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Reacting to Jenny's video on WDW Star Wars Galactic Star Cruiser

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KohXtra

KohXtra

2 ай бұрын

When Star Cruiser was first revealed (Along with that price tag) I was curious as to how they hoped it would succeed. It did not.
Recently, Jenny Nicholson pulled an HBomberguy on the attraction, revealing the experience and its secrets, so I had some thoughts, as well, mostly on the poor showmanship and mechanics involved.
And don't worry, i don't do reactions too often, but the Star Cruiser interested me personally.
Jenny's Video: • The Spectacular Failur...
Her kickin' outro song: • The Spectacular Failur...
The Dubious Screenrant Article: screenrant.com/star-wars-gala...
Rule 702 of Evidence Law: www.law.cornell.edu/rules/fre...

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@bruceclimas2266
@bruceclimas2266 Ай бұрын
I think the thing that saddens me most is Jenny put herself out there to try and enjoy the experience despite all the 'Hotel's' failings and was repeatedly let down.
@fuzzylittlespider
@fuzzylittlespider 2 ай бұрын
This is not a reaction video, this is a video essay.
@aaanycolour
@aaanycolour 2 ай бұрын
Love your commitment to the Jenny video framing bit 👏
@Acidonia150reborn
@Acidonia150reborn 2 ай бұрын
Requiring A Phone to do almost anything feels really lazy with amount it costs too with the cost they could give you a device that only works there to make it more immersive. The malls there just replaced all their Decicated Toy shops with a target practise game thats just ai looking scifi art on its walls and the only place that ever seems to be crowded is the store selling old Disney Park Merch. Every time we revisted The parks and Area things seem to slightly worse.
@TheHoskingFiles
@TheHoskingFiles 2 ай бұрын
First - Jenny's criticisms are really spot on in this video. It isn't uninformed hate. Its not bashing on Disney. Its a pretty decent analysis of where a premium experience fell short - and a bit on how that's emblematic of where Disney is as a whole. So where I might quibble with her analysis here and there... its absolutely not any attempt to disagree with her criticisms or invalidate her experiences. My bias - we spent a chunk of change to have this once-in-a-lifetime experience. And that's what we got. We had an awesome (albeit not without issue) experience. Don't regret doing it. Would do it again (assuming it was available and I had that kind of money for another trip). We showed up dressed up with a backstory. The characters and castmembers took in everything and ran with it. It was great. Couple quick observations... Jenny mentioned this but didn't go in to detail. When you check in, you get an "M-Band" - a special designed Magic Band. Its used to unlock your room. Buy things, etc. (i.e. everything a Magic Band does). But its also part of the game. You have to unlock access to doors which you then use your m-band to access. And I suspect the characters are pinging the m-bands when you interact with them. I had one character actually ask me to step away and scan in to a terminal - it had an air like he wasn't getting a reading on my band and needed to record my ID to link to our interaction and/or unlock events. The datapad phone app is probably a bigger deal than Jenny suspected. She showed all the QR code scanning and dismissed it as busy work for kids. But I was hacking in to devices (in the park as well as on the ship) as well as running missions for faction points. It worked pretty solid for us (albeit not perfectly - valid criticisms by Jenny again apply). And we had a lot of fun with them. But then - we used to play Ingress. We're conditioned. You mentioned "talking" to characters via the room terminal. That was going on with the datapad app. We unlocked missions by dismissing or warming up to character datapad messages. And I suspect our face-to-face interactions were unlocking some of those interactions which in turn prompted further face-to-face interactions and event invites. Could be wrong as to how deep that is. Again - Jenny critique of corner cutting could mean this seemed deeper than it really was. Especially given Jenny's personal experience. Finally - no, shill-baiters... I'm not justifying the premium fee I paid. If the Starcruiser was still in operation and you, random stranger, were to ask me whether its worth it... I'd say that asking that question probably means it isn't. For you. We had no regrets. But I'm not about to try and talk someone in to buying that ticket for themselves.
@mai_komagata
@mai_komagata 2 ай бұрын
my favorite immersive experience will always be meow wolf locations -- they are sorta like an adult playground/art installation that tells a story (sometimes a choose your own adventure story, you get a little rfid card with your faction in some of them to trigger diff cut scenes) and has a lot to do with minimal/no cast interaction. and it costs 50$. one of the reasons they needed to keep things to 2-3 days is cast downtime. but also guests needed to be "on" for like 16 hour days, too. i think a solution to both these problems would have been to have interactive story installations -- more "climate simulator spaces", escape hatches you crawl into to discover cargo holds, cabinets to open with curios and maps, escape room style puzzles that spit out easter eggs, mini movies, etc. That way the guests have more to explore and do, and you don't need to schedule them so tightly. I also think you could do an escape room puzzle for guests, and easily eat up a two hour block of people's time, with only a couple of cast members behind the scenes for hints and troubleshooting, and randomly assign these to people interested throughout one of the days. you have 5 rooms, and 10 blocks of time to run them (and that is max, maybe less people want to do them, if there are very little kids or people who hate puzzles). Or you could do something like Boda Borg, where there are a lot of puzzle/activity rooms that dont require cast to reset anything, but you can try them over and over.
@Cutpear
@Cutpear Ай бұрын
Meow Wolf is great! And because it’s not cost prohibitive, there’s no internalized pressure to get super involved with the story if you don’t want to. Lots of people take their time looking at/interacting with the art aspects, or lightly going along with whatever storyline they come across.
@chriscma1
@chriscma1 Ай бұрын
There really is no excuse for the obstructed seats in the dining room at that price point.
@buckkowalzek9745
@buckkowalzek9745 2 ай бұрын
Love your internet friendly numbered list. Jenny would be proud!
@UnderTheSkin13
@UnderTheSkin13 2 ай бұрын
I remembered the spider, but I forgot about the hat. Guess I should watch that video again. Update: I saw the video and in my defense the cowboy hat thing is a footnote right at the end so it can be understood if not completely forgiven.
@Ceaseroni
@Ceaseroni 2 ай бұрын
Great setup! I smiled and said "Yes" out loud as soon as saw the thumbnail.
@kristensadana8097
@kristensadana8097 2 ай бұрын
On the gameplay, I would even have people pick their faction before receiving their M bands, so that they get color coordinated magic bands related to what faction they chose. Simple enough for the actors to recognize and respond to.
@ironwolf56
@ironwolf56 Ай бұрын
Yeah; I've done things like LARP hotels (and similar) before and nearly every one of them if they had storylines anyway; had you select a storyline preference when you booked.
@Jenna_Miles
@Jenna_Miles 2 ай бұрын
The description got me sobbing 🙏🙏
@LuvzToLol21
@LuvzToLol21 Ай бұрын
I feel like there's something conceptually wrong with the Star Cruiser being this pristine cruise ship-like environment. When I think of Star Wars, I think of *griminess* . I think of the sleazy Mos Eisley cantina which Ben Kenobi calls "a wretched hive of scum and villainy", or the rebels hunkered down in a freezing-cold base on Hoth that they probably dug out by hand. When there is a clean and pristine environment shown in the movies, it's typically associated with something bad. Like how the Death Star is this labyrinth of maintenance tunnels and steel, or how Coruscant has this beautiful exterior with the Jedi Temple and the Council, but it hides a dark underbelly miles below the surface. Disney has managed to entirely remove the "War" from Star Wars.
@ironwolf56
@ironwolf56 Ай бұрын
That's one of the first things she talked about in her video and I agree with her conclusion; the retro gritty look is Star Warsy but people aren't going to want to stay at a hotel that looks grimy and rundown. Also that look isn't the only Star Wars one; there's also things like Naboo and Alderaan which are very clean and beautiful.
@Kandarako
@Kandarako 2 ай бұрын
Assuming everyrhing worked, I would programed the reservations In a way you could locked a path in the larping, asigning an established amount of rebels, loyals or smugglers per event. It would still be confusing for performers, but you would not made people trying and failing to lock a path. And could lead entire groups of less confused people to the desired activities. And if the price went reasonable, people would have a good reason to book another time to choose a different path. I think that also would facilitate to assign reasonable time moments so people could roam or breath certain times and know where to go and when to continue their story without the feeling if they blink they lose money worrh
@ironwolf56
@ironwolf56 Ай бұрын
I've done weekend type LARP vacation things before and a lot of them ask you when you book what storyline preference you have, it's weird Disney didn't think of that. I mean sure also have an option of anything goes but still...
@StarWarsThrowbacks
@StarWarsThrowbacks Ай бұрын
All the pixie dusters are so mad over her video 😅
@Kandarako
@Kandarako 2 ай бұрын
I'm from another country. The last time I went to Disney World with my family was in 2011. We had that free magical express from the airport to our hotel, and I remember taking free fast pass from the main atractions cabins. We thought it was awesome compared with universal, where we had to buy fast pass. We even had fast pass as compensation for not going in atractions that closed because rain or maintaining
@XCATX25
@XCATX25 2 ай бұрын
I disagree greatly about this. It is true that it's smarter than them, sure, but the experience lacks intelligence completely. It needs to be actually smarter and more grandiose for that price to make sense. Or the price has to scale down considerably of course, but considering they never even tried that, it probably was never an option
@Ratchetfan321
@Ratchetfan321 2 ай бұрын
Sorta off topic. But any plans on doing a Lorcana 1 year later style video? Or would you wait for a 2 year update? I've seen people fight back at your initial takes and I wonder how you feel about changes like their reprint policy, changes to their ETB style boxes, the advancement of mechanics like removing players lore and other options like new card types.
@tomswarder4313
@tomswarder4313 2 ай бұрын
i just found one of those quigon lightsabers u got behind you from 99
@Duhhh233
@Duhhh233 2 ай бұрын
Where are the credits for the animation at the beginning?
@kohxtra
@kohxtra 2 ай бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/b89ye5WEyNfLh30.html&pp=ygUNa3JvbmlpIHNwaWRlcg%3D%3D
@johnmorgan2551
@johnmorgan2551 8 күн бұрын
So you agreed with Jenny’s analysis.
@Tabadi
@Tabadi Ай бұрын
Is that a takodachi? Are you a takodachi? Do you have cookies?
@laurabraunsberg385
@laurabraunsberg385 2 ай бұрын
It’s true. Micro transactions are threatening the Disney experience.
@pyredynasty
@pyredynasty 2 ай бұрын
Evermore has gone under now too. I think people's appetite for this kind of thing does not meet the cost of operating it.
@Jenna_Miles
@Jenna_Miles 2 ай бұрын
Idk, both had some extremely questionable choices made in how they were managed… I think it’s to opposite, to be honest, with more people being into RP/LARP than ever before. From what I’ve seen anyhow
@laurabraunsberg385
@laurabraunsberg385 2 ай бұрын
702’d!
@AltairEgoX
@AltairEgoX 2 ай бұрын
They did make too much spaghetti 🍝😊
@mikemurphy8412
@mikemurphy8412 2 ай бұрын
The chapter breakdowns give me serious redlettermedia vibes..
@ironwolf56
@ironwolf56 Ай бұрын
Galactic Starcruiser failed because they had the kind of people that do VIP at Coachella try to design a LARP weekend for Star Wars geeks.
@thebigdb1
@thebigdb1 Ай бұрын
Cool video. This was my first time watching any of your stuff. I said it many times before, but Time after Time, it's just reinforcing my point that the fandom I think does a better job at this kind of stuff then the actual corporation itself. Which I think it's going to be the demise to a lot of these franchises. Unfortunately when I think of Disney, I think a cheap Chinese crap, and that's what they bring to the whole Star Wars universe I think. I can understand not bringing gun props to the event, but I have lightsabers and such that I see no issue with being brought to the park or added to the experience. My attitude is taking a lightsaber to something like this wouldn't be any different then going to a comic con. I think the reason why that they don't want you to use or bring a lightsaber is that they want you to buy THEIR cheap piece of crap. I've looked at what they produced, and it isn't anything that's special. If anything a downgrade to what you can buy for the same relative price somewhere else. Because most lightsaber blades are roughly an inch across, I could have easily seen using a lightsaber you already own or something you bought at the park as a gimmick to open things or as an interaction piece to something on the ship or Park itself. Like sticking it into something like a key, triggering something to happen. Opening a crate, unlocking a door, something. Just not very well thought out, and cheaply done in some respects.
@Rayquaza894
@Rayquaza894 2 ай бұрын
You 6 foot 2? You look short, like 5 2
@kohxtra
@kohxtra 2 ай бұрын
I am, indeed, 6'2". I'm just built like an ogre.
@thewalkingdad68
@thewalkingdad68 2 ай бұрын
It's funny to me. Jenny Nicholson hasn't put a video on KZfaq in over a year untill a few days ago. She does a overly long but thorough review of a hotel/experience albeit extremely overpriced, that closed forever 7 months ago. In nothing more than a ploy to make her money back and cash in while doing so. She's not helping anyone who could go there, because it's closed. In addition to the cash she will take in for said video, she only put Disney in the spotlight and how evil corporations like them only want your money and care nothing about quality and customer satisfaction. Which to those of us with functional brains has known for years. She's not fooling me and neither is Disney. They both can take a flying leap for all I care.
@Waterseeker_
@Waterseeker_ 2 ай бұрын
What point did you think you were making with this deeply inane comment?
@christiancardenas2975
@christiancardenas2975 2 ай бұрын
You find that funny?
@VSpoodle
@VSpoodle 2 ай бұрын
Tell me you don't know about her patreon without admitting you don't know about her patreon
@penguinsrbirds2
@penguinsrbirds2 2 ай бұрын
How dare people make entertaining reviews if they are not immediately useful to me. Pointing out the flaws in failed projects has never helped anyone critically think about other projects they might want to spend money on.
@astrogirl927
@astrogirl927 2 ай бұрын
So no ones allowed to review there experience at places if they paid for it…? That makes no sense.
@Badbufon
@Badbufon 2 ай бұрын
i understand, but also i don't feel any sympathy for people that has 6k to burn on larping at disney
@kohxtra
@kohxtra 2 ай бұрын
I ask you to reconsider, because, as Jenny alludes, a lot of people made this their "Once-in-a-lifetime" Disney Trip and got terribly burned.
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