Upscaled has to be the best series on this channel. Want more of these !!

Ryzen 9 5950X is a beast for something that no one mentions: Music Production. So, if you are a hardcore music producer, the 5950X is the perfect product for now. The difference is way more massive than video editing (which isn't the only production application). Music production is *100% CPU bound* with RAM and storage, the processor does *calculations in real time* and delivers sound to the DAC in a time interval unlike Cinebench and all of that other stuff (that isn't a real time production application, here a CPU gets absolutely destroyed by GPUs or graphics cards). The Ryzen 9 5950X is a *16 core processor* (the cores scale very well in audio for instruments and audio effects loaded in parallel) with a max clockspeed of basically *5GHz* (audio loves clockspeed too due to the singlethread perfomance). Imagine the amount of extremely CPU intensive synthesizers and effects that you can load with very low latency playback and for recording. The Ryzen 9 5950X is so good with the singlethread perfomance that it can run a *PS3 and Nintendo Switch emulator better than a high end 10th gen Intel processor in 1080p* . The 5950X has less stutters than a 10900K. *Zen 3 is the best micro architecture ever made by AMD for music production* , that is something that AMD themselves said in their zen 3 presentation.

"Content creation", what you came here for, starts at 08:15

You've really gotta dive into the M1. Pretty please?

$799 for amd is nothing. When intel ruled the roost, we would pay that and more for miniscule incremental updates as they sat in their mighty castle and threw corn for the peasants below. Never me and intel again for a while.

I still use a 5950x for software development. It's a brilliant processor for multitasking and software compilation. Superseded now but still more than adequate for my needs.

The cat, the Blenchmark, "get both", this video - just awesome! Great content 👍😄

I saw his face on the thumbnail and pressed it immediately. Love his videos!

I think saying that a 5950x is a powerful cpu is a bit like saying an oil tanker is a powerful boat. It really depends what you are doing with it.

I was going for the 5900X, thinking that I may save a bit of money and lose only a small amount of performance. Today I got an interesting call though: I do a lot of data analysis as my work and some customer of mine got a data set that they were just unable to process because it was too large for the machines (and tools) that they use. It makes sense for me to build up my home computer as well as possible it seems as it creates me opportunities to work from home (especially important now with Covid, but I do not particularly enjoy travelling on normal days either). So the solution, I switched the 5900X from my shopping cart to 5950X and I am now thinking of adding some more memory also to the machine. This one extra job already paid for the CPU by more than 10x. On data analysis it is almost always CPU dependent (only some machine learning applications work with GPUs) and it is a mix of single and multicore performance.

Putting together a PC atm for After Effects, Prem Pro and C4D. It's between the 5900x and 5950x and tbh it'll likely be decided by who's got what in stock. Think a 5900x and 3080 feels like pretty much the sweet spot for price and performance. And same here, 128GB RAM (shinier the better 😄).

I was honestly caught off guard by B L E N C H M A R K. But I agree.

16 cores still killing it for audio production. Recording, mixing, mastering with Izotope and multiple instances of Analog Labs and multiple other virtual instrument VST3 programs running parallel and simultaneously within each project, along with direct feed off Roland TD27 and Fractal Axe FX III via RME Fireface UFX+. 32GB 3200 and supremely fast write times on 870 PRO SSD. I don't see a need to update to the current Gen. It's amazing. It just consumes all of it. There's just no stopping it. No blips. Crackles. Hiccups. Nothing. Just 24/48 goodness on what seems to be unlimited tracks at this point.

New build 20 July 2021 with ryzen 9 5950x after bios after all settings the adobe after effect is very slow, ram 64 motherboard Asus strix B550-E, GPU Rtx geforce 3060 xc....What can I do?? ??

For me the number of fast cores is primary. Running Clarisse ifx (3D content creation) I get a nearly linear increase in performance as core count goes up. The GPU (at present) is significantly less critical. This is changing as GPUs become more general compute tools, but for now I dream of a top of the line threadripper.

This is a processor for virtual machines hosting 😍

Your cat looks very comfy on that chair

3D modeling softwares like zbrush really benefits from more cores. Smoother viewport, faster mesh processing, live boolean etc.

Can you perform some tests with matlab and with finite element simulation (Ls-dyna, abaqus and ansys)? Because for you testes everything for media, but a lot of students use these programs and it would be nice to know the power up from the 5600 to the 5950X...

Sorry I am pretty new to this. Why is it 32mb cache and not something like ram (8gb, 16gb etc)? Lack of space in the chip?

A quick question : is foundry nuke cpu or gpu bound ? Appreciate the help

Great video, would like to see a similar audio content creator professional to test these new CPUs...

This is so well explained. Thank you!

How is this Cpu for 3D model and CAD projects?

Have you tested 3950x vs 5950x in Resolve? I'm currently running a 3950x and 2080ti, not sure if it's worth the upgrade when they become more readily available.

Fun little tidbit i literally use my 3950x, to transcode live TV to x265, while i'm playing a game like Forza horizon 4, and when i'm not playing a game, i have it work on 3 videos at once instead of just 1. Other than a slight clock speed drop, there is very little difference in performance when playing a game while transcoding as long as only one transcode is running(each transcode generally uses less than 40% of the processor)

what i hate about this type of benchmarks that it only focus on render time, while working on the actual project is more important to me, like being able to preview, move and change smoothly would be more important to me, like i had to edit footage of 8 cameras each camera has almost 2 hours of footage and i had more than 22 sequences one of them has all the footage edited. working on my computer was a bit of a hassle and now editing more videos out of it, is the real problem slow, choppy, freezing and unstable sometimes is the real deal.

very nice video btw! and what video editing app do you use?

Straight talking and concise. Thanks. Haven't built a rig for about 5 years. The plethora of cpu and mobo are mind-blowing. I'm in two minds for going intel or amd for a daw / video editing box. We shall see.

Can you do a video on what graphic cards content creators should consider getting at differing price levels? I'm not sure if I should put more of my money toward the CPU or GPU when different applications call more for one or the other.

Can you please suggest me,best 3d modeling and rendring motherboard for ryzen 9 5950x .

i had a 3700x paired with my 6900xt, basically only playing cod in 1440p. was getting about 160-180 fps. switched to 5950x and now get over 240fps. have to set a cap limit now. people say 8 cores is plenty for gaming, but 16 makes it so much better and smoother.

My line of research involves dealing with huge symbolic matrices (a very core number dependent task) which take my old 96 core university's supercomputer weeks to compute. These high core numbers are paramount for academic research (GPUs, not so much). I just wish I could have my own 3990x threadripper rig, but the processor alone costs 70% my yearly income.

You have more ram than my school computer has storage in it's ssd.

Technically speaking power draw went down vs zen2 architecture.

So as cg rendering saving money for rtx is better option for faster render?

Just ordered a 5950x paired with a 3080ti, I aint getting a dual pc to stream for fun. But i do like doing speed arts, listening to music, streaming and adobe softwares. So hopefully this helps the adobe/stream/music and browsing textures/patterns. I'm excited!

Just bought a gaming machine with a 5950x, 64gigs ram, and nVidia 3080 graphics card. Replaced a system so ancient I hadn't run it in over 10 years. Been working/gaming on laptops. I haven't benched it yet as, of course, as soon as I got it, my wife took my last three days off and made me clean out the basement. I'm not really sure what to compare it TO, as my old desktop was an ORIGINAL hyperthreading Pentium 4.

Helpful, overlooked aspects of hardware when it comes to media creation.

Love Upscaled!

Do you feel you miss out not having cuda cores and nvenc encoder? Im not sure what is best more GB vram on amd or cuda and nvenc. (obviously i cannot afford 3090).

Great video...picking up my 5950x PC build this week after being in lockdown for over 100 days. Can't wait !!! Also got 3080 GPU and 64gb RAM so should handle anything I can throw at it.

1. This is the best summary of cpu design I've ever seen on KZfaq 2. Comparing to the 10900K is fair considering many people paid $700 for that cpu, until AMD came out with their intel killers.

The threadripper might be a better solution for creators when the new zen cores come out on same

awesome content......understood 20 percent only, but enjoyed the whole video.

I too bought the G.Skill Royal Trident Z! Soooo shiny! Fortunately, going for looks still gave me quality. 😁

I needed more than 4 cores for 4k editing, so last year I put together a really nice 9300x with Be Quiet cooler on a 570 board with HDME M.2 drives, SSD's and a good card and PSU in a big BeQuiet case! Super good unit... strongest computer I ever used.... But recently I'm doing 3D rendering because the machine is more than capable of it..... but it takes forever, and the particular software I'm using is totally CPU. I'm now working stereo 3D and it takes forever to process the data intensive frames. The piece I'm working now has been processing for 30 hours and has 202 frames of 2300 done. I seriously need to increase my processing so I can put out more work. The thing is, now that I have a capable machine, I start increasing the quality settings, and doing fancy-schmancy stuff like 3D stereo, and now I just need a 64 core Threadripper to help out. But in the meantime this would be a much cheaper thing to buy and put on my system. (I don't think I'll be getting a Threadripper this year). But the job I'm doing now might have gotten to 202 frames in 20 hours instead of 30. Thank you for looking at it from the creator's perspective!

4:40 Are you sure the L1, L2, L3 cache bandwidth speeds are correct? That seems incredibly slow.

Hi there, nice video, but there is one thing ... the "high-core bonus" is mostly important in the the tyical "VFX" and "simulation" are ... calculating a blender simulation on my smal 8 core PC takes a few days - while the big Station (with 3990X - 64 cores) takes "just" 3-4 hours ...

I think I'll have 2xEPYC Milan chips when they come out next year. Oh yeah. Or a processing node from Frontier which has 4 GPUs with an EPYC chip at the center all connected by infinity fabric. I can only dream.

the cat on your couch though! lol

Wow, Chris is just a ball of fun energy!

What RAM kit (64GB or 128 GB) would you recommend for a Ryzen 9 5950X + Aorus X570 Xtreme Rev 1.0 MB setup? I'm buying the CPU soon and I would like to know what good RAM kit to get as well to pair them up.

*Owns 128gb of ram* Uses a 30$ monitor

I bought a 5950X for Maya, awesome for multi-threaded scene playback.

Power doesn’t improve clock speeds, to improve clock speeds you needs to send power faster, and therefore can perform more calculations in less time. When I say “send...faster” I am talking about the amount of times it is iterated in a given time, not current.

"there is just not alot of benefit from redesigning the IO die on the new 7nm process" Well one major benifit would be a 3rd, or 4th CCD being able to fit on the AM4 platform, and 4 more CCDs fitting on Epyc/Threadripper

As a guy that opted out on 64GB RAM for 32GB instead, I'd love to take a look at his task manager while utilizing them 128GB RAM

Can you guys mention your 5950x temps on full load here, my 5950x goes to 90c and stays there 8 whole time while running cinebench r23, im using NZXT X73

you know when 3080ti ment to be out ? also do you know how well ryzen 7 could edit video as well as looking to edit 8k video and also do game engines and VR gaming too 5950X seem bit more prices in uk at the moment £850 to £950 for chip only thanks

It'll be interesting to see how the 5950x performs in workloads where GPU is largely irrelevant, eg audio

Hi! I love your videos they're super helpful, I watched almost all your videos of 2020 while trying to build a new computer targeted to perform perfectly at Gazebo stimulation for robotics applications in Ubuntu Linux; however, I didn't get much info relevant to my needs :) I need your help choosing the components, please! After watching your videos, I was thinking of AMD 5950x, MSI 3080 X-TRIO, ASUS VIII HERO, 64GB Royal 3600MHz, Corsair MP600 2TB, & I need recommendations for the cooler and case. HELPPPP Please!

Was hoping you do a PugetBench AE. Got the 3950x giving me a 9945points on Cinebench20. And a 1060points on PugetBench with the 2070s

And if i have to do Gaming and video editing at the same time, and i mean x2 games CPU dependent and x1 video editing at the same time, then 5950x is for me right?

"For gaming, you'd be much better of spending the money on a high end graphics card" Alrighty then! A GPU you say! Sounds incredibly rare! So, where might one acquire such an esoteric device?

"It is just so shiny"

Great video!

love the black cat eavesdropping on the mustard couch @1:17 ... was it a spy from Intel?

Nvidia comes out with the 2070 super @ $499.....a year later with the paper launch of the RTX3000 series, you can't find an RTX2070 super for less than about $700 (Nov 29, 2020). Heck, the 2060 super which the "60" has always been around a mid-range graphics card is priced at $550+ today! Those prices are just ridiculous. Not to mention..... The three biggest paper launches of 2020 are the AMD 5000 series CPU, AMD 6000 series graphics cards and the Nvidia RTX3000 series graphics cards. 1-2 months after launch, no one has them or they come to retailers in drips and drabs. And unlike the gaming market with there is a major upside to moving from the Ryzen 3000 to the Ryzen 5000 series, for content creation the difference on average between the two series is only between 5%-10%. Not sure that is worth the large upcharge for the 5000 series processor - although the difference between the 3950 and 5950 is only $50 at this point. But a 3800X to 5800X is about $125, or about a quarter of the processors total price....that is a major upcharge for not a huge amount of performance gain in the content creation space. BTW, you should have include the 3950 in your comparison. You made this an intel vs AMD comparison when it should have also been about AMD previous vs new generation CPU.

Nice explanation!!!

I have an i7 980 which I bought in 2009 and I just kept upgrading the graphics card. in 2010 to about 2014 newer chips were only incrementally better and used less power. I was concerned about running with a 10yo mobo so recently I bought the Ryzen 9 3950 and the RTX3080. Also since 2000 I was frustrated by the way hard drives were the slowest components and put up with a lot of thrashing. Now the SSDs are a godsend. Do I need all this? Probably not but I don’t want to get frustrated again by some limitation or bottleneck and glad I don’t have to run my reasoning past a boss or spouse.

I'm planning to get a 5950x and a 3080 for editing.

".. because my Radeon 7 is getting a little old." I'm using an RX 580! And that still feels new to me as the one before that was a Radeon HD6870

Yay more upscaled!

3:40 I has no sense what you said, Zen 2 has 8 full cores per CCD in a two CCX arrangement beacuse each CCX has 16 mb direct access L3 cache. This is monolith as Zen 3, the only change is that now all the cores shares the 32mb L3 cache and still is a monolithc chiplet.

R9 5950X vs R9 5900X for Zbrush and Substance Painter?

1:31 CAT

Dude ur radeon VII is still relevant these days Hold that upgrade till rdna3,im sure 16gb will to mainstream gpus and do better than 6800xt next year😎

The cat vibing at the background tho.

Hello! I video edit and animate with Adobe. Any idea if the RTX 3070 combined with Ryzen 5950X 16 core would be an overkill for working with both programs in 4K?

Plz make a video on ddr5 platform when it will be implemented and become a new standard

30k cinebench score.. Only issue is it runs a little toasty! (Up 4.5k from my 3950x) Highly recommend!!

My dude are you okay? I hope your health is well? Or a damn long gaming session :O

Him: Radeon 7 is a little old My Gtx 960 2gb: Am I a joke to you?

Did you compare the 10900K QuickSync transcode? I don't know for sure but I reckon it would be faster than the 5950X

You can never have too much speed. I would get an Ampere Altra if the price was low, I just don't have $6000 sitting around to spend on that kind of thing. Or maybe an IBM Power 9 or better, the only other drawback besides price with those is that I don't think they natively run Windows. They would be fun to try Linux on though!

Not trying to be 'that guy', but the biggest boost in my productivity pipeline is a large pile of CUDA cores. I don't use the processor for much more than a means to keep those cores well fed... Photogrammetry, rendering, image stabilization, panorama stitching are all GPU functions in this shop. Some of these tasks take 8-40 times longer on CPU! Thousands of cores on a task, in my mind, is comparable to thousands of threads...

Think the 10980xe on the Intel side or 3950x would've been a better choice for comparison cost and core-count wise

I have ryzen 9 5900x with RTX 2070super with Kraken x62 and g-skill 32GB (3200) is it good for Adobe and gaming and should I change the cooler to something new or the Kraken is good I had it for 3 years| some people said that intel is better in gaming and adobe product

i will use 5950X to run Boinc / old Seti tasks and hope it will be good for it

Your videos are the only reason I subscribed.

which cooling machine suits the 5950x?

what about audio production, how does it scale there? and how is it in comparison to the 5900x?

Ive game up on getting a 3080/80ti/90 or 6800xt/6900xt for my 5950x build i just used a strix 2080ti. I sold a strix 2080 and still have a radeon vii, reference 5700xt and nitro 5700xt se as my newer gpu’s. I was debating on selling the nitro 5700xt mainly because the radeon vii will be hard to find in a couple years and i have the reference xt in an itx build it was the smallest fastest gpu that would fit. But i think i might try to see if the vii fits in and take out the 3600 and put in a 3900x. But my two main gaming systems are 9900ks nitro 5700xt, 5950x strix 2080ti. I’ve been in every newegg shuffle and check daily looking for high tier gpu’s for sale. Im not paying scalpers double or triple the price that’s stupid and if people would stop buying them it might stop but I highly doubt it.😡🤬🤯☠️ The vii on the used market has went way up I was very tempted to sell it but I like collecting gpu’s and the vii was a unique card. Yea it got a lot of hell when it came out but it’s fun if you to tinker. With a nice undervolt the cards not bad at all and on water its a beast. And I really enjoy the silver all metal design and 16gb’s of hbm2. But for purely gaming the 5700xt was a much smarter choice. I really just want to move to 4k a bought the smallest lg cx oled to game on I normally game on a 3440x1440 120hz gsync or a 144hz 1440p freesync display. I want to try 4k and needs a hdmi 2.1 compatible gpu.

after your videos i need to rest for an hour before doing anything else :D

Now, if I could just get one...

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Hay dude, you show a very simplyfied case run. Just pin Cinebench for 30 mins and look at the average score you ll see a drop off in Intelperformance due to "throtteling " (not reaching full boost clocks anymore because the thermals are killing it while 5950X will beable to still boost. So anyone who has to compile or render scenes for plus 10 mins will be FAR better off with 5950x except for 512 instructionset render

So umm... did you drink coffee/caffeine before recording this video? 🤔