RIP Intel: AMD Ryzen 9 5950X CPU Review & Benchmarks (Workstation, Gaming, Overclocking)
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Күн бұрынOur review of the AMD R9 5950X CPU is the first of the Zen 3 CPU benchmarks we're posting. We're also reviewing the AMD R5 5600X, R7 5800X, and R9 5900X, all going up today.
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Our AMD Ryzen 9 5950X CPU review is the first out of the ones we're posting today, with the AMD R5 5600X, R7 5800X, and R9 5900X CPU reviews and benchmarks going live throughout the day. The 5950X is a workstation CPU meant for production workloads, and in this testing, we've tested it mostly stock (with overclocking benchmarks, too) versus the 3950X, 3970X, 10900K, 10980XE, and about a dozen other CPUs. In addition to workstation applications, like testing which CPU is the best for video editing and transcoding, 3D art rendering, Photoshop, and more, we also tested the 5950X for gaming performance. AMD's Zen 3 CPUs have higher IPC and higher frequency, which might mean kicking Intel off the "best for gaming" throne upon which it has sat for over a decade now.
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TIMESTAMPS
00:00 - AMD is NVIDIA-ing Intel
03:52 - All-Core Frequency Validation & Boosting
05:08 - Precision Boost Frequency vs. Thermal Behavior
05:42 - Single-Core Frequency Validation & Boosting
07:22 - V-Ray Benchmarks (AMD R9 5950X vs 3950X, 10980XE, 3970X)
08:47 - Adobe Photoshop CPU Benchmarks (Best CPUs for Photoshop)
10:15 - 7-Zip Benchmark (AMD R9 5950X vs 3950X, 10980XE, 3970X)
11:32 - Blender Cycles CPU Benchmarks
13:19 - FFMPEG CPU Transcoding Benchmarks
14:45 - Chromium Code Compile Benchmarks for Best CPUs
15:05 - Civilization VI Turn Time Benchmarks
16:09 - Red Dead Redemption 2 (Medium, High) CPU Benchmarks
17:09 - Three Kingdoms Best Gaming CPU Benchmarks (1080p, 1440p)
18:46 - The Division 2 CPU Benchmarks
19:19 - Shadow of the Tomb Raider R9 5950X vs 10900K CPU Benchmarks
19:48 - F1 2020 AMD Ryzen 9 5950X Benchmarks
20:56 - Power Consumption of AMD R9 5950X CPU & Overclocks
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@GamersNexus 3 жыл бұрын
Watch our AMD R5 5600X review: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Zpd1m8Wer6e7XZ8.html AMD Ryzen 9 5900X review now live! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/q9qHhrad3sfGmpc.html 5600X, 5800X, & 5900X reviews are coming next! Up later today. Support GN's in-depth testing! Grab a GN Bar: store.gamersnexus.net/products/gn-bar-runner-bar-mat-spill-guard-24-x-5 (bar mats are in stock and shipping now!) Our Wireframe Desk-Sized Mouse Mats are on back-order and will be shipping soon! store.gamersnexus.net/products/gn-wireframe-mouse-mat CPU Testing Methodology (this has been updated for FFMPEG, new Windows, and with an EVGA RTX 3080 FTW3, but is otherwise the same): kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qc1pisqortHMpok.html
@weltsiebenhundert 3 жыл бұрын
Did you forgot the conclusion part? The timestamp. i always watch start and end.
@justme8675 3 жыл бұрын
Hail Tech Jesus
@BrianCairns 3 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to the reviews. Based on what I've seen from Anandtech's benchmarks, the 5800X is the CPU to get for gaming. It wins against the 5900X/5950X more often than not in games, probably because it's a single CCX (so lower memory latency like the 3300X) and at least most games can't take advantage of the extra cores on the 5900X/5950X.
@KasperLidegaard 3 жыл бұрын
What ram should I get for the 5800x
@redgar7111 3 жыл бұрын
5600x gang
@nasseq 3 жыл бұрын
I like this marketing trend of "At least" instead of "At most" or "up to"
@DrSmugface 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah they still wrote up to in the presentation ..but they now you buy a CPU and can stleast expect that under good cooling it also hits those numbers ..
@herrakaarme 3 жыл бұрын
You have to admit it's pretty funny Steve contacted AMD to ask about the CPU being too fast, to get an answer saying it's okay if it's too fast.
@neoqueto 3 жыл бұрын
Just yesterday I had this conversation with a friend, that if a company is advertising "up to" figures, they also should be required to clearly inform consumers about the "guaranteed" figures of a given product, that was in the context of battery life, but applies to frequency or overall performance as well.
@tomhsia4354 3 жыл бұрын
I get the feeling that type of thing will only happen under two conditions. A) It's from AMD B) They are absolutely dominating the competition.
@ShawFujikawa 3 жыл бұрын
Honesty has a high price tag in the current business climate, but luckily AMD is swimming in performant products.
@originalscreenname44 3 жыл бұрын
The snark about the 2700X's 199 FPS being completely unplayable is the level of humor that keeps me watching.
@earthtaurus5515 3 жыл бұрын
The 2700X in my PC must have been chuckling as the CPU fan ramped up for abit.... 😶. It made me stop laughing and wonder wtf was going on lol...
@mr_confuse 3 жыл бұрын
@@earthtaurus5515 The 2700(x) is still such a good piece of hardware, I'm so glad I went with the 8c/16t CPU instead of cheaping out...
@erzei 3 жыл бұрын
@@earthtaurus5515 it knows...
@charlesleavitt13 3 жыл бұрын
My OC 2700X running 4.2ghz all core feels personally attacked 😂
@demoniack81 3 жыл бұрын
@@charlesleavitt13 I'm at 4.15 because to get 4.2 I have to increase vcore substantially. I got it to 4.3 for shits and giggles but I had to increase the vcore so much that during p95 it shot up to 250W package power and even with an NH-D15 it reached 101° in just a couple minutes, so I had to terminate the test. At 4.15 I stay under 160W and 80° even in sustained prime95. On the other hand I can't seem to get my 3200 memory at 3000MHz stable no matter how much I overvolt the SOC, and I've never booted past 3000. I don't know if it's a compatibility issue with the board or the CPU itself, but currently I'm running at 2866 and I'm sad.
@p4radigm989 3 жыл бұрын
intel: benchmarks don't really matter, it's all about how a CPU makes you feel.
@DanielMether 3 жыл бұрын
it makes me feel like going AMD lol.
@p4radigm989 3 жыл бұрын
@@DanielMether R5 3600 - best CPU I ever had :)
@neverendingsummer44 3 жыл бұрын
Make me feel like I made the right choice switching to amd.
@fnamelname9077 3 жыл бұрын
"We want every frame rendered to give customers a sense of pride and accomplishment."
@Nooboroshi 3 жыл бұрын
Intel makes me feel sad.
@K31TH3R 3 жыл бұрын
22:21 Let's take a moment to think about this. The 5950X is drawing just 15.6 more watts more than a 10600K. You're getting 10 more cores and 20 more threads, all with stronger single thread performance, for just 15.6 watts. Let that sink in for a moment.
@cyangalaxy 3 жыл бұрын
I would NEVER let that sink WAITING outside my DOOR😡
@gustavosifuentes292 3 жыл бұрын
well, it makes total sense since the 10600k is still 14nm++++++++
@nickhero6329 3 жыл бұрын
@@cyangalaxy not even for just a moment?
@cyangalaxy 3 жыл бұрын
@@nickhero6329 😰😏🥵 NO NO AND TRIPPLE NO. He's coming in MY house DIRECTLY, without A delay. Whether HE wants IT, OR not! HERE in this COUNTRY, in mY KITCHEN, THERE *IS* an AURORA BOEARlias Bauuauauauauau bauauauauauauauaua. aaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh *shits and dies*
@CarlJohnson234 3 жыл бұрын
@@gustavosifuentes292 Which in reality is the same old 8700K, just better binned and with "different" socket
@Mack_N_Cheez 3 жыл бұрын
"We should put something from intel on here... just so it doesn't look like we've forgotten about them" Hoo wee 17 seconds in and he's already bringing the heat
@erikburzinski8248 3 жыл бұрын
If he says any more he might start melting intell with his come backs.
@awilliams1701 3 жыл бұрын
all you have to do is show the red dead charts and you can get away with leaving them out. hahahaaha it's the only chart that intel won.
@jamerican347 3 жыл бұрын
Read this when he said it.
@LiLBitsDK 3 жыл бұрын
a brilliant ROAST... Intel's nuts were not roasting over a little fire... it was a full on volcano
@Shuubox 3 жыл бұрын
Gets better, cause the 5900X nets you more FPS in games than the 5950X...
@Leonsimages 3 жыл бұрын
I'm seriously impressed... how fast Steve can pronounce "5950X" lol
@vrplaythrough626 3 жыл бұрын
About the same speed they were out of stock
@sirius4k 3 жыл бұрын
His side hussle is being an auctioneer.
@vrplaythrough626 3 жыл бұрын
@@sirius4k only for amd products
@sirius4k 3 жыл бұрын
@@vrplaythrough626 Unlikely
@banu6301 3 жыл бұрын
50 9 50 x whats so hard
@st3althyone 3 жыл бұрын
“AMD’s marketed specs are meant to be an “at least” this time, not an “at most and maybe sometimes if you live in fantasy land.” Stephen sure has a way with words! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Austin1990 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely, and I am very excited that AMD went this way. And, it is disappointing that AMD needed pressure to correct this.
@chrisbullock6477 3 жыл бұрын
Amazingly though as we've seen they understated and over delivered
@AlexanderMichelson 3 жыл бұрын
He is called Tech Jesus for a reason, you know.
@GigglesClown 2 жыл бұрын
Lol read that 2 seconds before he said it, was like magic
@Operational117 3 жыл бұрын
Seeing this brings a smile to my face: no more stagnation. At last we have some performance gains at CPU-bound levels. If the 5600X *does indeed* have better performance, I’m looking forward to that review. *But Intel better not sleep on their jobs... lest AMD becomes the new Intel (with stagnation and unwillingness to improve).*
@RobBCactive 3 жыл бұрын
The 6 core isn't as quick, lower boost/silicon quality but it's $500 cheaper
@craigdaurizio686 3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately though we could have stagnation. Jim Keller left Intel early due to infighting, he probably didn't have time to fully develop his new design. Plus Intel is having trouble with their in house fabs.
@khangvinh4656 3 жыл бұрын
@@craigdaurizio686 yeah, I feel like at the moment, intel is more economically but AMD is literally a beast. Intel really need to push their development.
@SuperSushiRoll 3 жыл бұрын
I doubt AMD Will follow in intels path. The problem was intel spent/cut revenue to conduct anticompetitive activity, such as cutting deals with OEMs to make garbage AMD products in return for cheaper chips. If intel had just stayed the competitive path, and invested more into R&D they'd be better off now.
@obinator9065 3 жыл бұрын
@@SuperSushiRoll this is what every company will do if they can afford it. Y’know stonks. The big ones don’t care too much about a single user.
@ICEMANZIDANE 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you AMD. Just imagine, for 1 second, AMD doesnt do all of this and we are stuck on 14nm Intel chips with high prices and no real performance boost compared to earlier generations. We WOULDNT even know that we are getting screwed that much.
@MichaelPohoreski 3 жыл бұрын
Who knew that Intel literally held quad-core gaming back a decade!
@Xelard08 3 жыл бұрын
True I remember years ago I moved from a i5 4th to 7th to get not even 10% performance increase. 3 gens and that's what we got geez
@kintustis 3 жыл бұрын
We MIGHT have had a 6 core by now
@aliefr2984 3 жыл бұрын
@@kintustis and 6 core will just be releases in 2020 to combat ps5 or xbox series x lol
@AidGum 3 жыл бұрын
It was AMD’s fault that they ended up sucking for the first part of the decade and prompting Intel to become a monopoly.
@nocteexmortis979 3 жыл бұрын
Good Lord, I totally blanked that there’s going to be a new Threadripper for this generation. What kind of nightmare monster are they going to bring out for that??
@denverbasshead 3 жыл бұрын
You wont see a new threadripper for a loooong time
@f.m.f962 3 жыл бұрын
There wont be a new Threadripper lmao... unless Intel releases a new Xeon thats actually competitive then maybe
@Zarcondeegrissom 3 жыл бұрын
it will be 'Epyc'', lol. sorry, couldn't resist, I'm sure TR will be nice as hell with the CCX layout for some VM tasks. IPC, clocks, etc.
@dalehammers4425 3 жыл бұрын
@Brandon S You sound salty bro.
@chansaechao79 3 жыл бұрын
Oh my lord! Right?
@riccochet704 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, AMD, for not giving up! It's only been 14 years since you were competitive. And every second of that wait has been worth it!
@samuellp1146 2 жыл бұрын
That was when i built my first gaming computer. Welp I am building my second one now since then.
@xjohnlangerijs527 2 жыл бұрын
But always... innovative. Namasté.
@Takrit. 3 жыл бұрын
GN: "Our bar mat is spill proof" Cat: "I'm about to end this man's whole career"
@falxonPSN 3 жыл бұрын
Holy crap. This is utter carnage. Guess I know what I'll put in my pc refresh next year.
@talhahussain3820 3 жыл бұрын
I thought this was in a hour. Ain't got my popcorn yet.
@sandiaswara1940 3 жыл бұрын
Lucky I have many stocks of potato chips in the kitchen
@PanduPoluan 3 жыл бұрын
@Talha Did you not learn from how fast GN released a video after Zen 3 launch and also after RDNA 2 launch? 😆
@RS250Squid 3 жыл бұрын
The CPUs on Scan sold out in 9 minutes, and in 20 minutes they'd stopped taking additional preorders completely. At one point 1000+ people were on the site buying the 5950X at the same time! To Scan's credit, their website stayed up (albeit somewhat slow) and working the whole time!
@azurai3934 3 жыл бұрын
@@RS250Squid That is a lot better compared to how the 3000 series launched tbf.
@RS250Squid 3 жыл бұрын
@@azurai3934 yeah definitely. I ordered my card 6 weeks ago and im still in the mid 50s in the queue for my particular model.
@trevorbeingtrevor 3 жыл бұрын
These reviews are so helpful and detailed thank-you!!
@swdev245 3 жыл бұрын
I still remember 2006 when Intel released Core 2 Duo and took the performance crown away from AMD for 1.5 decades. Maybe this is AMD's revenge for Athlon 64.
@fishyc43sar 3 жыл бұрын
Intel succeeded cuz of 3 things: - Core 2 - Bribing OEMs AMD lost cuz of 3 things: - Core 2 - not being as dishonest as Intel - Purchase of ATi caused losses, atleast then. [Back then]
@m8x425 3 жыл бұрын
@@fishyc43sar Almost all of the engineers that worked on the Athlon 64 were gone by the time Core 2 came out.
@TheG60528XiJinPing 3 жыл бұрын
@@fishyc43sar That ati acquisition sure payed off in the long run as someone who only plays Battlefield, Assassin's Creed and Forza.
@fishyc43sar 3 жыл бұрын
@@m8x425 yeah tho. But I want to know one thing - why did they? Internal politics.
@fishyc43sar 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheG60528XiJinPing wait. Yeah, it was good for the long run; but afaik, Assassin's Creed works better on nVidia and Forza is better on Radeon. Where am I wrong?
@vaibhavalung9280 3 жыл бұрын
When embargo is over but GN deserves the first watch!
@pedro4205 3 жыл бұрын
Saw a MSI tweet and rush here
@TechyBen 3 жыл бұрын
I came here second, just because I know I won't watch any other video after the roast from Steve... as I won't NEED to. and wanted to catch a bit of the LTT video. XD
@lordsethos2000 3 жыл бұрын
100% truth
@2ACruel 3 жыл бұрын
I actually watch LTT first as more entertainment high level info, then move to the more technical like GN.
@Novers 3 жыл бұрын
Ltt first so I know if it good or bad for the parts that go over my head
@mateofantasma 3 жыл бұрын
BTW, great review Steve+Gamers´ Nexus team. Super thorough and easy to understand.
@cristiat Жыл бұрын
Steve-O, you da man! Thanks a lot (to you and the team behing the curtains) for taking the time to give us these reviews!
@SonicDestiny 3 жыл бұрын
There are still alot of 5950x in my local shop. No stock issues at all..... OOps I jinxed it is already sold out XD It is bundled even with Far Cry 6
@corpsrunner1118 3 жыл бұрын
I got mine hehe xd
@brendanr4961 3 жыл бұрын
Did they get botted or just sold?
@Thornfrey 3 жыл бұрын
In our local shop it was in stock 30 minutes after launch.... now is in stock only 5800x. Imo good for a launch. :)
@corpsrunner1118 3 жыл бұрын
@@brendanr4961 I bought mine clicking like a madman on amds website. Whole site was lagging and my Cart was empty. And suddenly after about 30seconds a lot of processors showed up beeing in my cart. I then kicked out everything I didnt want and only bought my new processor. Im pretty sure the website got bottet. Thats gonna be a hard time getting my hands on that 6900XT
@mrfrozex1 3 жыл бұрын
My 5950x is on its way, getting it tomorrow :)
@callidusvulpes5556 3 жыл бұрын
RIP Intel - 2020 They always loved creating incremental improvements in their products.
@entranced98 3 жыл бұрын
@Brandon S troll xD
@callidusvulpes5556 3 жыл бұрын
@Frenk It was a joke and no Intel isn't dead, but they are losing out on COLOSSAL amounts of money (and market share) due to it being Q4 holiday season during Covid when everyone is inside looking to game. Intel's market share was already dropping rapidly before this launch now it's going to drop even faster.
@perseus4531 3 жыл бұрын
🔥
@callidusvulpes5556 3 жыл бұрын
@Brandon S Lol, I never thought I'd here the words "AMD is for benchmark chasers". AMD? Benchmark chasers? I want whatever your smoking. I've never heard anyone say that in over a decade. Lol, there is ONE AMD release and suddenly the Intel fanboys start whining "AMD is for benchmark chasers" like they've been the value option all along. Those "all that is ever needed" incremental improvements hampered the gaming industry and evidence of that is the amount of recycled games that occurred in that era compared to the amount of graphically intense games coming out now (it's just starting in the AAA sector). Games are starting to use multiple cores because of AMD and there is starting to be performance problems using 4c/8t chips in games (it's starting at the 0.1% and 1% lows, 4c/4t chips are practically unusable for most AA/AAA titles) and 4 core chips are already garbage when it comes to anything production related. Those 150 Xeons will do well in production for their price, but meh when it comes to gaming (you should be able to play most games at average settings 1080p 60fps, but if you're looking to play most games you can find 6 core Xeons that will do that for 25 USD, maybe less). Soon almost every new performance-demanding release will use 8 cores due to consoles getting 8 cores that happen to not be shitty jaguars and this only happened because of AMD.
@craigdaurizio686 3 жыл бұрын
@Brandon S It sounds like you're corporate boot licking. Intel was mad milking people. When I first bought an i5 2400 it was 189 CAD, when I bought the 4690k it was 315 CAD on sale. Look at the benchmarks for 4790k to 7700k, lol why even bother releasing new CPU at that pace? And obviously you're wrong that it's all that is needed, because AMD was not doing well at all and was still reeling from over a decade of lost business due to Intel's dirty practices, they needed to come back strong to save the company, not chase benchmarks. Plus there were a bunch of nitwits that believed they needed a $500 cpu for 1080p high refresh and they ate up the 9900k when it came out even though the 2600 was was a better price/perf ratio. Clearly people want performance to keep rising.
@MickehPuppeh 3 жыл бұрын
This is like the perfect chip for me. I do workstation tasks on my computer, and then in the evening, I play games to unwind. This does both of those things extremely well, at a price that doesn't make me wanna jump off a bridge. Managed to order one today, and it's coming tomorrow! I'm excited!
@ConductiveFoam 3 жыл бұрын
Have you gotten the chip yet, and if you have how do you like it so far? I'm considering getting one for my new build, or waiting a bit seeing what threadripper parts are coming in early 2021.. I also do workstation tasks, mostly code compilation.
@MickehPuppeh 3 жыл бұрын
@@ConductiveFoam I have it, but unfortunately, a BIOS bug in my motherboard is causing it to perform more like a 3950X at stock settings. I'm not the only one affected by this, it seems, but it's not getting as much coverage as it really should.
@ConductiveFoam 3 жыл бұрын
@@MickehPuppeh Ah damn, that's unfortunate. Thanks for the info, I'll keep that in mind. Hope it gets resolved soon!
@wdunn06 3 жыл бұрын
How is it now? Which mobo do you have?
@MickehPuppeh 3 жыл бұрын
@@wdunn06 Got an MSI mobo, but the only fix that worked is getting a new chip. It's better - still not quite where it should be, but close enough.
@rodrirm 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome review, I need to see the other 3 now!
@junes2k 3 жыл бұрын
Im building a pc in the new year. Replacing my day 1 pre ordered 1700 & a radeon 480. Im so excited I cant stand it!
@odizzido 3 жыл бұрын
swapping a 1000 series ryzen for a 5000 series one is one heck of a good upgrade. AMD did really well here to support the socket through such massive performance upgrades.
@dalehammers4425 3 жыл бұрын
Currently building one myself. Current rig is an i5 3340 running a GT 1030 lol. Building full AMD rig that currently is gonna be a 2200g and a 8 GB 580. Gonna upgrade to the 5600X in a couple months though.
@lukefreeman828 3 жыл бұрын
@@odizzido I’ll be upgrading my FX based APU A10-7870k to a 5600X and dGPU. Stonks 😂
@chansaechao79 3 жыл бұрын
I'm happy for you. I started on the 2600x. Then went from the 3600 to the 3600X on a new motherboard with 4000Mhz RAM. OMG it was a huge boost in gaming performance! Just ordered the 5600X this morning from NewEgg and I'm all giddy.
@easley421 3 жыл бұрын
@@chansaechao79 🤦♂️
@Dogwater420 3 жыл бұрын
Drinking Game: Evey time tech jesus says „fiffynine fiffyex“ take a shot
@DB-tv6kh 3 жыл бұрын
LOL he said it just as I was reading the comment.. perfect sync
@frealms 3 жыл бұрын
My doctor said no
@QactisX 3 жыл бұрын
I have to work today!
@ruxxie 3 жыл бұрын
@@frealms your doc have no idea.. how dead you will be :D
@nicholassmile5800 3 жыл бұрын
I was going to upvote. But left it at 69 likes.
@cattigereyes1 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting information! Thanks!
@bigogle 3 жыл бұрын
That was a whirlwind! Very grateful you managed to get all that info into less than half an hour.
@Dr.RichardBanks 3 жыл бұрын
"Embarrassing, is the right word for intel right now." I felt that.
@raulsantos6394 3 жыл бұрын
F
@timothygibney5656 3 жыл бұрын
Good. They earned it. I am still stuck with Intel as software is still optimized or works with an Intel CPU. I am looking at you Android Studio and Hyper-v
@Dr.RichardBanks 3 жыл бұрын
@@timothygibney5656 hopefully they'll revise them for more optimization as more market share favors AMD and you can switch. At least intels next gen isn't too far away.
@timothygibney5656 3 жыл бұрын
@Dizzy Gear VMware Workstation is an abomination. Sorry I can't figure yet how to get more than 200k transfer speed from my raid 0 disks and the AMD filter driver on my phenomII 8 years ago always conflicted with the guest tools. Esx is a different product but I am all hyper-v for home use as it's the fastest and least hassle of any solution. It runs on AMD CPUs but it can't do nested virtualization for my exams unlike Intel. At work of course AMD is years away from the data center and you use what Dell gives you
@trashandchaos 3 жыл бұрын
@Brandon S Hope you enjoy your 100% of your chip that runs 80% as well.
@PowerRifff 3 жыл бұрын
I'm just more down to earth. Can't afford a CPU like that anyway. I can't wait to see how Ryzen 3 5xxx will crush the market.
@wisdoom9153 3 жыл бұрын
Oh hey, fellow budget pc builder!
@QactisX 3 жыл бұрын
Then you just wait for 5300X to launch and you'll be a happy camper. Or wait for next year and get a 5600x
@bromazepam781 3 жыл бұрын
Amen, brother!
@QactisX 3 жыл бұрын
@Brandon S I have a 3600 ($170) and looking at these benchmarks my CPU operates at like half the performance of these top CPUs, but I have 0 issues with the CPU or performance on my computer
@alexmarchenko457 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for including code compilation benchmarks.
@SirNickyT 3 жыл бұрын
Lisa Su is somewhere right now tapping her fingers together like Mr. Burns saying, "Eeeeexcellent"
@homelessEh 3 жыл бұрын
6:00 lol so your saying that these new cpus run faster then advertised and its not a feature just how it is. lol Noice..
@autumn5592 3 жыл бұрын
Potentially faster, depending on the quality of the sillicon you get, which is random whenever you buy any CPU.
@SirAndras 3 жыл бұрын
He clarified that instead of doing the whole "UP TO XXGhz" and only managing it for like a few seconds, they went with a much better humble "AT LEAST" instead. So you buy it and think "Well it does at least this, and anything else I get is a great bonus!" instead of thinking "Fuck, they said it would be XX but it only did it for a second!". I wish more companies did that tbh. That's a much nicer way to do it. Pleasantly surprise people rather than "almost lie" to them.
@Spartan536 3 жыл бұрын
Talk about a win-win for the consumer.... so the lowest expected clock speed is their max... now that is marketing I can completely get behind
@ShenLong991 3 жыл бұрын
@@SirAndras That may also be a lesson learned by AMD on the backlash from the 3900X Launch and the "The CPUs dont target 4,XGHz Boost for long" issue or whatever that was. So nothing to say against that from my side.
@krys8494 3 жыл бұрын
Anthrax the porsche way
@gustavokaski 3 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to see zen 3 in laptops after seeing that power consumption chart.
@easley421 3 жыл бұрын
Must seem like witchcraft or magic to Intel
@soliderarmatang5664 3 жыл бұрын
amazing review quality as always!
@sinzies 3 жыл бұрын
Oh boy oh boy :) so excited for the following reviews. As always so many things I didn't understand, but worth for those I did :)
@jeffkuzzen 3 жыл бұрын
It will be interesting to see how much extra performance they get when paired with a 6800/6800xt/6900xt GPU, with that Smart Access Memory
@amashaziz2212 3 жыл бұрын
U posted the same comment at LTT.
@1idd0kun 3 жыл бұрын
Oh yes, wanna see the whole combo with SAM active.
@jamzqool 3 жыл бұрын
intels dead already, no need to dug the carcass anymore :v
@Xwartu 3 жыл бұрын
@@amashaziz2212 It’s a good question
@HollowRick 3 жыл бұрын
About 2%
@facepalm7345 3 жыл бұрын
Yesssssssssssssss I've been waiting forever for this
@WilliamTheGamer 3 жыл бұрын
Got my order in today. Very Excite!
@skitariisoldier7367 Жыл бұрын
Just ordered one of these! Can't wait.
@Alecxace 3 жыл бұрын
The obliteration! I just wanna see the 5900x, my soon to be CPU. Imagine the performance leap going from a i5 7400 to a Ryzen 9 5900x!
@ImBananaElite 3 жыл бұрын
What about my i5 3570 that is bottlenecking my gtx 1070 ?
@NastyStankyChicken 3 жыл бұрын
Just got the 5900x upgrading from a 5820k
@Bourinos02 3 жыл бұрын
@@ImBananaElite W3680 reporting in :D
@doctorthee 3 жыл бұрын
Looking to upgrade from the 6600k, sadly the 5900x is 580 euro over here (680 dollar).
@cosmicgamingunlimited 3 жыл бұрын
I have the i5-7600, lol. It did it's job, it's now time to take it out back and put it down.
@ryan225360 3 жыл бұрын
Steve, I used to think LTT was the gold standard for reviews. NO LONGER. In my professional opinion, you now make the best data driven reviews on the internet. Well done.
@Photo-Jay 3 жыл бұрын
LTT does too much talking about feels. And just puts up a quick slideshow of a few basic benchmarks with barely any specificity. It's called Linux Media Group for a reason.
@zetsubou3704 3 жыл бұрын
@@Photo-Jay Linus*
@earthtaurus5515 3 жыл бұрын
@Ryan IDK . LTT mostly is about entertainment now lol. Gotta get them clicks to pay the staff so I personally don't really hold it against them. Now, GN is my go to source for tech reviews and news. Rest of the techsphere is second.
@Photo-Jay 3 жыл бұрын
@@zetsubou3704 Meh auto-correct nonsense, I'm sure you know about it.
@zetsubou3704 3 жыл бұрын
@@Photo-Jay Eh happens to all of us :)
@MrDrago1954 3 жыл бұрын
As Always, Thank You Steve. Looking forward to the other AMD CPU reviews.
@SmokeytheBeer 3 жыл бұрын
Zen 3 Threadripper is going to be insane for workstations. The performance for R9 5950x is really impressive too.
@darrenuk83 3 жыл бұрын
"Medic! We need a medic down here"
@backupplan6058 3 жыл бұрын
Think at this stage a priest would be more appropriate.
@cowthedestroyer 3 жыл бұрын
Intel needs an Uber at this point
@Sombra. 3 жыл бұрын
So, this is like christmas time for customers, oh yep, the stock stuff xd
@Cermedia 3 жыл бұрын
Need a Christmas miracle to get your hands on one of these...
@VorpalGun 3 жыл бұрын
Not really, they raised the price. And I assume these will also be out of stock for a long time.
@VerticalStrafes 3 жыл бұрын
Got a 5900x on b&h
@CinderFall96 3 жыл бұрын
More like Christmas shopping for next Christmas
@Zwackelmann173 3 жыл бұрын
I got the 5800X. it was instock for almost an hour. Not like Nvidia...
@sirknight1324 3 жыл бұрын
@Gamers Nexus I am just now realizing that Steve said over the next 24hrs the videos will be out, so the next two will come out tomorrow/technically later today. Thank you for the in depth videos. I am thinking about getting one of the bar mats to put on my wall.
@chrisdebruin264 3 жыл бұрын
Remember, remember the fifth of November.
@etmargallo 3 жыл бұрын
this day will go down in the cpu history books
@bb-sw6ur 3 жыл бұрын
@Warm Soft Kitty The month that AMD bunnyhopped both of its major competitors Nvidia and Intel in GPU and CPU performance/value not relevant? k.
@silmupelaa6349 3 жыл бұрын
V
@pablogonzalezhermosilla4210 3 жыл бұрын
@Warm Soft Kitty The salt, the salt is everywhere... I can taste it...
@pablogonzalezhermosilla4210 3 жыл бұрын
@Warm Soft Kitty You are giving me hypertension my dude, stop it.
@HaydenRoberts08 3 жыл бұрын
Forgot this was launch day and was randomly looking at my favourite etailers when I see the 5000 series for sale and in stock! I was tempted to get one but thought I’d check if review embargos were lifted (which they are), went back to the store and bam, all gone. Oh well, I can drool for free I guess haha.
@Bannockburn111 3 жыл бұрын
You are lucky to even see them in stock at all. The only thing I saw in stock, at multiple outlets, was the 5600X, and that didn't last long either.
@TheGauges420 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like it sucks though, to utilize a processor like the 5900x properly, you need their 6900XT, to get the performance needed to justify even buying the CPU lol.
@balpreetsingh3875 3 жыл бұрын
@@Bannockburn111 who said that
@michaelkeudel8770 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheGauges420 nope, he's not using an unreleased gpu on his testing here, you'll get even better performance when those GPU's do get released. This performance review is on current existing and buyable hardware.
@TheGauges420 3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelkeudel8770 I know he isnt. They arent released yet. But with this Rage Mode and smart access memory, we might be seeing some insane things coming from AMD. I'm actually legit excited about finally getting an AMD card for myself... I've only ever had a 2600x, then switched to a 3700x because I found it for $100, and my GPU was an MSI Duke RTX 2070 OC 8gb, and then 1 week before 3080 'launched' I snagged an MSI 2080ti Gaming X Trio for just $450 cash... but I want a 5800x/6800XT, but I may go 5900x just because I dont have a budget really, I have $1,500 I can spend, and I've already got all the storage I need, a B550 and an x570 (b550 is better tbh), I've got the case and PSU I need, all i have to get is a GPU/CPU and I'll be golden. Hopefully they'll be in stock soon.
@Iantrypsk 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video, i'm really engaged by this content
@RishmeSheriff 3 жыл бұрын
Love this guys detail review but they can be crazy long feel like I am back in collage on a math module. Thank god for the summary.
@Sw0nk0 3 жыл бұрын
I love how unbiased you always are in your reviews. Always reviewing based on numbers and statistic instead of personal preference. This is the main reason I subscribed to this channel. Keep up the awesome work!
@campkira 3 жыл бұрын
reminder.. the number is only what they did at the tme.. don't mean it alway... right now.. it still not that much differnt..
@GrimpakTheMook 3 жыл бұрын
Where's that "OOOOOFFF" pic when you need it?
3 жыл бұрын
RAGE MODE
@temp50 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the code compilation tests. I would also like to see (I mean I'm begging for :D) virtualization-related tests as well.
@GhengisJohn 3 жыл бұрын
The story of AMD and Intel over the last few years is like a retelling of the tortoise and the hare.
@NitrousXProductions 3 жыл бұрын
Just ordered the 5900x I'm grinning. Cos now I'll be going from Intel I7 5930k to this
@VerticalStrafes 3 жыл бұрын
Where?
@tristanweide 3 жыл бұрын
May I ask how you managed to even find one? I'm pretty sure they're as rare as unicorns
@Korodarn 3 жыл бұрын
Sold out everywhere now, good job
@NicoD3000 3 жыл бұрын
Going from a i7 4790k to the 5600x... so hyped
@topedoworks 3 жыл бұрын
That is such a huge upgrade.
@MadPotoo 3 жыл бұрын
Always pick GN's review for all the new launches first, that way you don't feel like you to watch any of the other ones!
@th3h0tpegla35 3 жыл бұрын
This is what I've been waiting for! Thank you so much for providing us with so much useful data. Can't believe AMD is actually winning in single-threaded workloads!
@Wardecke 3 жыл бұрын
Cmon, nobody is going to talk about the perfect shot with the cat? i mean it spilled the glass perfectly in the mat!
@oneofmanyjames-es1643 3 жыл бұрын
"Cool, I'm building a new PC so I'll check stock" **There is no stock** "Here we go again..."
@genericnpc08 3 жыл бұрын
All the stores near me have it. Which is better than the Nvidia launch.
@oneofmanyjames-es1643 3 жыл бұрын
@@genericnpc08 Good for you. In my entire country Zen 3 CPUs are completely unavailable.
@d4t6ix 3 жыл бұрын
@@oneofmanyjames-es1643 We had zero 5900x's allocated per country. The other SKUs were available for a few minutes tough.
@genericnpc08 3 жыл бұрын
@@oneofmanyjames-es1643 it really depends by country. Just be patient.
@Lead_Foot 3 жыл бұрын
It took me about 2 weeks of trying to get a 3950x after it launched.
@ColonelCoffee 3 жыл бұрын
alright, so quick report from germany: Didn't even take an hour before almost all stock has been sold out already, and now the only offers i can find, which btw don't even list an ETA, are at least 20% over MSRP. I wonder if AMD just didn't build enough stock or everyone seriously needs a PC upgrade (it's all probably bots anyway) Update: I was wrong, some places still list the 5800x at MSRP though i doubt that will last, whereas at least one major retailer didn't list the CPUs yet
@j0my77 3 жыл бұрын
Kind of a different story over here in Australia, 1 etailer alone said they had a minimum of 1000 chips for November, there are quite a few etailers here and it was one of the smaller ones, so there seems to be quite a large amount of stock for this remote part of the world. Technically our launch was pre-order like as the chips are actually arriving in stock on Monday (again we are on the other side of the world and covid is still going on effecting shipping). Also curiously the suppliers are saying that there is more stock of the 16 core than the 12 core. Also the etailers have stuck to the offical AMD MSRP and there has been no price increases, which is the exact opposite over nvidia and intel releases here. Oh the 6 core was still available about 10 hrs after launch too.
@willywonka7932 3 жыл бұрын
Don't buy from scalpers and wait for them to restock then you good
@NJcinemaHD 3 жыл бұрын
Including the cattio in the "look we can spill stuff on it!" marketing was awesome:D
@Albert-ed3hg 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your efforts Steve! Regardless my not needing a dedicated workstation, I've ordered a 5950X and gaming is going to rock!! Check this out, this totally new 5950X build is replacing my current "old" Intel i7 965 CPU build:) Night and day!!
@supersimon126 3 жыл бұрын
Take a shot for every time Steve says "Fiftyninefifty-X"
@JLCPazaran 3 жыл бұрын
rekt'd my liver
@chocoblocko9 3 жыл бұрын
Is that not how you're supposed to say it
@criznittle968 3 жыл бұрын
ran out of bullets
@DukeLaze 3 жыл бұрын
Managed to snag a 5900x before they sold out here :o Stock at launch: 50 5600X, 50+ 5800X, 40 5900X, unknown 5950X All sold out in sub 3 minutes. *Edit, I should mention that I had put notifications on all the new CPUs. Not a single one landed in my inbox before they were sold out
@ayethe4603 3 жыл бұрын
Was searchi.g for it by name still couldn't find it only the r9 3900 came up
@trisjack82 3 жыл бұрын
I can find the 5800x, seems to be decent stock here
@DukeLaze 3 жыл бұрын
@@ayethe4603 aw that sucks :( Have you found it yet? Sold out?
@ayethe4603 3 жыл бұрын
@@DukeLaze only ebay has them and not paying 200 to 500 upmark:/
@DukeLaze 3 жыл бұрын
@@ayethe4603 Aw, damn scalpers... :(
@jjdizz1l 3 жыл бұрын
Great review. Much appreciated.
@movax20h 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Steve. I hope you are doing great. Thanks for a funny review and keeping us updated. Any plans for more mountain bike ramblings? I liked that.
@happygimp0 3 жыл бұрын
6:25 That is great. More companies should market the typical and lower performance and not the maximum performance that you might get under ideal conditions.
@Revenant_Knight 3 жыл бұрын
It's nice to see AMD and Intel competing hard against each other. It's a great time to build a new PC.
@sonicacoustics9176 3 жыл бұрын
This is a cool review. Very informative. :)
@Kevin-jb2pv 3 жыл бұрын
The most impressive thing about all of this is how you got that cat to knock that glass over perfectly on the bar mat.
@Saintbow 3 жыл бұрын
Intel: "Consider this Mercy" AMD during the FX day's: "Tell me, do you bleed?" *Ryzen Later* AMD Ryzen 9 5950X: "Well, here I am" Intel: "Wait, can we talk?"
@joefowble 3 жыл бұрын
I am wondering if the fx CPUs being included in power consumption charts is just the testing/video folks passive-aggressively suggesting Steve upgrade his home computer.
@BigChungusRedditElite 3 жыл бұрын
@Brandon S Don't care, Didn't ask. Plus, nobody is saying you need to dump perfectly good hardware for new and shiny hardware.
@dalehammers4425 3 жыл бұрын
@Brandon S If thats the only argument you can make against the new 5k series, we accept your surrender.
@toaster_bloke9999 3 жыл бұрын
@Brandon S nothing, you have a perfectly capable chip. But you don't have the best either
@lukefreeman828 3 жыл бұрын
@Brandon S and when your chip was released it was also for “benchmark chasers”. Seriously, what a dumb comment 😂
@ryanskelly7687 3 жыл бұрын
Hum, and I thought your videos only got released at like 3 in the morning. =P
@omg_RANCORS 3 жыл бұрын
i love when products launch that shake things up. new product coverage is fantastic
@jessepaulsen94 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant advertising for the spill proof bar runner with the cat. I love it 😂
@kasuraga 3 жыл бұрын
Oh man, this is huge. AMD is definitely back in the game. Stock amd chips beating intels 10900k overclocked is nuts. This takes me back to the athlon xp days
@mini-_ 3 жыл бұрын
5 November, also known as "The day Core i-series turned into Core ayayay.. Intel.."
@emilxert 3 жыл бұрын
Just wait for 11 gen intel
@Mike-rt2vp 3 жыл бұрын
Which reminds me of my favorite movie, Daddy day core.
@mini-_ 3 жыл бұрын
@@emilxert there is always something better around the corner, I am talking about performance right now though.
@lavisak 3 жыл бұрын
Rocket lake will be lit af🔥🔥🚀 . . . Literally
@QactisX 3 жыл бұрын
@@lavisak lol the power consumption on 10900k in these benchmarks is close to 300 watts and amd pulling 80-120
@thegenxgamerguy6562 3 жыл бұрын
Steve, also because of your review I got myself a 5950X, and I'm SUPER happy with it. :-) Gaming and Studio One is like a breeze, I'm glad I could also see your review before I decided to get myself one.
@SlickSniper3 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for keeping it real with the content 🙏🙏
@-Kiito- 3 жыл бұрын
Sat here staring at my 4770K, I'm still pretty content with it since I don't usually play the latest games. I don't really need the upgrade but man... someone needs to hide my wallet.
@vagabondht5791 3 жыл бұрын
Upgraded to a 3700X and a X570 board this year, had a 4770k before hand myself. i did it since i can always just upgrade the cpu later :D.
@zenon351 3 жыл бұрын
still stuck with a 4790k. The upgrade is getting stronger but then again I only use my PC for word, emails, League of legends and valorant. Not really a reason for an upgrade lol.
@Bratfalken 3 жыл бұрын
@@vagabondht5791 I went from a 3770K to the x570 64GB 3600 memory and the 3700X, these new 5-series is the plan for the final upgrade in a couple of years. Waiting for an 3080 Tuf OC.... and maybe an AMD GPU might be a way to go too when this is getting old? I have a PCIe 4.0 already, but one warning, don't fill the Corsair MP600 more than 50% writespeed drops like it's choking down from 4000 Mb/sec to 1500 at 61%, and before I cleaned it up a bit, having 81% filled dropped it to 500Mb/sec. MSFS2020 takes it's toll...
@aliefr2984 3 жыл бұрын
@@Bratfalken you should have buy samsung version instead corsair, since they almost at same price
@timothygibney5656 3 жыл бұрын
I owned a 4770k ... Thinking of turning it into a FreeNAS box. Anyway for work stuff my jump to a 9900k was noticable. Sure boot times are similar but it will show its age if you are not careful. Mad dogs, rd2, Adobe premiere, or virtualization will make it beg for mercy
@gudenau 3 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to see the new THREADRIPPER and EPYC stuff!
@justmejustme3042 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the hard work and great review. One big problem though.. I can't read any of your charts due to the tiny fonts. Please can you use larger fonts to make it readable. 👍
@Raidenorius 3 жыл бұрын
Great job. Great efort :) Would you make manual timmings for Ram paired with new Zen 3 test?
@Gnomleif 3 жыл бұрын
Welp, looks like I'm getting an AMD system this fall. I was waiting for tests in case the 5000 series were terrible overclockers, as I run a few things that are _very_ clock frquency dependent, but with a stable 4.6 GHz OC Intel just doesn't have enough of an advantage for my use. So Intel, you served me well, but it's time to say good bye.
@SG-tx1fz 3 жыл бұрын
Oof
@h2oaddict28 3 жыл бұрын
@Brandon S Get what you need boyo.
@dalehammers4425 3 жыл бұрын
@Ivan MK He reminds me of one of those rich guys that owns everything 2nd hand shit to save a few pennies.
@Gnomleif 3 жыл бұрын
@Brandon S Good for you. ;)
@jerryh559 3 жыл бұрын
Going to buy 5800x, currently running a "phenom II x4 955"
@andersjjensen 3 жыл бұрын
You better have a seat belt for you gaming chair. That kind of performance jump might blow you clean out the seat if you don't :P
@dawienel1142 3 жыл бұрын
@@andersjjensen great comment, made my day.
@Beos_Valrah 3 жыл бұрын
I wish I could - still running a "Core i7-860" from 2009 :/
@andersjjensen 3 жыл бұрын
@@Beos_Valrah If you can get your mitts on a second hand B450 board and a Ryzen 1700 you have a sweet upgrade path in some years when Ryzen 5000 drops in price + it will give you a solid boost from what you already have.
@johnconnor2402 3 жыл бұрын
Holy, I had a phenom 955 black edition. That thing ran hotter than the sun but it was my first build
@pehrsonater 3 жыл бұрын
love your videos
@johnpaulbacon8320 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this well done video.
@NeThZOR 3 жыл бұрын
RIP Intel indeed... beating an overclocked 10900k by a fair margin. This gives me high hopes for a 5600x going toe-toe with 10700k. Scratch that... it even beats the 10900k in some applications. So glad I didn't upgrade this year yet.
@HoJSimpson 3 жыл бұрын
In Linus Benchmarks the 5600x beat the 10900k in almost every game.
@DragonBallzMoviesHD 3 жыл бұрын
It won't be cheap as 3600x
@stevebalmer8888 3 жыл бұрын
It's got RDR2 going on for it...
@DrHeroe 3 жыл бұрын
@@DragonBallzMoviesHD who cares?
@JuryDutySummons 3 жыл бұрын
@@DragonBallzMoviesHD I think it's the same launch price. The 3600x is being discounted right now, but that's kinda expected.
@bigdaddydzzzzzz 3 жыл бұрын
Last time I was this early I got a 3080
@Redwarszawaftw 3 жыл бұрын
absolute madlad
@Po7ent 3 жыл бұрын
Quit lying
@Mike-rt2vp 3 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry
@raddysurrname7944 3 жыл бұрын
does that mean that you aren't here? lol
@TheMack 3 жыл бұрын
Wow! That bar mat looks amazing!!
@Voidward 3 жыл бұрын
That bar mat is awesome. I've never had a need for one, but now I'm trying to figure out a reason to buy it.
@Zosu22 3 жыл бұрын
When Steve makes a claim like that in the thumbnail you know it’s good
@AgentSmith911 3 жыл бұрын
And this is on the same 7 nm process and same motherboards. Imagine what AMD will be capable at when using 5 nm or 3 nm, with new motherboards... The future looks promising! 🤘🏻
@maxrei8786 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this in depth review! Gamers Nexus could you add a time stamp for "conclusion" please? That's missing!
@jeef96440506 3 жыл бұрын
@Steve, any plans on re-doing the benchmarks on ram to see if what we know about 3xxx still applies? 4x8/2x16, 3200 CL14/3600CL16, etc.
@jakegarrett8109 3 жыл бұрын
1:31 is the most adorable marketing I’ve seen all year.
@jarail 3 жыл бұрын
Let's go! I've been waiting years for AMD to take the crown!
@Beos_Valrah 3 жыл бұрын
Same!
@FaiTCRaH 3 жыл бұрын
i've been building my pcs since i owned an amazing AMD K6-2 533 mhz... moved to a Athlon64X2 (blew my mind), then moved to an FX... bought the marvelous i5 2500k overclocked (my first overclock) that's still running smoothly as my "local server" 10 years after, and now... back to a 3700x... and this year has been amazing viewing that AMD has retaken it's place... always looking forward, always innovating.... and planning to pass my 3700x to my doughter and move to an 5xxx series... thanks for the video... amazing! subscribed!
@darkSorceror 3 жыл бұрын
I'm very impressed with that stock power-to-performance ratio!
@polla2256 3 жыл бұрын
I'm in the fortunate position of not having purchased a performance PC for over 10 years and have been waiting 3 years for 7nm to make it into desktops. Just placed my order.
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