That's a very long way of saying you're a nice guy Scott. 😏

Okay now let's all gang up on Zubat

"I'm not gonna take shit from a robot" *Biggest roast ever made*

Plot twist: Theyre both robots. Botzdarva & Bot Jund

Listen to the guy who reverse chainsawed in to a Quentin in the corner or the guy who got spun by Quentin.

I’m honestly curious how long this will go on for, and how crazy these titles will get

"Who's dead harding the blast" I don't remember if it was JRM or Ayrun, but one of them has a clip where they dead harded a static blast so the killer didn't know they were there and then got a flashlight save bc of it. CLEARLY something that will happen every game. EDIT: It was Sweh, not Ayrun or JRM.

"Spine chill is the best non-exhaustion perk" - a myers main, probably

7:30 was playing solo queue vs a doctor and an injured Dwight was the last one alive and he dead harded a static blast the doctor used to try to find him, and it was the chadest shit I've ever scene

Listen, no offence, but I will listen to someone who was not spun by Quentin

Seeing scott grin at the "here in the flesh" joke made my day

We all knew this video would take place. The great fight man vs machine

Scott in 2027: “And that’s why I think Otzdarva’s wrong, if that even is his real name.”

I can't wait for this to be a series between Scott Spunned and "Otz"

Watching Otz's live stream and he's now reacting to scotts reaction video. What is this inception

Not gonna lie… when Scott started talking about why their two arguments are different I realized that Otz is objectively right, but I agree with Scott because I play the same way as him.

Dad and Uncle are fighting again, I'm going to have severe childhood trauma

Respectfully, it’s a weak argument to say the perks aren’t as good as iron will bc you’re not playing sweaty; the whole point is that those perks counter the most optimal killer playstyle. Playing chill is not the most optimal playstyle.

I'm with Otz, BT adds the most health states for a single perk, potentially 6 extra health states for one player using BT on a team. That's an amazing amount of value imo.

The war to end all wars

Gosh we have are having a savage rivalry between a Best buy fast food worker and a robot. Its too hard to call who will come out on top

The "I'm not gonna take shit from a robot" got me dying

Confirmed: Scott does not like slaughtering babies. The baby community can rest easy now.

1:06 This picture of Scott "Best Buy" Jund debunks any further counter argument, case closed.

Infinity War is the most ambitious crossover event in history Me: Scott Spund vs Botzdarva

Next video from otzs Responding to: Responding to Heretical Claims that Iron Will is Not the Best from Otzdarva

Still think dead hard is the best perk. If you use it against a console player it crashes there game insta escape!

I love how when someone makes a response to any of this man’s videos he cracks his knuckles and goes into a response with a smile

“there’s only like 7 good survivor perks in the game” SAD BUT TRUE LOL

"Everyone runs an exhaustion perk" except me, who runs bond, kindred, BT and an interchangable meme perk every match to spice it up

"Jesus.. He's so Powerful" 🤣🤣🤣

What might have influenced otz’ opinion on these perks could honestly be his winstreak project. This project forces him to play sweaty, sometimes tunneling people off-hook or soft-core camping. This could explain why to him, DS,UB and BT seem more impactful as he’s forced to either respect them or risk loosing valuable time. Iron will alone however does not make you win/loose a game in a winstreak or at least it’s not as apparent when it does

I just finished watching otzdarva's video, this is great lmao

“Iron will is the best perk” (against me)*

Best Buy does sell food. Usually up at the front. You can get sodas, candy, crips, and the like. Sounds pretty fishy that you didn't know that Scott.

Scott, he’s a robot. He doesn’t need a script

Scott: This is the strongest perk and here's why. Otz: These perks are stronger and here's why. Scott: Well, I don't even want to win so it doesn't matter to me.

I think BT, DS and Unbreakable ARE the strongest perks when you look at how the game would be played if they were removed. But if we're talking about the strongest perks to BRING, they're definitely not as good as some of the exhaustion perks. And the fact that you do not even need to bring BT, DS or Unbreakable in a lot of cases, since decent killers will play around avoiding those even when they don't know if they're in use, makes them even less valuable to bring.

Hey Scott, there's a few notable exceptions to Iron Will working well against every killer. The Plague and Nemesis can infect, making survivors emit sickness sounds which render Iron Will basically useless.

When I saw Otz's video earlier, I knew we were in for a treat with Scott

I wanna see how far this goes

8:54 80% of survivors at least run an exhaustion perk, either Dead Hard, Sprint Burst, Lithe or Balance Landing. If you keep track of survivors and their exhaustion perk, waiting for Dead Hard is not something you need to do all the time. I would say that the other perks, like BT, DS or Unbreakable drive more fear in the killers than DH.

'Everyone runs an exhaustion perk' - Me, who often doesn't: smiles nervously

"The best perk is whatever you think is the best" Weird way to pronounce sprint burst but I see you

I've been getting the free iron will bug almost every other game now. Is it just me that's it's happening too?

7:35 u can dh through a static blast and get a flashlight save when the killer wont expect it thats the main reason to do it

Lmao watching Otz's first, I didn't even realize the head knock was specifically for Scott

Man, I love these just peaceful discussions with each other and not just putting down their arguments.

A "fix" for solo queue would be for survivors to be able to see other survivors' loadout in the pre-game screen

as always i have no clue what Scott's talking about, but i like the way he says it.

Honestly man, I feel like you and him having a healthy debate about the game is great! Talking different strategies and ways to play the game is one of the best ways to open people's eyes and keep the game healthy and fresh. I love both of y'all's content and I'm really glad you responded to his response lol. Keep on keepin on Scott. Love you dawg

oh boy here we go 😂😂 this is as close to live debate I've ever gotten and it is PRECIOUS because of these two special bois

if Scott suddenly changes his opinion, it is because the Russians got him and have converted him into a robot.

"otz is arguing from a very competitive 'I want to win' perspective." What other perspective is there when you're arguing about the strongest perks in a competitive multiplayer game? The better argument would be you were looking at it from a "whether I take the perk or not" perspective as opposed to "whether it's in the game or not."

You both make quality vids. Straight up. But that end is cracking my shit up.

this was such a treasure to watch, i love you guys

I also got triggered when he said "that's about it" as if changing your chase style isnt big deal, in a game where chase time matters a ton lol. how many times has he lost a chase because the other person already went to another tile, while he was still looping/mindgaming the same one, but didnt know the survivor already left because of iron will? how is that an easily swept away "thats about it" point in DBD lol.

Best Buy doesn’t sell food? That explains the food quality.

I think Unbreakable's inconsistency argument also applies to Iron Will, albeit to a lesser degree. Every Killer has to worry about Unbreakable (Pyramid Head is possibly the best Killer against it since he can cage someone he'd otherwise have to slug but that's fairly niche). It's also a perk that single-handedly demolishes Killers like Oni, Plague, Twins, Myers, Huntress etc... really, any snowball Killer. So it's moderately good into any Killer with a chance of being BACKBREAKING against certain Killers. Many Killers have ways to work around Iron Will/flat out ignore it. Plague: good luck hiding your sounds when you're puking and retching lol Doctor: if they're in chase with you in Madness III, they're constantly screaming (and potentially glowing/revealing their aura in other ways depending on addons) so you're NEVER losing them Hag/Trapper: if they run into a trap it doesn't matter if Iron Will makes them quiet as a mouse, they're still gonna get slapped Twins: between Victor's detection radius highlighting Iron Will gamers, Victor's built in Bloodhound meaning anyone injured is spilling Kool-Aid all over the floor, and Victor's playmates when he's attached having their location given away by a loudly shrieking French child tearing into their skull... you're not making many Iron Will plays against a smart Twins. Myers and Ghostface are both stealth Killers, meaning you need to heal against them to not get jumped, and insta-down Killers, meaning they'll be taking you from healthy to downed a lot without Iron Will ever becoming a factor. Hell, Nemesis even makes his Contamination targets cough. No Killer can consistently work around Unbreakable, and several Killers are wrecked by a single Unbreakable just as part of their daily business. Several Killers can consistently work around/ignore IW, and it only really demolishes a single Killer (Spirit, who is strong enough and has enough visual cues to be able to work around it anyway)

I wonder how long this will go on. Will be here for it.

Using the D&D music in the background must have been comeback for Scott using Otz's stream when he had to clean up after a catccident.

I think you should rate these perks more from a survivor side of view, ds or bt might not bother you when playing killer but as a survivor you get lots of value almost every game.

Just got into Arcadum’s channel and now I need a DnD campaign with you and Otz

"I'm not going to take shit from a Robot." - Scott Jund

The reason Otzdarva made best buy seem like a fast-food restaurant because he is a robot, so the electronics are food for him.

Day one of trying to convince Scott to talk about how good Lucky Break is.

Yes the chase gets longer but how much time is safed with other perks?

Can anybody link me to a vid where they dead hard to avoid a static blast?

So he saying I can have Iron Will and killers will still THINK I have 4 other perks and they will waste extra time thinking Im gonna dead hard? Epic Iron Will works and the other 4 that I dont have will still work, I just get Iron Will on top of it all

Oh god Scott has changed This is what happens to spin victims

Hi Scott, Ace Visconti is pretty quiet.....Is it still useful to have Iron Will as a perk on him?

You can hear the static blast charging up, so it's actually viable to dead hard through it to avoid being found

Ok but we're still nerfing pig right?

Cleary these noobies have never used tecnician and poised or the secret op deliverance and second wind FOOOLLLLS. smh...

I just came back to this video for the first 2 minutes, nothing else

Scott and Otz really make DBD feel wholesome. I don't even play anymore but I still like watching these guys

Its okay Scott. You're only human.

"Heretical claims" I laughed so hard xD

Scott! You worked at Best Buy? I just started. Any tips?

Hey Scott. Do u think Iron Will is rightfully a top tier perk or do u think it needs a nerf or change?

I whole heartedly believe that OTZ put unbreakable so high because he gets DS's probably 3 times more often than Scott. He's so tired of getting DS over the years that he slugs pretty hard and therefore the unbreakable plays you say are so rare are pretty frequent for him.

"He's playing my music ,the fooker" 😂

the amount of times iron will has actually saved me, or allowed me to get saves i wouldn't have been able to get without it, it's such a valuable perk.

Scott: who tf is deadharding through a blast? Sweh: so yeah...

Scott vs Otz out here debating about Iron Will Me who has spotify 24/7: Where sound?

Well since the devs put the Discordance 1 vs 3 debate in the dirt they need *something* to argue about now

On the question of having a way of telling that people have unbreakable in solo queue: everyone bring buckle up

7:33 not sure if youll read this scott but dh'ing through a blast can be really useful. if a survivor dies on a pallet or in the open when the team has flashlights, doctor will often use his blast to make sure theres no one nearby for the pallet/flashlight save. if you dh through it, you give the doctor a false sense of security so theyre likely to pick up and you get the save

True Talent: *brings up old drama on Twitter* Otz and Scott:

The problem I have with the first 3 perks is that they're very inconsistent, because if killers want to win they stay away from hooks and try to get pressure instantly to win, iron will is so much more consistent

Little did Scott know that there would be a new Sheriff in Town named Circle of Healing.

I am just eating popcorn watching this whole thing unfold

I think what’s interesting is that they both agree on the perks, but just disagree with what makes a perk the best. Otz seems to think that a perk having an effect when it’s not there is what makes the best perks, and Scott thinks that what matters is what happens when you equip the perk, which is some really interesting discourse.

Am i the only 1 confused why Otzd added exhaustion perks to a discussion about what the best non-exhauation perks are 🤣🤣🤣

I love how they’re casually having fun with each other.

This picture of Scott is gold

Otz responded to this on his stream and his chat was embarrassing, went full hostility mode towards Scott. Scott and Otz actually have good chemistry whether they're cooperating or debating, it's all in good fun. Socially awkward twitch viewers lol

Botzdarva was crushed this debate

Rebuttal on the 1st point: Best buy sells food, well chips and snacks but I count it

I think one perk that is getting a little over looked here is spine chill. It substantially effects the game against stealth killers and tinkerer users and can be used in chase to see what direction the killer is looking. It also allows you to work on generators in the terror radius more safely because you can tell when the killer is heading towards you rather than just being near you. It also can be helpful in niche situations when you were trying to commit to a generator when the killer is coming with the speed boost