Resilient Channel Vs Sound Isolation Clips

Resilient Channel Vs Sound Isolation Clips - All The Facts!

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4 жыл бұрын

Resilient channel and sound isolation clips can be used to soundproof walls and ceilings. These types of soundproofing products will create an air void behind the wall to help block sound.
Resilient channel ceiling installation and also resilient channel wall installation will be compared with installing sound isolation clips to soundproofing a wall or ceiling.
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@kkgrass 2 жыл бұрын

It would have been useful to know some details like the likely STC difference of resilient channels vs. sound clips and hat channels, how much additional space they take up, etc.

@thefrankfactorshow Жыл бұрын

Great video. Easy to understand and well planned.

@nomob6583 4 жыл бұрын

Can you make a video on lighting for sound proof ceiling? Do you recommend pancake boxes and surface lighting fixtures ? what options are there? We do not want to cut big holes in our soundproof ceiling. Thanks

@richardnjoku3328 3 жыл бұрын

This is great. Well-done

@patrickbuonocore3875 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you great tutorial to the point

@kathrynwest1072 3 жыл бұрын

Great video thank you

@stevedemetrious6454 2 жыл бұрын

Great video! Just curious about how you overcome the hurdle of decoupling walls (with either resilient channel or clips) and installing a door. With the drywall sticking out by a few inches on either side, how does that impact a door swing?

@dansantoso48 Жыл бұрын

Hi. Thanks for the guide. In my country we have only rectangular steel hollow. Which clips can I use with these? Thanks

@carlotta4th 3 жыл бұрын

This is very succinct, but it seems to align with all the information I've researched so far, so well done! Staggered walls are approximately +10 STC over normal walls (double walls get more around +25 but they really take up a LOT of room). Resilient channels add approximately +10 STC while green glue adds +4. So when you combine all these different things together you can easily get great numbers. For example: Staggered wall + two 5/8" drywall both sides + green glue = 62 STC for only about 5" total thickness of wall. While a plain wall + two 5/8" drywall both sides + resilient channel = 63 STC for about 4" total thickness of wall. And double walls are even better (easily hit the 73 range!)--but most people aren't willing to have a wall thicker than 6" just for sound reduction.

@soundproofguide 3 жыл бұрын

Yes, by combining soundproofing methods you will definitely up the STC rating of the wall! Let me know how it all Worked out for you!

@h2s142 7 ай бұрын

Mass vinyl under plates and above with alternating studs on a 4” plate 24 oc with mass vinyl on one side

@scubatom8232 Жыл бұрын

I will be finishing out my basement soon. The basement will be an apartment I will rent out. Thank you for the videos. I am trying to figure out how to handle ceiling lighting to not mess up the the barrier.

@soundproofguide Жыл бұрын

Best of luck! Let me know how it turns out!! 😊

@billysap1305 Жыл бұрын

I have 2x4 ceiling joists. You still recomend removing my existing sheetrock instead of installing the channels directly on existing sheetrock then adding another

@emilye709 9 ай бұрын

Why can't I add the resilient channel over the existing drywall if I use wood furing strips over the stud so that the metal doesn't touch the drywall. I really don't want to throw away the existing drywall as it is fairly new. I am also wondering if this can be done from the outside. My ADU is built like a shed and I can simply unscrew the osb siding. I was thinking about adding joist tape on the outside studs then resilient channel or wood furing strips perpendicular to the studs and then screwing 1/2" OSB into the resilient channel and then using carpet glue to add the OSB siding. Another professional soundproofer on KZfaq says carpet glue works as well as green glue for less $. Also wondering if it is neccessary to do the floor of my ADU and how to do it. My neighbors muffler and bass drives me nuts. I have a open air crawl space underneath with no insulation. I'm redoing the floor now while staying in the main house. I plan to use joist tape then 2x4s on the joists then expanding construction adhesive and putting the screws into the 2x4s but not the joists. Over the 3/4" OSB I will add carpet glue then a 1/2" layer of OSB, then I'm pouring self level concreat.

@BacktrackADV 3 жыл бұрын

BacktrackADV Thanks for the informative info on sound proofing. Most literature I've reviewed discusses talking/music sound and impact sound. I haven't read anything addressing noise arising from the floor or ceiling structure itself. A common source of squeaks in a floor is floor boards rubbing together or fasteners (usually nails) rubbing against the wood after they become loose over the years. I am renovating a house built in 1912. The flooring on the main floor is hardwood over fir shiplap. In the basement below, I have access to the ceiling joist and have shimmed and glued as much as I can to reduce squeaks from wood on wood and wood on nails in the main floor above. Will the decoupling with clips/hat channel and two layer of 5/8 type X drywall and GGlue, help reduce any future squeaks that might (will!!) arise in the future? Thanks in advance for your help.

@ValeOfSorrow 6 ай бұрын

Hi BacktrackADV, have you got your project completed by now? What did you end up doing and what materials did you use if you had please? Looking to start the project myself with the same source of the problem - squicky nails above... Thank you so much!!

@gcposeidon0800 4 жыл бұрын

I have an existing room with finished walls. Do you recommend soundbreak or quiet rock mounted right over the existing drywall??

@jayman3575 Жыл бұрын

"When adding a 2nd layer of drywall, this should be done on the other side of the wall. If the resilient channel is installed directly over drywall (rather than studs), it creates a mass-air-mass condition that greatly reduces its effectiveness." Saw this on a construction page of don'ts for RC installs....

@randyh3761 3 жыл бұрын

What is the product shown at 1:18?

@rodrigorampazzo8853 4 жыл бұрын

Such a good video. I'm about to start insulating my garage for a music home studio. I'll let you guys know how it goes after I'm done for the results. Many thanks

@soundproofguide 4 жыл бұрын

Awesome! Yes, do keep us posted!

@denniswilliams9145 9 ай бұрын

According to the chart at the beginning of your video, the difference in STC ratings between a 5/8 double wall utilizing quiet clips and 7/8 hat channel and the very same wall system adding green glue, is only one point, (62 vs. 63). With that in mind, it does not seem like adding green glue to this particular system is worth the astronomical expense. Thanks for the video

@MrDilbert111 3 ай бұрын

The other thing about green glue is what happens if you need to demo at some point. The sheets are literally glued together so you need to cut through all layers at once which is really bad when dealing with heavy 5/8 drywall

@saraniermeyer 4 жыл бұрын

Hi! I have a brick wall covered with plaster. There are no wall studs there are laths and I do not have a lot of space between the wall and the door frame to put a lot of layers on the wall. I am trying to find the best way of sound proofing the party wall in my condo, I do not want to hear any noise. What do you suggest that I do?

@JonathanHochman1 3 жыл бұрын

How much space do you have to work with?

@ChanoAudiovisual 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for these videos! Just one question: I'm making a room-in-a-room home studio, with resilient channels, mineral wool, drywall, a layer of mass loaded vinyl, and another drywall layer. The question is, in this situation, does the density of the mineral wool make any difference in terms of sound insulation? Thanks in advance.

@JonathanHochman1 3 жыл бұрын

DON'T use resilient channels and instead use isolation clips with hat channels, you will get the actual structural decoupling you are looking for. You should also instal one layer of 5/8' drywall, caulked with acoustical calking, with a second layer of 5/8" drywall applied with different staggered seams again sealed with acoustical caulking, with Green Glue (minimum 2 tubes per 4'x8' sheet).

@ChanoAudiovisual 3 жыл бұрын

@@JonathanHochman1 Thanks for the reply. I'll try to find those hat channels. The problem is that, here in Spain, Green Glue is way too expensive, and MLV is much cheaper; when in the USA it is the opposite, I believe.

@beyondthegong 3 жыл бұрын

Going as dense as possible is recommended (with respect to your mineral wool).. but even standard room insulation should be fine. A rule of thumb is: higher density/less sound transmission.

@mike20xp 3 жыл бұрын

hi, i was thinking about it. if people will construct new edification, isn t it best option to build 2 walls and left space empty with a compressor and seal it? thankz for answers.

@beyondthegong 3 жыл бұрын

Yes, if you can be sure that the vacuum between the walls will remain... forever.

@uri78mx 2 жыл бұрын

So, what is better?

@morscovium8881 2 ай бұрын

What id mounter the resilient channel using rubber pads so the screw never directly touches the resilient channel and the resilient channel never touches the stud? To me it sounds like that would be about the same as sound isolation clips

@jwbrenna 2 жыл бұрын

would be nice to know stc differences in more detail: 1 gyp sheet+hat channel vs 2 gyp sheets, no hat channel, etc

@h2s142 7 ай бұрын

Hat channel is not rc channel

@davidfay2192 4 жыл бұрын

Very helpful. Thank you. Any advice on impact noise? I'm building a small room in my room (oddly enough) The sources of noise from inside will be caused by 2 Chinese sewing machines specifically for sewing thick leather. They're like sewing machines on steroids. Very loud, but still manageable. But my concern is the noise caused by a ball pein hammer etching designs into leather, placed on a thick slab of marble. I was told marble absorbs the sounds of impact, and it does a little bit. But not even close to enough. Any suggestions from anyone on how this might be reduced? The problem is I need a solid impact on both ends. So shock absorbers and extra leather as cushion just defeats the purpose. Is be very grateful for any suggestions.

@Oneness100 3 жыл бұрын

Before you can figure out a proper way to treat a room issue, you must measure. Without measuring, then you're just guessing. EVERY situation is not the same as the next person's situation. ss

@magnusred2945 5 ай бұрын

David are you alive?

@amador97caa97 Жыл бұрын

I'm in the process of building a drum room in my bedroom. None of the walls from the drum room will come in contact with my existing walls. The main idea is to be able to practice in my room without any complaints from ANYONE!!!. My drum room is going to be 8w x 10L x 8H. I'm thinking of using soundproof joist tape and 5/8inch sheetrock. Willl this also help in reducing decibles?

@briankehew579 Жыл бұрын

Drums are LOUD and penetrating at all frequencies. Read as much as you can before building it! One significant part - how are you going to get AIR? Any openings or ducts will leak sound completely - defeating the purpose of a sound booth! It's really not as simple as just building a room in a room, you can spend a good amount of money and not have a quiet outcome, especially on the low frequencies.

@audiononsense1611 Жыл бұрын

Not bad for a DIY video however "a compound" is only used for the 1st layer seams, not the wallboard (here you want to cover the entire surface with MLV). Also you want to use two types of material (one being the wallboard that is acoustic based and the other (1st layer) being MDF or HDF.

@kntmarecobra 3 жыл бұрын

How do you mount a tv, shelves, etc while using resilient channel?

@briankehew579 Жыл бұрын

You can mount lighter stuff like small shelves. But depending on the construction detail, you might not be able to do as much weight as the sound clips can do.

@jonphotos134 4 жыл бұрын

We have noisey neighbours and can hear even talking threw the wall. The wall is a solid stone wall. As affects my wife’s health we don’t care about losing space my question would it be more effective to just build another wall from concrete block inside the wall the whole length of the house with a air gap between ?

@MATTETRUEFACT 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Jon! Concrete is not needed. There are several ways to soundproof a wall. Way 1. 25-40 mm high density cork-blocks masoned/glued to the stone wall. Then plasterboard on top of that. Way 2. Use metal or wood studs glued to the ceiling and side walls, they are not to have contact with the stone wall.. Its meant to be a free-standing wall only secured with glue and 2 screws on all sides.Glue like no nails brand etc . There are metal studs with built in 2-3 mm sound isolation, they are just fine to put glue on and secure to the sides/ceiling/floor etc. Put studs every 45 to 60 cm and fill with Rockwool. With the plasterboard on top, you leave ca 3-5 mm gap all around the studs/wall/ceiling including the floor, and fill it with a latex compound to secure and absorb the vibration. If necessary put another layer of plasterboard on top and secure with latex. I have just done my wall in my studio and I got the roof fan down from 44 db to 34 db and now I don't have to hear my neighbours girlfriend rag his as from time to time, and I have not even finished the wall. Best of luck.

@shovelheadseven 4 жыл бұрын

Build a metal stud wall that doesn't make contact with the concrete wall. Roxul between studs. Fasten mass loaded vinyl to the metal studs and sound clips then snap hat track in and screw drywall to hat track. Then layer of green glue. Add an additional layer of 5/8" fire x drywall and use acoustical sealant to seal all around edges. Leave space of about 1/4" from bottom of drywall to floor and ceiling, Seal that space with sealant. You should use quiet putty to seal the back of electrical outlets and switches on wall. When you add 2nd layer of drywall stagger the seams so they overlap instead of lining up. You can use clips to secure metal track to ceiling and floor. They should have thick rubber washers around screw. Make sure everything is decoupled and not screwed directly to a stud or you will create a sound bridge allowing the sound to travel rather than drop and dissipate in the form of heat.

@07wrxtr1 4 жыл бұрын

@@shovelheadseven Fred, you forgot one thing: Hunt down the builders and take them out for a good "talking to" for doing such a horrible job. I'm sick of builders doing horrible work

@tteezzrreell 3 жыл бұрын

im new to this, would resilient channel be better or worse then a staggered stud wall?

@JonathanHochman1 3 жыл бұрын

Soundproofing is a combination of things. Resilient channels (which I recommend people NOT use and use isolation clips and hat channels instead) are structurally decoupling the new wall from the existing structure. Walls are to add mass. It's a combination of mass, decoupling, dampening and airspace (insulation) that will lead to noticeable sound reduction.

@yummy1234098 3 жыл бұрын

@@JonathanHochman1 why not use resilient channel

@briankehew579 Жыл бұрын

@@yummy1234098 resilient channel doesn't block sound as well as the isolation clips and 25mm hat channels do. Resilient channel would likely be cheaper, but it's not as good.

@Oneness100 3 жыл бұрын

When you say "sound", what exactly do you mean in terms of frequency range?

@dirface 2 жыл бұрын

20Hz-20kHz

@Oneness100 2 жыл бұрын

@@dirface How much are you absorbing in that range? There should be some sort of information about the AMOUNT or LEVEL of absorption at different frequencies in the range you are referring to.. Does anyone know exactly what those are? The problem with some of these tactics is does it truly solve the problem. The people I refer to that deal with this usually want to know what frequencies and relative amplitudes are the problem, everyone has a different set of problem and then you have to pick the materials and design for how to build a barrier to address the specific frequencies and amplitudes to attenuate enough of the sound going in or out of the room.

@Oneness100 2 жыл бұрын

@@dirface Oh, the STC ratings he lists aren't that great. I know another acoustic treatment/barrier company that has a 10.5in thick wall that can be built that has an STC rating of 90 and it goes down to 40hz. I HIGHLY doubt these things in the video are going to get anywhere near that level. And I doubt they aren't going to really do much down that low..

@eileenm.murphy2746 3 жыл бұрын

Is there a sound resilient shade for window?

@beyondthegong 3 жыл бұрын

You will need a product like the AcousticCurtain for that.

@dougb5028 9 ай бұрын

need more data showing which is better under what circumstances

@denniswilliams9145 8 ай бұрын

What about adding resilient channel to isolation clips?

@michelleketr9988 3 ай бұрын

No it would cause a possible triple leaf problem

@richardmckrell4899 3 жыл бұрын

8th inch

@Firstnamelastname12387 2 жыл бұрын

You kept repeating the same information but in different words without explaining the technicalities of the product...useless

@soundproofguide 2 жыл бұрын

Just like a politician.

@FatterTony 4 жыл бұрын

great info, thanks but you dont want to dampen walls lol, they'd get all wet. It's damping hehe. sorry :)

@bradleymartinmusic Жыл бұрын

Bought mine from Alibaba for $0.58/piece. Compare that to how much they sell these clips in the US. Absolutely ridiculous to spend nearly $7.00 a clip.

@soundproofguide Жыл бұрын

I’ll definitely have to check that out! 👍🏻👍🏻

@bradleymartinmusic Жыл бұрын

Shipping takes 7-10 days. Fedex IP costed an extra $50, if you want by priority air it’s $230 (3-5 business -which isn’t worth it). The supplier I used told me they supply green glues clips and they’re 8 years verified on Alibaba so, it’s legit. Plus the clips are high quality and literally look and feel the same. It’s sickening how greedy these businesses are.

@patricklavery5144 10 ай бұрын

Im glad I read this comment as it will save me quite a few pennies

@CribbsTV 10 ай бұрын

What was the seller you used? Some of the clips on Alibaba seem to be cheaper and likely actually lower quality.