Renault Clio III 1.2 16v Cambelt Change

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5 жыл бұрын

Replacing the timing belt and water pump on a 2012 Renault Clio 1.2 16V D4F
I did a similar video a number of years ago on a Clio II with a 1.2 16V D4F engine. However, there are a few differences on the III that made this video worth doing.
This clio was bought with 68,000 miles but included no service history or record that the timing belt had been changed, if it was on its original belt then it was due to a replacement. Not knowing the state of the belt a new one was purchased as preventative maintenance.
The belt kit cost just under £100, and took about 3 hours of time to complete.
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@horizon7074 5 жыл бұрын

Thank’s for the guide it was really helpful for doing this kind of maintenance at home.

@peugeotCitroen2CV 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment glad to hear it helped

@richardhodgkiss9741 3 жыл бұрын

Brilliant video, helped so much yesterday 👍🏻👍🏻

@peugeotCitroen2CV 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment

@eldodos83 5 жыл бұрын

Good job there

@peugeotCitroen2CV 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment

@RogerkRogerk 2 жыл бұрын

Hi, Great Vid, Please could you tell me where I might find your Video for the Mk 2 Clio you mention above

@peugeotCitroen2CV 2 жыл бұрын

Hi, yes this is the clio mk2 timing belt video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bZdjh9uenZ-xnZs.html

@froywhernside 4 жыл бұрын

Great video. I have the 1.2 TCE (Turbo 101bhp) Grandtour dad-mobile model. Do you know if there's much difference with the TCE engine or pretty much the same? Looking to attempt a timing belt kit myself for the first time myself. I also need to replace the radiator/AC condenser which I'll remove the front bumper for so might give me better access to do the belt and water pump as well.

@peugeotCitroen2CV 4 жыл бұрын

My uncle has one of those clio estates as well with the 1.2 TCE, the wee bit of extra punch does make them a lot nicer to drive. I have not done a great deal of work on his clio but looking at the engine it all looks fairly straightforward. I would recommend going onto e manuals online and getting the manual for it they cover the more intricate differences that might crop up.

@douglasforsyth1716 4 жыл бұрын

Hey Really helpful video. I don't fully understand why you take the crankshaft pulley off initially?

@peugeotCitroen2CV 4 жыл бұрын

Its done to slip the timing belt past.

@armouredcomp9978 4 жыл бұрын

Hi, Great Video this with your earlier version shows some good work, keep it up. Please could you help if you can. I have just been changing the timing belt. All was well until the last tensioning sequencing of loosen the tensioner bolt (whilst holding with the 6mm allen key). If I turn the allen key clockwise the markers move anti-clockwise away from the final position (IE the spring is compressing more, so the cam must be loosening the belt), but if I turn the allen key anti-clockwise (ie the same way you first adjust the tensioner) the markers moves clockwise to the correct position. Any ideas why? Thanks

@peugeotCitroen2CV 4 жыл бұрын

The tensioner is an eccentric cam, i cant remember just from memory but they normally have a rotation arrow to show what direction to turn them when tighening them. Turn it in that direction until the pointer arrow lines up with the marks.

@josephsharkey5913 Жыл бұрын

Good Video. Its not the easiest belt to replace.

@ahmetmuratozturk6240 3 жыл бұрын

Hello there. What is the name of this hose? If we clean the Throat butterfly without removing its socket, will there be an adaptation problem?

@peugeotCitroen2CV 3 жыл бұрын

Can you give me a time in the video where the hose appears?

@janghes 5 жыл бұрын

Have a Modus with a D4F engine and changed the timing belt. I noticed the belt was walking away from the engine on the cam sprocket, hanging over the edge of the sprocket a couple of millimeters. I thought the new tensioner and belt would fix that, but the new belt is walking off the cam gear as well. I did notice a slight play in the crank sprocket (which I couldn't get off by hand and didn't have a decent puller for that job). I wonder if that could cause the belt to move. Ever had such an issue?

@peugeotCitroen2CV 5 жыл бұрын

This play you mentioned in the crankshaft sprocket, is it the sprocket iself or the pulley that goes over it? Never had a problem with the belt walking away or the cranshaft pulley having play in it. I would have the car looked at as soon as possible, it should not be doing that.

@janghes 5 жыл бұрын

@@peugeotCitroen2CV It is the sprocket itself. It's only a little, not visible, but audible as a slight clunking sound when rocking the sprocket by hand. As I said, I could not get it off. I didn't want to apply force and mess it all up, so I left it. Tension was set correctly. Car runs fine now, though. No strange noises, engine's happy. I'll open her up again soon to check the belt. My guess was that the V-belt pulley would hold the timing belt into position, preventing it from walking too far off the sprockets. Thanks!

@peugeotCitroen2CV 5 жыл бұрын

@@janghes There might have been a bit of play between the sprocket and the woodruf key that links it and the crankshaft.

@janghes 5 жыл бұрын

@@peugeotCitroen2CV Probably, yes. Thanks!

@yossiharush8786 3 жыл бұрын

I wanted to ask you. How much does it cost to have a timing belt changed? I don't thing I have the tools and knowledge to tackle it myself. How much do you think you can charge

@peugeotCitroen2CV 3 жыл бұрын

Yossi harush I think the going rate is about £200-300 Some mechanics may charge less some may charge more. There is about £100-150 in parts the rest is labour and overheads.

@yossiharush8786 3 жыл бұрын

@@peugeotCitroen2CV I'm from israel lol. So mechanic charging way more. Once I asked my stealership how much for the job and the gave a price of 1k in UK currency. Also most mechanics here don't know how to fiddle with renault so its a problem lol

@peugeotCitroen2CV 3 жыл бұрын

@@yossiharush8786 Ah of course a dealership will charge a fair price more than an independent mechanic, once the car is out of warranty there isn't much need to go back to dealers for repair work. Hopefully the video will help you to tackle the job yourself, if mechanics are charging that much it wont take long to offset the cost of any tools needed.

@yossiharush8786 3 жыл бұрын

@@peugeotCitroen2CV I wish the situation was easy as that. I'm just a teen and just started to change me own oil so I thing I'm don't have the experience for this job. But I made some calls the parts will be 100 and the labor is the tough part and will cost 300

@bbunce2007 4 жыл бұрын

Hi. Is this the same for a 57 plate Clio mk3 d4f 740? No aircon on this car so guess just a difference there?

@getur99 4 жыл бұрын

Yep just done my belt and pump today . I’ve got the d4f engine same as yours. Procedure is identical. Pretty manageable job, I’d say it took 3 hours with tea breaks

@peugeotCitroen2CV 4 жыл бұрын

Should be very similar, i have a video covering a 2011 Clio with the same engine its all close to the same process on the newer cars.

@lkhakhula 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you from Ukraine! Dacia Sandero 1.2 in the same way.

@peugeotCitroen2CV 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment, good to know this works on the sandero also!

@Darren-DJL-1 5 жыл бұрын

Another great video! Your attention to detail is fantastic in every video. Im also from Northern Ireland, which part are you from? Are you a mechanic by trade?

@peugeotCitroen2CV 5 жыл бұрын

Darren Lynch Hi Darren, thanks for the comment great to hear you are enjoying the videos. I live near Dungannon, what about yourself? I am not a mechanic by trade just picked it up living on the farm. My day job is a design engineer, these videos i try to do in my spare time.

@Darren-DJL-1 5 жыл бұрын

Been watching them for years, always really enjoy them, keep them coming! I'm from Drumahoe if you've ever heard of it, just outside Claudy. Ah very good, id say thats an interesting job, something different everyday.

@andrewclarke9467 5 жыл бұрын

Great video, love the details. Just bought my son one of these clios with 67,000 miles on the clock and no real service history. So gonna do his belt as preventive mentainance. Just 1 question though, is there any torque setting to any of the bolts and how do you know the tension is correct on the belt ? Cheers

@peugeotCitroen2CV 5 жыл бұрын

Andrew Clarke Andrew Clarke Hi Andrew There would indeee be torque figures for the bolts available in a haynes manual. I didn't have access to a haynes manual, from experience i have a feel of how tight they should be. However i would recommend buying a haynes manual and torque wrench if tackling this for the first time and are worried about snapping or under tightening bolts. As for the belt tension if you look at 22:30 you can see how the tensioner has a pointer that lines up in the middle of a slot.

@andrewclarke9467 5 жыл бұрын

@@peugeotCitroen2CV Hi thanks for the reply, thats great i will look at getting the haynes manual. I have all the tackle to do the job. Did my 3 series BMW last weekend timing chain and guides, Was a massive job. This looks like a walk in the park compared to that haha. Once again great video 👍

@peugeotCitroen2CV 5 жыл бұрын

@@andrewclarke9467 Fair play to you timing chains are a fair bit more involved than belts, this clio should indeed be a doddle. Is that the 2.0d with the chain at the bulkhead side of the engine?

@andrewclarke9467 5 жыл бұрын

@@peugeotCitroen2CV No its the 2.0l petrol and the chain is at the front. Seems easy untill you realise that the sump has to come off because the guides have shattered and sat in the sump which mean you have to drop the sub frame. And when you are Doing it on the flat with not post lifts its a pain. Any thats all a different story haha. Cheers for your info and replys. Subbed and like 👍

@meyou9126 4 жыл бұрын

Would this be much different for the 1.4 16v engine?

@peugeotCitroen2CV 4 жыл бұрын

The 1.4 i think is a slighlty different engine the 1.2 is the D-type engine, the 1.4 is a different engine family the K-type engines. Ive never worked on a 1.4 so cant say what differences there are but looking at pictures it would probably follow a similar process.

@Exilia4N 5 жыл бұрын

does this engine have air weight ??? i have 1.2 55kw and dont know it :( i don't have air weight after air box...its ok?

@peugeotCitroen2CV 5 жыл бұрын

I am not sure what an air weight is referring to

@fila1445 5 жыл бұрын

will you do some update on 305 ?

@peugeotCitroen2CV 5 жыл бұрын

It is currently in Hibernation, i keep it off the roads in the winter. It has a few bits of rust i would like to have welded up and sprayed which i might tackle myself. The GTX 305 i still plan on putting a D turbo engine into it however.

@FrankypankyV8 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your great video. But I can't help but think that it is a very stupid design. The huge amount of stuff which needed to be removed! That's why my next car will have a timing chain... Think of a Toyota Yaris. But, boy... Renault did a bad job here. I had a Renault Super Cinq once, which was a very simple car. Those days are gone, obviously!

@peugeotCitroen2CV 5 жыл бұрын

Hi Thanks for the comment. I don't really think its a stupid design, although I don't personally work on cars I am involved in the design of machines in my day job and trying to get a collection of components to fit within a set space is a challenge in itself. Having to remove a few extra parts to get to something is considered acceptable. In reality here, on the clio, the 3 (not a huge number) other components that had to be removed added no more than 30 minutes to the job over the MK2 clio I worked on in the past. No special tools are required to do this. Timing chains, in theory, are ok, provided they don't experience timing chain stretch issues or tensioner wear. My sister was driving a K12 Micra which had such issues the cost of replacing the timing chain was more than the value of the car. BMW 2.0 diesels from what I understand can give expensive chain related issues, and the PSA Prince engine which replaced the old belt driven TU engine is a headache. However if executed properly which I think Toyota does on the Yaris, and the car is well maintained with regular oil changes then the chain can be a reliable option.

@FrankypankyV8 5 жыл бұрын

@@peugeotCitroen2CV On the hindsight you mentioned some good points. Yes, Nissan did a terrible job with the timing chain of the Micra (apart from the fragile steering house). I just miss the simple way cars were designed. Thank you for your response and time!

@Andrea87rs 5 жыл бұрын

Hi, few days ago I screwed up with cambelt change in such engine. The belt has slipped away on the side of the pulley in the few sec. test run (for about 5 seconds was ok, then fastly run out on the side of pulley and slipped away). Do you think this may be because I didn't put back the accessories pulley on the crankshaft pulley? Only the bolt was in place.

@peugeotCitroen2CV 5 жыл бұрын

The crankshaft pulley for the auxillary belt should act as a retainer for the timing belt keeping it from spinning off.

@SuperWhiteBarry 4 жыл бұрын

@@peugeotCitroen2CV First of all, great video! Really helpful, considering the fact I am planning the same job on my Clio in the coming weeks. Can I ask you a few things? Why on earth are you using tap water in your cooling system? Demi-water I can live with to flush the system, but tap water? I mean isn't that a bad idea considering the fact it contains calcium? Aren't you afraid it will contaminate the cooling circuit? Also won't the water evaporate eventually? What brand of coolant are you using?

@peugeotCitroen2CV 4 жыл бұрын

@@SuperWhiteBarry Hi It is not 100% tap water in the coolant system, it is mixed with antifreeze/coolant which is designed to work with coolant. I assume that it has the necessary chemicals in it to prevent calcium buildup and other such issues. I have always mixed tap water with coolant in any cars ive worked on and never had any issues. Not sure on what brand, it is whatever my local motor factors stock. Just make sure not to mix different types of coolant, there is green, red, blue each with different chemcical compositions and mixing them can cause unwanted chemical reactions.

@SuperWhiteBarry 4 жыл бұрын

@@peugeotCitroen2CV Hey I did the job on the Clio yesterday, it was a real pain in the you know what, but I managed and learned a lot considering the fact it was my first Timingbelt change job! Also your video was very, very helpful once the job started. ;) The car runs great, it seems better on power and less sluggish, although I also cleaned the Throttle MAP Sensor and changed the spark plugs. I have only one minor issue. Sometimes I hear a squeaky sound for a second even a split-second and can not define what is it. It happens usually when reducing speed and going back on power, for instance going back to 2nd gear for a sharp corner and accelerating again. Also when putting it in reverse on the parking lot and getting on the gas, or from a standing start while being in the first gear. I did everything as the Haynes suggested and checked everything twice: work order and procedures, torque settings etc. literally everything. I also changed the auxiliary belt and pulley and tensioned it up properly: you can twist it maximum 90 degrees at the longest point. You have any ideas? Any help would be great!

@peugeotCitroen2CV 4 жыл бұрын

@@SuperWhiteBarry If you remove the auxillary belt and rotate the alternator, ac pump and tensioner is there any funny noises coming from them?

@pcsoundrecording347 3 жыл бұрын

how did you know that the car had the original belt?

@peugeotCitroen2CV 3 жыл бұрын

I believe it had the original belt, the old one still had some ink markings that said renault and there was no paperwork with the car to suggest it had been changed. You might also notice or not notice slight marks on bolts on an engine bay from when they are removed to do a cambelt job, if everything looks undisturbed it is another indication the belt is original. The rule of thumb is with a used car, if you have no record of a belt being changed it is best to do it as the cost of a new belt is a lot less than the cost to repair what happens if a belt snaps.

@pietjepuk4954 3 жыл бұрын

The water pipe behind the alternator and the ac pump bracket is a pain in the ass stupid fabrication work from renault

@peugeotCitroen2CV 3 жыл бұрын

Why is that, do you need to get to that pipe? What other way would you suggest mounting the pipe? Its a couple of parts to remove not the end of the world.