hahahaha, this is true.

The truth hurts, LOL

I’d wager a 340 would do even better

I'd bet on a 100k mile 350 over a built one any-day... That's why you get drag engines from the junk yard

@@thespiritof76.. 360 baby

well atleast he didn't compare a vortec 350 to that 360... then the mopar guys would really be complaining

@@konnerkramer329 If they used 9.5 piston in the 360 and compared it to the vortec 350 would be a good comparison

@@jjtool5800 no unfortunately it wouldn't the vortec 350 makes 400tq and 300hp bone stock on the engine dyno

@@konnerkramer329 that same 360 if it had 10.1 is over 400hp

360 magnum with 9.1 is 320 hp

Would be a good 5% higher everywhere with just another point of compression everything else the same.

fucking A..Dodge is tough as shit

The chevy would probably make even more power once it becomes worn.

@@ericdolby1622 The chevy would probably make even more power once it becomes worn and has a 100 shot on it....

@@ssnerd583 yep. I agree.

Good 'ole smog era.... good riddance

Well, this 350 didn't have stock pistons sooooo...

@@BuzzLOLOL a ported E7TE head will greatly improve flow and probably 40 horse when hogged and done accurately.

Yes the 318 suffered bad to.

That is very true. I measured my ‘90 360 block with the factory 308 heads measured out to 7.8:1. The pistons (going by memory) were .120” in the hole and the heads were 74cc’s (I believe). Can’t remember the CC on the dished pistons off hand, but they were Sealed Power .030” oversized factory style dished pistons.

Hey now, there’s no place for common sense on the internet 😝

Wow hold up there buddy are u thinking rational thoughts? Get the hell outa here MOPAR OR NO CAR GODDAMMIT 😤

What? You mean billion dollar marketing campaigns are basically BS? Who knew? 🤷🏼‍♂️

Right. I've made the same argument for a long time. There are very narrow real advantages from one small block to the next. Ford had equal port spacing, which is advantageous, dodge had better valve angles and raised ports on the exhaust side. Doesn't really matter in the scheme. They're all moving right around the same amount of air so the performance will be similar. Brand loyalists are generally not very intelligent people, I've learned over the years.

@@christophersine84 People that like what they like are stupid?😂🤣🤣

...had a 340 4V 4 spd Dart that had been worked over a bit...it was all laughing at it until I pulled the cut-outs and they could HEAR it....lol that car was QUICK

Simpson speed shop built that 360 to handle 530 hp I believe it can handle more. Would love to see them forced inducted till they popped, since forced induction likes lower compression

Also that 68 super bee with the 383 was a monster in that era

Dodge's overall with stock parts will make more power than the Chevy 350, bow tie guys will not admit this

@@rodneydunnigan9291 We won’t admit it because it’s not true

@@rodneydunnigan9291 Take out the second D and the only E from “Dodge” and you get “Dog” which is what a Dodge is.

@@jacobholinaty49 Still King of Factory Horsepower, Is that true !!! 😂😂😂😂Yes !!!

@@rodneydunnigan9291 well a 350 Vortec will still spank a 360 Magnum any day of the week stock for stock

Mopar = Slocar ;-D

@@corvettejohn4507 Mopar-moment of power are rare.

The 360 will be a bullet, very tough reliable powerful engine. As long as you have high compression.

I agree with you Dave and I'm curious about the 302? How come you don't like it?

@@wildestcowboy2668 Not so much I don't like it as I would not bother with one when the 351W shares almost everything with it and fits in almost everything you would put a 302 in . There are a few oddball swaps you could do where the tiny bit of deck height is critical like a Miata or something, but in general the 351W is a much smoother running more balanced engine with a broader torque curve with less peaky power output. Everything I have run with a 351W was plain fun, even my old Bronco. Magic stuff happens when you take a 302 out of say, a hatchback Mustang, and stick a 351W in there instead, it bolts to the same T5, drops in without modification and all that you really need is to add a couple inches hood clearance in some cases(the Capri i did had a scoop, so it wasn;t needed). the torque curve is smooth, the horsepower is higher- you can take a mildly worked 302 and drop a truck engine 351W with a new intake and big carb on it with a nice exhaust(shared with 302 anyway) and the car is transformed into something completely different. In the land of Ford, when it comes to fun: FE engines that aren;t $$$$$ 351's. Mostly C and W. I count the 400M Worked 289 is a screamer 302 if above isn't available If $$ is no object, then you get stuff like 429Cj's, 427's, 428SCJ, 406 tripower- the stuff rich people will spend new car money on.

yeah !! they would huh

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Unless you have several ls engines in use.

I think it had a gearbox in it and was kind of geared down for more power.

Mopar starters were gear reduction starters....no torn up flywheels....

An engine is just an air pump, so with the exact same mods, the 340 would make less power based on 20 fewer cubes and, more importantly, 3.31 stroke vs. 3.58 for the 360. We built a mild 366 with ported Edelbock RPM heads, Hughes flat-tappet hydraulic cam and dual-plane intake Edelbrock air gap and it made 449 horsepower/453 pound-feet. With a stout roller, it made 529/474. Swap the same parts onto a 340 with the same compression and overall power goes down.

@@wheelbasemedia5814 if you can't be fair on your comparison why even bother. Obviously your bias towards the gm shit. I love putting you Chevy bozos on the trailer . Gm out numbers everyone else 10 to 1. And us underdogs still come up and kick your fucking ass. That's exactly why I'm a Mopar Guy .

@@bradhardy2629 A 10:1 360 is over 400horse with ease. The only Chrysler LA engine that ever had compression is the 340 and it basically destroyed everything.

Dan W. Well actually the 340 wasn't a real power house. Rated from the factory at 275 hp they ran as delivered from the factory about as well as the 300 hp hydraulic lifter Chev 32u. Blue print one and you got around 325 hp. A sharp running 365 hp Chev 327 would beat one and a 350 Lt1 370 hp solid lifter Chev in a 1970 or 71 Camaro would annihilate a 340 Dart or Challenger.. the 360 with more torque and decent compression cam and heads was the better choice.

@@jjtool5800 you re right about the 360. You re wrong about the 340. The hipo 365 and 375 hp 327 Chev and the 350 370 hp solid lifter Chevs beat 340s consistently. Not to mention the hot versions of the 351 Cleveland engine.

jajaajajajajajaa real true .. when speed clock be rise , the gasoline go down .. you have to tow your gas tank .. jajajjaaajajajajaaa

If it had been ran with an electric water pump and no alternator like the 350 it would have made the same power or more.

A lot more

@@BuzzLOLOL horsepower rating from Chevy always seem comparatively high, as most those 350’s couldn’t really out run 340 dart or 340 6bbl cuda’s.

Check out cars and zebra we're 340 duster takes out ZL1

I definitely agree with that buzz running in the 11s with no headers something's going on

And 190 cc truck flows are about the best heads you can find

6.125" Rod on all LA engines

@@joshkeasler512 x a d j heads and w2 and up. I own w2 340, also flow benches aren't always what they seem.

Correct and this makes grudge match racing fun

Exactly why I would never drive a Chevy. Dime a dozen everybody had one . No thanks .

400 mopar has a far bigger bore though lol.

@@frigglebiscuit7484 Bigger than a 440 and makes a Great Stroker

Absolutely! We all know that small stickers are worth 5hp, large are 10hp, and a trashcan for a muffler is an easy 100hp.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Im thining it will be a great daily driver mill for my 46 Ford Coupe

if only he said exactly that in the video!

im torn between jumping on the ls bandwagon or sticking with sbc ive had so much fun with lt1 and vortec 350 i dont want to move on

You can’t lose just be aware that a extreme built old school is only gonna make what a lightly built ls .with stock heads the ls is king once you change heads it changes things but ls is still king by design with bigger camshaft core and high flow heads

@DropDstar i dont use carbs or distributor on sbc its so easy to wire ls coils and efi The only thing that’s holding me back is all the motors I already have

@DropDstar ive also got a few 171702 turbos and several others off semis that are in good condition so i dont think im going to need nitrous to scatter a 500 hp rated rotating assembly im too cheap to buy forged

@@bill2178 remember, ls swaps are not as cheap as people want you to believe....

THAT IS PLANNED

@@richardholdener1727

the live feed are usually 1 hour to answer all the questions

The rocket was a rocket 🚀

The Olds 350 was great on paper. Big bore, able to bolt on a big block head, and six inch connecting rods. Chevy fans back in the day used to drop post 1968 327 cranks into 400 blocks using special oversize bearings, and search for long connecting rods just to get a high rev package like this. Unfortunately the main webs of the Olds 350 are a little thin for four bolt mains. But, find yourself a block made before 1977, and that block can be bored out to a 425 big block piston...365 cid. Find a forged 330 cid crank or a nodular Olds 350 crank, offset grind its stroke to aftermarket six inch long Chevy small block connecting rods, and you're looking at 380 cid. Depending upon the cam, it still may not be enough for the big block heads, tho--Olds found out the small block heads with big block valves were perfect for the Ram Rod/ W31 package.

@@albertgaspar627 my 350 is in stock unrunning fashion in a 71 Cutlass. Its eventually getting an LS but would love some inspiration to get the 350 running to enjoy the project for now and for a future build up for another project

@@Rider0909 You can give your Olds 350 the classic build--4 bbl intake, tune the Q jet, find an HEI, build a 4-4-2 style cold air intake out of dryer hose, and put on relatively small primary headers. Go with a mild cam that builds torque rather than HP at high RPM. Olds were designed for torque to accelerate down the road, so build to its strengths.

@@albertgaspar627 that would be the plan just looking for something i can enjoy and drive daily not trying to race or neccessary impress anyone

I just realized I am on my work account. This is AZMADMONK from last night.

I just wish the Mopar motors had parts with Chevy prices.

I like both but sometimes the Mopar is cheaper because apart from pistons the stock engine is tough and stock parts will make 450 Hp without breaking everything.

@@petergoodwin2465 cheaper??

@@joshkeasler512 sometimes, stock crank and rods handle plenty of power and the valve train will go to 6500 . Can't do that with a Chevy.

@@petergoodwin2465 I ran a roundy round car with stock powdered rods stock 1 pc rear main crank for 3 years at 7200 ,,rpm with stock gm cast heads and a quadrajet

I am going to guess the low compression may have caused the torque dip.

I just bought a 73 360 Dodge Sportsman with an all original PRISTINE 23ft coachmen RV addition

90,000 original miles and it starts on the first crank every time ( although I have to give it 2 quick pumps before I start it when cold which is completely normal for any carbureted motor) but it runs really good and has a nice idle with no smoke whatsoever out the pipes and no leaking anything anywhere…..right now I’m throwing some SEAFOAM thru it….I buy the larger pro size bottle so I can pour half bottle in the oil and half in the fuel …..that is always my method

79k now

Lol sure

318 is more reliable. Take the oil pans off and look at the Crank/mains.... im not trying to be a mopar fan boy and couldn't care less as to a preference over each other but truly no comparison. The small block mopar is built alot stronger

@@ufarkingicehole waaaayyyyyu stronger

so you think a Mopar 318 or 360 will make more power Big Bang style than a SBC or SBF?

@@richardholdener1727 hahahaha. I am going to carefully word this. .. I would say with the much heavier parts inside the small block mopar you will have an extreme amount of rotational energy (stress) from the much heavier crank. The extra rotating mass will create much more stress on the mains. .... so ... i assume the small block chrysler under "normal" loads will hold up better than the small block chevy. Under "Richard Holdener" loads I'm not sure the crank that weighs twice as much as the chevy and three times heavier than fords at 7000 rpm is going to hold up as well. With that said..... sure. With all engines properly balanced I'm sticking with the mopar 🤣 you only live once. I'm willing to bet you already have the answer!

The 882 heads on the Chevy engine are some of the worst heads ever made for the small block Chevy, also they upped the valve size without unshrouding the chambers, that killed the flow of the head. It would have flowed better with the stock size valves.

Yeah and if I see another hot rod with a 350 I'll fall asleep.

@@danw6014 Truly agree. The average rat rod (truck cab on a chassis) is basically a Fad T brought to life--it needs less than 300 hp. The average throw-away Buick V6 made after 1979 can do 1hp per cubic inch without much work, and would put less weight in the chassis. As for the fatter fenders, I truly get how affordable a Chevy small block is after patching up a bunch of sheet metal and doing a 12 volt conversion, and its a period correct engine, but....snnoozzzzze.

@@albertgaspar627 to me it would be interesting to see a souped up stove bolt Chevy, or the leaning tower of power, a flathead Ford V8 or a Firedome out of a Desoto, but I like a nostalgic hot rod.

@@danw6014 Funny you say all that. When my father passed he left a 2007 Chev Colorado single cab, and now that I put enough miles on it, I want to use it to put together a rat rod parts catching truck (I live in the rust belt) since I miss having something to grab all the free stuff on FB Marketplace. I have a 283 lying around that would be...symetrical in looks. But an inliner would be neat, too. If I get another project car with a six holer and enough displacement, I'll try to slip that longer block into the Collie's frame. Not symetrical at all, but jeez, a sixer and a three on the tree to shift it... it would make it worthwhile to not have air conditioning :) Just roll down the window, stick out an elbow, and haul two hours to pick up something free. Wouldn't even bother to factor in the gas cost, it would be just a nice "sunday drive" in an old truck with a more modern suspension for my old back, a sixer with split exhaust thru the old glasspacks hanging in the garage... makes me laugh a little at a young buck who wanted his diesel truck to haul at 100 mph and talked turbos and the like. I'm sure he's having fun showing off...and i'm just the ol' guy one day in the future chuggin' down the road and scanning yards for new projects with an old rat rod truck made of cheap/free parts left over in the garage after years of swap meets and old projects and things folks gave to pay off helping them move.

@@albertgaspar627 I'm more interested in nostalgic hot rods. A souped up inline six would be interesting. It would take creativity to make power and make it fit. But even a flathead Ford or a Firedome Desoto would be more unique.

CHRIS GETS IT

@@richardholdener1727 I liked the 383 mopar versus the 383 chevy...that was a good contrast on engine masters. Same displacement but different results. Marked difference in low end torque and then the curves coincided over the rest of the power range. I'd say the air pumps were different in the 383 test case.

The forged pistons in the chev would make it a little unfair 😜

probably mopar. better bottom end, longer rod, better exhaust port.

The Lunati 256 for my mopar 383 was designed for the larger lifter diameter....and I truly believe it makes a big difference. Steep ramps and long duration are allowed while still having a cam that is tame with good idle.

buuuuuulllshiiiiit xD

Yes exactly right mate , ive got a beast of a 360 and just built a 327 for the wife's impala. You're right, they're all just air pumps and the more you spend the faster they spin. They all were great engines back then. It's just the 3 C s ,cam ,compression and carburetor.

Not my experience at all . Get a chevy red hot over heated. The heads crack. Under the valve seats. The lifters started ticking and burnt the head gaskets right out of the motor. The 360 is way thicker heavier duty block and heads. Let my mopar cool down. I burned the exhaust manifold gaskets out . I changed the oil replaced the gaskets no ticks no knocks ran for another 50k . The Chevy was junk just like it was from the factory.

LA rockers? Quite poor. LA dissy drive,, that over stressed hex,, like a Ford. Mopar can make 400ci easier. Chev block is too short BUT fits in tighter places. Factory 400 Chev is a dog. Though some dogs run quite fast. But not for as long!