Resident Evil 4: 2007 Retro PC Time Capsule vs GameCube - A Horrific PC Port Revisited

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Жыл бұрын

It's Resident Evil 4 weekend on Digital Foundry! You've seen how good the remake is, we've extolled the virtues of the brilliant GameCube original, but what on Earth went wrong with the PC port back in the day? And what's the deal with the contentious PS2 port? Alex Battaglia and John Linneman have the story.
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@Omnifas
@Omnifas Жыл бұрын
The laser sight served a gameplay purpose too, the dot shows if it's a shootable object
@RufusM
@RufusM Жыл бұрын
Naw just cover that shit with yellow paint and you’re good /s
@clownworld1017
@clownworld1017 7 ай бұрын
Tf u talking about
@alanlee67
@alanlee67 4 ай бұрын
Yea. The remake handguns in general are just awful. The starting handgun has massive recoil...completely unrealistic and terrible from a gameplay perspective. I couldn't really stomach it.
@humpdaydaniel
@humpdaydaniel 28 күн бұрын
@@alanlee67The thing is with re remakes is they’re usually faithful in the locale but gameplay is very different. Leon is much more mobile in the remake so they balance it out with higher recoil so you don’t just run around mowing down enemies, it’s not for everyone but to me I’m very happy where they took it. Beat the original a while back and I love how they reimagined the gameplay loop.
@CasepbX
@CasepbX Жыл бұрын
The Resident Evil 4 HD Project really is incredible.
@MrSkinnyWhale
@MrSkinnyWhale Жыл бұрын
That's for the 2014 remaster though, which already improved a lot
@unsavourylittlerunt
@unsavourylittlerunt Жыл бұрын
​@@MrSkinnyWhale The mod doesn't use any of the HD textures included in that version, it was all based on the original textures as far as I know
@HugoStiglitz88
@HugoStiglitz88 Жыл бұрын
Best way to play the game. The remake isn't even the same game
@denisruskin348
@denisruskin348 Жыл бұрын
I'd say it's the best remaster of all times. And it was done by two dudes on top of that.
@alanlee67
@alanlee67 Жыл бұрын
Yup. Moreover it's better than any retail "remaster" available and it's free.
@snakeace0
@snakeace0 Жыл бұрын
I was one of the lucky ones that first played this on the gamecube at release. Back then the hype came from gaming magazines, and i just couldnt believe the printed screenshots. I remember just inviting friends over to witness these graphics. It was truly a next gen leap like no other for me.
@kicapanmanis1060
@kicapanmanis1060 Жыл бұрын
I played it on GC at release too. The hype for this game was unreal and the best part was that it lived up to that ridiculous hype and still considered a classic today. Hard to believe it had such a troubled developement.
@shaggymcdaniel3216
@shaggymcdaniel3216 Жыл бұрын
What about Mario 64?
@frapippo420
@frapippo420 Жыл бұрын
​@@kicapanmanis1060 well, the troubled development also spawned another beloved saga (Devil May Cry) and an horror cult classic (hunting grounds), so maybe it was worth it :)
@TylerMBuller12
@TylerMBuller12 Жыл бұрын
It still looks fantastic to this day Imo. Especially considering the time it dropped. Capcom have always had really good graphics in all the resident evil games.
@MrVoland44
@MrVoland44 Жыл бұрын
GC was really moster console. Shenmue tbh was more nextgen, consindering it came out 6 years before RE4
@Glotttis
@Glotttis Жыл бұрын
You know that infamous 2007 PC port messed up entire generation of gamers when it's still being talked about to this day.
@telefrag.
@telefrag. Жыл бұрын
Devil May Cry 3 was another infamous offender from those days. It was insane how instant classics of PS2 were brutalized when they were ported to PC.
@lpnp9477
@lpnp9477 Жыл бұрын
Thank God we have those classics available with good native pc ports now aside from onimusha
@VergilHiltsLT
@VergilHiltsLT Жыл бұрын
​​@@lpnp9477 Devil May Cry 3 HD is still downgraded from PS2, but miles better than the original SourceNext port. RE4 was ported by the same dev team BTW. Even MGS2 and MGS3 received downgrades on PS3, X360 and 3DS.
@lpnp9477
@lpnp9477 Жыл бұрын
@@VergilHiltsLT eh, i wouldn't know. I've only played the pc and Xbox 360 versions of 3. Obviously the sourcenext version was garbage but the version on steam was excellent. What was lost from the ps2 version?
@panterxbeats
@panterxbeats Жыл бұрын
​@@lpnp9477 just look up devil may cry 3 hd analysis. they messed up a lot of effects and even Dante's hair in the hd version. it's a decent port, but it's one of those games that feels best to play on original hardware on a CRT. DMC1 even more so because they messed up the sound and a loooot of visuals... even RE1 remake HD version has audio issues (sped up tracks, etc)
@FR4M3Sharma
@FR4M3Sharma Жыл бұрын
Should've also included the 2014 "HD Remaster" version in this, just to see what they actually "upgraded" in it.
@thaddayyus
@thaddayyus 2 ай бұрын
the 2014 hd remaster is only a little bit better. its based of the xbox 360/ps3 versions, but yet the keyboard and mouse controls are screwed up. fortunately, re4 tweaks helps
@DeGLITCH
@DeGLITCH Жыл бұрын
John is right, the laser sight aiming was nice. By the way the Resident Evil games on Nintendo 3DS (Revelations and Mercenaries 3D) also used the RE4 laser sight. Sadly every subsequent port of RE: Revelations replaced the lasers with standard crossairs.
@ActNasty5
@ActNasty5 Жыл бұрын
I find myself wanting to use the punisher over the red 9 just so i can use the laser sight lol
@dun0790
@dun0790 Жыл бұрын
Im pretty sure you can use them in the switch ports of revelations 1 or 2 you just have to go through the menu's?
@frapippo420
@frapippo420 Жыл бұрын
​@@ActNasty5 the more frustrating is the Blacktail, given that it's a modern pistol and also the 3D model clearly has an accessory rail under the barrel!! 😅
@leftyfourguns
@leftyfourguns Жыл бұрын
In original RE4 projectiles spawned from the gun, which is why they need a laser pointer in the first place. In the remake projectiles spawn from the center of the screen like most shooters do. So even when you can use a laser sight it's cosmetic. Bullets always go to the center of the screen
@syphonunfiltered
@syphonunfiltered Жыл бұрын
@@leftyfourguns interesting, do you have a link that talks more about why it's done that way nowadays?
@victoralvarez9459
@victoralvarez9459 Жыл бұрын
The lighting on the GameCube is just incredible
@Clay3613
@Clay3613 Жыл бұрын
Well obviously vs fullbright and no shadows.
@znub206
@znub206 Жыл бұрын
Lol "Lighting".
@jhkuno88
@jhkuno88 8 ай бұрын
Its more the shading than the lighting...GC could do pretty great shading..lightin not so much
@maksim12233
@maksim12233 5 ай бұрын
@@jhkuno88 lighting on gamecube version is better then on ps2 pc
@maksim12233
@maksim12233 5 ай бұрын
@@jhkuno88 pc can do this shading? or ps2?
@CheapeOne
@CheapeOne Жыл бұрын
"transparent-esque" you could say it's _clearly_ wrong
@DigitalFoundry
@DigitalFoundry Жыл бұрын
Amazing pun
@lowserver2
@lowserver2 Жыл бұрын
@@DigitalFoundry do a video on the re4 hd project 😮
@MrSpineduke
@MrSpineduke Жыл бұрын
Just hearing Alex crack up so many times at the PC version made the video for me. Hilarious stuff
@pobbityboppity1110
@pobbityboppity1110 Жыл бұрын
Alex losing it around the 20 minute mark lmao
@JaniceRav
@JaniceRav Жыл бұрын
I guess I'm one of the few people who actually cleared the 2007 version using keyboard only; I've played that version so many times until it became a muscle memory.
@bikechan9903
@bikechan9903 Жыл бұрын
Hello kindred spirit. I'm the other person that finished the 2007 version with keyboard
@dogan3642
@dogan3642 Жыл бұрын
so glad im not the only one 🤣
@gerooo9095
@gerooo9095 Жыл бұрын
My first time with re4 was also PC 1.0 with keyboard
@KalinkaChan
@KalinkaChan Жыл бұрын
I was really sad when I found out that the newer steam version does not have the keyboard controls! I can still remember the control scheme after all these years because it's just so different than any other games even at that era
@grindycore3438
@grindycore3438 Жыл бұрын
My first introduction to RE4 was with this PC port,used to play at those PC clubs where you pay to play. So the owner of that place in my town finished this version of the game,all the kids used to gather around him and just watch,was so much fun lol.
@codname125
@codname125 Жыл бұрын
17:15 RE6 actually uses both a reticle and a laser, but you can buy a skill, which can be unlocked very early in the game that turns off the reticle and leaves you with only the laser like in RE4 and 5 with extra damage on top.
@FoxDie77777
@FoxDie77777 Жыл бұрын
I remmember that on the menu you can choose to use the reticle or the laser sight
@codname125
@codname125 Жыл бұрын
@@FoxDie77777 ohh I never saw that option, have to check it out. I only remember that there was a skill that disables the reticle and only leaves the laser for added damage.
@ClericOdie
@ClericOdie Жыл бұрын
Poor John clearly didn't find the option either. 😅 I get where he's coming from, but the laser sight on ALL of the guns doesn't really make sense. At least not with the older style ones.
@cratoic1603
@cratoic1603 Жыл бұрын
​@codname125 Yeah, I recently picked up RE6, and in that mobile phone options menu (lol), there's an option to change it to the classic laser pointer
@Roooobb
@Roooobb Жыл бұрын
I haven't played so potentially F me, but it sounds like the laser is not diagetic in REm4ke, where as the original had the laser coming from the gun itself.
@PKDeviluke25
@PKDeviluke25 Жыл бұрын
You guys need to do a video on the PC HD Mod, it is an amazing glow up for the original game.
@Deliveredmean42
@Deliveredmean42 Жыл бұрын
And they did mention it at the end of the resident evil 4 remake review.
@user-ik8vy1rg8f
@user-ik8vy1rg8f Жыл бұрын
@@Deliveredmean42 Hopefully the devs also take note of his red laser pointer request!
@PKDeviluke25
@PKDeviluke25 Жыл бұрын
@@user-ik8vy1rg8f The Laser Pointer is in the game, its an attachment though that only fits on 2 or 3 pistols though.
@Jeffdraws101
@Jeffdraws101 Жыл бұрын
PC allows us to just pick a version we like. If I wanted to play the OG game I’d just emulate the GameCube with some enhancements.
@MrVoland44
@MrVoland44 Жыл бұрын
@@user-ik8vy1rg8f i feel he would be forced just to make mod. again
@moosemaimer
@moosemaimer Жыл бұрын
That PC gamepad from the tutorial looks like one of those budget 3rd-party sticks you'd find on the bottom shelf at a Wal-Mart or something, next to the $5 shovelware. I bet it would work great for Big Rigs.
@DKZK21
@DKZK21 Жыл бұрын
One thing I'd like to mention that I don't think was brought up at all (sorry if I missed it) is that the PS2 version also came with Progressive Scan for 480p output on TVs that could support it, and it honestly made a significant difference on the few CRT TVs that did, as well as early HDTVs.
@jsr734
@jsr734 Жыл бұрын
also Anamorphic Widescreen support unlike the Gamecube´s original letterboxed widescreen presentation.
@barebarekun161
@barebarekun161 Жыл бұрын
Yes on OPL you can forced 480p via GSM settings and the game looked a lot cleaner that way compared to hazy blurry 480i or default 480p. I even tried forced 1080i once and its not bad at all.
@SE-fq4gf
@SE-fq4gf Жыл бұрын
​@@mickeman3967 So did GameCube it was separate ways that was a PS2 exclusive mode.
@LongSinceDead1
@LongSinceDead1 Жыл бұрын
PS2 version still looks worse overall, what with it's low quality textures and simplified geometry. The GC version on a CRT or with a component cable still looks vastly better than the PS2 version running in Progressive Scan.
@SeiyaDLuffy
@SeiyaDLuffy Жыл бұрын
​@@mickeman3967 the ps2 got separate ways, mercenaries was on gamecube too
@aninfinitemindofmusicandreams
@aninfinitemindofmusicandreams Жыл бұрын
Never played the botched PC port. This was from a time where PC ports were very hit or miss, especially from Japanese companies. But playing the HD re-release and then the Remake back to back really puts into perspective how far game visuals have come. It's also impressive that the OG version, still looks great and timeless in a way a lot of the best 6th gen games do.
@Bristecom
@Bristecom Жыл бұрын
Yeah, PC ports finally got good in the 2010's on Steam.
@groidcel
@groidcel Жыл бұрын
RE4 was ported to the PC by Ubishit.
@sinnohen
@sinnohen Жыл бұрын
@@groidcel Nope, they just published it. The port was made by Sourcenext.
@MrVoland44
@MrVoland44 Жыл бұрын
@@groidcel at wasnt ported by Ubisoft. also Ubisoft actually had much better PC ports in 00's
@groidcel
@groidcel Жыл бұрын
@@MrVoland44 goyslop
@DeadPixel1105
@DeadPixel1105 Жыл бұрын
30:04 The reload animations in classic RE 4 never get old. So satisfying.
@izhanshafiq324
@izhanshafiq324 Жыл бұрын
There was an official patch v1.10 that restored most of the shaders from the PS2 version which made a lot of difference and brought back effects, it was still not as good as the Gamecube
@izhanshafiq324
@izhanshafiq324 Жыл бұрын
Also a mod to get GameCube textures on PC which made a lot of difference and that texture mod required v1.10
@iwinulose2460
@iwinulose2460 Жыл бұрын
they mention that 47:06
@izhanshafiq324
@izhanshafiq324 Жыл бұрын
@@iwinulose2460 I was only half way through the video and had not reached that mark yet.
@Clay3613
@Clay3613 Жыл бұрын
Apparently no longer works though.
@HasanAkdogan
@HasanAkdogan Жыл бұрын
From 23:02 to 23:16 video footages were swapped/mislabeled vice versa. At first I thought when leon got inside the house, the color grade of both versions changed but that wasn’t the case.
@itsd0nk
@itsd0nk Жыл бұрын
I was looking to see if anyone else pointed that out
@sirmi9868
@sirmi9868 Жыл бұрын
Game Cube Version was the Goat
@digitizemecapn
@digitizemecapn Жыл бұрын
The original game had a certain edge and charm to it that can't be replicated, it was authentic. Not bashing on the remake at all, I'm playing it currently and very much enjoying it. Leon looks so badass in the original. Tired-eyed, like he'd seen some real shit yet kept his cool.
@DeadendSatellite
@DeadendSatellite Жыл бұрын
I played through that entire pc port with nothing but a re mapped keyboard and still wasn't the worst port I've played.
@daanyal6266
@daanyal6266 Жыл бұрын
That "Made Up Controller" actually is a real thing! I don´t remember where we got it from but i remember having this as a child.
@offspringfan89
@offspringfan89 Жыл бұрын
@@mickeman3967 It's a crappy generic model, I had two of those and it was a PITA to make games detect them.
@baguete02
@baguete02 Жыл бұрын
@@mickeman3967 I had this controller back at the day but It was from GC only and had GC face buttons, the funny thing this controller had a ventilation system wich keep your hands always dry.
@daanyal6266
@daanyal6266 Жыл бұрын
@@mickeman3967 I actually found a controller with this exact same layout. It's not exactly the one in the video (that i also used to have), but it has 100% exactly the same layout. Just look for "Old EA Sports PS2 Controller".
@gingerd2098
@gingerd2098 Жыл бұрын
The GameCube version blew us away at the time. That must partially be the reason as to why Nintendo no longer strives for the best hardware. The PS2 ran train on that ass during this generation.
@sethross7217
@sethross7217 Жыл бұрын
Yes! The GameCube was the last great console from Nintendo IMO. Powerful hardware, exclusive deals on resident evil and metal gear remake plus the usual first party and still undersold. Shame!
@Drilbit
@Drilbit Жыл бұрын
@@sethross7217 Yeah because PS2 sold off being a dvd player alone, i mean it was a wise choice to move away from trying to directly compete with sony considering how successful the wii ended up being.
@mdluk199
@mdluk199 Жыл бұрын
The PS2 was older hardware but still has the best library of games bar none. And that's what really counts
@sethross7217
@sethross7217 Жыл бұрын
@@mdluk199 this is true.
@Cl04d
@Cl04d 5 ай бұрын
Xbox had the best hardware..Period.
@Eigengrau608
@Eigengrau608 Жыл бұрын
The PC version is how I imagined the PS2 version might look, yet the PS2 version seems to maintain a lot of the original NGC art style. I think it is more crazy that they have clearly rerendered all the cutscene videos using the PC assets.
@Clay3613
@Clay3613 Жыл бұрын
PS2 had MGS2, SH2 and Gran Turismo. It was a powerhouse.
@Eigengrau608
@Eigengrau608 Жыл бұрын
@@Clay3613 Believe me, I own a lot of PS2 games aha.
@tHeWasTeDYouTh
@tHeWasTeDYouTh Жыл бұрын
"Sourcenext were also responsible for developing the infamous Resident Evil 4 2007 PC Port and despite popular claims, Ubisoft were only responsible for publishing the game in the west and were not involved in its original development. Initially when the game was first released on PC; it lacked any lighting at all and a patch was released later on that fixed the issue, bringing lighting back into the game" from RE wiki.
@lsramonr
@lsramonr Жыл бұрын
I never played the GameCube version, at that time I could only get the PS2 one and I loved it. After that I had the chance to play other versions (360, Wii, PS4, Switch) and the Wii edition is my favorite of all (the use of the Wiimote was awesome). Still, I want to try the GameCube one, it looks awesome
@OrtadragoonX
@OrtadragoonX Жыл бұрын
I got the GameCube version on launch day. Two fantastic mini-DVDs.
@lsramonr
@lsramonr Жыл бұрын
@@OrtadragoonX awesome!!
@gauwoof
@gauwoof Жыл бұрын
I’m so glad I had it for Game Cube. It was a blast!
@RikoFlex67
@RikoFlex67 Жыл бұрын
Gamcecubes swansong
@shanekelley3064
@shanekelley3064 Жыл бұрын
Dolphin emulator, GameCube controller adapter, and Nvidia stereoscopic 3d vision. That's the way I played this game last. It was incredible...
@barebarekun161
@barebarekun161 Жыл бұрын
Same I cranked it to 4K plus all the enhancements it was bliss. Still mess around with rapid fire cheat the other day.
@Clay3613
@Clay3613 Жыл бұрын
Missing content though.
@barebarekun161
@barebarekun161 Жыл бұрын
@@Clay3613 Dolphin also can play Wii edition as well so on Dolphin you won't missed any missing content.
@victorfadel06
@victorfadel06 Жыл бұрын
Well, this PC port later received a patch that restored all the lightning, and looked even better than PS2 cuz it didn't have audio compression and low polygon enemies in larger amounts.
@alexdrad4994
@alexdrad4994 Жыл бұрын
No it didn't. I remember trying to play with the patch and it still looked absolutely awful and fullbright. They only restored some lighting.
@swroof1983
@swroof1983 Жыл бұрын
There was actually a community made patch that improved the PC version. I remember it had a cinematic patch and a ENB bloom mod along with some texture mods.
@gamemeng
@gamemeng Жыл бұрын
Gotta appreciate the floating hat at 25:43 in the PC version. The good stuff.
@deus_nsf
@deus_nsf Жыл бұрын
Your timestamp is a little off but I had a good laugh thanks for that!
@RE4-Station
@RE4-Station Жыл бұрын
25:38 is more accurate
@Case_
@Case_ Жыл бұрын
(If you notice, it's not really floating, though, it gets stuck in the roof. Funny nevertheless :) )
@ShareAMeal77
@ShareAMeal77 3 ай бұрын
​@@Case_ The hat's owner was very surprised.
@raresmacovei8382
@raresmacovei8382 Жыл бұрын
There should be another video either now or during summer with the HD Project
@shrekrealista5045
@shrekrealista5045 Жыл бұрын
It's autumn here
@uncleurda8101
@uncleurda8101 Жыл бұрын
@@shrekrealista5045 rip shrek
@WAGLB
@WAGLB Жыл бұрын
Agree, would be nice
@santichulito
@santichulito Жыл бұрын
yeah, the HD project is by far the best version for pc, very faithfull to the gamecube ver, and it's not even capcom's work lol
@linhza501
@linhza501 Жыл бұрын
Those were really dark days of PC ports. It truly felt like some devs just did not care and treat PC gaming as bottom tier trash.
@Dreadpirateflappy
@Dreadpirateflappy Жыл бұрын
look at the port of TLOU... we still have the dark days of PC ports at times.
@sebastiangonzales46
@sebastiangonzales46 Жыл бұрын
@@Dreadpirateflappy and that's not even the worst port so far which says something on modern pc ports
@FallenOne3
@FallenOne3 Жыл бұрын
This pc version was the first version of RE4 that I played. I've finished this version playing only with the keyboard, seeing Alex shooting with the enter key gave me horrible flashbacks, what a great game though.
@AStarkSnow
@AStarkSnow Жыл бұрын
That PC port was my introduction to Resident Evil. I played through it using keyboard, because I didn't own any pc gamepad at the time.
@SHGames97
@SHGames97 10 ай бұрын
You’re a hero, it is definitely a game worth playing keyboard only if one has too.
@illogicalbobcat8365
@illogicalbobcat8365 Жыл бұрын
That PC controller is the one MadCatz left at the doorstep of a church because they refused to claim parentage...
@MitchKarajohn
@MitchKarajohn Жыл бұрын
You should do GameCube VS the latest Steam release using the finished RE4HD mod. That'd be interesting as well
@FlipFlopGod
@FlipFlopGod Жыл бұрын
Eh I think this is a cased closed. But good mod tho
@MerolaC
@MerolaC Жыл бұрын
They did a dedicated video for the mod. Look it up.
@MitchKarajohn
@MitchKarajohn Жыл бұрын
@@MerolaC in it's finished form? I think it was quite a few years back, but maybe I remember wrong
@jonRock
@jonRock Жыл бұрын
That would be amazing. Have Alex on a modern PC @4k with the mod installed, and then John could be playing the GameCube version on the Dolphin emulator at 4k.
@MerolaC
@MerolaC Жыл бұрын
@@MitchKarajohn I was confused. They didn't do it. It was "El Analista de Bits" channel that did it.
@MicahtheDrumCorpsPseudoboomer
@MicahtheDrumCorpsPseudoboomer Жыл бұрын
Keep these PC Time Capsules coming!
@massivepileup
@massivepileup Жыл бұрын
I remember plenty of PC versions at the time having trouble with overlapping alpha transparencies. The fixed function pipelines of the PS2 and Gamecube had no problems with that but even emulators of those systems often mess that up. Playing e.g. R-Type Final on pcsx2 would have some delta attacks obscure the whole screen instead of being properly transparent. I thonk that may have been fixed only recently?
@rg975
@rg975 Жыл бұрын
This is so nostalgic for me. I bought this back in 2007 for PC, since I had RE4 on GameCube but missed out on the extra DLC in the Ps2 version. Not only was it a pain to set up and get running, but it forced 13 year old me to buy my first PC game pad because the PC version did NOT support mouse and keyboard. What a horrible experience 😂
@PlasticCogLiquid
@PlasticCogLiquid Жыл бұрын
I played Silent Hill the first time on Bleem with the gamepad that came with the PC version of Megaman X, it didn't have enough buttons so I had to map things like Start and Select to Shift/Enter. I played through the whole game that way back in the 90's and when I finally played SH1 on my PS2 with a proper controller sometime in the future it was so much better :P
@Phreno_Xeno
@Phreno_Xeno Жыл бұрын
Played this on the PS2 back in the day. First game I played that I'd love dying to. The chainsaw decapitation was gloriously gory.
@ZackSNetwork
@ZackSNetwork Жыл бұрын
Ouch you played the worse version.
@TurboXray
@TurboXray Жыл бұрын
@@Phreno_Xeno Nah, Zack's right. Ouch indeed.
@mdluk199
@mdluk199 Жыл бұрын
The PS2 version is actually great and my favourite version
@TurboXray
@TurboXray Жыл бұрын
@@mdluk199 PS2 version is OK. GC version is better in so many ways. I played both back in the day.
@callumdointhings5
@callumdointhings5 Жыл бұрын
​@@mdluk199 did you even watch this video lol
@TonyGearSolid
@TonyGearSolid Жыл бұрын
I'm kind of surprised that you guys didn't touch on the recent HD fan mod, if only very briefly.
@Canadian_Gamer
@Canadian_Gamer Жыл бұрын
Now this is the RE4 we all know and love.
@FelixS.
@FelixS. Жыл бұрын
@GameFrame It’s a masterpiece and your subjective opinion doesn’t change this fact.
@maxwallach47
@maxwallach47 Жыл бұрын
​@GameFrame it's still amazing, especially the VR and hd project versions.
@DuckAlertBeats
@DuckAlertBeats Жыл бұрын
​@GameFrame 😅😂
@jackjax7921
@jackjax7921 Жыл бұрын
@@FelixS. its overrated. And your dickriding Re 4 skills doesnt change the fact its overrated.
@randalthor6872
@randalthor6872 Жыл бұрын
@GameFrame we need reeducation camps because of you!!!!!!! (just kiddin, bud)
@felisasininus1784
@felisasininus1784 Жыл бұрын
RE6 has an in-game option to switch to laser sight from crosshair. Same goes for Revelations 2. REmake 4 also has a few weapons that do have laser, namely, some pistols and the Terminator magnum.
@razielgrave224
@razielgrave224 Жыл бұрын
Holy crap, q6600 and 8800gt, that was my exact setup back in the day.
@mariokostadinov988
@mariokostadinov988 Жыл бұрын
The hardware I had at the time made Crisis look just like RE4 :D
@ScozzWasTaken
@ScozzWasTaken Жыл бұрын
John's mix of bewilderment and rage upon finding out that the port doesn't support a mouse absolutely sent me
@RikoFlex67
@RikoFlex67 Жыл бұрын
That intro with the spanish music will be forever ingrained in my memories
@TheSciFiCat
@TheSciFiCat Жыл бұрын
It is also worth mentioning that if the PS2 is connected using Component cables, by holding "Triangle+Ex" after the "Playtation2" boot logo the game would load progressive scan mode at 480p. The game looks sharper and runs smoother on this mode.
@8Paul7
@8Paul7 Жыл бұрын
I actually finished this version back in the day, although with the patch that restored the lighting. If I remember correctly it was also locked to 30fps? Just horrible.
@onepiece190993
@onepiece190993 Жыл бұрын
Cant get enough of this relax comparison videos
@tottycapsgg
@tottycapsgg Жыл бұрын
Alex cracking up at the trees just before the villiage cracked me up bigtime, thank you guys haha
@mathesar
@mathesar Жыл бұрын
Just realized the red laser beam from Leons gun is missing from the RE4 Remake.
@mathesar
@mathesar Жыл бұрын
@HUNK Oh nice I wonder why they also commented on it in this video about it missing. Either way thats awesome if true I just recently started playing the remake.
@stevebob240
@stevebob240 Жыл бұрын
@@mathesar This was recorded before the REmake came out
@mathesar
@mathesar Жыл бұрын
​@@stevebob240 they mention playing the remake several times in this video and comment on some of the changes vs original RE4
@CLabmusic
@CLabmusic Жыл бұрын
No mention of the 2014 PC port? I love that version of the game.
@MKR3238
@MKR3238 Жыл бұрын
they did a video about it and a comparison
@DarkShinobu
@DarkShinobu Жыл бұрын
It was a shame that the 07 port used the ps2 version as base instead of the Gamecube one, we had to wait until 2014 for a "better" port but that one also had some issues at release, some shaders were missing and the 60fps broke some animations and enemy spawns, etc...
@foxsteam
@foxsteam Жыл бұрын
I guess it's easier since Saparate Ways already in it?. I mean they may get hard time porting Saparate Ways in it so they decided to use Ps2 as a base. Ps2 also downgraded model and polygon for good performance I guess?.
@iPlaySEGA
@iPlaySEGA Жыл бұрын
The "MATRIX CAR" at 3:59 Killed me! XD
@matsui90
@matsui90 Жыл бұрын
Where is the sound effect at 18:19 from? Been hearing it for years and it bugs me I don't know its origin :)
@matsui90
@matsui90 Жыл бұрын
@@dualpapayas my hero
@Yodagamer1
@Yodagamer1 Жыл бұрын
The laser sight actually came back for the 3ds version of re revelations, but got rid of it from the hd version.
@Orain88
@Orain88 Жыл бұрын
You can unlock a laser sight in RE4 remake, but it behaves weirdly. It's like the sight's origin is coming from the center of the screen and extends back towards the players gun instead of coming from the gun itself. The result is a little awkward looking as the laser wobbles in and out if alignment with the gun since the dot has to stay perfectly center screen like the cross reticle does. I wish they did what the Dead Space sequels and Remake did where you could chose either a proper laser aiming system or a center screen cross hair.
@hansolo6831
@hansolo6831 Жыл бұрын
Love these videos!
@Nightmare78hAlo
@Nightmare78hAlo Жыл бұрын
These first port attempts by Capcom were so ungodly bad but they did do a sharp improvement in their port jobs with the following generation, DMC4 and RE5 PC versions were pretty good and nowadays Capcom's PC versions are some of the best with just some small quirks, the current RE4 Remake on PC runs really well while looking fantastic, even almost fully avoided the horrid traversal/load stutter that every new triple A game seem to be plagued by, i say almost fully cause in my 10 hours i did have like 4 or 5 times where i experience one but that is nothing compared to like the recent Dead Space Remake which had so much more which were easily replicated. It's a good move that Capcom went back on their "promise" of forever exclusivity of RE4 on GC, otherwise a ton of people would've never had the chance to experience it because the GC sold almost nothing when compared to the PS2. The GC also had such a tiny market control in some places, where i grew up i never met a single person or even saw a single shop selling GCs, only PS2s during that whole generation, it just had 0 presence in Southern Europe and Balkans.
@hohohodrigues
@hohohodrigues Жыл бұрын
As a kid, i couldn't play the game, first, i would crap my pants just at the PS2 boot, second, just hearing the chainsaw coming i would just turn off the console right away. The first time I "played" it was with my parents. He had so much fun playing it, every night we would play resident evil 4. This game is such a big part of my life.
@turbochop3300
@turbochop3300 Жыл бұрын
How did you handle the regenerators?
@hohohodrigues
@hohohodrigues Жыл бұрын
@@turbochop3300 i didn't lol, my dad played through that part and we would always joke that he breathes just like me.
@mrbobajango7482
@mrbobajango7482 Жыл бұрын
Does anyone know what game the music is from that's being used in the video? Ty
@thatssomegoodpie
@thatssomegoodpie Жыл бұрын
Have only ever played the PS2 version and I had a great experience with it. Great port.
@PetrCobra
@PetrCobra Жыл бұрын
Sure, similar to the SNES version of DOOM being a great experience as well if you only owned a SNES
@thatssomegoodpie
@thatssomegoodpie Жыл бұрын
@@PetrCobra Nah, that's in a whole league of its own. RE4 on PS2 is a respectable port. It's not obviously not meant to run on a ps2 like DOOM is not meant to run on SNES.
@RKOJERR
@RKOJERR Жыл бұрын
You guys are the best when it comes to tech analysis. Great job!
@AlexLeschinsky
@AlexLeschinsky Жыл бұрын
A great video! Would be fun to warch a Time Capsule of first Mafia's port for PS2 :D
@kaptenteo
@kaptenteo Жыл бұрын
Amazing video. Thank you!
@realbadtech9318
@realbadtech9318 Жыл бұрын
Having spent my childhood playing RE1-3 on repeat over and over again on PS1, I was so mad when RE4 dropped for GameCube exclusively that I waited for the PS2 release. All these years later I didn’t realize just how bad my experience was on PS2 vs GC…
@mdluk199
@mdluk199 Жыл бұрын
The PS2 version is not bad at all
@mdluk199
@mdluk199 Жыл бұрын
The PS2 version is not at all bad. And the Dualshock controller suited Resi better
@realbadtech9318
@realbadtech9318 Жыл бұрын
@@mdluk199 Yeah I just distinctly remember the dead trees everywhere and didn't even realize how much nicer the environments look on GC until now
@kierenbuckley370
@kierenbuckley370 Жыл бұрын
i experienced RE 4 on Playstation 2 wasn't the best place to play it at the time but oh well
@dapaintbrush6965
@dapaintbrush6965 Жыл бұрын
I only ever played the gamecube version a hand full of times. But I manly played the PS2 version and didn't even notice and diffrance 🤣🤣 but the remastered versions for xbox and PS are great
@angeles2425
@angeles2425 Жыл бұрын
Are you running the game cube version in progressive scan? It looks interlaced.
@cgeyik
@cgeyik Жыл бұрын
Has the official 1.01 patch been applied to the PC version? I don't see anything about that in the vid.
@cgeyik
@cgeyik Жыл бұрын
@@gerboog probably missed it then. Got bored after a while. They didn't manage to install it. The patch fixed everything they mentioned.
@netoeli
@netoeli Жыл бұрын
thanks for using the actual consoles and recording the output , compared to using emulators on a PC. The emulators totally change the feel of the game.
@Blitterbug
@Blitterbug Жыл бұрын
My main takehome from this: Alex once played a console and didn't throw up!
@blunderingfool
@blunderingfool 8 ай бұрын
I distinctly remember playing the 06 port up to either the lift room or the salazar fight where upon it would crash. Patched fixed the crashing but then it would run even worse on my grandma's laptop because of the increased demands of having the lighting system and fog working. XD
@neonfatum
@neonfatum Жыл бұрын
The PS2 version is the one I played first. Was a bit disappointed when I found out about the visual downgrades, but the game is fantastic and looks great regardless. I think they probably could've done even better and gotten closer to the GC version if they had taken more time. Since it did release within the same year it might've been a rather rushed port, although if so it's a pretty good one.
@Wol1427
@Wol1427 Жыл бұрын
The PS2 version made up for the visual downgrade by having more content.
@jsr734
@jsr734 Жыл бұрын
@@Wol1427 Actually, in some aspects the Ps2 version has anamorphic widescreen vs letterboxed widescreen in the Gamecube version and it renders at slighty higher res 640x448 vs 640x360 in Gamecube.
@kobra6660
@kobra6660 Жыл бұрын
Poor gamecube didn't get the attention it deserved technically it was more powerful than the ps2
@link0039
@link0039 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Unfortunately you didn't save Hewie and thereby missed a perfect opportunity to mention Haunting Ground - maybe one of the best forgotten Gems ever to be released.
@GTRussell
@GTRussell Жыл бұрын
Every part of this video is ace, but Alex laughing and cracking up so often has made my day.
@Gggmanlives
@Gggmanlives Жыл бұрын
This is the shit I sub for.
@colinmx.
@colinmx. Жыл бұрын
Major difference between every version.
@khoatrieudinh7596
@khoatrieudinh7596 Жыл бұрын
fun fact, the US retail version of the 2007 port is actually ships pre-patched, the lighting and color grading is def better but the opaque loot drop + laser sight, and wrong shading are still there
@DfactorLongplays
@DfactorLongplays Жыл бұрын
Believe it or not, but Resident Evil 6 still has laser sight and you can switch to it at any time, it's just that the game defaults to crosshair aim.
@easter3000
@easter3000 Жыл бұрын
Played entire game with friend on PC in 2007 on keyboard. We were so intrigued by this game, so all technical problems and even awful controls didn't scare us off. I fondly remember that hot summer.
@EEVOL
@EEVOL Жыл бұрын
Please do a complete playthrough! I am interested in seeing what the rest of the game looks like. This is pretty entertaining!
@Arcadius100
@Arcadius100 Жыл бұрын
The PC port looks like some of those very early software PC ports of PS1 games, with no hardware acceleration whatsoever, where you got a token higher resolution but lost half of the graphics effects and ended up with something that looked far worse overall...
@CJ_Williams
@CJ_Williams Жыл бұрын
Great video and great old school Hitman background music. Love the classics 😅
@ViperAcidZX
@ViperAcidZX Жыл бұрын
At the risk of sound like an apologist for this mess of a PC port, there are some things I need to bring up regard the information being shown to viewers... 1. 12:55 - If you have the game installed on the PC, you should be able to use the SetupTool it comes with to configure the controls with a built-in profile for Xbox 360 (or many XInput controllers) controllers easily though you may have to assign the camera movement under the Camera section of the Gamepad settings in the configuration tool. Also some Doom players can play the game with just the keyboard, even in the full game and mods. 2. 19:43 - Believe it or not, that controller actually did exist and was only released in Japan as far as I'm aware. The controller being ridiculed on the video is an Elecom JC-U1012F and it is a controller that has been adverted as supported in a couple of PC ports of Capcom's other games such as Rockman X8 and Chaos Legion in Japan during that era. It is a 12-button PC gamepad that works of USB 1.1 with similar buttons to a DualShock 2 but with an added "Auto" (possibly Turbo) functionality with a "Clear" button to remove Auto mode on the assigned button, and a Mode switch button for toggling Analog and Digital modes like a DualShock controller on a PlayStation 1 or 2 system. There were also three colors of this controller: Blue, Silver, and Black like one shown in the SourceNext port of resident evil 4. if you look up the model number of this Elecom controller on Google or other search engines, you can still find Elecom's website for this controller and it is still viewable today as of writing. I'm honestly curious about this controller since I would like to try this one out for older PC games I own and have access to. 3. 21:16 - The scope blurring effects was restored in the v1.1.0 of this port, but for some reason the current Steam port by Q-LOC is missing these scope blurring effects entirely and was never officially patched in. 4. 49:43 - That's not a new problem exclusive to the 2007 SourceNext port. The GameCube and PS2 version did this too if you wanted to back out to the game's title screen, and pretty much every port since then did that if you wanted to return to the title screen, however, the Steam port after a later update made it much more oblivious where's the "Quit to Title Screen" menu option is. The exit confirmation pop-up dialog window in the 2007 SourceNext port when trying to quit to desktop via the title screen or Alt+F4 is pretty stupid, not gonna lie. 5. 50:44 - You can get something similar on the 2017 Steam port thanks to re4_tweaks (included with HD Project but can also be used on its own without it) since it removes the extra added deadzone for that version on PC. After using re4_tweaks on the Steam port, it makes the controls feels much better and just as I remembered on the original GameCube version with something like an Xbox One or Xbox Series controller. 6. 51:02 - Again, re4_tweaks and setting the control style to "Modern" with some sensitivity adjustments in the control settings of the Steam port are your friends for make the mouse controls in that version much better. 7. 51:54 - See Point No. 2 again and Google "Elecom JC-U1012F", it existed. 8. 55:06 - The SourceNext ports of Biohazard 2 and Biohazard 3: Last Escape, while not flawless either, are actually improved compared to their earlier in-house PC ports by Capcom, which included better Windows XP or newer compatibility and more surprising the highest quality uncompressed FMV videos running at smoother frame-rates. These ports also have a fan-made plug-in that makes it not only playable in English but also features a host of compatibility and bug fixes, modern controller support, and a few other quality-of-life improvements. 9. 47:05 - You got the wrong patch for your region of the game. Going by the "Biohazard" logo being shown in the FMV after the village attack on your copy of the game, Alex, you most likely had either an Asian/Japanese or Korean release of the SourceNext port and you were trying to use a patch made specifically for the European region release. The only known v1.1.0 patches for the SourceNext port that I can think of that are available and probably archived on the net are for Europe, Korean, and Russia releases. There might be a Japanese release patch but I have no clue where to possibly find it. Also you might want to run the correct patch as administrator in case something goes wrong in the patching process. The North American release of the SourceNext port from what owners have reported that it has the v1.1.0 patch already pre-patched on the disc. *P.S.* And since this is not really mentioned often but albert, one of the creators of the HD Project for the 2014 Steam port, got his start into enhancing re4's visuals by trying to redeem this mess of a port by making texture packs that makes the visual presentation more tolerable and more in-line to the GameCube version, although the outdated Texmod texture injection program used in one of his other texture packs that changes the game's UI, HUD, fonts, and effects sadly causes issues of its own and irritating crashes when trying to mod the SourceNext version of resident evil 4 unless the 4GB Patch is applied to the game's executable. There are still a few mods that have survived 16 years since this port's release, and while some of the game salvage this version, at the same time, the current Steam port by Q-LOC + re4_tweaks and (if you're PC can handle it) HD Project are honestly the best way to experience the original re4 in the modern era on PC, hands down.
@dsbdsb6637
@dsbdsb6637 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for detailed post because it reminded me old days & how each port of same game used to have their own quirks.
@denisruskin348
@denisruskin348 Жыл бұрын
Just imagine the fact there was a device with amazing precision for more than 20 years and Capcom comes in and makes aiming with WASD a thing. Like, bruh.
@xxx-pliskin-sniper-xxx8538
@xxx-pliskin-sniper-xxx8538 Жыл бұрын
An impressive feat to be fair 😂
@PabloB888
@PabloB888 Жыл бұрын
Gamecube version was using both digital (cross key) and analog aiming (analog sticks). My guess is they wanted to preserve this digital aiming with WASD keys.
@Yodagamer1
@Yodagamer1 Жыл бұрын
To be fair it wasn't capcom. It was made by sourcenext and published by ubisoft.
@cosmonautikal536
@cosmonautikal536 Жыл бұрын
I personally like that inventory selection pauses the game. Gives you a moment to think about what to do next should you choose to. Almost like the game is turn based.
@emilkharisov7031
@emilkharisov7031 Жыл бұрын
PS2 uses R1+X to shoot, HD version on PS3 uses R1+Square, my brain hurts every time. Long time ago my friend showed me how that PC version looks and controls on keyboard (along with GTA SA), I was so disappointed and psychologically wounded that I can't play on PC to this day.
@zoologyisboring
@zoologyisboring Жыл бұрын
Lol this is the version I played it on back in the day. Still had a blast
@antzpantz
@antzpantz Жыл бұрын
23:00 Somehow the GC and PC splits were swapped! 😹
@JerryFlowersIII
@JerryFlowersIII Жыл бұрын
I just checked out the 2014 PC port for a refresher, it's pretty nice and mostly in line with the GCN version in terms of things like tree leaves and fog. The deadzone on the controller is still pretty poor though.
@DigitalFoundry
@DigitalFoundry Жыл бұрын
Use the RE4 tweaks Mod to get rid of the deadzone issue Always Checkout PC gaming Wiki when loading Up a PC release
@bluedragon219123
@bluedragon219123 Жыл бұрын
Despite Capcom's ports to the PC being of varied quality in the 00s at least they were still supporting the platform when most developers and publishers abandoned the PC due to piracy. The situation improved in the 10s significantly but I will always remember the companies that still supported the PC during its darkest days. :)
@braincellbazooka
@braincellbazooka Жыл бұрын
I was trying to remember what it was like playing this for the first time and this video reminded me that I was one of the poor souls who completed this on keyboard only 😂
@Tr3e1986
@Tr3e1986 Жыл бұрын
First time play RE4 on GC was a truely amazing experience.
@rabbitenjoyer6320
@rabbitenjoyer6320 Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a full playthrough analysis and comparison!
@abacabdk3490
@abacabdk3490 Жыл бұрын
25:39 THE HAT! Excellent hat-shot, Mr. Alex.
@R1K4RD39
@R1K4RD39 Жыл бұрын
All hail the VCD mpg1 quality cutscenes
@jsr734
@jsr734 Жыл бұрын
It didn´t help that the source was the original Gamecube´s 640x360 resolution cutscenes, amplified with video compression artifacts and displayed at much higher resolutions than the original source.
@awesom4ik
@awesom4ik Жыл бұрын
Finished the original aiming with keyboard, after an hour you get used to it and start landing headshots - had a lot of fun, still one of my favorite games of all time, glad I didn't know port was bad in 2007 :)
@ChriSaito
@ChriSaito Жыл бұрын
Awesome video! I'd love to see you look at the steam version because me and my sister played it over the past few months and had a different experience at least when it comes to controllers and some other stuff. I wonder how our experience differed from the original on the gamecube and from the original PC port. We had an absolute blast playing but I can't help feeling like we missed out a bit by not emulating the gamecube version.
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