Resisting the Woke Takeover of Christianity | with Jamie Bambrick

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Benjamin A Boyce

Benjamin A Boyce

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Pastor ‪@jamie.bambrick‬ joins me to speak about Christianity, the good life, and resisting critical social justice's take over of the Church.
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@Apriluser
@Apriluser 9 күн бұрын
As an American Anglican (ACNA), I appreciate this guest and his summary of the Church at large. Either the Church is a mirror of the culture or it can be a beacon for the culture.
@davidsprouse151
@davidsprouse151 6 күн бұрын
lol
@billjohnson1094
@billjohnson1094 2 күн бұрын
The delightful accent aside, this was such a good interview and interview subject. Thanks for bringing it to us.
@virginiacharlotte7007
@virginiacharlotte7007 9 күн бұрын
Sorry- he is misinformed. Pope Francis is NOT a Liberation Theologian.
@Jules-Is-a-Guy
@Jules-Is-a-Guy 9 күн бұрын
I started writing something abt religion similar to things I usually say, and started realizing how cynical and potentially trollish my views on religion actually are. I feel kinda bad, because I rly like this channel, if I were gonna rewrite this and be honest though, I feel like it'll be just as dark as before, and too real. Lol, let's see. I think firstly, um, magic is not real, let's get that out of the way. But more to the point (and on a more terrestrial note) I think religions are almost precisely comparable to big gangs, with everything from the shared rituals, to the dogmatic groupthink, to binding together against outsiders, to the shared insulated and idiosyncratic subculture for cohesion. It must also be pointed out, that although we're dealing here with social phenotype more than genotype (Dawkins's argument might not hold up, but he tried to argue it's both of these via his "extended phenotype" coinage) ethnic similarity tends often, but not always, to be a major factor. (Here's a relatively obvious hypothesis: as long as there's not too much variability in group genotype all at once, shared social phenotype largely contributes to the potential formation of a distinct new genotype, over the course of several generations). So, here's the question: should you join a gang? (Lol). If you're in prison...yeahh, not much choice. If you're a teenager in a dangerous neighborhood, unfortunately oftentimes, not much choice. But in terms of what's going on right now: what if you're in a culturally weakened, atomized Western society, with failing institutions? Should you essentially re-tribalize? Should you 'join a gang?' Ppl debate what kind of social utility religion ultimately has. Basically I'm here to tell you, ppl can dress it up all they like, but essentially this is it. In a weird way, this is not as much of a critique as it may seem to be. I mean, SHOULD ppl join a reliable and (overly) close-knit community group, amidst worsening social disintegration? Honestly, I don't know, increasingly atomized and desperate individuals may well prove to be EVEN MORE dangerous, if that's realistically the only alternative. I know our friendly neighborhood Christians, which probably includes most ppl on this channel, always seem like the most amicable and community-oriented ppl. But then, why can't they just be that way, without doing this whole thing? The initiation rituals, the blood oaths, the shared recitation of a culty creedo, ok maybe not all those things, but lots of them. Ppl get scared, some more easily than others, and this is what happens. Could you just try to join the most benign gang on offer, with the most benign possible outcomes? Maybe, but when the Sharks and Jets start snapping their fingers...
@ddz1375
@ddz1375 9 күн бұрын
Joining a "gang" does not usually afford the new member the luxury of choice. Affiliation os forced and members are "jumped in" through an Initiation involving ritualistic violence and assault followed by a form of love bombing, thusly cementing bonds within the gang. Hierarchy and status are fundamental to the functioning of the group as a whole. There is no notion of Equality that is entertained nor the concept of freedom. There is rigidity of thought and behavior. Religious groups are usually loosely affiliated while being bound by a common belief. The members have freedom of thought and movement and only occasionally come together to function en masses in order to preform a community service. The shared proclamation of membership and beliefs is only done ritually as a group yet it is a statement said by the individual members as a self affirming statement not group think . Jonestown was a cult/gang. Church is a meeting place of like minded people. Religious rituals are preformed as an action ment to focus the heart and mind on God or diety. It's for oneself. Ultimately a person is not compelled to belong to a church the church is there to shelter those that feel the need for camaraderie. Organized religion has nothing to do with one's personal relationship with God. The two are diametrically opposed.
@ddz1375
@ddz1375 9 күн бұрын
Also the phenotype thing flies out the window when you actually observe the scope and breadth of the variety of cultures and countries that have embraced Christianity. The same can be said for Islam. Is a Muslim from Indonesia still as much a Muslim as one from Nigeria?
@Jules-Is-a-Guy
@Jules-Is-a-Guy 8 күн бұрын
@@ddz1375 An AI robot doth sayeth: "The social phenotype refers to the unique set of social behaviors, traits, and characteristics that an individual exhibits, shaped by the interplay between their genetic makeup, environmental factors, and life experiences. It encompasses various aspects of social behavior, including social cognition, social interaction, and social adaptation".
@Jules-Is-a-Guy
@Jules-Is-a-Guy 8 күн бұрын
@@ddz1375 If ppl have spooky metaphysical notions on their own time, ok fine, it's pretty weird but I don't think it's some big social issue. However, the subject here is organized religion. What kind of organized religion do we get, when it hasn't been made so soft, tame and diaphanous, by modernity? Couldn't have said the answer better myself dude, your first paragraph here would pretty much only be a SOMEWHAT exaggerated, medieval version imo, if we were gonna copy/paste it onto religion: "Joining a "gang" does not usually afford the new member the luxury of choice. Affiliation os forced and members are "jumped in" through an Initiation involving ritualistic violence and assault followed by a form of love bombing, thusly cementing bonds within the gang. Hierarchy and status are fundamental to the functioning of the group as a whole. There is no notion of Equality that is entertained nor the concept of freedom. There is rigidity of thought and behavior".
@pressme71nz
@pressme71nz 6 күн бұрын
From a purely philosophical pov, Christianity is an elegant solution to the problem of existence. It is objectively better for humankind to behave according to the rules set out in the Bible. It’s no accident that the safest and best organised societies were founded on Christian values.
@Gingerblaze
@Gingerblaze 9 күн бұрын
What qualifies a "good" life? How does one inherit one?
@thomaslacroix6011
@thomaslacroix6011 8 күн бұрын
When every act you make is in celebration of life, or if you want to be religious, God, then you can say you live a good life. And when I say celebration of life, not the narrow, hedonistic self-serving life of the self, but the broadest reach you can sustain, of the new life, of the old life, of your own community, with respect to other communities. I can go on, but you get the gist. When you've purged yourself of deep-seated guilt, shame, and resentment, and replaced them with compassion, courage and humility. Not an exhaustive list but it certainly is a good start.
@chriswatson276
@chriswatson276 7 күн бұрын
God's written words in the Bible define what is good. A good life is one that is lived in obedience to God. To inherit eternal life, God says you must repent of your sins and believe in His Son, Jesus Christ, as your only salvation from the punishment for sin.
@davidsprouse151
@davidsprouse151 6 күн бұрын
being born white
@Gingerblaze
@Gingerblaze 6 күн бұрын
@@davidsprouse151 how does this ensure a "good life"?
@davidsprouse151
@davidsprouse151 6 күн бұрын
@@Gingerblaze The concept of "woke" came out of the black lives matter movement. It's pretty much a dead metaphor by now, but that's what it was. To be against "wokeness" is basically being against those minorities who rise against the status quo. It's basically punching down, scapegoating.
@NinjaKittyBonks
@NinjaKittyBonks 9 күн бұрын
Cool. I am enjoying the GodTawk podcasts and do not believe have heard from Jamie prior, so will be at the ready 🐈 PS> 🏆😼
@frankflammini6935
@frankflammini6935 9 күн бұрын
Being Eastern Catholic, we have a lot of problems but this ain’t one of them 😂
@helenablavatsky9136
@helenablavatsky9136 9 күн бұрын
@patrickbarnes9874
@patrickbarnes9874 9 күн бұрын
1:45:00 Thoroughly enjoying this interview, but I take exception to the pastor's remarks that he has solid theological grounds for his Protestantism. There are no solid theological grounds for Protestantism. While Protestants claim to rally around sola scriptura, that's just them tickling their ears. The true foundation of Protestantism is pride. Sola scriptura is like "diversity is our strength". It's a meaningless slogan. The Protestant's authority is himself, because he sets himself up as the sole authoritative interpreter of scripture. So it isn't scripture that's the authority, it's the Protestant's own opinions about scripture that is the authority. This is why you have one Protestant church that insists homosexuality is a grave sin and another one that marries gay people. If two people can read the same words and come to opposite conclusions, then the Protestant slogan that scripture interprets scripture is false. If it did, then everyone would come to the same conclusion.
@davidsprouse151
@davidsprouse151 6 күн бұрын
There's over 40k denominations in the world. There's only one catholic church❤
@hanszickerman8051
@hanszickerman8051 6 күн бұрын
@@davidsprouse151 The base for counting 40 k denominations also gives several catholic churces, not only one. An alternative i counting less than ten traditions that have multiple groups within them, like the orthodox tradition.
@davidsprouse151
@davidsprouse151 6 күн бұрын
Thanks for the nuance if you really want to get picky you could include the protestant denominations that say the nicene creed.
@augustcanyon3438
@augustcanyon3438 8 күн бұрын
Obviously this guy is completely unaware of the WEF/UN plans and their church partnerships through NGO's, in addition to the manipulation tactics they use.
@miroirs-jumeaux
@miroirs-jumeaux 9 күн бұрын
SECVNDVS
@NinjaKittyBonks
@NinjaKittyBonks 9 күн бұрын
how is it that these "translate" messages come up?
@miroirs-jumeaux
@miroirs-jumeaux 9 күн бұрын
​@@NinjaKittyBonks good question to which I have no answer. It doesn't show me a translate button for my own comment.
@NinjaKittyBonks
@NinjaKittyBonks 9 күн бұрын
@@miroirs-jumeaux ..OK, that helps.. thanks. I have made some comments in foreign language to test, but never see the translate either.. OK... let me know if my NEXT reply shows the "Translate to English" LINK, OK?
@NinjaKittyBonks
@NinjaKittyBonks 9 күн бұрын
C'est un test
@devin_3875
@devin_3875 8 күн бұрын
@@NinjaKittyBonksYep, there’s a ‘translate to english’ link under your recent [french] reply
@calebcostigan2561
@calebcostigan2561 9 күн бұрын
He’s a fanatic. I’m a gay Christian who is critical of all things woke and I want nothing to do with these loons who will drag us back into the dark ages.
@miroirs-jumeaux
@miroirs-jumeaux 9 күн бұрын
Homosexuality hasn't come up yet. You psychic?
@calebcostigan2561
@calebcostigan2561 9 күн бұрын
@@miroirs-jumeaux I’ve seen his channel. He makes his feelings very clear to his credit. He traffics with American evangelicals.
@Apriluser
@Apriluser 9 күн бұрын
Sorry. No. You are swimming against Scripture, 2000 years of Christian Tradition, and hundreds of years of Jewish understanding.
@calebcostigan2561
@calebcostigan2561 9 күн бұрын
@@Apriluser I follow Christ and his teachings. Not these men who cherry pick from the Old Testament. Btw, I am also an Anglican.
@blacksludgetoxapex5035
@blacksludgetoxapex5035 9 күн бұрын
As a gay ex-christian I have to ask, why would you worship a God who tortures homosexuals for eternity?
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