Review: GNOME 44 is a Great Release (Mostly)

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GNOME 44, the latest release of the popular desktop environment for Linux, was released recently. As always, Learn Linux TV has a full review so you can check out all of its new features. It's a great release, although one feature in particular completely missed its mark.
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00:00 - Intro
00:55 - A few notes and some info on my test PC
02:14 - GNOME's file manager has a "tree view" (again)
04:04 - The "Quick Settings" menu has been improved in GNOME 44
04:55 - The new "Background Applications" feature of the "Quick Settings" menu
06:54 - Improvements within GNOME's System Settings in GNOME 44
09:55 - GNOME Software is more responsive in GNOME 44
12:00 - GNOME 44 is very responsive and runs great
12:49 - Is GNOME a "bloated" desktop environment?
14:05 - The GNOME desktop has a great dark mode option
15:03 - Unfortunately, GNOME 44's "Background Applications" has some huge flaws
18:41 - GNOME's "Device Security" panel gives users a false sense of security/insecurity
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@Crackalacking_Z Жыл бұрын

The ram usage depends a lot on the overall system setup, the DE is just part of that big picture, my GNOME laptop sits at 1GB after cold boot

@Jopekos Жыл бұрын

Really Awesome intro! 👏 Good to see more features that the community has been asking for for a long time being implemented in Gnome.🚀

@jairunet Жыл бұрын

Thank you for all your proof of work Jay, I am learning so much from you I really appreciate it, keep up the great work, and until the next video update about Linux, Cloud, Networking, K8s 🙏

@bitonchen Жыл бұрын

i Really love your take on linux news. im now learning ansible with your guide. i know its not updated BUT your pace in intreducing the information is very relaxing and informative

@bertnijhof5413 Жыл бұрын

Gnome 44 and Linux 6.2 are part of the development edition of Ubuntu 23.04.

@shaunpatrick8345 Жыл бұрын

If I want to see which background apps are running I'll open System Monitor. System Tray icons would be better in the notifications panel for several reasons, not the least of which is that it can be opened with a keyboard shortcut, or accessed with a single click. We already have a weather widget and world time widget available there, and MPRIS controls go there, so users have been trained to open it to look for "news" and to control certain applications. If I want to see if my cloud storage has finished syncing, the best place to look for that icon is in the notifications panel. Having an overflow to place important icons next to the clock would make it even better.

@user-ps5up3og2h Жыл бұрын

The Device Security page cannot warn you about insecure password. The whole idea of /etc/shadow is that passwords stored there are hashed, i.e. one just cannot recover them without some sort of brute force attack. As the result, that page simply has no access to your password. The only thing that can give you such warning is the Change Password window itself because it naturally has access to the password you type into it. And guess what - it already does!

@user-ps5up3og2h Жыл бұрын

@@acajoom The problem is, one can use any tool to change their password other than the GNOME one (even a text editor!) which will immediately make that info outdated. As a result, Device Security will complain about weak password when it's already not the case.

@LearnLinuxTV Жыл бұрын

There's ways to detect weak passwords. Not only that, if you ignore the password thing entirely - there's probably several dozen (more important) things this screen could've displayed that would've provided actual benefit to users.

@user-ps5up3og2h Жыл бұрын

@@LearnLinuxTV > There's ways to detect weak passwords. How? Programs don't even have access to hashed passwords without running as EUID 0. Yeah, one could write a PAM module which saves that data every time user logs in, but it may even be considered a security issue: leaking user password vulnerability is not nice.

@Romek_S Жыл бұрын

This "background apps" is really disappointing. I hope dev team is aware of this and they will add extra functions to app in nearest patches. Or, maybe, some sort of extension? But overall Im using beta version of Fedora 38 with new gnome and I like it.

@jimmyrichards5595 Жыл бұрын

Agree. I’m also running Fedora 38 Beta.

@seanpaul7069 Жыл бұрын

Gnome needs to bring back proper tray icons. This is such useful feature. I can’t understand why this isn’t offered. For example, I use Dropbox and there are various settings only accessible through tray icon. How am I to access that? Sometimes I think gnome focus more on form over function

@piRaufasertapete Жыл бұрын

Cannot wait to try fractioncal scaling. I currently have to use some extension for decent UI size on a tablet, but the font rendering is not in a higher res then

@RyanBragg84 Жыл бұрын

Great review looking forward to getting this on my distribution

@LearnLinuxTV Жыл бұрын

Have fun!

@heshamkhalil2215 Жыл бұрын

thank you so much you are objective , unbiased and straight to the point 👍👍👍

@ivanavdeyev7297 Жыл бұрын

it would be cool if in the background applications menu you could open the context menu like in the tray, but in gnome style list

@rmcbryde Жыл бұрын

The animations for Traditional and Natural modes for scrolling are helpful. I can never remember which one I prefer (it's Traditional). New subscriber and love your videos!

@LearnLinuxTV Жыл бұрын

Thank you and welcome aboard!

@samuelitooooo Жыл бұрын

It's strange that System Monitor is not a GTK4 app yet. At least Web is now, which is good. Can't wait for GNOME 44. Thumbnails also make a comeback in the file picker. Thank you for addressing RAM. Its only a critical problem if you don't have much of it, like 2 GB or less. I wish more people reviewed CPU usage. Pretty sure CPU is the bigger reason I can't do video editing on a decade-old laptop with 8 GB RAM.

@wiz3905 Жыл бұрын

One favorite is resizing panels & keeping my favorite panel sizes whenever I open a particular app or terminal. There is a universal way of doing this? I forgot how to do it in a private startup profile. Can you help?

@yaroslav7328 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for reviewing my favorite desktop environment! Meticulously as ever! Still GNOME is awesome, the best we can have and in my opinion it delivers better workflow than Windows and MacOS both do.

@LearnLinuxTV Жыл бұрын

My favorite as well. 😀

@chrisseoc7095 Жыл бұрын

I really respect that you use real machines for your reviews. I realised quite early on that performance of virtual machines would not produce realistic results for actual application which renders many reviews academic. There's nothing like falling in love with a distro only to realise it won't run on your real pc.

@Huapua Жыл бұрын

I get practically bare metal performance with my VM's.

@chrisseoc7095 Жыл бұрын

@@Huapua Yes, but when hardware needs configuring without help from the host operating system then only a real live test and install will sometimes show the problems. Many distros that look good on paper can fall flat quickly when this is attempted. Multiple real world models are best for this.

@davidwayne9982 Жыл бұрын

I have ONE eye now- and the "good" eye has a special lens that lets me see clearly at any distance- but it also causes LIGHT LOSS-- so I need DARK mode to keep from bothering my vision now... looks GREAT.

@ArniesTech Жыл бұрын

Beautiful. GNOME has really grown on me and became my favourite go to DE 💪🙏

@LearnLinuxTV Жыл бұрын

Same!

@epieursvelte13cirertrollferpur Жыл бұрын

Great video, thanks!

@notjustforhackers4252 Жыл бұрын

You're not wrong about that alert sound J.... it is NASTY, first thing I turn off too. Meh, background apps will be more useful in the future I reckon, baby steps. Regardless GNOME really is very good these days, I like where they're heading with it.

@Hunter961 Жыл бұрын

I would be really nice if this triple buffering patch would make its way in this release, but I guess we have to wait a little more (of course outside of Ubuntu).

@nikkoa.3639 Жыл бұрын

Iirc, the triple buffering patch was rejected because it was just WAY too hacky. I forgot the specifics, I just remember that is was so bad that it could only work on Ubuntu since they're willing to accept the risk that came with it

@Alexander-ix2jp Жыл бұрын

@@nikkoa.3639 It's fine

@Alexander-ix2jp Жыл бұрын

+1 same here mate, triple buffering ftw

@nikkoa.3639 Жыл бұрын

@@Alexander-ix2jp Oh oops, found the reason. Yes you're right that it wasn't too bad, but I do maintain the position that it's too hacky. Based on what I've read, the triple-buffering doesn't exactly solve the issue of Gnome smoothness but rather just makes the system take more resources to enable it. It's more a power management issue since Gnome tries really hard to be efficient

@Alexander-ix2jp Жыл бұрын

@@nikkoa.3639 On my systems, comparing side by side, with and without triple buffering is a night and day difference, especially on low-powered hardware: Stuttery 20-30fps versus buttery smooth 60 fps. Tested on an Intel compute stick with an Intel igpu and several other desktop machines with far more powerful hardware. The fact that a smooth desktop is still such a tremendous issue in 2023 is a sad state of affairs tbh, so I welcome anything that helps fix this on Gnome both short and long-term. That said, all major systems (iOS, Android, Windows, Mac) rely on similar techniques to make their desktops smoother, and it feels good. Sure, latency is a factor to consider when doing this, but that doesn't matter that much when it comes to the desktop and its animations. To me it's not too hacky at all, just the start of something that can be worked on to improve even more further down the line, like everything else IT. If anyone has a better solution right here, right now, or something that won't take another decade to fix, by all means: let's see it then. Until then, thanks @ Canonical for rising up to the challenge to address this issue once and for all, hopefully, or at least until something better materializes. There is an interesting technical blog post about this written by Ubuntu's Daniel van Vugt, highly recommend.

@davidwayne9982 Жыл бұрын

Maybe that slowness was what bothered me before-- because this is looking BETTER.. I do wish you'd show normal workflow usage!!!

@rohanghosh9700 Жыл бұрын

Sir does gnome 44 supports pinch zoom in & out in browsers and second question is how can I use pinch zoom in & out in ubuntu 22.04 lts.

@naskue4187 Жыл бұрын

enable it as a env variable for firefox

@freetobe3 Жыл бұрын

I wish the gnome developers made a proper tray API for background apps, maybe make it dynamic too including the system indicators, either grouped or individual.

@AP-kx4yw Жыл бұрын

Some people are working on a new freedesktop standard that would replace the old try APIs which have many problems with Wayland, Flatpak, etc. The GNOME developers want to support it when it's finished.

@bleack8701 Жыл бұрын

20:00 is it even gnome's job to check if your password is secure though? At face value I just think that the screen is there to give you a log of security related events.

@ezekiel3792 Жыл бұрын

nice review bro...👍👍👍

@bleack8701 Жыл бұрын

Why are the quick settings dark when the theme is light?

@joshua_lee732 Жыл бұрын

I personally liked the older intro

@SwiatLinuksa Жыл бұрын

@notjustforhackers4252 Жыл бұрын

-1 ( you can't please everyone can you )

@novelmartinez6154 Жыл бұрын

good presentation. subscribed ^^

@LearnLinuxTV Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the sub!

@haidaraismandar Жыл бұрын

what about fractional scaling, isn't it implemented in this release ?

@davidwayne9982 Жыл бұрын

CAN YOU GO IN and CHANGE "event" sounds on the system???

@endaksi_channel Жыл бұрын

It is weird that when you open Files program you have everything on a left side panel except Desktop. Somehow Desktop is only available if you go into Home. Please fix that.

@LearnLinuxTV Жыл бұрын

I think that's because there's no more desktop icons in GNOME, but distros still feature the folder for some reason. It definitely needs to be fixed, I agree. But the problem is I don't think both sides of the underlying issue are easy to reconcile.

@mahtja1559 Жыл бұрын

I re-enabled secureboot and the secureboot section still says it's disabled. I'm still on Silverblue 37.

@C0SSTY Жыл бұрын

If Gnome officially supported dash to panel and arc menu, I would use it instead of cinnamon, but I don't want to use 3rd party extensions.

@tonystorcke Жыл бұрын

I wouldn't worry too much about the background apps display Flatpaks are the future of desktop apps anyway.

@dus10dnd Жыл бұрын

It has been a long while since I have been a "Linux on the Desktop" person. This look pretty good. Very macOS-esque.

@TomSmith-sr2br Жыл бұрын

@ 3:50 why have a triangle if the folder is empty, face palm. @ 4:45 would be nice to have a button to turn off blue tooth right there and for WiFi

@arnonart Жыл бұрын

I'm sure they will fix all the shortcomings on the next point release.

@dovedozen Жыл бұрын

that alert sound ROCKS; are you kidding me? it makes me feel like I'm playing some kind of virtual pet shovelware for the nintendo DS -- also, critically, it's SHORT. gimme a weird little scuff noise over a chime or whatever any day !! disclaimer that i do Not even like gnome. at all. however they were right about this one thing

@PaulG.x Жыл бұрын

Logically ,an alert sound should be annoying. A gentle lullaby would not make a good alert sound

@LearnLinuxTV Жыл бұрын

Annoying is one thing, making you jump out of your seat is another thing entirely.

@adaml.5355 Жыл бұрын

I'm glad Gnome is working on killing tray icons. (Maybe they already did that, hah!) But I think their new solution is better than other operating systems.

@LearnLinuxTV Жыл бұрын

I agree that it looks a lot better than how other operating systems do it. But unfortunately, trying to make all developers not write apps with tray icons is just not going to happen. They will absolutely need to support that.

@adaml.5355 Жыл бұрын

@@LearnLinuxTV Well I assume the goal is to make some Freedesktop API to finally standardize the functionality of tray icons in a more appropriate manner. (By turning it into a background apps tray.) Whether that happens in Gnome 45 or Gnome 46, we will have to see. Right now it's sort of like anything goes, no two system trays look the same. That's why Gnome dropped it in the first place, because it was always inconsistent and I believe a quote of a Gnome developer is, "Nobody knows how they work." If they can at least add the ability to open the apps, and enhance them with supplementary quick actions, that would be great. I don't find the filling up of the menu bar items on macOS is good at all, especially with the notch. And I never really use the Windows system tray except to close items and see what is running on the system. Gnome seems laser focused on not having dozens of background apps running and alerting the user to problematic or wasteful applications and I applaud them for that. Sorry for the word dump.

@scottamolinari Жыл бұрын

Hmm... I have Gnome 42.5 and it also has Tree View.

@scottamolinari Жыл бұрын

Maybe Background Apps is a poor name? I think it should be Minimized Apps.

@reralt Жыл бұрын

When will it be available for Arch ?

@naskue4187 Жыл бұрын

apr 1st

@reralt Жыл бұрын

@@naskue4187 sus

@endaksi_channel Жыл бұрын

It is weird that in every Gnome app if you want to use any function from the menu (no matter what - File/Open, Help etc.) you have to find Menu first. And it is not that straightforward. You have to look arround for a small hamburger button which can be situated in various places.

@LearnLinuxTV Жыл бұрын

I won't lie - I did literally forget where that was at first in this version. So I'm probably not going to be able to debate you on this. lol

@J43rv1 Жыл бұрын

Is it just me or are most of these new features already enabled in Pop's DE?

@LearnLinuxTV Жыл бұрын

Close, but not completely. They're a bit behind on GNOME's features unfortunately.

@genblob Жыл бұрын

I really hope they add a context menu to the background apps section. It's pretty useless without it

@dragonballjiujitsu Жыл бұрын

Two things: 1. I love that you pronounce Gnome correctly. Thank you!!! 2. I love how my KDE plasma install wastes all of my RAM and only uses around 500mb

@slembcke Жыл бұрын

Oh hrm. That's disappointing about the background app feature. I really did think it was implementing the tray icons somewhere out of the way. It's not so bad on my Linux machines with just Steam, Slack, and Discord, but I _hate_ them on my Windows work machine. There's too many of them and the icon styles are a wild mix of garbage. Half of them are from Windows itself. :-\ As you say, the obvious problem is that programs rely on them as the only way to perform certain functions, so not having them at all isn't a good option.

@cheebadigga4092 Жыл бұрын

Windows 7/8.1/10 still have the best tray icon design and management (assuming it works - sometimes it doesn't because Windows itself is stupid). Let me correct that: the best task bar period.

@cheebadigga4092 Жыл бұрын

@@acajoom maybe, but they perfected it imho

@cheebadigga4092 Жыл бұрын

@@acajoom I do though.

@cheebadigga4092 Жыл бұрын

@@acajoom ?

@momomomomomomomomoto Жыл бұрын

nobody in the gnome team uses more than one monitor? they remove the option to set wallpaper per monitor in gnome 2 and never put back lol

@maurolimaok 10 ай бұрын

I'm Brazilian, 56yo, on my first steps on Linux. Installed Debian 12 Bookworm to begin my studies in coding. Don't know how to update my Gnome to 44, and we're going to 45 already. Can you make a video of HOW TO, please!

@misium Жыл бұрын

wow, a desktop that you don't wait for to catch up with you. a thing to marvel in the age of 5ghz CPUs, ssds and enough RAMs to do human genome project

@ibm450 Жыл бұрын

Recently, I've come to the realization that customizing and configuring Fedora or a plain desktop with extensions, file configuration hacks, and RPM Fusion activations takes just as long as installing Windows from scratch. It begs the question, why bother? In contrast, Nobara, MX-Linux, and Mint provide a nearly complete out-of-the-box experience. It would be great if you could create a video demonstrating how easy or difficult it is to set up file sharing in a mixed network environment, predominantly with Windows, using Fedora, Nobara, and Mint. Although Mx-Linux comes with complete file sharing right from the start, unfortunately, it seems outdated. These are the actual needs of users, and to be honest, Windows still holds the upper hand in this area.

@iglobrothers645 Жыл бұрын

What about discord screen sharing?

@Luke-ii9wp Жыл бұрын

The thing I hate is that flatpak stands as a dependency, I don't use flatpak and I don't want it because you have to put it to me as a forced dependency

@mrskilz4thrilz 11 ай бұрын

This guys favourite word is "welcome". The way he says it 🤣🤣🤣

@_tanzil_ Жыл бұрын

13:00 When windows usage 1.8GB RAM: Ewww 😤 When Linux does: Well, it is being efficient 😉

@naskue4187 Жыл бұрын

i want ram to go into the apps that EYE open, not what gnome opens

@bragefuglseth3505 Жыл бұрын

Then don’t have any apps that open in the background. This happened before as well, the difference is that GNOME displays them now

@naskue4187 Жыл бұрын

@@bragefuglseth3505 you missed my point entirely. I don't have apps running in the back, when I boot up my machine, I should not see 2 gigs being used out the wazoo because of this philosophy

@LearnLinuxTV Жыл бұрын

Both GNOME and the Linux kernel are open source. If you feel this strongly about it, you might want to consider altering the code and recompiling these. My recommendation is to ignore this since it's not deterring anything in your system.

@bragefuglseth3505 Жыл бұрын

@@naskue4187 What «philosophy»? Do you mean GNOME being resource-heavy?

@naskue4187 Жыл бұрын

@@LearnLinuxTV I'm a musician, artist and VA. not an IT specialist or dev hobbyist. I simply wish for Linux to get out of my way when I'm focused on a task without running out of ram because of gnome's philosophy of unused ram. I already teeter on the vram limit for my GPU at idle.

@michadybczak4862 Жыл бұрын

I'm not sure if that is funny or sad. People on Gnome are happy with very few bare basics that are restored, or sometimes partially restored (background apps), and that is it - the whole, big release. If it was an alpha or maybe a beta, it would be OK. This is the reason, I banned Gnome on my computers years ago. It's moving in the right direction, but so slowly... The vanilla experience is just bad. One needs extensions to make it useful. No, thanks :(. If I was a Gnome desktop dev, I would be ashamed to release such unfinished work. 9 or even 10 years have passed and Gnome is still nowhere near to be complete.

@samoylov1973 Жыл бұрын

Been using Gnome for years. More than 10 in fact - ever since switched from Mandrake to Ubuntu. And might have stayed with Gnome in Manjaro... haven't I tried KDE. Terminal there (or should I write Konsole) just works. Images in ranger are available out of the box. Boy, how many hours I spent figuring out how to enable this little but useful thing in Gnome. And one more feature - don't like borders of windows and buttons. They take valuable space. Got rid of them in KDE. It Gnome... forgot what it was in Gnome. For now KDE is just better for me.

@Totogita Жыл бұрын

Ubuntu 10.04 lets had the best gnome ever 😂😂😂😂

@npoaccount9154 Жыл бұрын

Arch users be having 64gb ram and use only 1gb because lightweight duh.

@LearnLinuxTV Жыл бұрын

That sounds pretty much correct to me.

@nonetrix3066 Жыл бұрын

The alert sound literally has made me jump multiple times... ;-;

@LearnLinuxTV Жыл бұрын

OMG me too!!!

@idjdbrvvskambvvv9007 Жыл бұрын

god i already got bloated gtk3 settings ;_:

@bleack8701 Жыл бұрын

After hyping up the sound so much I was mega letdown. It sounds so meh. Though I think the sound itself isn't good for what it's supposed to do

@guilherme5094 Жыл бұрын

👍Nice.

@LearnLinuxTV Жыл бұрын

Thanks 👍

@tpasi2020UG Жыл бұрын

Gnome is simply the best!

@sjmarel Жыл бұрын

Come on man, the RAM argument was totally weak. You do want to use your RAM, but for the applications that matter, not for just running the desktop.

@VijaySingh-wp8is Жыл бұрын

Is that Android 12..

@davidwayne9982 Жыл бұрын

I wish YOU would make a video on the EFFICIENT USE of gnome... period!!! THAT way maybe I coud understand what I'm doing WRONG that makes me hate gnome so much..

@f-s-r Жыл бұрын

Gnome & System Tray is a horror story. And a totally unnecessary one. I don't know how anyone can mess up so badly something that was working perfectly fine, and for no reason at all. Too many icons? Then use a small menu, with the icons on it, and the same functionality that it always had. But no, they had to remove the functionality and leave gnome crippled for backgound applications. That's one of the reasons i use XFCE. I have the tray icons that we always had, and that are included in applications built today, even if gnome don't wants to show them. Because tray icons are needed, and there seems to be no alternatives to using them, let alone *better* alternatives. "New" isn't the same as "better".

@davidwayne9982 Жыл бұрын

I HATE gnome... BUT-- before anyone gets all upset at me--- I'm here to hopefully CHANGE THAT. I like the LOOK of gnome now-- and it looks efficient. I just cna't find the "so called" flow in it-- doesn't work for me.. and I'm hoping maybe it's because I'm using it WRONG- and to correct that here. I have NOTHING against the software AT ALL-- just can't "GET IT"- and as I said- want to fix that here.. so I CAN!!!! I figure YOU have a presentations style so precise and simple that I catch whatever you throw out-- maybe it will help me to " GET " gnome and it's use every day.

@koye4427 Жыл бұрын

This release is promising and worrying at the same time. It feels like they've chosen to copy other operating systems instead of asking **why** something is the way it is. Glancable system-tray icons that have application functionality? Nope, but there is a window that shows if a flatpak is open. Secure boot? Windows is requiring that now (to strengthen their monopoly with pre-signed motherboards), might as well copy them too!

@noam65 Жыл бұрын

If you're allowed, sell your books in your Linux TV store.

@LearnLinuxTV Жыл бұрын

I'd like to, but then fulfillment may be up to me at that point - but good suggestion though.

@axlslak Жыл бұрын

Omg, that "files" is called nautilus. It's like doing a video about windows and never calling explorer.exe ... "the explorer".

@LearnLinuxTV Жыл бұрын

No offense, but literally everything you just said is 100% false.

@axlslak Жыл бұрын

@@LearnLinuxTV seriously? You gonna call it files? Jeez. Good luck with linux reviews man :)

@axlslak Жыл бұрын

@@LearnLinuxTV en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNOME_Files Quote: "GNOME Files, formerly and internally known as Nautilus" I am wrong on EVERYTHING. So not only this, but also, i'm assuming explorer.exe is NOT the explorer. Jeez man. On everything? on everything everything? On punctuation too? Maybe just give me credit for using latin script and like words with spaces. Give me something. Coz I only made 2 statements and both are true, and you are a crappy reviewer. How can you figure out what is in gnome 44 if you dont know what was in previous gnomes? You had to provoke me. Now I'm subscribed :D

@WaynoGur Жыл бұрын

I quit using gnome when v3 came out. I really couldn't get a good work flow with it and the shortcuts were as esoteric as vi.

@keilmillerjr9701 Жыл бұрын

I don't need nor want system tray icons. Don't remind me of windoze.

@Royaleah Жыл бұрын

I don't get Gnome. I find the use of it clunky and slow. What do people like about it?

@LearnLinuxTV Жыл бұрын

Here's the thing, if GNOME doesn't resonate with you nor fit your workflow - you're not missing anything. It's just not for you. And that's okay, it's 100% fine not to like it.

@marcotroster8247 Жыл бұрын

I don't agree with your apologetic view on "modern programming". It's just a giant mess because people somehow forgot how to properly allocate memory 😅😂 Those programming flaws waste countless hours of users' lifetime and btw kill the climate with unnecessary high energy consumption. It's 100% not acceptable! 🤔😅 But I mean, Gnome is still a good desktop. Since the version deployed in Ubuntu 20.04, the file explorer is actually not too bad. It had enough Windows productivity feeling to finally convert for daily programming, at least for me 😂

@HShango Жыл бұрын

Gnome is nice, but it isn't for me. I prefer KDE (neon & Steam OS).

@sifatullah246 Жыл бұрын

My preferred DE is also KDE, but, unfortunately my hardware hates KDE and it isn't as smooth as someone would expect. I blame my Nvidia GPU for this. 😠

@HShango Жыл бұрын

@@sifatullah246 I've got nvidia & amd, luckily my nvidia gpuplays nice with kde neon and my and is a natural with steam os.

@albanosilva378 Жыл бұрын

Dr. Who?

@v-for-victory Жыл бұрын

Really annoying is that there is no Minimize or Maximize button. And I am too dumb to get these things activated. Nice GUI with a low learning curve.

@TomSmith-sr2br Жыл бұрын

Is it just me or does the fonts look bad, i noticed this on popos ?

@greob Жыл бұрын

This whole "background apps" thing is just terrible. Why did they get rid of tray icons in the first place? It's such a bad idea. And why have the "dark mode" button in the tray menu there? It's not like we need to use it every day, just remove it and keep that in the system settings.

@samuelitooooo Жыл бұрын

I agree with this. I have the dark mode toggle on a schedule. I don't need to switch it manually often.

@LearnLinuxTV Жыл бұрын

Good points, both of you! 100% agreement!

@CrustyAbsconder Жыл бұрын

Here are the things I don't like. I don't like the name "Gnome.' I don't like the 44 numbering system. I don't like that they still have a long way to go to remove xwayland. I don't like they are far from having everything in GTK4. I don't like that the login-manager is not easily customizable. I don't like that there is not a super simple way to get some better wallpapers, although I do realize nearly everybody is going to eventually find the wallpaper of their choice somewhere on the internet. I like Gnome games better than KDE games. However, I would like to see the option of switching to gaming-mode at login and have a totally separate menu for Gnome Games than just the application-icon in the applications list. Most users will probably want no games on their application list. I would like to see new games in GTK4. I still feel that LInux never had the equivalent of Microsoft Pinball from 1998. That was 24 years ago. I do have a question. Is Gnome 44.0 better than MacOS in 2005 ? Or some other comparison ? Windows Me ??

@boronk 9 ай бұрын

Aaah.. gnome... Not having Standard Features... and take it away... crap since 2001...

@kztuptuo7076 11 ай бұрын

12:49 is a BS. we want are ram to be used. Oh yes sure, but for a useful things, like actually doing someting. 3d rendering, gaming, video produce whatever. If your environment takes 1,5 GB just to exist, run that is a shitty environment, that is a pure waste of resourcess. I checked fedora with gnome on quemu 2GB just to run a system doing nothing. Kde 550MB doing nothing, it is less then xfce now a days. So yes gnome is really great if you want to spend aditional money for ram because your DE is a resurce hog

@luckybarrel7829 4 ай бұрын

cough cough tracker-miner-fs-3 cough cough

@RHTORAS Жыл бұрын

Gnome is like systemD bloat and not modular and of course it is not unix friendly. Its A SHAME they did all these to this desktop. Gnome 2 was fine but not 3+. I can see desktop as a matter of preference but think of it: 4 desktops became a reality thanks to the new gnome (Mate, Cinnamon, Budgie and Pantheon). They all exist because gnome is not what it used to.

@violet_droid_xz Жыл бұрын

gnome still lacks of functionality and lack of creativity in the ui

@yt-xe8ws Жыл бұрын

Gnome is an ugly MacOS rip off with even less functionality.

@eddieoconnor4466 Жыл бұрын

Jay?....1st?...that themes music?...OMG!....its AWESOME!....FINALLY "Learn Linux TV" has its PWN themes music that can actually be played!.....like looped in a long night of coding studies!....Perfect in every way! 2nd?...GNOME DEVS FINALLY LISTENED!...I LOVE the guys and gals that develop the Gnome desktop!......Here's what I'm talking about: Create a folder in Files...then DELETE it...do you see that there's NO little Pop-up covering the upper portion of the window anymore!?...so "IF"...."WHILE" (sorry...coding humor) you're deleting a lot of files or a huge file/folder?....you can STILL manipulate OTHER files without having to either close that pop up or in some cases HAVING TO WAIT for it to go away!.....as of this date in Human History?.. The GNome Desktop (In its plain vanilla form!) is now THE BEST DESKTOP ENVIRONMENT TO EVER EXIST...no shade or hatred towards my other well loved desktops..(Cinnamon...Budgie...KDE.....i3wm....OpenBox.....XFCE...LxLE......etc) but of them all for pure perfection?... Gnome is the World Heavyweight Champion!....

@LearnLinuxTV Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! And yes, GNOME rocks!!!