviewed bc she had nothing to offer as would a Medical Examiner & just by stating “found a sharp object” muddies the waters for me?!!….
@nik1128
@nik1128 Жыл бұрын
Why even interview these ppl? They never know anything and never provide any new information....
@debbieescobar6267
@debbieescobar6267 Жыл бұрын
This interview is inappropriate and could jeopardize the case if there will be one. This information should be released to the public by the police dept, not the coroner. She should have not agreed to this.
@JustinH77
@JustinH77 Жыл бұрын
I know. The police aren't saying anything on purpose, this moron agrees to an interview with some random news woman. This is completely unprofessional
@BlackAssGirl1
@BlackAssGirl1 Жыл бұрын
I agree. We the public always want to know everything there is to know about a case. Not realizing how detrimental it can be to a case! But to say the public has no worries and it wasn’t a Mr/Sd. Those two just don’t merry well!
@shawnmann9491
@shawnmann9491 Жыл бұрын
Yes. This is sketchy at best, and unprofessional of the media and coroner.
@bwlib8927
@bwlib8927 Жыл бұрын
yup. I was surprised this was done
@anneharrington7951
@anneharrington7951 Жыл бұрын
I could not agree more. She is shocking unprofessional. Just because she is asked a question, she does not have to answer. She has no control over the interview. Something is wrong with this individual for blabbing in this tragedy.
@CrimeOfTheTrueKind
@CrimeOfTheTrueKind 5 ай бұрын
Such an awkward interview
@raxstinejrogers515
@raxstinejrogers515 Жыл бұрын
SO BASICALLY SHE KNOWS ZERO EVEN THOUGH SHE EXAMINED THE BODIES...WELL...WE KNOW WHAT WE ARE DEALING WITH AT LEAST AS FAR AS KNOWLEDGE GOES..." NOT GOOD"
@ylin17
@ylin17 Жыл бұрын
That coroner knew so much she wasn't allowed to say
@Jeff_H_the_Guitarist
@Jeff_H_the_Guitarist 10 ай бұрын
Does anyone know if it was the cororner that described one of the victims being nearly decapitated? Or was that from some other source?
@erinshaw6266
@erinshaw6266 Жыл бұрын
How the hell did someone stab 4 grown people alone, even if it did happen in the middle of the night? Had to be more than one attacker, right????
@christianWilliams-pc4jn
@christianWilliams-pc4jn Жыл бұрын
If they were held at gunpoint and then tied up before being stabbed. Or if the victims were all sleeping and we're stabbed in vital areas so they didn't really have a chance to scream or try to get away.
@laurasimko4426
@laurasimko4426 Жыл бұрын
Richard speck. Its very possible.
@exitscreaming4637
@exitscreaming4637 Жыл бұрын
Richard Speck , Ted Bundy.....
@bbloodyangel1
@bbloodyangel1 Жыл бұрын
Matthew DeGrood , calgary canada
@erinshaw6266
@erinshaw6266 Жыл бұрын
@@bbloodyangel1 I don’t think I’ve ever heard of this guy. Gonna look it up! Thanks!
@pretendhuman
@pretendhuman Жыл бұрын
This will be a huge case.
@acgillespie
@acgillespie Жыл бұрын
*Hollywood writers are drooling, It'll make a great Horrific Thriller* Ax man & Hatchet man go to a college party to score some hotties
@AyayronBalakay
@AyayronBalakay Жыл бұрын
@@acgillespie nah its gonna be the ex or the dishwasher
@acgillespie
@acgillespie Жыл бұрын
@@AyayronBalakay .Sometimes these things never get solved. Not in real life anyways & Columbo and Kojack both died
@Fairytailes6917
@Fairytailes6917 Жыл бұрын
PURE SADNESS ALWAYS AROUND OR ON HOLIDAYS ☹️☮️☮️☮️☮️☮️🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏💔💔💔💔💔💔
@lorraineperez1845
@lorraineperez1845 Жыл бұрын
AUDIO..POOR!! Prayers For All..🙏
@Stretch-bh8pd
@Stretch-bh8pd Жыл бұрын
My grandson knew the 2 from Lake City high school 😢3 were from kootenia county
@maryh6953
@maryh6953 Жыл бұрын
Oh man. I’m so sorry. This hurts my heart. I have a son in college still and The inability to protect them every second of the day is part of parenting once they’re a certain age they walk out the door and you can’t protect them anymore and I just don’t know what’s happening in this world there seems to be more evil than good
@Sufferingsassafrass
@Sufferingsassafrass Жыл бұрын
😢😢
@tammybarrett7650
@tammybarrett7650 Жыл бұрын
How can 4 ppl NOT somehow get out of a situation like that..this is really strange ,,,I understand they can't say anything YET ,,,but NO ONE HEARD anything and or one of them escaped..then this just means there is a killer out running around..or killers..stabbed them to death ..someone was covered in blood..this is horrible,,I have so many questions.
@showerpwner
@showerpwner Жыл бұрын
There is footage out there of two of the girls out ordering food and a man follows them. My speculative guess is he was after one or both of them, attacked them at their house maybe and the other two kids tried to save them or saw the guy and had to go too.
@zss.1589
@zss.1589 Жыл бұрын
It was probably someone in the group theyre waiting to release the information due to families grieving
@sheree6542
@sheree6542 Жыл бұрын
God bless the Coronor and all who are helping in the senseless evil tragedy 🙏😢💔🙌😔😞🙏😢💔🙌😔😞🙏
@dorindaengland313
@dorindaengland313 Жыл бұрын
wow she really didnt say to much did she ,...no time frame and nothing about location or saying manner of death,.... just multiple crime scene and she even wavered on describing , " lots of blood"
@marksark1119
@marksark1119 Жыл бұрын
The close-up of her hands says it all. She was a twisted, nervous wreck.
@davidmenke7552
@davidmenke7552 Жыл бұрын
She doesn't strike me as a coroner. Feels like a substitute teacher who forgot to take her xanax this morning.
@donna5499
@donna5499 Жыл бұрын
That is so fn rude be kind or don’t say anything❤
@cdeangelo1
@cdeangelo1 Жыл бұрын
This woman is totally unqualified!!!!!
@laswan5
@laswan5 11 ай бұрын
Why is that?
@andyblank3546
@andyblank3546 Жыл бұрын
Not appropriate to ask about the scene.
@anneharrington7951
@anneharrington7951 Жыл бұрын
She was very inappropriate mentioning blood.
@Jenn_80
@Jenn_80 Жыл бұрын
Not appropriate for the Coroner to even give an interview AT ALL at this point, my mind is BLOWN!
@AyayronBalakay
@AyayronBalakay Жыл бұрын
@@Jenn_80 they wanted to clear the young man of murder suicide
@commonsenseisntcommon1776
@commonsenseisntcommon1776 Жыл бұрын
Why do a press conference if you cant tell us anything?
@Mr6wolfdog
@Mr6wolfdog Жыл бұрын
Thank You! 👍
@mbr0916
@mbr0916 Жыл бұрын
They can’t jeopardize the investigation. She provided whatever information she’s allowed to give at the current point in time.
@anneharrington7951
@anneharrington7951 Жыл бұрын
She said a lot. Too much.
@exitscreaming4637
@exitscreaming4637 Жыл бұрын
@@anneharrington7951 What specifically was " too much " ?
@marklevy8443
@marklevy8443 Жыл бұрын
Wow!!! What a job that would be as a Coroner.
@chrisiman2406
@chrisiman2406 Жыл бұрын
Cathy's non disclosure has certainly provided me with more to consider when it comes to potential trauma and scene characteristics. She's obviously been traumatized by what she's seen. 😢
@KA-hi4eh
@KA-hi4eh Жыл бұрын
Cathy's composure does not indicate that by no means. She is somewhat matter of fact.
@chrisiman2406
@chrisiman2406 Жыл бұрын
@@KA-hi4eh I'd have to disagree as I've watched one video where she's answering questions and when asked certain things her body language/facial expressions and response express quite a bit more than "matter of fact." The video here is not the the full video interview that I watched. It's either been edited out or another interview altogether. In the one I watched, Mabbutt was asked specific questions regarding victim location, extent of injuries, if the victim's had slicing injuries, and if they're necks had been cut. That video interview is where I got my information. Watch that one and then you can decide for yourself.
@robingardipee1488
@robingardipee1488 10 ай бұрын
Why didn't Jack D call the Goncalves family when he heard of Kaylee's passing? Hmmmmm......i wonder. He sure went and got the dog. Je knew where his dog was the whole night i am sure.
@americanprincess851
@americanprincess851 6 ай бұрын
He was being interviewed by the police that time.
@user-zx2rf9uc7v
@user-zx2rf9uc7v 11 ай бұрын
Two homicides covered in 16 yrs of being a coroner. She is clueless! First time on TV! Claiming issues are not relevant is unprofessional. Stating things that were clearly untrue about them being asleep and in their beds. Stating that she wasn't able to speak about obvious questions of interest is suspicious of reporters asking them. Not identifying the wounds properly.
@ubhiddeninthetrees
@ubhiddeninthetrees 6 ай бұрын
And not showing up at the crime scene when called to take possession of the bodies butt instead waiting until 5:30 when she is given permission. It is her job to go immediately to a crime scene to make sure the bodies remain uncompromised. That she admitted to shirking such a duty and putting the blame on people with no authority over her tells me this isn't the first time she has done it. She needs to go.
@TheFrecklesmcg
@TheFrecklesmcg Жыл бұрын
People should know there was weird activity with animal killing in the area within the past month, expanding from dead wolves being left at sororities and frats to someone’s mini Aussie being skinned and filleted. I also feel it’s worth noting that Moscow ID is a tiny town, people typically leave their doors unlocked and trust each other. People return wallets. You run into the same folks three times a day sometimes. This is not normal.
@Kennedy4OurCountry
@Kennedy4OurCountry Жыл бұрын
Oh dear lord. Nope didn't know that. Disgusting...terribly strange how things like that are IGNORED by LE when everyone knows it means humans are next. Maybe these hideous animal slayings could have been investigated & the deaths of 4 young people prevented???? (Mini aussies are so cute 😔)
@chrisiman2406
@chrisiman2406 Жыл бұрын
If I may ask, when we're these dead wolves found and at what fraternity or sorority? I've not read anything about such occurrences but am aware of buddy, belonging to the Colbert's. Thanks.
@Cagnaccioitalia
@Cagnaccioitalia Жыл бұрын
Yes they were found
@michellee3285
@michellee3285 Жыл бұрын
Whats a mini Aussie? Im an Australian 😍
@hollywoodjaded
@hollywoodjaded Жыл бұрын
Medical Examiner and Coroners are 2 separate entities. Coroners are elected laypersons, who do not have to be physicians, nor possess any medical training. Medical Examiners are physicians. They possess specific training in forensics (usually forensic pathology). The ME does all of the death investigation; performs the autopsies; conducts and interprets the labs and performs expert testimony in court. Coroners inquire as to the cause of death; the manner of death; and sometimes complete the death certificate. Theirs is a more political and/or government procedural role. The Coroner should always consult with the ME, whom is the scientific authority. As to the Idaho case: Cathy Mabbutt formerly practiced as an RN. She then attended law school, completing her degree over 20 years ago, having political aspirations.
@MoralMaze163
@MoralMaze163 Жыл бұрын
I've never heard of a coroner who is also a defense lawyer. How can that not be a conflict of interest?
@speakvanholding247etc
@speakvanholding247etc Жыл бұрын
She lied. She just doesn't want to go there.
@kimbermichelle3922
@kimbermichelle3922 Жыл бұрын
They are interviewing her for no reason, can't get any more information on an active case.
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