✅ If you're interested in buying panels from the Alibaba vendor discussed in the video, check this website: redlighttherapymachines.com or go to www.alibaba.com/ Before digging into this topic, if you're not familiar with my work, then check out some of my best red light therapy resources such as: ✅ My epic Facebook group on red light therapy and more: aferg.co/fb-group ✅ Full playlist of my 2022 body panel red light therapy comparison series with all episodes: aferg.co/RLT-2021-playlist - if you're short on time then check out the summary episode towards the end of the playlist ✅ My excel sheet for comparing different panels to their competition: aferg.co/rlt-data ✅ For my red light therapy buyer's guide blog, follow this link: aferg.co/RLTguide ✅ My red light testing methodology for reviews video: aferg.co/rlt-testing-method ✅ How I use red light therapy: aferg.co/how-I-use-RLT ✅ My playlist with many body panel and tabletop red light therapy panel review: aferg.co/rlt-review
@SessleIsosceles Жыл бұрын
Alex, do you have any testimonial videos about how you got into RLT , or what it has done for your life? I have been watching your videos to learn about RLT world and decide what's best but they are pricey, what I'm really after is a testimonial about how much life improvement this modality offers. To put myself into context I am after most sleep, recovery and fitness related help including pain (have had surgeries in the past) the claimed skin and hair benefits although amazing and welcome would just be secondary as I know these are proven but I am more interested in all the other benefits and if they stand up to the scientific claims. Can you please either say something regarding this, point me to a video you have on this or even make an in depth video on this ?! Thanks for your efforts !
@LightTherapyInsiders Жыл бұрын
@@SessleIsosceles Hey, great question. Have a look at this video to get you started - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/badkhKaZyp7Rk4U.html
@sicksharkx92 Жыл бұрын
@@LightTherapyInsiders how much de EFM value for this?
@metatronmen24316 ай бұрын
The problem is the US resellers charge you $1000 on top of the cost which is a robbery.
@BenjaminHari4 ай бұрын
Exactly! You're paying quadruple the price for English speaking customer service in case things go wrong. Just pay with Paypal and you're secure from anything bad.
@cynimonnn22 күн бұрын
100% - it's rare to see a cost difference of 100, most retailers are selling the same products for at least 50% more so it's worth the pain of going thru Alibaba in those instances
@emilysha418 Жыл бұрын
Would love to see more of these videos comparing these Chinese panels
@LightTherapyInsiders Жыл бұрын
Cool I'll do some more :)
@phototristan5 ай бұрын
They’re all made in China. It’s just that the companies spec out with the different makers according to their instructions.
@chocolatefudge52638 ай бұрын
I dont mind paying premium for the service but not 500 to thousands more.
@LightTherapyInsiders8 ай бұрын
Fair enough! Thats why Alibaba is a good option for some :)
@korypostma Жыл бұрын
Nice to see this, it would be nice to see a lot more of the Chinese panels and how they perform.
@loriwysocki4203 Жыл бұрын
The majority are mass produced in China for private label. Only a handful of US and Canadian companies produce their own products.
@LightTherapyInsiders Жыл бұрын
Yeah I will see if I can get my hands on some more. As @Lori stated - most of the common panels we see are made in China and in fact coming from the same factories.
@davemTX20233 ай бұрын
They perform the same!
@radfaraf Жыл бұрын
I don't feel like it's much a risk because credit card companies are pretty good at having your back if you don't get what you were promised. I ran into issues before with orders from aliexpress for other products, the support was horrible, but my credit card company made it right. And even though I did run into issues it's after placing many orders over the years, so only a small percentage of them had issues.
@LightTherapyInsiders Жыл бұрын
Hey good comment. I suppose at the end of the day it comes down to what the customer values.
@maureengreen6174 ай бұрын
Hi Alex, I can't believe I missed this video when you released it a year ago, but I LOVE Alibaba! Sure, it's not the western customer experience we're used to, but since most of the brand panels are made in China, I think it's worth pushing through the site to get a panel at cost. I ordered a tabletop panel, about 9" x12" from Shenzhen Azure Technology Co. for my vacation home and I love it. It has a unique "C"-shaped stand that pivots in every direction, so that I can suspend it parallel to the table and shine the light on my decrepit arthritic hands. 🙄 It was only $60 with shipping another $60 to Massachusetts. As you have dozens of quality panels, you don't have to settle for an Alibaba panel, but for the rest of us--- I definitely recommend ordering direct from the manufacturer. Thanks for testing the power of your panel. That's the only question I had about these things.
@LightTherapyInsiders4 ай бұрын
Glad it worked out for you!
@tonycd27094 ай бұрын
Hi Maureen, my friend's sister has a similar problem for many years. I'm researching about this RLT. Wish you the best. Please keep us posted. Thanks.
@maureengreen6173 ай бұрын
@@tonycd2709 Hi Tony, I haven’t noticed any improvement in the arthritis in my hands unfortunately, but my full body panel at my primary home is amazing in other ways. I have more energy and stamina than I’ve had in years and my sleep has improved. LLLT hasn’t solved all my problems 😳 but it definitely helps a lot. Best of luck to your sister.
@prototype90006 ай бұрын
paying over 1200$ for a panel with red leds insane you could build the same for yourself for 10$
@shakazuluzone Жыл бұрын
shocked this channel doesn't have more subs- great content
@karencaron1 Жыл бұрын
So true!
@LightTherapyInsiders Жыл бұрын
Hey I appreciate the support and the sub! I'm going to put a bit more effort into YT this year so expect to see more (and better) videos.
@rasferrastfarian739 Жыл бұрын
Hey Alex - I'm like you, local, English speaking, warranty cover for peace of mind; costs a bit more - DONE! I took your advice and bought a Rojo 1500 panel here in Australia. Awesome service, great people to deal with. Thanks for all you do in this space!
@LightTherapyInsiders Жыл бұрын
Hey, awesome work with Rojo! They have a great team behind them. Yeah I'm happy paying for those conveniences, but I understand not everyone is like that :)
@arnoldm889 Жыл бұрын
was emf bad with the panel?
@automaton1115 ай бұрын
Unless you are in the top 10% of income earners in the US, you can’t afford to buy this from a local company. They are basically starving us out over here. A house in the suburbs is almost $1 million now, not to mention healthcare costs, food prices, and everything else here. Yet wages and good job opportunities are low.
@LightTherapyInsiders4 ай бұрын
Hey, I'm sorry to hear this.
@davemTX20233 ай бұрын
Try Texas, life is good. Lots of high paying jobs. Try DFW
@kell7195 Жыл бұрын
Are you paying a "bit" more for a name brand panel or 100% more? I personally would do my research and buy1 for half price or 2 for the same price, why not it's made in the same factory you are just avoiding paying some middleman half the cost for the privilege of a branded box
@LightTherapyInsiders Жыл бұрын
Hey. Yes some of the price differences are easily 100% or more. But this isn't all profit - it will be covering things such as marketing costs, branding and packaging, manuals, operation overheads, support costs, local taxes and regulation compliances etc. I know a lot of people prefer buying local for protection from local consumer laws, faster shipping, the better support and working with a local company. But for those that don't value this, then yeah you can cut out the middle man :)
@K9Trixx9 ай бұрын
Platinum LED boxes surprisingly all said Made in China.
@TheXone7 Жыл бұрын
I think most of the LRT brands come from China, incl. MITO. But it is not worth the warranty issues to buy from China directly.
@LightTherapyInsiders Жыл бұрын
Yes you are correct.
@chrismarin53336 ай бұрын
Have you looked at shenzen idea light limited (the OEM MitoPro uses)?
@LightTherapyInsiders6 ай бұрын
No I haven't, only Idoo Lighting (this video)
@SG-vk4cq6 ай бұрын
Idea Therapy Light from Schenzhen is a great light. The 300 max and 300 pro is great quality. The price point with shipping is much better than re-branded models sold here in the States. Markup is ridiculous.
@kstephenson94656 ай бұрын
I bought my red light panel from Shenzhen company from Ali Express, took me 5 minutes to check out, arrived 10 days later, multi-wave, we tested it, loving it
@natasha091795 ай бұрын
@@kstephenson9465did you pay extra for special shipping?
@CoconutPatel Жыл бұрын
Oh man, sorry you had to go through a lot of trouble to get the panel. Appreciate the review that much more!
@LightTherapyInsiders Жыл бұрын
Ahh it's all good. I'm glad I stuck with it!
@MrLardobutt6 ай бұрын
It's not that big a deal, I've ordered from Alibaba plenty of times before, if you know what it is and how it works then it is what it is, which is different, not better or worse, different
@Janisg6165 ай бұрын
Similar size name brand panel costs not a little bit extra, but 2x or 3x. I ordered some very cheap and weak Aliexpress panel (it has 660 and 850nm LEDS and consumes only 25 to 30 W) and something similar to a belt, same wavelengs and power consumption also about 25W. I work from home and can use those products all day long (wile working on computer) to get some dosage from such low power leds. If I like the red light and feel at least some benefits I might be looking into similar Chinese panel as in this review. I am confident that those lights will have no negative effects on me, but not sure if it ill have any effect on me, therefore I will try cheap product to see if it is worth to spend 500$ on more powerfull cheap device that promises almost too good to be true health benefits. I think that 660nm and 850nm have the same effect no matter if the panel has a remote control and lcd screen or not.
@alexpolidori65666 ай бұрын
The big brands just buy from China and personalise them, sell them for 5x the price
@LightTherapyInsiders6 ай бұрын
There is some truth to this, but it's not 100% accurate. I have a video on this out soon.
@MrLardobutt6 ай бұрын
It's not that big a deal, I've ordered from Alibaba plenty of times before, if you know what it is and how it works then it is what it is, which is different, not better or worse, just different, I don't mind doing a bit of work if it means cutting out the middle men, specially when I know there's companies out there who simply slap a brand sticker on these things, then sell them for 2x-4x the price
@LightTherapyInsiders6 ай бұрын
Thats it! Some people though dont' want to do the work.
@kstephenson94656 ай бұрын
Me too, I’m in Australia and buy everything household from Ali Express, they are a dream to deal with Alex made it sound as if China is in Mars! 🙄 I might let him onto a secret, 90% of RLT devices are all made in China! he’s showing his bias here, terribly disappointing,
@krikrix164 ай бұрын
I wish you tried the EMFs :(. do you know how good they are with EMFs? thank you , great review
@LightTherapyInsiders3 ай бұрын
I tested the Idoo 1500 in my Best Red Light Therapy Panel 2024? EPIC Comparison video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fKxzpc9ilqetko0.htmlsi=DH3wLuVYXLjjsuAb
@bonnie_nelms8 ай бұрын
I’m with you. Not worth the headaches and stress of dealing with China.
@hussainamina Жыл бұрын
Would be interested to know if if still works, 6 months on? (Did anyone use it after this review - if so, can you get feedback off them?)
@LightTherapyInsiders Жыл бұрын
Hey, yeah I can't comment on this as I haven't used it since my review went out! BUT I know there are people in our fb group that are using alibaba/direct from China products. So maybe jump in there and ask them - facebook.com/groups/lighttherapyinsiders
@davemTX20233 ай бұрын
I have some that are 4 years old - work perfectly- I just wanted newer models.They are the same panels, high quality
@martinzubero9526 Жыл бұрын
Hi Alex. I just purchased the MitoPro Adapt 1500. Was wondering when you will release your video review of the series. Thanks!
@LightTherapyInsiders Жыл бұрын
Oh awesome. Um it's still going to be a few weeks away unfortunately :( How are you finding it?
@theresajopson4157 Жыл бұрын
I too gave up on Alibaba. Going to check the other out. TY
@julieorr-sf5lu Жыл бұрын
Hi just to add to my message below. I bought mine last year, I have had no problems with it at all. I just stopped during it for a while because I'm not sure how much they cost to run with the high fuel cost. Do you have an idea on the cost of running this product say for 30 minutes. As far as purchasing from China I thought it was worth the risk for the savings I made, it was half price of other products.
@LightTherapyInsiders Жыл бұрын
Hey. I'll have a video on this topic coming out in a few weeks :) Be sure to sub and stay tuned.
@julieorr-sf5lu Жыл бұрын
Hello, I purchased this panel on EBay for £280 with free delivery. Delivered in a couple of weeks. Do you know how much it will cost now to run for 30 minutes a time.
@LightTherapyInsiders Жыл бұрын
Hey, without knowing the exact spec's no I can't answer that sorry. But I do have a video coming out soon that looks at the cost of running RLT panels. And I can tell you now LED's are rather efficient so they don't cost much to run :)
@AllergicToMakeBelieve5 ай бұрын
Thank you for your great work! It's really helpful for those of us on a budget who don't want to buy the wrong panel. One request please... Could you please not use flashing lights in your data charts? It's very distracting and hard to focus on the numbers. Thank you kindly.
@LightTherapyInsiders3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the tip!
@davemTX20233 ай бұрын
Mine came with a manual and was highly rated on Reddit and mine is almost identical if not identical to my Mito red at less than half the price.
@LightTherapyInsiders3 ай бұрын
Glad it worked out well for you!
@alexwolf55473 ай бұрын
Which configs mate? Or the reddit link pls 🙏🙏
@davemTX20233 ай бұрын
@@alexwolf5547 I tried posting the links and they were deleted
@davemTX20233 ай бұрын
@@alexwolf5547 I posted the links but they were deleted for some reason
@ItsAllGodAnyway Жыл бұрын
I’d rather spend the money and have peace of mind. I’d worry about off gassing… emf’s…. General quality control…. Fires 😂…. I just want a solid company name backing a medical grade device.
@LightTherapyInsiders Жыл бұрын
Yeah I'm in your camp as well :)
@JohnSmithh644 Жыл бұрын
Does it have the screw holes in the back so you could mount it on the biomax horizontal stand?
@LightTherapyInsiders Жыл бұрын
Hey, I think it did. I'll have to go back and confirm though
@jingenchin20174 ай бұрын
Some Chinese made goods could be copied superficially the original ones, but the quality could not guaranteed.
@LightTherapyInsiders4 ай бұрын
Correct
@seeingyouontube Жыл бұрын
AliBaba Express has shipping included in some products.
@LightTherapyInsiders Жыл бұрын
yeah they do provide amazing value!
@TheParkBadBoy3 ай бұрын
I have a PlatinumLED BIOMAX 450 panel which I love but I'm now looking to upgrade to full body setup from a Chinese company. The PlatinumLED prices are just way too high! Its time the leading brand companies offer better prices for bigger purchases....Given companies like PlatinumLED are just a web front to a manufacturer in China with little overheads (e.g., no brick and mortar stores) their profit margins must be ridiculously huge! Perhaps pressure from the consumer going direct to the supplier in China will bring about change.
@LightTherapyInsiders3 ай бұрын
It's definitely an alternative, so let us know how you make it out!
@veganandlovingit3 ай бұрын
they don't seem like complicated items. Can local electrical repairs fix them if they are faulty?
@LightTherapyInsiders3 ай бұрын
Hey, not sure if they can get the parts. It would be great to know the answer to this, though.
@slowsky74ify Жыл бұрын
Hi, I'm a LED light therapy enthusiast. I really like your videos. At the moment I own the Dr. Dennis Gross mask and the Dermalux Flex. Now I was thinking about buying a giant panel for the body also because I'm two meters tall. A 6000w panel with 1200 pcs 5w leds. What do you think? I am negotiating with a Chinese dealer
@LightTherapyInsiders Жыл бұрын
Hey. Thank you! How are you finding the Mask and Flex? Your giant panel sounds epic!!! I have something similar but I use 4x BioMax 900s. You can see that video here - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/l7VijZqV19OqiY0.html
@bigbankyb8 ай бұрын
Did you have any volume loss in your face?
@jingenchin20174 ай бұрын
It is a common phenomena that the quality of Chinese made one is inferior to some extent, such as easily out of service and not durable, especially the electronic spare parts.
@LightTherapyInsiders4 ай бұрын
Yes, this aligns with my experiences as well.
@siorai1 Жыл бұрын
Did you check emf ?
@LightTherapyInsiders Жыл бұрын
Hey sorry if it's not in this video I must have missed it. I'm going through and updating my spreadsheet (seen here - aferg.co/rlt-data ) so I'll be sure to add the emf data to this spreadsheet when I'm working on the data for the panel.
@thea44425 ай бұрын
Great video. How long was the delivery from this company? I would greatly appreciate an answer, and of course I am subscribed! :)
@LightTherapyInsiders4 ай бұрын
Deliveries vary wildly depends upon the product. Reach out to them ask.
@prototype90006 ай бұрын
this video could have been made in less than a minute and have all the information you waited for
@davidtapscott18192 ай бұрын
O good here we go
@LightTherapyInsiders2 ай бұрын
I hope the video helped you!
@mavolant16 Жыл бұрын
will you ever test the vital red light series (charge, pro, elite) just curious about your thoughts on their red lights
@LightTherapyInsiders Жыл бұрын
Hey, I hadn't heard of them. But I'll do some research and look into reviewing one :)
@kmoliere504 Жыл бұрын
@Alex Fergus have you ever evaluated the large panels of American company EXESAS (JKG Industries)?
@LightTherapyInsiders Жыл бұрын
Hey no I haven't but I'll add it to my list for things to look into this year :)
@austinfitness111 ай бұрын
Just looked at their website. Either they use midgets as models, or they super impose the model next to the light to make the light look much bigger than it is. That deceptiveness alone is enough to put me off.
@fredli3357Ай бұрын
Is EXESAS (JKG Industries) USA local produced or import from China.
@laurahome1588 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review.
@LightTherapyInsiders Жыл бұрын
No worries!
@rl4195 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the comparison.
@LightTherapyInsiders Жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@kstephenson94656 ай бұрын
Ali Express app is best, I’m in Australia and I buy most stuff from there, I get refunds without any hassle, sorry Alex, I suspect you are biased and wants to sell your local made RLT for commissions
@lgpop33474 ай бұрын
Hi, it could be true, but I also have to say that Aliexpress and Alibaba sites are overwhelming, especially for over-analysing neurodivergents like me. :) I like the offers - when you know exactly what you want to order, I suppose it's fine. Plus, I got some suspect bills in my email and one "kind reminder" for a panel that I never ordered. I didn't react and then it stopped. :)
@JohnSmithh644 Жыл бұрын
Yes very nice
@LightTherapyInsiders Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@suzanneb41874 ай бұрын
Been a while but I found Ali Express much simpler to use..
@LightTherapyInsiders4 ай бұрын
That’s great!
@chocolatefudge52638 ай бұрын
I wonder how long they last....
@LightTherapyInsiders8 ай бұрын
Check this out - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rLCVfMyf3JrSiKs.html
@ttattx8 ай бұрын
Where are the other panels made? I imagined they all made in china
@LightTherapyInsiders8 ай бұрын
Some are made in Malaysia. But the key point with this video was that you are buying direct from China - instead of buying through a reseller.
@jimsmith48018 ай бұрын
No way> USA all the way!!!!!
@chocolatefudge52638 ай бұрын
If they manufacture in the USA with American people ok
@LightTherapyInsiders8 ай бұрын
Yeah I don't think any panels are made in the USA
@uupyerkilt Жыл бұрын
How much each year do you get for promoting this scam?
@ep-79 Жыл бұрын
What’s your problem
@uupyerkilt Жыл бұрын
$1000 plus really!
@tiny2love Жыл бұрын
I dont trust this
@LightTherapyInsiders Жыл бұрын
My video? Or the panel? Or something else?
@tiny2love Жыл бұрын
@@LightTherapyInsiders the panel and company
@uupyerkilt Жыл бұрын
so much Bs regarding this.
@LightTherapyInsiders Жыл бұрын
??
@Regirl75 Жыл бұрын
I’d tell you my dads story but you probably wouldn’t take the time to read it thus my dedication in finding the best RLT for myself. I appreciate these videos and the effort Alex takes in not only time but the research for each panel. If you want a debate please put all your findings of the ones you’ve researched and USED and let’s talk. If not, I’m sure there is a like minded negative group out there for you somewhere.
@uupyerkilt Жыл бұрын
Not at all interested as this is such bull!
@siorai1 Жыл бұрын
Which part ? Alibaba or red light therapy in general
@4tun8nanette Жыл бұрын
Then why are you here if you think Red Light Therapy is bs? Are you just bored and needed something to do, so hey, why not go dump some negativity somewhere?
@uupyerkilt Жыл бұрын
no it is a scam
@LightTherapyInsiders Жыл бұрын
I don't know what your issue is??
@maureengreen6174 ай бұрын
It's not a scam. I have an Alibaba panel and it is quality.
@MixtrisUFOimages3 ай бұрын
how come its taken you 6 different posts to say the same thing? bored are we?
@maureengreen6173 ай бұрын
@@MixtrisUFOimages Life goes better if you’re kind to people.